New skill & new pets-upgrades discussion

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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    dupethefile wrote: »
    I think in most of cases will be in level 100. Maybe Derjan will change in level 102 or will change when you tame.

    And I have a Bad News for you Guys:
    http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/154/2f738bd4b31c8701f4113a9.jpg

    There's a Cash Shop Item to get the Harpy and Monkey King.


    Oh joy. Doesn't surprise me to be honest.

    I just hope we won't have to go through the "Herc or GTFO" and "Nix or GTFO" phase all over again b:surrender
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  • Veneir - Dreamweaver
    Veneir - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,541 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    dupethefile wrote: »
    I think in most of cases will be in level 100. Maybe Derjan will change in level 102 or will change when you tame.

    And I have a Bad News for you Guys:
    http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/154/2f738bd4b31c8701f4113a9.jpg

    There's a Cash Shop Item to get the Harpy and Monkey King.

    Well.... hope that the nw token exchange idea from forever ago hasn't been completily eliminated and it's just there like how the new-forme orbs were OTL
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  • EllyFire - Dreamweaver
    EllyFire - Dreamweaver Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I finally saved up some coins to buy myself a herc, but should I wait for after the update? Will its price go up or down, anyone got an idea?
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  • Veneir - Dreamweaver
    Veneir - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,541 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    EllyFire - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I finally saved up some coins to buy myself a herc, but should I wait for after the update? Will its price go up or down, anyone got an idea?

    I would only imagine it would go up o.o' Demand will go up so price will, standard economics, you know? Like how true forme and fox forme went up to like 7.6m after the new release but were only 300K before.
    If you can find a herc ticket in a catshop that still has the old prices then get it, aha~.
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  • DeffyNature - Archosaur
    DeffyNature - Archosaur Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    dupethefile wrote: »
    I think in most of cases will be in level 100. Maybe Derjan will change in level 102 or will change when you tame.

    And I have a Bad News for you Guys:
    http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/154/2f738bd4b31c8701f4113a9.jpg

    There's a Cash Shop Item to get the Harpy and Monkey King.

    Lol as far as I'm concerned, they can stuff their new cash shop pets up where the sun don't shine b:angry .
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  • EllyFire - Dreamweaver
    EllyFire - Dreamweaver Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Veneir - Dreamweaver wrote: »


    I would only imagine it would go up o.o' Demand will go up so price will, standard economics, you know? Like how true forme and fox forme went up to like 7.6m after the new release but were only 300K before.
    If you can find a herc ticket in a catshop that still has the old prices then get it, aha~.

    But in the event the two new pets render the herc obsolete, the price will go down drastically. It's a tough call.
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  • Veneir - Dreamweaver
    Veneir - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,541 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    EllyFire - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    But in the event the two new pets render the herc obsolete, the price will go down drastically. It's a tough call.

    Wasn't the herc always obsolete x3??
    --I mean. Sorry that was bad it's because I'm HA--
    Well the two 'NW' pets are supposed to be DDers, (physical DD and magic DD) according to the newest source, so I wouldn't worry about the herc being replaced in use all that much.
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  • EllyFire - Dreamweaver
    EllyFire - Dreamweaver Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    And also, if the rumor about all pets being able to get summoned everywhere is true (a nix in instances, etc. ) I'd rather use that one mainly. I just want to avoid paying 75M for a herc now, and seeing it go down to 50M after the update because no one wants it anymore. People tend to go for the best, and won't invest in the second best...
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  • StxChubaka - Raging Tide
    StxChubaka - Raging Tide Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    EllyFire - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    And also, if the rumor about all pets being able to get summoned everywhere is true

    Where did u heard that? Plz put link b:cryb:sad
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I cleaned up and updated the first post, I hope things are more organised now. b:pleased
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  • Norala - Dreamweaver
    Norala - Dreamweaver Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    So wait... the pet has to be 100 before it evolves?!?

    Lame.
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  • EllyFire - Dreamweaver
    EllyFire - Dreamweaver Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    StxChubaka - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Where did u heard that? Plz put link b:cryb:sad

    I found that rumor in one of the many posts in this thread.

