What about Game Advisors ?

Crixxix - Raging Tide

Sweet! I think it's awesome that you try to keep in touch with us on these things, more than we can say about past CM's who only came on to stop mass debates, etc. I look forward very much to seeing this come to life, and wish you luck on overcoming these complications.

- Crix

KingCrash - Dreamweaver

It's enough to know you're responding and leaving updates.

Good luck.

heerohex#3018

Thanks Val.

Its good to know your on the case.

Crixxix - Raging Tide

So much positivity and support for this! f:grin

v4liance

Hey all,

Just popping in with a quick update!

Unfortunately, I still don't have a more concrete information that I can provide right now.

I really am sorry that I haven't been able to move more quickly on this, and I truly appreciate your understanding and patience in the mean time.

I'll check back in next week again. I think I'm almost ready to make a tentative step forward with my plan, and to start divulging some information to you all.

- Val

Azura - Lost City

Thanks Val, you don't know how much most of us appreciate this.

krisnda

b:victory

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Thank to let us know how it going, it's appreciated to see that.

heerohex#3018

I would say i would rather your onest and check in with us rather than u feel preasured into saying something that may not be infact possible or even true. Take your time and thanks for the updates!

Goes a long way saying the truth and being open. Get back when you can. We are all looking forward to some good info on this!

Crixxix - Raging Tide

Thanks Val! Honesty and transparency are always the way to go. I hope that we have you as our CM for many years to come! We all are looking forward to this, and have high hopes that it can begin to fix some of the issues around here. Keep up the excellent work Val!

heerohex#3018

Labells - Dreamweaver wrote: »

We seem to have a gold scammer spammer bot infestation on Dreamweaver this weekend, can a GM please grab some bug spray & make them go away b:thanks

Another thing our GA Team could deal with!

Small Update to the GA Sum Up Lists.

Current Vote Standing. 09/06/13

Pro 297 84.86%
Against 53 15.14%

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

heero200 wrote: »

Another thing our GA Team could deal with!

Small Update to the GA Sum Up Lists.

Current Vote Standing. 09/06/13

Pro 297 84.86%
Against 53 15.14%

If they work the weekend.

heerohex#3018

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

If they work the weekend.

Your implying they are going to be a PWI Paid person... which i dont think is the idea so the times will be unrestricted whats the point in haveing paid week people... the server runs all hours. That would just defeat the idea of this, would not be constructive and a waste of money for PWI.

Truley we wont know untill Val drops us in, Tho im just adding a few Quotes / Problems that the idea would be able to support.

Kitkate - Dreamweaver

heero200 wrote: »

Your implying they are going to be a PWI Paid person... which i dont think is the idea so the times will be unrestricted whats the point in haveing paid week people... the server runs all hours. That would just defeat the idea of this, would not be constructive and a waste of money for PWI.

Truley we wont know untill Val drops us in, Tho im just adding a few Quotes / Problems that the idea would be able to support.

I would assume they would be similar to how the forum mods work. We could have more than one for a server. They would just have to be frequent players with some variety in when they log on.

Desdi - Sanctuary

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

If they work the weekend.

Volunteer is the right word here and..since GAs are/would technically be normal members they have no reason not to play on weekends.

In fact, probably the GAs are most important on weekends when the staff is not present...but that would require some in-game tools to make it effective. Otherwise, they can only send in tickets and wait b:surrender

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

I maybe missed it, but I didn't saw yet Val said that GA would be volunteer players, maybe it will be, but he didn't said it yet. As we don't know yet what would be exactly their roles/responsibilities/powers. We made suggestions, maybe some will be take as maybe others won't.

Work: Activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result.

(People can work without getting paid)

So yes GA could fix the weekend spamming if they do work the weekend as GA. (paid or not)

Desdi - Sanctuary

I know what work means but I feel volunteer/volunteering is more appropriate and more fitting, much like the Mods' volunteering to assist with the forum.

heerohex#3018

Kitkate - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I would assume they would be similar to how the forum mods work. We could have more than one for a server. They would just have to be frequent players with some variety in when they log on.

Kinda what i would say was the idea of this anywaz.

As negitive as people are about this program Bella hit the nail on the head with this i would say

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

So yes GA could fix the weekend spamming if they do work the weekend as GA. (paid or not)

volunteer / volunteering would be more the right word(s) i would use as well because your going to be giving up your free time to suport the game. Just a few notes that you can still do instances and Mod WC... and i dont think your be the only GA online. It will be important to comunicated with other GAs online to check things like Spam in areas for example i use the West arch i run trough that area quight often.

This made me laugh!
Bla to be fair tho if a GA needs to port eveywhere may be a Milage Claim form should be submitted! LOL!

Crixxix - Raging Tide

heero200 wrote: »

This made me laugh!
Bla to be fair tho if a GA needs to port eveywhere may be a Milage Claim form should be submitted! LOL!

LOL! That's awesome. b:laugh

GA's definitely need to be volunteers. I think that they should have limited power, especially during the weekend. Weekend spam is horrible sometimes. b:chuckle

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

heero200 wrote: »

As negitive as people are about this program Bella hit the nail on the head with this i would say



volunteer / volunteering would be more the right word(s) i would use as well because your going to be giving up your free time to suport the game. Just a few notes that you can still do instances and Mod WC... and i dont think your be the only GA online. It will be important to comunicated with other GAs online to check things like Spam in areas for example i use the West arch i run trough that area quight often.

