Think venomancers are overpowered? Please read.

People that say "just use a purify pot" or "make up a strategy"
obviously never pvped a 80+ phoenix <.<

Its not possible to click pots (or try other ****) when you're chainstunned for 6 sec. Ure dead before u even get to click the pot. If im fully buffed i can survive like 2 BM + another 90+ ea attacking me ...but just 1 lvl 85+ nix kills me in couple sec b/c of bleed. Thats how big the difference in dmg is.

Ive tried most pots lol. And only pot that works somewhat is the 6 second invincible pot that also removes bleed (that only certain guilds have access to b/c of land).

Than u have 8 second (than bleed cooldown is over) to kill the veno once the stun is gone...but most players in light or robe dont have have high enough def + hp to tank nix + survive first bleed for 6 sec.

And its really not easy to kill a pvp build veno in 8 sec..specially when they have 15 meters movement speed (most 89+ venos are hell). Crazy def in foxform. Most veno will, when they realised u didn't die and bleed got cured, just go foxform and kite the **** out of you. Than send in nix to bleed u again. To bad you cant pop another pop, they have 30 sec cooldown and bleed only 8 b:bye

Its easier for me to kill another 90+ archer than killing a 90+ veno WITHOUT its pet lol. LA Venos have alot more hp and tanking ability b/c of foxform, being able to add spare points into vita, and speed than 90+ archers. They can tank several people and kite ...so gl killing that til u get bleed again.

Next patch with genies will give 2 anti bleedskills
1: makes u bleed immune
2: purify bleed

Next week PW-CN will get the patch with genies, so im sure we get it pretty soon. Hopefully this will make pvp a bit more balanced. Cuz its just lame atm.

It's not just the archers, mages and clerics are also easy kills for nix.

MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »

I would say that Venos have some advatages over others but are not overpowered.I would say a BM or Barb going up vs a Veno would win.

People who don't bother reading shouldn't say something so bold.

Bm and barb are the only ones who stand a chance (unless it's 89+ veno)
b:shocked

<---- thinks purge,hercs and phoenixs should be eliminated forever

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Just did a TW for the hell of it. I saw no need to use flesh ream on my phoenix. I used bash and took down every class a few times. Of course with the way you guys try to fight in this game its not like its hard to kill you in the first place....

I highly doubt any of that is true, I mean you claim molded 3x equips ftw and bms with stun are noobs and clerics that heal are noobs.
Btw didnt you say pvping is like rl murder? doesnt that mean you just commit rl murder in tw holy **** bad bad zoe...

Its somewhat ridiculous, venomancers shouldnt even be fighting in pvp, just debuff other ppl, that should be their role in it, which is really important.
They are pve characters and those pets and mounts and their skills are made to be used in pve not pvp. The thing is that this dmg from pets wasnt reduced in pvp, thats why they can kill, which they really shouldnt be able to do.

Venomancers should be able to fight and have pets attack people.
Venomancers shouldnt be able to abuse a skill bug to 1 shot robe & light armor users.

I heard it got fixed in china, it'll get here someday b:victoryb:victory

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

Except it's usually true. BM stun locks a veno and her pet. Veno is dead. Barb runs a Veno down and Veno is dead. The pet might be fast, but i've seen a Barb outrun mine to me and toast me before the pet even got off a shot. I was quite shocked LOL. I had thought I had got the jump on him but he saw me coming rofl.

~S

barbs and bms on moving speed celepills run fast but these tricks only work if the veno is caught off guard. what usually happens is that veno hits first so she kills. i think the first hit advantage is fair to all classes.

phoenix is awesome but also very vulnerable to seals. in other words, venos are still easy targets to clerics. they're just considerably stronger against barbs/bms. archers can still fight the pet and, with some luck, kill. to wizards nothing changes because once pet stuns a wizard it's over.

Miatemaro - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Or better yet how about those robe and light armors users pull there heads outa there rear ends and learn something. Ill repeat this for you. A nix using that so called skill bug vs anyone at the same lvl will not 1 shot either on its own.

As 7x my nix was able to beat a 9x robe mage with hell shield and g7 pdef shards, molded robes 4 sockets ea.
This mage was able to beat bms and barbs of her level btw and is well known in LC, I'll avoid giving names coz I respect her, if it wasnt for the bug I would stand no chance.
Of course the mage could 1 shot me, but as long as I kite I would win.

Rest of ur post is typical noob veno BS.

Btw please post a video of "how to play" please teach me how will a mage or archer somehow pwn me when my pet flies faster than them, does **** insane damage and I can stay out of their range.
Oh and dont give me the typical "just use this X item that's not easy to obtain in large ammounts" or do "X and Y strategy that is impossible to complete coz the nix is faster than any flying mount".
Post a video or a group of SS and teach us all how to play.

you know i do notice the missing alot thing with my archer

drives me up the wall when every single one of stun/slow skills misses and i get torn apart in close combat by a mob

the miss rate seems awfully convient sometimes with 98% chance to hit i dont expect to miss 4 times in a row

Ok, pm me with your adresse *****, we will have a small "talk".