i have drow instigator, destroyer , sentinel .
except they give +100 stats more.
and no overload slots.
I just looked at them in gateway and they show overload slots in the tooltip also the image for the gear shows 3 slots for all the gear but the boots they show 2 slots.
I just looked at them in gateway and they show overload slots in the tooltip also the image for the gear shows 3 slots for all the gear but the boots they show 2 slots.
the set was updated and now they have overload slots and the 2xslots you see : one is from utility and the other one its reinforced kits.
the prices on grym/profound sets will be decreased implementing the drow set. probably there will be a vendor where you can even trade the profound set for the drow set
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titaniumworldMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 28Arc User
Make them cost Glory, Seals of Triumph and Scrimshaw Trophies(w.e drops from players in OW PVP).
Offer another daily quest for another Seal of Triumph:
" Kill 10 enemy players in OW" or something OR "Win an OW Domination PVP"
Now you have 3 Seals per day max. It requires Glory/Seals and Skrimshaw so people have to do all types of PVP (Just like the Boons are).
For the sets, I would make them cost about the same glory as the Profound, about 1.5x the Seals as Profound. Then add something like 20 skrimshaw tokens to each piece as well.
Make them cost Glory, Seals of Triumph and Scrimshaw Trophies(w.e drops from players in OW PVP).
Offer another daily quest for another Seal of Triumph:
" Kill 10 enemy players in OW" or something OR "Win an OW Domination PVP"
Now you have 3 Seals per day max. It requires Glory/Seals and Skrimshaw so people have to do all types of PVP (Just like the Boons are).
For the sets, I would make them cost about the same glory as the Profound, about 1.5x the Seals as Profound. Then add something like 20 skrimshaw tokens to each piece as well.
i like the skrimshaw tokens idea, really exploitable but still good
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dragoness10Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 780Arc User
edited January 2015
ayroux - No thanks.
SCrimshaws are unfortunately exploitable by people whom "take over an instance" in ICewind or Dwarven Valley refusing to let others participate in the PvP unless they are from X or Y guild. They get part of both factions just to rack up the PvP achievements, and Scrimshaw tokens without actual effort/ interaction with other pug type people. Whilst this isn't always common I have seen it enough to make mention of it here.
In addition to this it shouldn't have to be ONLY for superhardcoreOMG PvP people to achive the Drow set.
Sure, have it cost more to reflect it's value, but you should be able to do ONE of three PvPs in order to get it. This means any currency from a kind of PvP could be used t buy it, plus the required Glory. Use Scrimshaw Trophy, Gauntelegrym Coin, or the Seal of Triumph. This allows for all types of PvP to be a pathway to the Drow set, and gives a use to all of them equally.
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beatannierMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 692Arc User
edited January 2015
In my previous MMO (no idea if can name it here) and there was points for killing people in Open World.
It was abusable as hell. If somebody wanted not to abuse at all (not killing guild–mated or own alts), was too low in rank and ended with slow mount what caused him to being insta–kicked from 20v20 pvp every time entered it as was not able to take spot fast enough.
I think it is a really bad idea.
i like the skrimshaw tokens idea, really exploitable but still good
Yeah maybe avoid the skrimshaw idea but I think incorporating OW Domination then would still be a good idea.
We have PVP "campaign" that has achievements for all three types of PVP, yet only two award you gear. I completely understand the exploitable nature of the tokens, but would still like to see some emphasis put back on OW Dom to achieve this gear.
Rather than using the daily to award a third seal of triumph, you could add yet another currency to the game that would be awarded for participating in any OW Dom match. This would put more people back into OW Dom again, which could be fun.
Making it participation I think would bypass too much exploiting, if any.
i think the PVP sets should be attainable even for a new commer, i dont think it's a good idea of having a huge glory fest over them.
thats why decreasing the PVP t1,grim and profound set, to make space for drow, would be more efficient.
i think the PVP sets should be attainable even for a new commer, i dont think it's a good idea of having a huge glory fest over them.
thats why decreasing the PVP t1,grim and profound set, to make space for drow, would be more efficient.
it would be best to halv pvp set prices, and set the new drow at the current profound price.
that would allow people to gear for pvp quite fast ( i mean newbie would afford the profound quite soon)
it would be best to halv pvp set prices, and set the new drow at the current profound price.
that would allow people to gear for pvp quite fast ( i mean newbie would afford the profound quite soon)
Im not sure how I feel about that TBH. 4 tiers is almost too many tiers of PVP gear.
When a person hits 60, looking at the PVP gear. I dont know if I would even waste time with the T1 set, since the T2 set is almost as easily attainable. Then if the Profound was easier to get and the Drow was just as easy as Profound today, they would skip straight to Drow sets.