    Also, the fact that people can not resell their cash shop pets, is something that keeps its price high. Kinda like bound armor.
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  • Ecatomb - Lothranis
    Ecatomb - Lothranis Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Ecatomb - Lothranis wrote: »
    I hope there aren't mistake. If someone is doing the quest for the new fox form, tell me if I have done an error or not. Thank you
    http://www.ecatomb.net/pwi/quest-culti.php#q28065
    Can you answer to that? Still wondering why some npc should be in fb19 -_-
  • Julian - Dreamweaver
    Julian - Dreamweaver Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Ecatomb - Lothranis wrote: »
    Can you answer to that? Still wondering why some npc should be in fb19 -_-
    Why not? It's not like newbs go in there any more.
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  • akosireann
    akosireann Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Norala - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    So wait... the pet has to be 100 before it evolves?!?

    Lame.

    I think it's in tune with the metamorphosis theme the 2 untamed classes have at 100.
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The NPCs are spawned in each of the FB19s in turn at different stages of the foxform quest after talking to the Old Swordsman.
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  • Ecatomb - Lothranis
    Ecatomb - Lothranis Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    The NPCs are spawned in each of the FB19s in turn at different stages of the foxform quest after talking to the Old Swordsman.
    Thank you, so no error in my quest page. b:thanks
  • dupethefile
    dupethefile Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I have Good News today:

    Traning Mode:

    In the Pet Windown, there will be a new button, that will open the Training Interface:
    http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9934/20130329170148.jpg

    http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8141/2f738bd4b31c8701e7204b9.jpg
    http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/198/0823dd54564e925806767f9.jpg


    So in the Training Mode the veno can change the pet attributes, "personality", learn Exclusives Skill...
    The training mode will use materials have gotten from the new daily event (Musk deer Lingzhu). Only pets level 100+ can be trained. The pets will change of appearance when you train them, the pet will evolve. The personality is a new system that you can give them characteristics. Some Exclusives SKills depends from the Personality.

    Skill bar of the phoenix after Training

    Skill Bar of the Sawfly after learnt new Skill in the Training Mode

    There are a lot of links that I source, then I edit.
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    dupethefile wrote: »
    I have Good News today:

    Traning Mode:

    In the Pet Windown, the will be a new button, that will open the Training Interface:
    http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9934/20130329170148.jpg

    http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8141/2f738bd4b31c8701e7204b9.jpg
    http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/198/0823dd54564e925806767f9.jpg


    So in the Training Mode the veno can change the pet atributtes, "personality", learn Exclusives Skill...
    The training mode will use materials have gotten from the new daily event (Musk deer Lingzhu). Only pets level 100+ can be trained. The pets will change of appearance when you train them, the pet will evolve. The personality is a new system that you can give them characteristics. Some Exclusives SKills depends from the Personality.

    Skill bar of the phoenix after Training

    Skill Bar of the Sawfly after learnt new Skill in the Training Mode

    There are a lot of links that I source, then I edit.


    That's pretty neat and intersting b:pleased
    And..is that someone flying in Cube? b:shocked or is that just the testing server?

    Anyhow, I'm really looking forward experimenting with this new training mode. b:dirty
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  • dupethefile
    dupethefile Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »

    And..is that someone flying in Cube? b:shocked or is that just the testing server?


    @Edit: This place isn't the cube, it's the new daily event.
  • dupethefile
    dupethefile Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Today, the new expansion was launched in china. Very well, here's the new informations that i found.

    First of all, the inherit coefficient is based on Venomancer's gear

    There will be 5 inherit coefficients, each coefficient corresponds to one stat. Each pet will have a maximum value for each coefficient. Look for this image:

    http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5010/08f790529822720e5b6c309.jpg

    It's a phoenix upgraded. The first red bar, it's the attack power coefficient. The phoenix has 75% a maximum value for the attack power. In the image, the phoenix is inhering only 66%, but the veno can train the attack power coefficient of phoenix to 75%. (Remember Training Mode?)
    The second bar is defense coefficient. The same defense percentage value applies to both physical and magic defenses.
    The third bar is HP. The fourth is Attack level and the Fifth is Defense level.
    The maximum values of inherit coefficients that you can reach in the the phoenix are:
    75% for attack power
    20% for defense
    20% for HP
    90% for Attack Level
    60% for Defense Level.
    When this expansion launch here your pet won't have the maximun value for each coefficient, this will be random, the coefficient will be random at the beginning. When you train the pet will can reach the maximum value for all coefficients.

    The skill bar of phoenix in image has 7 Skilks. The 3 extras skills, 1 is exclusive, the other two are personality skills. The exclusive skill of phoenix deals fire damage, triple damage in the air, and damage reduction for all damage received, lasts 15s.


