Wizards VS Psychics
JaneGray - Lost City
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Us Wizzies have to stick together!
So apparently psychics are the only new class we have to worry about. A lot of people are saying that they are gonna be the new highest DD class because of buffs, eeeek! I hope this isn't true, otherwise, what's the point?
Anyways this thread is going to be all about Wizards VS Psychics, so post any valuable information on how we can **** Psychics. This pertains to psychic weaknesses, or new strategies to combat against them, etc.
So apparently psychics are the only new class we have to worry about. A lot of people are saying that they are gonna be the new highest DD class because of buffs, eeeek! I hope this isn't true, otherwise, what's the point?
Anyways this thread is going to be all about Wizards VS Psychics, so post any valuable information on how we can **** Psychics. This pertains to psychic weaknesses, or new strategies to combat against them, etc.
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I agree we have to avoind getting wiped out.
I got an idea btw when u get to lvl 89+ get chi to max use essential sutra, force of will, and dragon strike/blade tempest/mountain sieze to finish the target.
I guess that with this combo u cant loose becuase if u start with essential sutra u will channel instantly, then silence for some seconds and finaly wipe out the enemy using one of the 3 wiz ultra hig power spells (and u will cast them fast because of sutra.b:victory0 -
i dont know about them having more dmg then us mighjt be true might not but im sure of that its gonna be easy to beat them on pvp if u dont let them use a single skill sleep > cast a skill > force of will > cast MS (they sould be dead by now since their attk lvl buff lows their deff lvl buff which also means resis ) and if not dead u got 6 seconds to finish them off. or better yet use BT after force of will im posstive they wont live after that.
btw i saw somewhere that their dmg reflect skill thingi w/e is only pve not pvp0 -
XxArchmagexX - Dreamweaver wrote: »I agree we have to avoind getting wiped out.
I got an idea btw when u get to lvl 89+ get chi to max use essential sutra, force of will, and dragon strike/blade tempest/mountain sieze to finish the target.
I guess that with this combo u cant loose becuase if u start with essential sutra u will channel instantly, then silence for some seconds and finaly wipe out the enemy using one of the 3 wiz ultra hig power spells (and u will cast them fast because of sutra.b:victory
Yeah but with soul of Regression we will just end up absorbing it. and return it back at you as Physical damage. That's if the Physic goes first as they have faster casting time than wizzies they can silence you with Soul of Regression as well as absorb some damage and turn it back on you as physical damage (as stated before). BUT once a wizard uses Sutra then the Psychic has to hurry and use a debuff spell fast then. and again Psychic have a bit lower resistance to wood damage. Meaning that Veno's wood magic could probably kill us faster than wiz magic (as seeing they both share two of the same elements: water and earth) and another note Psychics and wizards are probably the top two classes on range when it comes to skillls0 -
Raminas - Raging Tide wrote: »Yeah but with soul of Regression we will just end up absorbing it. and return it back at you as Physical damage. That's if the Physic goes first as they have faster casting time than wizzies they can silence you with Soul of Regression as well as absorb some damage and turn it back on you as physical damage (as stated before). BUT once a wizard uses Sutra then the Psychic has to hurry and use a debuff spell fast then. and again Psychic have a bit lower resistance to wood damage. Meaning that Veno's wood magic could probably kill us faster than wiz magic (as seeing they both share two of the same elements: water and earth) and another note Psychics and wizards are probably the top two classes on range when it comes to skillls
undine > ur resis wont be much of protection when its reduced by 60%
also our sleep skill is instant. as soon as 3 . 2 . 1 is over ur a sleep u wont get a chance to cast the debuff and im sure we can 1 shoot u like we can 1 shoot clerics. only problem is i dont think psyc can heal as well as cleric does0 -
ya...doesn't their attack buff decrease their defense or something?
b:chuckle
undine sutra combo (just incase their buff activates...don't wana 1 hit yourself right?)
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SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »undine > ur resis wont be much of protection when its reduced by 60%
also our sleep skill is instant. as soon as 3 . 2 . 1 is over ur a sleep u wont get a chance to cast the debuff and im sure we can 1 shoot u like we can 1 shoot clerics. only problem is i dont think psyc can heal as well as cleric does
Healing Bubble is just as equal to the Wizzies heal
Now Now don't get me wrong now I LOVE Wizards they make the ga,e more enjoyable when they are around. They also have excelent skills and should never be considered underpowered0 -
Raminas - Raging Tide wrote: »Healing Bubble is just as equal to the Wizzies heal
Now Now don't get me wrong now I LOVE Wizards they make the ga,e more enjoyable when they are around. They also have excelent skills and should never be considered underpowered
i think psyc will be way better healer then wiz they got a skill that similer to IH but when its comes to dmg wiz will stay on top chack out the post named ''Daaaaaamnnnnnn'' or osmething like that. thats what wiz is capable of0 -
UGH I'm worried. I have all these lowbie psychs in my guild now saying they have level 70 wizzies and that their psych does insane damage. Omg.[SIGPIC]http://i49.tinypic.com/30li6g5.jpg[/SIGPIC]
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theres your problem...they're only level 70.
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Raminas - Raging Tide wrote: »Yeah but with soul of Regression we will just end up absorbing it. and return it back at you as Physical damage.
Fail Tide Born... HT already has lv 50s.
