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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    i think the PVP sets should be attainable even for a new commer, i dont think it's a good idea of having a huge glory fest over them.
    thats why decreasing the PVP t1,grim and profound set, to make space for drow, would be more efficient.

    it would be best to halv pvp set prices, and set the new drow at the current profound price.
    that would allow people to gear for pvp quite fast ( i mean newbie would afford the profound quite soon)
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    rayrdan wrote: »
    it would be best to halv pvp set prices, and set the new drow at the current profound price.
    that would allow people to gear for pvp quite fast ( i mean newbie would afford the profound quite soon)

    Im not sure how I feel about that TBH. 4 tiers is almost too many tiers of PVP gear.

    When a person hits 60, looking at the PVP gear. I dont know if I would even waste time with the T1 set, since the T2 set is almost as easily attainable. Then if the Profound was easier to get and the Drow was just as easy as Profound today, they would skip straight to Drow sets.



    As mentioned before, I would like SOME ties to the OW Domination. Even if OW Dom just offers a new "seal" available per day, that would be fine.


    The current Profound gear costs 27 Seals and 80k glory, so currently you can attain this set in about 2 weeks of hardcore PVP playtime.

    If you bump this to 3x Seals per day, the Profound set becomes attainable in about 9-10 days.


    I think 75 Seals could be fair if you allow 3 seals per day. The current Profound gear costs about 80k glory. So maybe the Drow set can be increased slightly to 100k glory total.

    I wouldnt even mind them adding in say, GG coins+ Skrimshaw as well, even if its not alot. It just ties all the PVP together.


    This would be my suggestion (assuming 3x seals per day with a new daily for OW Domination PVP)

    Drow Chest:
    30k Glory
    22 Seals of Triumph
    15 Skrimshaw
    24 GG coins

    Drow Helm/Bracers:
    24k Glory
    18 Seals
    12 Skrim
    20 GG coins

    Drow Greaves:
    22k Glory
    17 Seals
    11 Skrim
    18 GG coins


    TOTAL: 100k Glory. 75 Seals. 50 Skrim. 86 GG coins.
    ~25 days play time.


    I think this more than fair, gives incentive to play all three types of PVP. The only liability is the OW Dom and skrim currency as pointed out above, its exploitable, however I think its not enough to cause any real problems since its such a low amount required, but just enough to give incentive to play that type of PVP. Along with the daily, this would provide enough incentive to play the OW dom and participate (which is why I put the Skrim in there) 50 tokens it pretty easy to attain as you have a chance each kill to get one. Kill 10 players during OW Dom and youll have enough within a week of doing this.

    Thoughts?
  • dante126pldante126pl Banned Users Posts: 257 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    ayroux wrote: »
    Im not sure how I feel about that TBH. 4 tiers is almost too many tiers of PVP gear.

    When a person hits 60, looking at the PVP gear. I dont know if I would even waste time with the T1 set, since the T2 set is almost as easily attainable. Then if the Profound was easier to get and the Drow was just as easy as Profound today, they would skip straight to Drow sets.



    As mentioned before, I would like SOME ties to the OW Domination. Even if OW Dom just offers a new "seal" available per day, that would be fine.


    The current Profound gear costs 27 Seals and 80k glory, so currently you can attain this set in about 2 weeks of hardcore PVP playtime.

    If you bump this to 3x Seals per day, the Profound set becomes attainable in about 9-10 days.


    I think 75 Seals could be fair if you allow 3 seals per day. The current Profound gear costs about 80k glory. So maybe the Drow set can be increased slightly to 100k glory total.

    I wouldnt even mind them adding in say, GG coins+ Skrimshaw as well, even if its not alot. It just ties all the PVP together.


    This would be my suggestion (assuming 3x seals per day with a new daily for OW Domination PVP)

    Drow Chest:
    30k Glory
    22 Seals of Triumph
    15 Skrimshaw
    24 GG coins

    Drow Helm/Bracers:
    24k Glory
    18 Seals
    12 Skrim
    20 GG coins

    Drow Greaves:
    22k Glory
    17 Seals
    11 Skrim
    18 GG coins


    TOTAL: 100k Glory. 75 Seals. 50 Skrim. 86 GG coins.
    ~25 days play time
    .