As mentioned before, I would like SOME ties to the OW Domination. Even if OW Dom just offers a new "seal" available per day, that would be fine.
The current Profound gear costs 27 Seals and 80k glory, so currently you can attain this set in about 2 weeks of hardcore PVP playtime.
If you bump this to 3x Seals per day, the Profound set becomes attainable in about 9-10 days.
I think 75 Seals could be fair if you allow 3 seals per day. The current Profound gear costs about 80k glory. So maybe the Drow set can be increased slightly to 100k glory total.
I wouldnt even mind them adding in say, GG coins+ Skrimshaw as well, even if its not alot. It just ties all the PVP together.
This would be my suggestion (assuming 3x seals per day with a new daily for OW Domination PVP)
TOTAL: 100k Glory. 75 Seals. 50 Skrim. 86 GG coins.
~25 days play time.
I think this more than fair, gives incentive to play all three types of PVP. The only liability is the OW Dom and skrim currency as pointed out above, its exploitable, however I think its not enough to cause any real problems since its such a low amount required, but just enough to give incentive to play that type of PVP. Along with the daily, this would provide enough incentive to play the OW dom and participate (which is why I put the Skrim in there) 50 tokens it pretty easy to attain as you have a chance each kill to get one. Kill 10 players during OW Dom and youll have enough within a week of doing this.
Im not sure how I feel about that TBH. 4 tiers is almost too many tiers of PVP gear.
When a person hits 60, looking at the PVP gear. I dont know if I would even waste time with the T1 set, since the T2 set is almost as easily attainable. Then if the Profound was easier to get and the Drow was just as easy as Profound today, they would skip straight to Drow sets.
As mentioned before, I would like SOME ties to the OW Domination. Even if OW Dom just offers a new "seal" available per day, that would be fine.
The current Profound gear costs 27 Seals and 80k glory, so currently you can attain this set in about 2 weeks of hardcore PVP playtime.
If you bump this to 3x Seals per day, the Profound set becomes attainable in about 9-10 days.
I think 75 Seals could be fair if you allow 3 seals per day. The current Profound gear costs about 80k glory. So maybe the Drow set can be increased slightly to 100k glory total.
I wouldnt even mind them adding in say, GG coins+ Skrimshaw as well, even if its not alot. It just ties all the PVP together.
This would be my suggestion (assuming 3x seals per day with a new daily for OW Domination PVP)
TOTAL: 100k Glory. 75 Seals. 50 Skrim. 86 GG coins.
~25 days play time.
I think this more than fair, gives incentive to play all three types of PVP. The only liability is the OW Dom and skrim currency as pointed out above, its exploitable, however I think its not enough to cause any real problems since its such a low amount required, but just enough to give incentive to play that type of PVP. Along with the daily, this would provide enough incentive to play the OW dom and participate (which is why I put the Skrim in there) 50 tokens it pretty easy to attain as you have a chance each kill to get one. Kill 10 players during OW Dom and youll have enough within a week of doing this.
Thoughts?
sorry dud we didnt got an pvp content/gear since few months im not going to farm another month for the set when it comes out.
sorry dud we didnt got an pvp content/gear since few months im not going to farm another month for the set when it comes out.
Most players are glory capped at 50k already, have plenty GG coins as well as (if your smart) have continued doing the Seals.
I know on two of my characters I have over 100 GG coins, 50 Skrimshaw, 50k glory and like 30-40 seals.
This would put farm time down for seasoned players to like 10 days to farm this.
If its a new BIS gear, you cant expect it to just be handed out... This gear is better than blackice gear which takes around 30 days of the mod 3 campaign to farm.
Why would someone farm BI gear in 30 days if they could get the Drow set in 2 weeks.... Think about that. If you dont wanna farm it, you dont have to.
i like the idea of gettin the pvp gear.
but i belive its a bad idea for farming it alot.
1st i want a new commer to get the set asap
2nd he already has problems doing dailies / boons.
3rd if people are all aprox. the same geared it's easy to probably balance the classes.
This has been mentioned before but imo you should be trading in old pieces for the higher tier pieces. This way people aren't forced to skip tiers trying to get the higher tier gear. For example (will just use one piece per set for this):
This has been mentioned before but imo you should be trading in old pieces for the higher tier pieces. This way people aren't forced to skip tiers trying to get the higher tier gear. For example (will just use one piece per set for this):
I like this but doubt they would do this because of transmutes. This IMO would be the best as long as you could trade say boots from any of the t2.5 sets( IE - tactician/conqueror/preserver) for any of the new t3 boots.