Also lol. Mages aren't PvE mobs b:angry damage reflect... lol die.
off topic: *jealous* psychics start with two skills that cast stupid fast & hit harder than lv 1 pyro b:sad0 -
Dont worry lots of ppl seem to think thay do great damage form 1-10 then at 20-30 magic players suck 40-50 they dont suck but they suffer a lot 60 they are decent classes but nothing special 70+ they start to see how hard thy hit 80+ wiz pwn 90+ wiz is OP 100+ just figure it out.0
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SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »i think psyc will be way better healer then wiz they got a skill that similer to IH but when its comes to dmg wiz will stay on top chack out the post named ''Daaaaaamnnnnnn'' or osmething like that. thats what wiz is capable of
what if you just stuff in 5 psychics in a group and have the wizard self suicide? b:shockedJaneGray - Lost City wrote: »UGH I'm worried. I have all these lowbie psychs in my guild now saying they have level 70 wizzies and that their psych does insane damage. Omg.
ugh...only level 70....no wonder they think they're weak....darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
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frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
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JaneGray - Lost City wrote: »UGH I'm worried. I have all these lowbie psychs in my guild now saying they have level 70 wizzies and that their psych does insane damage. Omg.
That's part of the problem right there. Wizards get better and better as they level, but they don't TRULY shine until 90+.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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JaneGray - Lost City wrote: »UGH I'm worried. I have all these lowbie psychs in my guild now saying they have level 70 wizzies and that their psych does insane damage. Omg.
jane chill their prolly a fail wiz that couldnt make it so they re roll a psyc and loved the fact they can spam 2 low cd skills over and over but once they gonna get high and the mobs hp will raise they will notice they dont do as much dmg as a wiz do
and im saying it one more time psyc isnt a huge dd like wiz he is a semi healer buffer dd-er lol0 -
lvl 50? awreddy?? >.<
back to op...
LA might have to work harder to get squad spots, but i don't think it will be weird to see wiz & psy groups tearing around (if psy is support class, is it wrong to think wizs can also benefit from the support?)
also, if there are some almost-high level wizzes trading in for TB, they'll need to make some coin, and a good way to do that is by selling off their gear at a reduced price - something i don't mind at all0 -
SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »jane chill their prolly a fail wiz that couldnt make it so they re roll a psyc and loved the fact they can spam 2 low cd skills over and over but once they gonna get high and the mobs hp will raise they will notice they dont do as much dmg as a wiz do
and im saying it one more time psyc isnt a huge dd like wiz he is a semi healer buffer dd-er lol
fewf okay thank you
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Cholla - Harshlands wrote: »Personally, I imagine I would give a psychic a hard time unless they had 10-20 levels on me (and, maybe even then), or if I am also significantly outnumbered.
Specifically, I think I can deal with their damage reflection, and with their abilities to change their attack and defense levels, I think I can survive being sealed.
But I expect I will be surprised a few dozen times before I really learn how to deal with them.
ye ppl forget that maybe they can reflect dmg but its not like u hit them and boom ur dead they gonna reflect just lil dmg not faw Ks back at you and with their deff lvl reduced its gonna be easy to kill em undine > seal > 3 shots dead and the only hp u gonna lose is the lil dmg that reflected back at ya :P (i could be wrong but atm thats how i see it)0 -
Hmmm, I think that Psychics are a Less-Squishy, less powerful wizard.
Anyway, I'm sticking with Wizard, I will never change my class. Ever.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] b:victory0 -
ye they are less squishy with buff that give them 37 deff lvl they will be nice tanks. tho with that buff they lose 59 attk lvl so their dmg will be b:chuckleb:chuckleb:chuckleGalox - Heavens Tear wrote: »Hmmm, I think that Psychics are a Less-Squishy, less powerful wizard.
Anyway, I'm sticking with Wizard, I will never change my class. Ever.0 -
eh high lvl mages will still be op and at low lvl ever mag class out damages us anyway0
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For a long time we will have experience (in-game skills) and gear advantage. Plenty of time to work out nice tactics b:victoryPacks World International0
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honestly i think u guys need to worry about the assasins more pvp wise0
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Psy either has:
Increased attack lvl, meaning they have negative def lvl, meaning you can kill them even faster.
Increased defence lvl, meaning they have negative attack lvl, meaning they will never be able to kill you
Also, they attack with earth and water element. In PVP, a wiz with earth shield already minimalises the dmg dealt from the earth part of a psy9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris0 -
Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »Psy either has:
Increased attack lvl, meaning they have negative def lvl, meaning you can kill them even faster.
Increased defence lvl, meaning they have negative attack lvl, meaning they will never be able to kill you
Also, they attack with earth and water element. In PVP, a wiz with earth shield already minimalises the dmg dealt from the earth part of a psy
and will also reduce the reflected damage.
b:chuckle
we will still deal more damage then they can to us.
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This new psy skill called disturbed soul kinda made going demon for a mage pointless right?, i mean even the control spells are better for the psy.. b:shocked0
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ZSage - Heavens Tear wrote: »This new psy skill called disturbed soul kinda made going demon for a mage pointless right?, i mean even the control spells are better for the psy.. b:shocked
Glad I went Sage.
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Psychic is basically the magic version of BMs.
It can DD, Buff, and Debuff, but none of it as well as other classes.
I plan on raising mine to at least 60 though. I hit 23 today before I quit, so it won't be too terribly far off.0 -
To be honest about the dmg at lower levels, its great yea, but once i hit 20 it wasnt as great as wizard.
The buffs don't make you so terribly OP for psychic either, everyone makes it seem as though the atk/def buffs for psychic are the make or break in pvp for them, when in fact it isn't a large % that they get.
I still think end game wizard > end game psychic, but I can always be proven wrong (which I doubt) b:laugh0
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