    I think this more than fair, gives incentive to play all three types of PVP. The only liability is the OW Dom and skrim currency as pointed out above, its exploitable, however I think its not enough to cause any real problems since its such a low amount required, but just enough to give incentive to play that type of PVP. Along with the daily, this would provide enough incentive to play the OW dom and participate (which is why I put the Skrim in there) 50 tokens it pretty easy to attain as you have a chance each kill to get one. Kill 10 players during OW Dom and youll have enough within a week of doing this.

    Thoughts?

    sorry dud we didnt got an pvp content/gear since few months im not going to farm another month for the set when it comes out.
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    dante126pl wrote: »
    sorry dud we didnt got an pvp content/gear since few months im not going to farm another month for the set when it comes out.

    Most players are glory capped at 50k already, have plenty GG coins as well as (if your smart) have continued doing the Seals.

    I know on two of my characters I have over 100 GG coins, 50 Skrimshaw, 50k glory and like 30-40 seals.

    This would put farm time down for seasoned players to like 10 days to farm this.

    If its a new BIS gear, you cant expect it to just be handed out... This gear is better than blackice gear which takes around 30 days of the mod 3 campaign to farm.

    Why would someone farm BI gear in 30 days if they could get the Drow set in 2 weeks.... Think about that. If you dont wanna farm it, you dont have to.
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    I would really like to them have GG coins as a requirement to encourage play of all types of PVP
  • loboguildloboguild Member Posts: 2,371 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I would really like to them have GG coins as a requirement to encourage play of all types of PVP

    Yup. Some sort of combination of glory, Triumph, Grym and a new curreny that drops from OW Domination or OW Domination daily.
  • thirdquestionthirdquestion Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 96
    edited January 2015
    Drow set's right.......but what about diminishing?
  • effectensteineffectenstein Member Posts: 1,031 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    i like the idea of gettin the pvp gear.
    but i belive its a bad idea for farming it alot.
    1st i want a new commer to get the set asap
    2nd he already has problems doing dailies / boons.
    3rd if people are all aprox. the same geared it's easy to probably balance the classes.
    Drow set's right.......but what about diminishing?

    what do you mean?
  • ralexinorralexinor Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 576 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    This has been mentioned before but imo you should be trading in old pieces for the higher tier pieces. This way people aren't forced to skip tiers trying to get the higher tier gear. For example (will just use one piece per set for this):

    T1 PvP boots: 3,150 glory
    T2 PvP boots: T1 PvP boots + 1 seal + 3000 glory
    T2.5 PvP Boots: T2 PvP boots + 3 seals + 12000 glory
    T3 PvP Boots: T3 PvP boots + 5 seals + 18000 glory
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    ralexinor wrote: »
    This has been mentioned before but imo you should be trading in old pieces for the higher tier pieces. This way people aren't forced to skip tiers trying to get the higher tier gear. For example (will just use one piece per set for this):

    T1 PvP boots: 3,150 glory
    T2 PvP boots: T1 PvP boots + 1 seal + 3000 glory
    T2.5 PvP Boots: T2 PvP boots + 3 seals + 12000 glory
    T3 PvP Boots: T3 PvP boots + 5 seals + 18000 glory

    I like this but doubt they would do this because of transmutes. This IMO would be the best as long as you could trade say boots from any of the t2.5 sets( IE - tactician/conqueror/preserver) for any of the new t3 boots.

    Some people farmed one set and may want a different. You know what i mean.
  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Nope to GG coins cause not every player has a guild and can go to GG.

    Glory and seals of triumph and anything else that is not restricted to guilds. GG is for guilds only, so you would basically cut-off the new set for all those who do not play GG/are not in a guild.
    If they change it and make GG available for non-guilded toons, then ok.
    Considering it would be bis, then limiting it to guilds is a big no.
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    pando83 wrote: »
    Nope to GG coins cause not every player has a guild and can go to GG.