    Here's the images of the the Stats and New Skills of Harpy and Monkey King:

    Harpy
    Monkey King

    The Skills of Monkey king, one grants 30% of damage bonus, and reduces in 75% the damage received by players. And the other one is a disable and a Aoe Skill.
    The Skills of Harpy, the first increase maximum life in 30% and grants 80% of damage in monsters. The other two skills are group attacks, AoE skills. According a player of PWCH the cooldown of harpy skills and the cast its very short, like 1 second. It's a pet for damage in monsters.
    The Herc exclusive skills are two, one grants aggro the other one damage reduction.

    @Edit: The personality System: There will be more of 30 diferent personalities, but only 1 can be chosen, each personality give for the pet two personality skills. When you modify the personality, the two personality skills are replaced for others.

    Links: http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=2240221&extra=page%3D2
    http://bbs.17173.com/thread-7189372-1-1.html
    http://bbs.17173.com/thread-7188871-1-1.html
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Thanks a lot for the findings!
    It sounds pretty interesting; will get to spend more time customizing pets now. I like that!

    I suppose I'll start saving coin for the harpy pet (not a monkey fan b:surrender) and maybe get the monkey later.
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  • StxChubaka - Raging Tide
    StxChubaka - Raging Tide Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Im not sure if its too early, but from what I've read so far, The two new Legendary pets will not surpass the Herc or the Nix right?? Cuz i recently got the two, and spending more coin on two others... Well, not every one is made of gold lol

    Also, is the rumor about the pets being able to be used anywhere true?
    And the other thing about new pet scrolls, or are those tje obes that come with the personality?
  • Azura - Lost City
    Azura - Lost City Posts: 2,281 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    20% of defense and hp seems very low to me. At least now they will have some defense levels, but their defense will be actually lower than what it has now and Hp will be lower too in most cases...
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  • StxChubaka - Raging Tide
    StxChubaka - Raging Tide Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Azura - Lost City wrote: »
    20% of defense and hp seems very low to me. At least now they will have some defense levels, but their defense will be actually lower than what it has now and Hp will be lower too in most cases...

    hold up... So ur saying that the stats aren't additional? They will replace qhat thwy have now?? WTF, that means my herc instead of having 4k+ HP, itll have less cuz i barley have 3k HP
  • Azura - Lost City
    Azura - Lost City Posts: 2,281 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    StxChubaka - Raging Tide wrote: »
    hold up... So ur saying that the stats aren't additional? They will replace qhat thwy have now?? WTF, that means my herc instead of having 4k+ HP, itll have less cuz i barley have 3k HP

    Um, ask someone else... I don't know. I hope they are additional or else "so much for the upgrading".

    Edit: But imo, even if they are additional, 20% add seems low to me for what I have to fight...
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  • X_volcano_y - Harshlands
    X_volcano_y - Harshlands Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Azura - Lost City wrote: »
    Um, ask someone else... I don't know. I hope they are additional or else "so much for the upgrading".

    Edit: But imo, even if they are additional, 20% add seems low to me for what I have to fight...

    Its additional, if you look into the image of the nix it has 5159 and the inherit coffecient is only 15% unless the veno got 34k b:shockedhp its impossible.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    X_volcano_y - Harshlands wrote: »
    Its additional, if you look into the image of the nix it has 5159 and the inherit coffecient is only 15% unless the veno got 34k b:shockedhp its impossible.

    It is possible to get 34k HP on a veno though. Or close to it anyway. b:avoid
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  • StxChubaka - Raging Tide
    StxChubaka - Raging Tide Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    X_volcano_y - Harshlands wrote: »
    Its additional, if you look into the image of the nix it has 5159 and the inherit coffecient is only 15% unless the veno got 34k b:shockedhp its impossible.
    You my friend, just made my day!!!!! now i can sleep in peace... Unless the harpy can replace the Nix.. sine both are pretty much DDers either way.. I know the Monkey will not replace the Herc, but will the Harpy replace the Nix in terms of higher stats?
  • X_volcano_y - Harshlands
    X_volcano_y - Harshlands Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    It is possible to get 34k HP on a veno though. Or close to it anyway. b:avoid

    well the probabilty that the ss is from such a veno is low tho.
    and wtf 34k hp unbuffed show me a pwcalc

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