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Suggestion: Let Arcane Sigularity benefit from Control Bonus
ianthewizard2012
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Not sure if I'm missing something, but Arcane Sigularity doesn't seem to benefit from Control Bonus at all.
Maybe it could get some love from Control Bonus, in any way.
Maybe it could get some love from Control Bonus, in any way.
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Honestly, if singularity had a cap like the other AoEs (5 target cap), literally no one would use it. Its not like the daily 1 shots everything each time its used since the damage is horrible and its a purely positioning spell. So, lowering the cap would make things worse. The moment it gets a 5 target cap, the daily becomes 100% useless.
An idea: Increasing the duration of mobs spinning in the black hole based on the control bonus the caster has. Also, mobs drop down from the black hole will now be prone for 1 second.
Besides I fail to see how would a control bonus have any effect on it anyway....
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"Increasing the duration of mobs spinning in the black hole based on the control bonus the caster has."
I think he was just describing that its basically the #1 tool in pve to make it op. The combination of 5 CW parties, running singularity in tandem, ALREADY make other classes useless in dungeons. He was being sarcastic as to the fact that it doesn't need to be even more powerful...
The mobs already smack the heck out of the mage while they're being drawn in anyway. So how would you expect a control bonus to do much of anything?
Yeah they're not helpless when they're in that thing guys. I'm just wondering why anyone things Control Bonus would actually even do anything since... you can't hit them with Shards OR Sudden Storm while there in there, and they're smacking the heck out of the caster right up until they're pulled upward briefly and dropped.
The whole idea when you have mages togather and using singularity is basically everyone summoning their Boulders and eyeing the minute those mobs will drop out of the sky... and basically waiting on them...
What do you think you'll get out of it?
More time waiting on them to drop?
More time to beat on the caster while being pulled in?
There's no real control in there to even apply a control bonus to.
No, but CWs don't care about it "disabling" mobs long enough. It pulls them together for mass aoe dps to bring together and burn down the mobs. They already make the dungeon easy mode.
P.S. your statement of "it works as perfectly intended in those adds-heavy dungeons is kind of hypocritical. For example, the devs admitted that HRs Constricting Arrow, for example, was WAI. But the qqers (mostly CWs, I might add. Myself NOT included) cried about it until its now NOT working as it used to now.
Well they're going to be beating on you the entire time they're in that... you know that right?
Not denying that, but parties aren't wanting only 1 CW nowadays, are they? They want those stacked teams. Tell me how often 5 stack HR/TR/GF/DC heck even GWF parties are put together...
Tell me, when was the last time an HR, TR, DC(with 1 already in party) was picked over a CW?
And how often can an HR queue to get in party?(a class with superior dps, imo) If youre an HR queueing, if you get in, theres most likely a CW already there. But a CW queueing? theres probably ALREADY one there.
If you want to increase their cc powers, there has to be some form of balance there. What if they hurt CWs dps sooo much to give you better control, that they do less damage than a tank based GF now? Would you complain about that?
But people don't want just a CONTROL wizard, do they? The reason CWs are picked is not just because of their control... the combination of control AND aoe dps makes them the most picked class in this game.
Look what happened to HR. In right hands, even superior dps to CW, but because they cant dps AND cc, their the least picked class(TR too, my bad) for dungeons. TRs used to be great single target dps... look what the nerfs did to them? Hardly picked now too.
Have you ever used Singularity?
The mobs rubber band out of it and smack you while they're being drawn in and up.
Its great at what it does... but its kinda painful to use.
Well you wouldn't have to worry about THAT so much if GFs had better agro control... and then on TOP of it,... be able to survive that many mobs.
You're screwed BECAUSE of the deficiencies in the other classes.
If the GF could hold agro better, IF the TR could still do their large amounts of Single Target damage... YOU would not be in the shoes of having to be EVERYTHING for Everybody.
Luckily at this time we still have GWFs that are functional and can assist and be a solid team member alongside Clerics.
. . . I don't have any issue with GF's or other classes fullfilling their roles. The GFs I know and play with know how to hold aggro and even take it away from me (the CW or Cleric). If aggro is that bad for you, you may wish to invest in reduced aggro feats and companions. That or either play with others who know their class or help them to understand it, instead of calling for drastic power changes for your preferred class.
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^Same, almost word for word, man. Plus, you know whatd happen if they put target cap on CWs? people would just slot more CWs...
I don't even understand how this would be viewed as an improvement.
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Thanks, I agree completely.
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My bad, I was under the impression that, by bundling them closer together longer, was the improvement OP'er was wanting...
The way you described it, yea sounds pretty stupid. But I mean in the way someone suggested that the "black hole' portion of the daily spinning them longer is put in place was what I was talking about...
PVE breaker lol...the only factor that "breaks" the pve is that the chars are increasingly strong (booms) and the dungeons are poorly developed!
Yeah that's what I was trying to get at too...
When the OP suggested it I was like... HUH?
Last thing CWs need is a buff in pve, they need a nerf in damage, and to balance that, frozen mobs not breaking on damage.
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Give it up... This class was never a very good controller in the first place, nor was it ever a support class.
You can't make it in to something its not...
You are going to need a completely new class if you want that. It was always been about AoEs and control through damage, nothing more.
You have either Spellstorm that is an AoE Burst Damager or Master of Flame which is an AoE DoT damager, its never been anything but that. Once they nerfed the Action Point gain long ago they made it so we actually had to use Encounter powers instead of Dailys all the time.
We can't hide it anymore. Its not a controller and never will be.
. . . Honestly, since launch, my main CW was an AP Gain build. Even after the change, I barely noticed it and now with the companions, artifact, and potions... its like it never happened. I actually gain more AP now.
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