Unofficial Guide to the Earthguard

Mooy - Heavens Tear

SandraPlease - Sanctuary wrote: »

Mooy has been known to tell untrue things about the expansion already. I wouldnt believe anything he said. The MP need might be true but since Mooy is the only one saying it is that bad and he isnt actually playing i take the words of those actually playing as more accurate.

It is probably your playing style that determines the MP cost. If you waste a lot of mana and want to do every skill you can all the time then i assume costs will get high. If you learn to play more restrictive it will probably never become a big problem. Not more than any other race.

SHE, not he.
If they want to deal more damage they need a lot more MP. Or else Mystic will be weak.
Like 5 seconds skill, channel, release, and a little cd, you won't able to deal much damage off from it. Basic wood skill deal 100% damage plus a little extra damage. Mp cost will getting higher and higher as you lvl. At about lvl 80, you will really see the mp drain.

And you said untrue, give an example things such as veno vs mystic. I remember there were bugs said sometime when resummon, the mob won't come out and attack the mystic. Also if I remember right the summon's hp won't be full after you resummon it. That's the down side of Mystic. Mp cost will be a problem at higher lvl but not now at mid lvl, since things can be kill by summon alone easily. I check Chinese forum and read the thread from the higher lvl of Mystic. Yes, with that 2x damage will be nice at low lvl. But remeber, this is 5seconds cost. Channel like this will normally use as opening skill. It will be just like a 200% base attack at higher lvl since it won't do much extra damage. 5seconds, other class can deal more damage than that within 5 seconds. Their damage output is low compare to other class. They need to rely on plant and summon's skill to help. They both cost mp from mystic.

Mystic can be so call "op" when it come to brust out damage but that will drain a lot of mp. When they try to not use as much mp, their damage output is low. Drain mp, but effective. The more you give, the more you gain. Lvl 79 skills and sage/ demon haven't release yet. We will see will the skills help them restore mp.

Silest - Sanctuary

All I see is you trying to discourage people from using mystic..

While it's actually ENCOURAGING me to use one..

It cannot be any worse than Psychic, or a high channel wizard/veno. I can burn through my MP in a matter of seconds. It's not that big of a deal.

Mooy - Heavens Tear

Not discourage. I said, they deal more damage than other class, but use up more mp, like psy. Btw not only mp, mystic rely on chi a lot of time too, like the 5 seconds skill. The basic wood skill deal 723 extra damage? It equal to no damage. Normal PvE grinding is not a problem, but in FB, FF, etc, mp cost is a problem. Um, any of the chinese version player reach lvl 70 or 80 yet? Last time I heard its only around lvl 50.

Well um, mp cost won't affect the people with millions of zen and keep buying mp charm.

Ayainity - Heavens Tear

Mp cost for mystic's skills after lvl 80 is going to be lil problem. Thanks for the info time to stock up on lvl 75 food as well I guess XD.

obliviondemon

i seen a mobe that looks like a herc holding a weapon

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1327/20110118065658.jpg

and i was thinking can a veno harc get a weapon like that too b:dirty

Satalia - Heavens Tear

It's a mini boss......


>.<

Ayainity - Heavens Tear

Girl>_> They should give herc fist lol.. I hope we don't have to fight that boss..

Laranda - Heavens Tear

Silest - Sanctuary wrote: »

or a high channel wizard/veno

Truthfully, I want to see what a high channel mystic can do. The problem with that "5 sec spell" is the channeling, but we have gear to reduce that...

Derressh - Dreamweaver

Laranda - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Truthfully, I want to see what a high channel mystic can do. The problem with that "5 sec spell" is the channeling, but we have gear to reduce that...

Honestly, I've been thinking the same thing. It would certainly be interesting, but I'm hoping it doesn't suffer from the psychic syndrome where only 1 or 2 attacks have longer channeling times, and the rest are pretty fast and get almost no benefit from -chan.

However, this buff looks pretty interesting in conjunction with -chan gear:

Mooy - Heavens Tear wrote: »

迅法术: lvl 49, active blessing, increase channel speed for a short time, also increase caster's damage.

How short of a time are we talking here, mooy? And is it spammable? b:thanks

ElderSig - Dreamweaver

obliviondemon wrote: »

i seen a mobe that looks like a herc holding a weapon

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1327/20110118065658.jpg

and i was thinking can a veno harc get a weapon like that too b:dirty

God hercs are ugly up close b:shocked

Derressh - Dreamweaver

ElderSig - Dreamweaver wrote: »

God hercs are ugly up close b:shocked

It's from having it's face bashed in by so many easy overworld mobs while the veno sits there not attacking. b:shocked

Laranda - Heavens Tear

Derressh - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I'm hoping it doesn't suffer from the psychic syndrome where only 1 or 2 attacks have longer channeling times, and the rest are pretty fast and get almost no benefit from -chan.