    Glory and seals of triumph and anything else that is not restricted to guilds. GG is for guilds only, so you would basically cut-off the new set for all those who do not play GG/are not in a guild.
    If they change it and make GG available for non-guilded toons, then ok.
    Considering it would be bis, then limiting it to guilds is a big no.
    it's not like you have to pay a rent to stay in a guild and it's not like you are forced to play with them GG if you dont want to.
  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    It's not like you should be forced to join a guild to access new content. GG has it's own GG-related rewards.
    Normal pvp gear should not be limite to guild-only content.
    If you join a guild you have access to guild pvp (GG).
    Not like 'if you want new pvp sets join a guild'.
    If you want new GG sets ask for them. PvP gear is, and i hope will always be open to all players, even the ones who just like to be lone wolves and should not get penalized for that.
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    Any relevant player has a guild or can easily get one
  • thirdquestionthirdquestion Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 96
    edited January 2015
    i like the idea of gettin the pvp gear.
    but i belive its a bad idea for farming it alot.
    1st i want a new commer to get the set asap
    2nd he already has problems doing dailies / boons.
    3rd if people are all aprox. the same geared it's easy to probably balance the classes.



    what do you mean?

    ~ you want 4k arm pen? u know what i mean now?:D

    chek set stats
  • effectensteineffectenstein Member Posts: 1,031 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    ~ you want 4k arm pen? u know what i mean now?:D

    chek set stats

    if you are a WIZ or a TR just change your set with one that doesnt offer Armor pen... there are 3 different set so pick wisely..
  • thirdquestionthirdquestion Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 96
    edited January 2015
    if you are a WIZ or a TR just change your set with one that doesnt offer Armor pen... there are 3 different set so pick wisely..

    and all sets have HP bonus right? u rly smart, thx you!!!
  • effectensteineffectenstein Member Posts: 1,031 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    and all sets have HP bonus right? u rly smart, thx you!!!

    whats the difference at over 40k+ you have max of 2k hp more? when everyone does huge crits.. so yea.. i am rly smart , ty you.

    if thats the sets and those are the stats just gtf used to it .
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    TR sets have no hp bonus and more than 3k crits in some cases....
    4k armor is still better
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    ~ you want 4k arm pen? u know what i mean now?:D

    chek set stats

    Why do you even need ARP as a TR, dont you have feats that do ARP for you? Or abilities that bypass DR altogether like Shocking?
  • effectensteineffectenstein Member Posts: 1,031 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    nice, we forgot about the new rings/necks/belt with tenacity .
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    nice, we forgot about the new rings/necks/belt with tenacity .

    I would love to see this as well as weapon set (with an actual set bonus too!)

    The only things we have seen on the gateway are the gear, not the other pieces. Would be very cool to have new rings/belt/neck - however these would probably fall WAY short of artifact gear (perhaps?)

    It would be very cool if you could get "similar" gear to artifact gear:

    So things like a Drow Belt having like +2 Con with some other stats and +tenacity as well.


    Or the Weapon Set having a nice 2 piece set bonus as well as 2 offensive slots (without the class features). Etc.

    Id like to see this game lean BACK more towards "farmable" gear. I think Drow PVP gear (like weapons/neck/Belt/OH) could be like 80-90% as effective as artifact gear.
  • guedes2guedes2 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    release date is already provided ?
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I really hope the price will be reasonable... if they follow the old pattern every upgraded pvp piece would cost x6 sigils...this means 180 sigils for the whole set
    I dont even want to think about glory
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    rayrdan wrote: »
    I really hope the price will be reasonable... if they follow the old pattern every upgraded pvp piece would cost x6 sigils...this means 180 sigils for the whole set
    I dont even want to think about glory

    Sigils?


    Im not sure how your math is here x6 for each for 4 pieces is 24 Sigils? Do you mean Seal of Triumph?
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    ayroux wrote: »
    Sigils?


    Im not sure how your math is here x6 for each for 4 pieces is 24 Sigils? Do you mean Seal of Triumph?
    yeah sorry the italian for seal is "sigillo" , mixed two languages
    you need like 5 seals for grim, 30 for profound, lets hope drow is not something like 180 seals
  • thirdquestionthirdquestion Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 96
    edited January 2015
    REVIEW: AMA REDDIT WITH PRODUCER HEYROGERS
    NWO_Unblogged | December 19, 2014 | NWO, PWE/Cryptic, Review | 1 Comment
    For the second time, Producer HeyRogers answered questions from the Neverwinter community on Reddit two days ago. As always with official sources he remained vague mostly throughout, but nonetheless had interesting things to say about some areas.