You make it sound like I was against the GA idea while I'm not. All I meant is that yes GA could do take care of spam if they are on the weekend (and have the power) and beside focus on the idea of what I said you all focused on one word.

It's maybe a language issue, in french we can use the word work even if the person doesn't get pay or for some other stuff (cleaining etc...), but look like for people speaking English work is only used for people getting paid, so I guess everytime someone tell a forum moderator ''Good work/job'' we should correct them saying mods doesn't work and it's not a job since they don't get pay.

Good to know, thank you for the language lesson.

ovenusarmanio

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

You make it sound like I was against the GA idea while I'm not. All I meant is that yes GA could do take care of spam if they are on the weekend (and have the power) and beside focus on the idea of what I said you all focused on one word.

It's maybe a language issue, in french we can use the word work even if the person doesn't get pay or for some other stuff (cleaining etc...), but look like for people speaking English work is only used for people getting paid, so I guess everytime someone tell a forum moderator ''Good work/job'' we should correct them saying mods doesn't work and it's not a job since they don't get pay.

Good to know, thank you for the language lesson.

Good job is actually a phrase used in English to praise someone's effort regardless of whether it was voluntary or not. And used to even praise children. So you can still say good job. Whereas work has the secondary definition of meaning...

employment, as in some form of industry, especially as a means of earning one's livelihood

which is why work on the weekends makes it sound more obligatory than it would actually be. Just FYI.

@Thread

I think the GA's ability to deal with the bot spam would heavily depend on what tools they have at their disposal. I know as a moderator, I don't have the power to ban nor mute players from the forums. If GAs also didn't have muting or banning powers, they probably wouldn't be able to do much about it. Hopefully, if the GA program is implemented, they will have the power to mute. I think banning would be too strong a power for a GA though. If not, I don't how they would be able to do anything about it even if they were to play on the weekend. I still think this would be a helpful program either way, and hope we get some good news about it.

krisnda

oVenusArmanio wrote: »

Good job is actually a phrase used in English to praise someone's effort regardless of whether it was voluntary or not. And used to even praise children. So you can still say good job. Whereas work has the secondary definition of meaning...
which is why work on the weekends makes it sound more obligatory than it would actually be. Just FYI.

@Thread

I think the GA's ability to deal with the bot spam would heavily depend on what tools they have at their disposal. I know as a moderator, I don't have the power to ban nor mute players from the forums. If GAs also didn't have muting or banning powers, they probably wouldn't be able to do much about it. Hopefully, if the GA program is implemented, they will have the power to mute. I think banning would be too strong a power for a GA though. If not, I don't how they would be able to do anything about it even if they were to play on the weekend. I still think this would be a helpful program either way, and hope we get some good news about it.

Eh, we kinda have the minute ability to "mute" people (by deleting posts).

I do hope that this does get the attention it deserves, I've been pushing this for a while

ovenusarmanio

Krisnda wrote: »

Eh, we kinda have the minute ability to "mute" people (by deleting posts).

I do hope that this does get the attention it deserves, I've been pushing this for a while

I mean as in stop them from posting period, like it would happen in-game. But I see what you mean and yeah we do have that. xD

krisnda

oVenusArmanio wrote: »

I mean as in stop them from posting period, like it would happen in-game. But I see what you mean and yeah we do have that. xD

How about teleing troublemakers to the secret room with Michael.

ovenusarmanio

Krisnda wrote: »

How about teleing troublemakers to the secret room with Michael.

Give the future GAs teleport powers! Add that to the list. Have the GAs be like GM dave and feed people to dragons! >:D Okay that was a troll suggestion, I'll be quiet now.b:chuckle

krisnda

oVenusArmanio wrote: »

Give the future GAs teleport powers! Add that to the list. Have the GAs be like GM dave and feed people to dragons! >:D Okay that was a troll suggestion, I'll be quiet now.b:chuckle

Need more ideas like this. *chuckle*

Sizzer - Raging Tide

I don't think this G.A program will be ever implemented, what is the guarantee that GAs won't miss-use there given power & position. I say NO GA only GM. b:chuckle

Kyuski - Morai

Have played games with similar program like mentioned, and it doesn't matter if they are given the power or not they still end up having unfair advantages which leads loads of people to quit game.

Sizzer - Raging Tide

If the GA's don't have any power they how comes end-up having unfair advantages which leads loads of people to quit game ? f:stareb:surprisedb:question

Kyuski - Morai

even if u call one of them an *** you have way more higher chance to get banned. as they have closer contact with gms they often know upcoming patches and changes. If you know some items will be nerfed or increased/decreased price you can play market big time. they are also able to influence GMs more to ban some1. This program always make one guild to turn into power house.
Now give them power and you will see absurd situations..people getting banned for saying one rude word in world chat because GA doesn't like that person etc

I have been playing other games with programs like that. Been in factions with those people. they ruin all the fun when you know whats coming. know what items will drop or increase price, what skill changes will have. and then you start noticing that people that hate our faction randomly disapears (cuz they got banned for random **** which not always is true). Have been super rich cuz GA found people been abusing glitch to get exp/money and told our guild and then we all did it lol. I have never seen it work out in any game and all of those players sooner or later uses their powers for their advantages.