Some people farmed one set and may want a different. You know what i mean.
Nope to GG coins cause not every player has a guild and can go to GG.
Glory and seals of triumph and anything else that is not restricted to guilds. GG is for guilds only, so you would basically cut-off the new set for all those who do not play GG/are not in a guild.
If they change it and make GG available for non-guilded toons, then ok.
Considering it would be bis, then limiting it to guilds is a big no.
Nope to GG coins cause not every player has a guild and can go to GG.
Glory and seals of triumph and anything else that is not restricted to guilds. GG is for guilds only, so you would basically cut-off the new set for all those who do not play GG/are not in a guild.
If they change it and make GG available for non-guilded toons, then ok.
Considering it would be bis, then limiting it to guilds is a big no.
it's not like you have to pay a rent to stay in a guild and it's not like you are forced to play with them GG if you dont want to.
It's not like you should be forced to join a guild to access new content. GG has it's own GG-related rewards.
Normal pvp gear should not be limite to guild-only content.
If you join a guild you have access to guild pvp (GG).
Not like 'if you want new pvp sets join a guild'.
If you want new GG sets ask for them. PvP gear is, and i hope will always be open to all players, even the ones who just like to be lone wolves and should not get penalized for that.
i like the idea of gettin the pvp gear.
but i belive its a bad idea for farming it alot.
1st i want a new commer to get the set asap
2nd he already has problems doing dailies / boons.
3rd if people are all aprox. the same geared it's easy to probably balance the classes.
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I just looked at them in gateway and they show overload slots in the tooltip also the image for the gear shows 3 slots for all the gear but the boots they show 2 slots.
the set was updated and now they have overload slots and the 2xslots you see : one is from utility and the other one its reinforced kits.
I know they updated them I was letting you know. thanks for the info on one of the slots being for armor kit.
with the overload slots this set looks it maybe the best option for GWF even in pve.
Make them cost Glory, Seals of Triumph and Scrimshaw Trophies(w.e drops from players in OW PVP).
Offer another daily quest for another Seal of Triumph:
" Kill 10 enemy players in OW" or something OR "Win an OW Domination PVP"
Now you have 3 Seals per day max. It requires Glory/Seals and Skrimshaw so people have to do all types of PVP (Just like the Boons are).
For the sets, I would make them cost about the same glory as the Profound, about 1.5x the Seals as Profound. Then add something like 20 skrimshaw tokens to each piece as well.
i like the skrimshaw tokens idea, really exploitable but still good
SCrimshaws are unfortunately exploitable by people whom "take over an instance" in ICewind or Dwarven Valley refusing to let others participate in the PvP unless they are from X or Y guild. They get part of both factions just to rack up the PvP achievements, and Scrimshaw tokens without actual effort/ interaction with other pug type people. Whilst this isn't always common I have seen it enough to make mention of it here.
In addition to this it shouldn't have to be ONLY for superhardcoreOMG PvP people to achive the Drow set.
Sure, have it cost more to reflect it's value, but you should be able to do ONE of three PvPs in order to get it. This means any currency from a kind of PvP could be used t buy it, plus the required Glory. Use Scrimshaw Trophy, Gauntelegrym Coin, or the Seal of Triumph. This allows for all types of PvP to be a pathway to the Drow set, and gives a use to all of them equally.
"Why is it dragons only use ketchup? I'd like a little wasabi please. Us silvers like a variety of condiments."
"Don't call them foolish mortals. One, they don't learn from it. Two, It just ticks them off." - An Ancient Red Dragon
It was abusable as hell. If somebody wanted not to abuse at all (not killing guild–mated or own alts), was too low in rank and ended with slow mount what caused him to being insta–kicked from 20v20 pvp every time entered it as was not able to take spot fast enough.
I think it is a really bad idea.
Yeah maybe avoid the skrimshaw idea but I think incorporating OW Domination then would still be a good idea.
We have PVP "campaign" that has achievements for all three types of PVP, yet only two award you gear. I completely understand the exploitable nature of the tokens, but would still like to see some emphasis put back on OW Dom to achieve this gear.
Rather than using the daily to award a third seal of triumph, you could add yet another currency to the game that would be awarded for participating in any OW Dom match. This would put more people back into OW Dom again, which could be fun.
Making it participation I think would bypass too much exploiting, if any.
thats why decreasing the PVP t1,grim and profound set, to make space for drow, would be more efficient.
it would be best to halv pvp set prices, and set the new drow at the current profound price.
that would allow people to gear for pvp quite fast ( i mean newbie would afford the profound quite soon)
Im not sure how I feel about that TBH. 4 tiers is almost too many tiers of PVP gear.