I think this is a pretty valid concern. I know the pet heal is fast, not fully sure about the rest. o.O

ElderSig - Dreamweaver wrote: »

God hercs are ugly up close b:shocked

Venos are known to come up with some bad nicknames for herc's looks. The bad part, they were pretty much accurate. o.o;;

Mooy - Heavens Tear

Derressh - Dreamweaver wrote: »

How short of a time are we talking here, mooy? And is it spammable? b:thanks

8seconds, cd 35 seconds. Reduce channel by 20%.

Ok, I will make things more clear in this post. Should explain pretty much everything about Mystic. If you think that is "untrue" you can just ignore it. The info was taken from offical website and chinese forum with the comment of chinese players, not my comment.

Out of all mag classes, Mystic's attack skill deal the less damage. But some how they can become very power with the help of summon, and that's where most mp use on. At max lvl, summon's mp (incude plant summon) can cost from 1k to 2k each time. Plant summon can last from 30 seconds to 60 seconds. They are not important at low lvl. But when getting higher lvl as you begin to do TT, FF, Nirvana etc. You will find that plant become an important part of the run. The plant that used the most is healing plant. It need 1487.5 mp at lvl 10, 30seconds cd and the plant last 30seconds, cost one spark. It heal every 3 seconds, heal 150 hp at the first second. Amount of hp will rise by 50 every second. So the next time it will heal 300, then 450, then 600 and so on. Summon help Mystic to deal fair amount of damage while Mystic is healing team members. If Mystic want to deal high damage they need to have enough spark for plant destory, which can deal high amount of damage, and other control skills. A note here, Wanmei fixed the only AoE attack skill Mystic get few days ago. Before it was fix, it had 80% to seal and paralyze all enemies within 6m (or 8?). After it got fix. It has chance to seal or paralyze or both, which mean, it lower the chance to paralyze by 1/3

Now about support. In compare about healing, Cleric can heal more than Mystic, but longer cast. Mystic healing is 0.5 second channel and 0.5 second release and one second cd. Compare to Cleric Wellspring Surge, which is 1.5 second channel and 1 second release, Mystic can heal more than Cleric if they spam skills like this, but like I said, more mp use. Most of you will wonder about Ironheart compare to Mystic. Mystic got a blessing that place on a friendly target that last 1 minute. Each time when the target being attack, it will heal the target for nine seconds. This buff is fast channel and fast cd, but only last one minute. Their resurrect skill must be use before death because if the member died already, Mystic can't help. The resurrect last 15 minutes, I heard that they are going to extend it to 30minute not sure.

Summon. Summon is a great part of Mystic. 4 summons. The first summon use single target phy skill. In both PvE or PvP, people use this summon most of the time, because this summon can stun target for 5seconds. Second summon is metal damage skill. It got one skill that deal 600% damage spammable, and 400% damage metal AoE. Third summon don't fight. It can only help friendly target to absorb damage and increase defense. Highest mp cost, but able to absorb good amount of damage. Last summon has AoE fire skills. Deal massive damage but it only last for 20seconds, cost 2 spark. Plant. Plant won't be use too much in grinding. They last from 30seconds to 1 minute depend on what type of plant. They are not summon next to the caster, but next to target. Plant only use in PvP for destory AoE or boss for healing. They drain Mystic most mp aside from their heal.

Other skill such as reduce channel would be useful. It got short cd. 35 seconds cd. Other one is their water, wood, phy defense buff, last 30minutes. And btw, the five seconds cast skill on deal 200% in PvE, 125% damage in PvP. Also this skill is unable to crit.

So overall Mystic do use a lot of mp, but they are fast skill caster with support, summon, and plant. They are pretty much like psy, but less offense more defense.

Ayainity - Heavens Tear

@Mooy - Heavens Tear


Thank you so much mooy. I like what you have done to get all this info to us on mystic. I have no problem playing support on my mystic but I main heal on mystic. I can understand mystic a lot better now though for later on.

Laranda - Heavens Tear

We got some official info now, and vids.

Some current skills names: the "5 sec skill" is Soul Absorb, the aoe heal is Cloud and Mist, and finally, the tank summon is Valiant Avatar Emerges. Naturally, these names may change in the final release.

