Think venomancers are overpowered? Please read.

Oh i got an idea.How about yalll learn to use the proffesions like the were intended to be used. Work together an you be fine . Most of you have a little click you run with an only want certian proffs running in your clicks. It dont work that way.Crying here want change a thing. Venos working as intended or they wouldnt have made it that way.Every proff is working as they itended. Each proff has its pros an cons.In every game i played its the same ol rant hes or her proff is better then mine its not fair .Give it arest allready.Thats why the new genies are on there way to the game to help everyone out to balance things abit.God lest these guys give a dam about the game an the players they are allways doing something with the players an the updates an content come out pretty regularly. Every other game i been in they go full force for afew months then the games go to hell.
Not this one.So really there shouldnt be much crying.Like i said the thing with venos dont hafta be a prob if yall work together.

thevicker wrote: »

Oh i got an idea.How about yalll learn to use the proffesions like the were intended to be used. Work together an you be fine . Most of you have a little click you run with an only want certian proffs running in your clicks. It dont work that way.Crying here want change a thing. Venos working as intended or they wouldnt have made it that way.Every proff is working as they itended. Each proff has its pros an cons.In every game i played its the same ol rant hes or her proff is better then mine its not fair .Give it arest allready.Thats why the new genies are on there way to the game to help everyone out to balance things abit.God lest these guys give a dam about the game an the players they are allways doing something with the players an the updates an content come out pretty regularly. Every other game i been in they go full force for afew months then the games go to hell.
Not this one.So really there shouldnt be much crying.Like i said the thing with venos dont hafta be a prob if yall work together.

I think you posted in the wrong thread.

Sayurirose - Heavens Tear wrote: »

When it comes to Veno's I dont think there overpowered, I mean even with the herc or phoenix if the veno is hit for any given reason usually it results to a K.O
Veno's have very low defense, unless they have heavy armor which still sometimes becomes an issue. b:cry

You're doing something wrong. Not even wizards die as fast as you're making it sound. And if you're quick with your hotkeys you won't die that easily.

Literature - Harshlands wrote: »

Epic wall o text I_Love_Pets. You think anyone is gonna read all that? lol

But venos are only op if they spend $200+. Without that they are on par with everyone else.

just for your information i have made tactics for class specifc ways to beat the so called OP veno sur if it takes a bit it isnt easy and its the same with any class but veno's do know how to play their class and use its advantages because of this everyone thinks they are OP but venos actually if YOU decide to put a lil effort into it can kill them every time and actually work for it instead of expecting the veno to just roll over and die for you then use some skill i know ppl who can beat a veno any time with the tactics i listed if you do it correctly then you win if you dont come prepared you will die reason is veno is ment to be a solo class so its ment to be prepared for bad situations by nature but it doesnt mean they can survive anything if you put effort into findinng out your own class advantages which every1 seems to be focusing on venos and not their own class and to actually work a way around the issue they just want to gripe and not have to wrk a veno does work for what it has at least i know i do all the ppl i PK and PVP seemto know a few tricks for beating Hood and getting around it so it doesnt matter if you dont have the skill's needed then dont go into PK mode plain and simple i work for my kills in PK mode because i dont need to use Pnix often i use a Kowlin most times and that does just fine its harder but i still come out on top if i come prepared if not i die and rather fast mind you
also for those that do need to now each post is directed to each class except venos reason is if your OP as every1 says why give you stategies to beat you or your own kind reason is you will know your strengths an weaknesses and compensate for them at least thats what i try to do if you need to know which post is which read the first is for BM second Archer 3rd is cleric think 4th is barb and 5th is wizz will double check and correct this if its wrong

In my opinion (as a veno, cleric, and archer), having an all class pet that attacks defeats the purpose of having venos. I can't help it if some people just suck. So, if you don't like it either change classes or don't pvp. Plain and simple. As a cleric i own venos. As a veno everyone owns me. I built both they way they should be. I know the advantages and disadvantages of being different classes. So stop complaining and deal with it. Grow up it's just a game!

Yes I did. Trust me, I've had help and I've looked at guides. I'm not afraid to say I don't know everything and I do need help with builds. But I do know I built right.

Lessie - Lost City wrote: »

I highly doubt you built veno the way it's supposed to be, if you did then only barbs and bms would have a chance agaisnt you.