When a person hits 60, looking at the PVP gear. I dont know if I would even waste time with the T1 set, since the T2 set is almost as easily attainable. Then if the Profound was easier to get and the Drow was just as easy as Profound today, they would skip straight to Drow sets.
As mentioned before, I would like SOME ties to the OW Domination. Even if OW Dom just offers a new "seal" available per day, that would be fine.
The current Profound gear costs 27 Seals and 80k glory, so currently you can attain this set in about 2 weeks of hardcore PVP playtime.
If you bump this to 3x Seals per day, the Profound set becomes attainable in about 9-10 days.
I think 75 Seals could be fair if you allow 3 seals per day. The current Profound gear costs about 80k glory. So maybe the Drow set can be increased slightly to 100k glory total.
I wouldnt even mind them adding in say, GG coins+ Skrimshaw as well, even if its not alot. It just ties all the PVP together.
This would be my suggestion (assuming 3x seals per day with a new daily for OW Domination PVP)
Drow Chest:
30k Glory
22 Seals of Triumph
15 Skrimshaw
24 GG coins
Drow Helm/Bracers:
24k Glory
18 Seals
12 Skrim
20 GG coins
Drow Greaves:
22k Glory
17 Seals
11 Skrim
18 GG coins
TOTAL: 100k Glory. 75 Seals. 50 Skrim. 86 GG coins.
~25 days play time.
I think this more than fair, gives incentive to play all three types of PVP. The only liability is the OW Dom and skrim currency as pointed out above, its exploitable, however I think its not enough to cause any real problems since its such a low amount required, but just enough to give incentive to play that type of PVP. Along with the daily, this would provide enough incentive to play the OW dom and participate (which is why I put the Skrim in there) 50 tokens it pretty easy to attain as you have a chance each kill to get one. Kill 10 players during OW Dom and youll have enough within a week of doing this.
Thoughts?
sorry dud we didnt got an pvp content/gear since few months im not going to farm another month for the set when it comes out.
Most players are glory capped at 50k already, have plenty GG coins as well as (if your smart) have continued doing the Seals.
I know on two of my characters I have over 100 GG coins, 50 Skrimshaw, 50k glory and like 30-40 seals.
This would put farm time down for seasoned players to like 10 days to farm this.
If its a new BIS gear, you cant expect it to just be handed out... This gear is better than blackice gear which takes around 30 days of the mod 3 campaign to farm.
Why would someone farm BI gear in 30 days if they could get the Drow set in 2 weeks.... Think about that. If you dont wanna farm it, you dont have to.
Yup. Some sort of combination of glory, Triumph, Grym and a new curreny that drops from OW Domination or OW Domination daily.
but i belive its a bad idea for farming it alot.
1st i want a new commer to get the set asap
2nd he already has problems doing dailies / boons.
3rd if people are all aprox. the same geared it's easy to probably balance the classes.
what do you mean?
T1 PvP boots: 3,150 glory
T2 PvP boots: T1 PvP boots + 1 seal + 3000 glory
T2.5 PvP Boots: T2 PvP boots + 3 seals + 12000 glory
T3 PvP Boots: T3 PvP boots + 5 seals + 18000 glory
I like this but doubt they would do this because of transmutes. This IMO would be the best as long as you could trade say boots from any of the t2.5 sets( IE - tactician/conqueror/preserver) for any of the new t3 boots.
Some people farmed one set and may want a different. You know what i mean.
Glory and seals of triumph and anything else that is not restricted to guilds. GG is for guilds only, so you would basically cut-off the new set for all those who do not play GG/are not in a guild.
If they change it and make GG available for non-guilded toons, then ok.
Considering it would be bis, then limiting it to guilds is a big no.
Normal pvp gear should not be limite to guild-only content.
If you join a guild you have access to guild pvp (GG).
Not like 'if you want new pvp sets join a guild'.
If you want new GG sets ask for them. PvP gear is, and i hope will always be open to all players, even the ones who just like to be lone wolves and should not get penalized for that.
~ you want 4k arm pen? u know what i mean now?:D
chek set stats
if you are a WIZ or a TR just change your set with one that doesnt offer Armor pen... there are 3 different set so pick wisely..
and all sets have HP bonus right? u rly smart, thx you!!!
whats the difference at over 40k+ you have max of 2k hp more? when everyone does huge crits.. so yea.. i am rly smart , ty you.
if thats the sets and those are the stats just gtf used to it .
4k armor is still better
Why do you even need ARP as a TR, dont you have feats that do ARP for you? Or abilities that bypass DR altogether like Shocking?