Mooy - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Also this skill is unable to crit.

You know, it occurs to me the reason this skill is unable to crit is because the player causes it to crit with another skill. Don't crits do 2x damage, after all?

Mooy - Heavens Tear

lol... It funny that they release some skills info while I got the skills here a few days ago. Can someone who play CN version take screenshot of all skill info, I can do the translation part. Or I will just translate this http://bbs.178.com/thread-1540918-1-1.html which is the skill formula for both Mystic and Seeker.b:sleep

obliviondemon

also no one talked about the debuffs that the plants do

the plants can make the mobe be full of strong debuffs (seal/sleep/mag-psydef etc..) and i think every plant gives 4 types of debuffs i dont know

those plants will be sooo useful when fighting a boss also the more you upgrade the plant skill the more stronger the debuffs will be

i will try to screen shot a debuffed mobe and show you

i think the mystic will be the strongest debuffer in the game

Derressh - Dreamweaver

I like how in the seeker preview, they showed one of their 59 skills, but mystics only get shown up to what, 29 or 39? Not sure when we get the AoE heal.

I was excited to possibly see their ulti/4th summon. ;-;

Evga - Sanctuary

mooy, do you have any information about mystic two spark attack skill? like how much damage does it do at lvl 10? like % modifier and add damage

Silest - Sanctuary

Derressh - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I like how in the seeker preview, they showed one of their 59 skills, but mystics only get shown up to what, 29 or 39? Not sure when we get the AoE heal.

I was excited to possibly see their ulti/4th summon. ;-;

eh this is the only topic where any real info on mystic is posted. For some reason, it's all about seeker according to PWE >>.

Laranda - Heavens Tear

Silest - Sanctuary wrote: »

eh this is the only topic where any real info on mystic is posted. For some reason, it's all about seeker according to PWE >>.

I noticed that too. It's getting a bit annoying tbh. First they do a seeker preview and never do one for Mystic, now this.

SomebodyTwo - Lost City

obliviondemon wrote: »

also no one talked about the debuffs that the plants do

the plants can make the mobe be full of strong debuffs (seal/sleep/mag-psydef etc..) and i think every plant gives 4 types of debuffs i dont know

those plants will be sooo useful when fighting a boss also the more you upgrade the plant skill the more stronger the debuffs will be

i will try to screen shot a debuffed mobe and show you

i think the mystic will be the strongest debuffer in the game

Here is a video of the trap summons. (Starting at 2:20)

obliviondemon

i want to know what is the five things i have to gather for the fly here is a screen shot for the quest

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8514/111111e.png

xcliqz

There is no lvl 79 skill for seeker/mystic yet?

Why don't someone who play cn go to 1k skill forges and see if it's there?

SomebodyTwo - Lost City

obliviondemon wrote: »

i want to know what is the five things i have to gather for the fly here is a screen shot for the quest

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8514/111111e.png

Rhino horns.

I have some for sale if you need them.

xcliqz wrote: »

There is no lvl 79 skill for seeker/mystic yet?

Why don't someone who play cn go to 1k skill forges and see if it's there?

Because they don't exist in-game yet.

obliviondemon

great , but you are not online from 2 days b:cry

SomebodyTwo - Lost City

obliviondemon wrote: »

great , but you are not online from 2 days b:cry

Heh I'm online right now but I think you accidentally blacklisted me lol.

obliviondemon

:0 oops how can i fix that xD

Mooy - Heavens Tear

Derressh - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I like how in the seeker preview, they showed one of their 59 skills, but mystics only get shown up to what, 29 or 39? Not sure when we get the AoE heal.

I was excited to possibly see their ulti/4th summon. ;-;

You get AoE heal at lvl 39, then upgrade at following lvl: 43, 47, 51, 55, 59, 63, 67, 71, 75

Silest - Sanctuary wrote: »

eh this is the only topic where any real info on mystic is posted. For some reason, it's all about seeker according to PWE >>.

No one complain much about Seeker in CN forum. I can translate the skill formula at weekend, got 2 project due tomorrow and friday.

SomebodyTwo - Lost City

obliviondemon wrote: »

:0 oops how can i fix that xD

Press "F" then click the arrow pointing right at the bottom of the window. That's the blacklist window, if my name (Somebody2) is on it then that would explain why I haven't been able to talk to you LOL.

Then just click my name and then the delete button. I'm not sure which one is the delete button but I know its one of them lol. The important thing is to get my name off the list lol.

EDIT: There are 5 buttons in 2 rows. with my name selected click the button on the right in the top row.