Barbs and BMs? Huh. That's kinda interesting... They're among the easiest class for me to beat. Now... A high barb with a charm... Not going there. I don't think any one person can take out those dudes.

Now... Archers and Clerics... Do not want. They pincushion me the instant they spot me.

You may be getting owned by everyone, but I'm pretty sure there is a class that you can completely violate. Maybe the problem doesn't lie in how you are, but how you fight. What skills are you using? Are you robe, LA? What pet is your PvP pet? There are a ton of different tactics based on what kind of Veno you are. You can't just build a good build. You have to know HOW to fight. You aren't going to beat anyone flinging in a pet and spamming Venomous Scarab, for instance. I love going toe to toe with uncharmed Normal Form barbs. My gear has a ton of evasion buffs, Barbs miss a lot, and I cripple them even more using Befuddling Mist. Add a nice hard hitting pet in there, while I hunker down in Fox Form, and I can win quite nicely. Of course, if they start to run, or fly away... *Laughs Evilly* Then I get to fire off a lovely assortment of spells at them. Switch to my Air pet, toss on Summer Sprint, and a speed increasing powder, not to mention I'm the proud owner of a Swiftshadow I always keep fed. b:laugh

Point is... It's all in how you play the game. Don't lose faith because "Everyone" owns you. Learn how to own back. You can do it. You already know how to fight as a cleric. That means you aren't imcompetent. Take your knowledge of your cleric, and work off of that. You've seen tactics other classes use against you. Take that knowledge, and turn it into a Veno Friendly fighting tactic. You CAN win. You just have to figure out HOW.

To all the ones who say wr and wb are ez please come LC kill our high lvl geared players of those classes.

And remember mages, archers and clerics got a lower range than the distance between you & pet, your bug or nix can go to them and pwn them thanks to this bugged skill and they dont even get a chance.
And dont give me the kill the pet BS, nix is soooo ez to kill.

^ True

It's hilarious when a veno brags about killing a mage (aka running and sending nix/bug to bleed)
It's also sad to see so many defend this bug and say "use your skills" or "make a strategy" please make a video of you somehow avoiding the 10 m/s pet that 1 shots you while the veno runs away and enlighten everyone.

Another thing, where is the fun in this? I see archers and mages do skill combos, diff builds, etc. but for my class it doesnt matter the pet will always pwn no matter if i'm vit or heavy or whatever, it's like instant-win 90% of the time how is that fun?

FoxRunning - Heavens Tear wrote: »

the vst majority of venos dont have phoenixes or hercs... so dont fight the rich ones.

I've yet to see any 7x+ veno w/o nix.
Even without nix, a bug can do some lame damage with the bugged skill.
1 week and half of hh farming gives you nix.

some of us cant afford them...we put all our money into leveling skills and good weapons/equipment, as well as training our 'normal' pets with time and help from MrsZoo when we can

Lessie - Lost City wrote: »

I've yet to see any 7x+ veno w/o nix.
Even without nix, a bug can do some lame damage with the bugged skill.
1 week and half of hh farming gives you nix.

mbrunestud wrote: »

you're not on LC, you're not 7x, are you trying to dispute a 8x on LC's claim that most 7x venos on LC have phoenixes? and that you can simply avoid fighting the phoenix by avoiding rich venos? phoenixes make a pretty big difference in pvp, chances are the scenario is much different there than on HT.

QFT....

GL avoiding a 10 m/sec speed pet that 1 shots you b:bye specially in the non-tea party servers where you cant stay in blue name all the time.
veno with nix = bye bye cleric, mage & archer if the veno stays out of range. Is it fair that they grind just like us(well actually harder coz we are also the best solo pve class) and then all their gear/skills are useless because we got a pet that 1 shots them?
No strategy, no counter, no way around it, no buts. Simply no chance

Seal has a lame colldown, they wouldnt be such a big threat if the skill wasnt bugged

You seem to forget with nix and your spell you can stun lock for a bout 6 seconds.
6 Bleed secs will pwn any robe and if you throw in a spell or 2 then bye bye light armor.

That also means I gotta spend a sweet ammount of cash or time getting powders, keep in mind a veno can kite and send nix for ages bleed's got a cooldown of 30 secs.
Not a viable solution.