    There were no specifics given on the upcoming Module 6, but he revealed it will be as big or even bigger than Module 3, because they won’t have to align with WotC content/storyline this time. Mod 3 brought open world, a PVP campaign, the Leaderboard and Heroic Encounters to the game. You can definitely argue the impact those additions had, but it was indeed an enormous update overall so Mod 6 will likely feature plethora of new features (“2 HUGE things 4 big things 1 medium thing 1 totally strange and unexpected thing” to be exact).

    The stuff he shared about PVE was mostly underwhelming. They are monitoring the RP situation and exploring to add more difficult “epic” versions of older dungeons to the endgame. From the sound of it they will be merely tweaking the RP gain here and there and this dungeon thing is at best two or three modules away. It seems, and he basically admited, that they are very anxious that some players could run out of things to do and therefore rather make the game very grindy. One big disappointment was calling off the queue system for Tiamat due to technical limitations, which would have brought a little bit more reliability to the fight. On the bright side: There will be housing at some point and more classes sooner that we might think!
    It’ll be interesting which route they’ll take for the next campaign with all the noise around the amount of dailies already in the game. HeyRogers also said they want to get people engaged in playing older content as well so one possibility would be sort of a PVP-campaign structure in which you have to achieve certain tasks to progress and dailies play only a minor role. But that’s a rather wild guess admittedly. We know there will be a dual spec or power layout at some point, but they haven’t said anything that should make you really confident it is happening in Mod 6.

    In terms of PVP there is some good and bad news.
    Bad: No more maps and game modes for at least this module (I’d say even the next two to three). HeyRogers reiterated in another topic that they won’t add certain features if the majority of players do not benefit from them and it has been repeatedly stated that the PVP population is negligible, at least on the bigger Dragon (international) server.
    Good: But he also did say that the changes in Mod 6 will impact both PVE and PVP gameplay and that they had recent success with running a leaderboard-centered tournament on the Russian server. Best guess is they will finally come up with some sort of premade-queue/challenging system to separate competitive and casual PVP, maybe even make the normal ranking a solo queue. Let’s just hope they are clever enough to fix the exploits involving the Leaderboard.

    NO PVP IN THIS GAME :)
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    i dunno if thirdquestion copy pasted this from some website but those are the same conclusions i ended up with
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    rayrdan wrote: »
    yeah sorry the italian for seal is "sigillo" , mixed two languages
    you need like 5 seals for grim, 30 for profound, lets hope drow is not something like 180 seals

    I heard a rumor itll be around 70 seals for the entire set. Nothing about glory though.

    Personally id like to see the entire set cost 70 seals and around 100k glory total. Id also like to see some other aspect added in like Tokens and GG coins to give incentive to farm that pvp too.


    Or the other idea of trading in older versions of gear for the new + seals.

    Like Drow Chest = Any Profound Chest + 10k glory and 10 Seals or something.
  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    ayroux wrote: »
    I heard a rumor itll be around 70 seals for the entire set. Nothing about glory though.

    Personally id like to see the entire set cost 70 seals and around 100k glory total. Id also like to see some other aspect added in like Tokens and GG coins to give incentive to farm that pvp too.


    Or the other idea of trading in older versions of gear for the new + seals.

    Like Drow Chest = Any Profound Chest + 10k glory and 10 Seals or something.

    Just to repeat my point of view:

    GG is guild-only limited content. It's not available to everyone and NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO JOIN A GUILD.

    It's ok to create guild-oriented content like guild PvP such as GG. And rewards linked to that.
    It's not ok to make being in a guild a requirement to be able to get gear.

    So you either leave GG requirements out of Drow sets OR create equivalent sets you can farm in "normal" PvP.

    Not everone wants to join a guild, and creating your own requires other people to help you do so.

    What about gear you can get only if you are NOT in a guild? Would you like the idea?
    Joining a guild must be an option that does not preclude enjoying general game content. Not a requirement to get a new armor set.

    Ask for a new GG set instead. Makes more sense.
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