Rei's kinda-ok guide for Heavy/Robe Fox.

I am pretty sure this is a failed build, seeing as the person who made this guide has jump ship. Maybe this guide should include you need to be extra rich or cash shop alot in order to make this build successful.

Jametao - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I am pretty sure this is a failed build, seeing as the person who made this guide has jump ship. Maybe this guide should include you need to be extra rich or cash shop alot in order to make this build successful.

how convenient to create a fake character to flame threads.

Dinny - Heavens Tear wrote: »

20k Pdef isn't farfetched. I hit 15k at my level when cleric buffed on top of my own Pdef + the Foxform boost. 10k health is a hoot, though, for a venomancer. Oh well, people lie in many threads honey, not just this one. :P

yes 20k is not hard to get but 20k in TT80 gold and also 10k HP is never gonna happend ever. OP should delete those stats with equip/no equip and ppl that want in the first post just post your pwcalc link. easy!

Reikara - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It's not the ideal farming build. There's some bosses I cannot do without another venomancer's assistance, yet it's a boss an arcane veno can do easy.

aww sad to see you leave.
But ya this is an EXPENSIVE build.
You need to refine your weapon to get more attack power.
Although you don't need to refine your armor as much to get the hp.

Just another 70% of the xp bar to go to wear the TT90 gears which I've got prepared. The cape actually has an additional stat of +6 vit and +216 pdef +216 pdef.

WOOTS! 20k pdef and 8k hp with sage foxform and full buffs. Thanks a lot Rei and the other heavy / arcane venomancers (Kittenice, Obsessed and the rest) for the inspiration and advice.

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=d74197eae6ee16ff

P/s of course I have a full arcane set prepared too with the TT90 gold sleeves for the -6% channelling. Currently with 11.5k rep and going to try for rank 6 to get the rank 6 arcane robe for the channelling

For those contemplating heavy / arcane, this build is fantastic and fun BUT expensive.

kenlee wrote: »

seriously, why do you care so much about flamers?

anyway, i think this heavy build shine at 9x or even 100. its very hard to find good gear with +stats and it will be always a waste of money on gear that you have to spend a lot and sell it for nothing after you use it. better stay LA or even AA on pve servers then restat when you get your endgame gear. as heavy, you will do fine (at least i did it) soloing bosses like drum, soulbanisher, feng but whats the point... others like astralwalker you will never kill them and for the others get a cleric to heal you. so i found out that i've spent so much on gear restat and what not when i could be just one simple build till 90 or even 100 when i can finally think about heavy.

also this guild is more for mid-lvl, i want something more for endgame like lvl 100. someone here (deityofrain) said that she has like 10k hp and like 20k pdef and whatever when in fact i was looking and her gear most of the times i saw her in arch and all she wear is **** AA and even that crafted 2-3 stars. i've done lots of calculation with pwcalc and there is no way you can get that (full buffed ofc) witch result in this.. many ppl lie in this thread.

lol? calling me a liar now? seem to me like you need to do a lot more calculation. Get your facts straight before you accuse someone. I have sold most of my gears cause i'm waiting for new race.

anyway, here my build before I decided to quit playing veno
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=c37d65a5da8f0407

few things to notes:
the glorious robes,torment is 6-7 str/magic/dex/int 216pdef 216 pdef
but since I can add only three on it, I combine the three other stats into one as 19 magic. it basically the same thing, just moving stats around. I also combined the two pdef into one.

things that can make build better:
warsong belt and necklace
lunar rings

set sit at +6 except weapon, with higher refine, you will have barb hp

HP currently:
self buff: 10070
barb buff:12947
sage barb buff: 13331
pdef: 20771

this build lack in damage, but I'm an hp person, more of my style. Overall, I pefer 8x gears, easy to 4 socket, cheap to make yet still effective; thus, I don't think it is expensive cause only one or two item on there is hard to get.

feel free to comment, I'll be back later

im 91 so i have to do a bit of swapping (magic rings, channel sleves, giave to sword) when i switch from caster to fox to get the most out of heals. foxform i have 0 chan, caster is -9%, though when your running TT its kind of silly to run in fox. and with my minimal casting low channeling for veno, and magic stat a little under 300 with +3 wheel of denial of fate with one immac saph, i can run 3-1 solo with pretty much no problems. 1-3 is also no problem, and the heavy armor prevents you from getting 1 or 2 shotted from shooting aur's aoe when pulling him, solo running in fox is a terrible idea, just switch to FF for pulling to benefit from the extra phys def on the aoe's.

the sleves are the only piece of armor that i switch out, caster form sleves - sea captian, FF sleves - TT80 arcane - for the extra stats (my stat rings are magic, the sleves make up for them when i put on FF crit/phys attk rings) switching out the rest of the armor wont make a big diff, besides costing you HP from switching out of HA which has better HP bonus per refine, unless you have the rank 6 channeling robe, which might help a little on heals.

I like to keep at least 1 piece of arcane armor equipped for the magic def.

kenlee wrote: »

since nobody proved th other way... yes i called you a liar since you came with only a vague description about your build and nobody else asked more about it.
its good that you came out now and proved the other way but you also said that your build works for regular players and some items rigt there arent really that cheap... thats why my calculation didnt work with 'affordable' items

It does work for regular player, just replace the expensive items with less expensive ones. You won't have as much hp as me, but it should still be around 9k hp self buff.

@DietyofRain: maybe i missed a memo somewhere, but where do venos get a HP self-buff?

I'm currently using a Silverrain. Which is a frost lvl 85 pataka. Reason i'm using it is mainly because i think it's a little better then tt90. And it was rather cheap. At higher level, it's easier to get the needed stats to wear both best gear and weapon. Once i hit 95 i can use my neon purgatory.

Is it possible to put up some stats from ppl at lvl 30/40/50/60? trying to make a ha veno from the very start XD