Cryptic when willl we get our 7th and 8th and 9th classes?
Also our 3rd paragon path for the current 6 classes what is the timeline etc?
I would like to know as well bump.
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dardoveMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited February 2014
When we near the release of a module, they will reveal it's contents (and whether that includes new classes or paragon paths). They won't reveal their long term plans well ahead of time because they could very well change.
in regards to your bread and butter comment, the game is incredibly broken as it stands and it really does need fixing, i agree more classes would be awesome and i would be at the forefront for supporting them but with the amount of inequalities in the game the expierance slowly gets deprived of its wonders as you realize all thats wrong with it. I would love a new class, but i think they should slow it down a bit with how fast they are going forward and focus on fixing things first instead.
Examples on how it is broken? You may be right. I have not noticed anything game breaking, certainly not in anything like a 'nail in the coffin' way. PvP may be what you are talking about, as I have no interest in it in this game, so have no experiences with that.
Reguardless of how broken anything is, they HAVE to keep making classes to keep up their revenue stream. its like the fuel for the neverwinter store engine. Broken things should also be worked on as well, but you cant stop the revenue. It's like if a shark stops swimming it will die, because it cant breath unless its moving.
Anyway, Warlock/Druid(shapeshifter)/Paladin/Monk are all very solid classes that would bring a lot of depth and value to this game's line up.
Wouldn't mind seeing another mage class, maybe a war-wizard who focuses on combat fire spells (fireball anyone?)
Dragon shaman would be cool too, but that was a 3rd edition class that would be unlikely to be added, but a VERY cool class.
They don't do "timelines" here. That leads to broken promises and rageposting.
Just like every game.
Regarding the OP (before the thread was merged into the main class thread), its not likely to be soon since module 3 is mostly a pvp update for the most part. I don't see why people demand instant timelines and plans for an entire year or longer...new updates seem to be on a 3-4 month release cycle. Maybe it will be near June; if not, then November/October. If not then, then next February/March or so... Free to play games almost never give long term plans to the public to avoid people complaining if it gets delayed.
Examples on how it is broken? You may be right. I have not noticed anything game breaking, certainly not in anything like a 'nail in the coffin' way. PvP may be what you are talking about, as I have no interest in it in this game, so have no experiences with that.
Reguardless of how broken anything is, they HAVE to keep making classes to keep up their revenue stream. its like the fuel for the neverwinter store engine. Broken things should also be worked on as well, but you cant stop the revenue. It's like if a shark stops swimming it will die, because it cant breath unless its moving.
Anyway, Warlock/Druid(shapeshifter)/Paladin/Monk are all very solid classes that would bring a lot of depth and value to this game's line up.
Wouldn't mind seeing another mage class, maybe a war-wizard who focuses on combat fire spells (fireball anyone?)
Dragon shaman would be cool too, but that was a 3rd edition class that would be unlikely to be added, but a VERY cool class.
In regards to the broken things in the game, A lot of armor, abilities and feats, as well as the armor penetration dont seem to be working as it stands. In addition to this CW's control PvE and PvP is just a state of hazzard. And for the third time, i know classes are required, but pumping them out at the pace cryptic has planned will create more bugs before the old ones can be resolved, Im not going to lie, I dont really like any of the classes at the moment because I just really want Monk, Warlock and druid, but I still play the game because everything else has a lot of promise. I am simply saying resolving some of the bugs before shooting forward so fast will only make the game colapse under its own weight.
props for the shark in the water analogy
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cenobite451Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 87
edited February 2014
Hm. "Dragon shaman" sounds like it could be turned into a really cool druid paragon path actually. (Admittedly I have no idea how it worked in 3e.)
There are already five out of seven base classes in this game already, Fighter(Dungeonering), Thief(Thievery), Mage(Arcane), Primal(Nature), and Divine(Religion).
Is there any word that the other two missing parent classes from 4E will make a showing at all? Which happen to be Psions and Shadows. These two base classes just happen to have arsenals of really cool classes.
Which include:
Psions: Psion, Monk, Battlemind, and Ardent.
More info from the official WotC website: Click Here
Shadows: Assassin, Vampire, and even the shadow version of other classes. Such as Warlock, Paladin, Cleric, and Wizard.
More info from the official WotC website: Click Here
These are all official classes from DnD 4E and I haven't heard a word on any of these classes. I'm just curious if they will be added or if Cryptic has decided that they are unimportant and won't even be considered.
You're (Civil/Non Sarcastic) thoughts?
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I'm sure eventually there will be a large base of classes and they will continually be adding more. However, they keep things generally hidden till close to release, and I don't believe there has been any confirmation yet of what is coming next. Either way, I trust them to give us entertaining classes so I am not going to try to push for anything myself. They did a good job tuning the HR to what people wanted to see as I am sure they will continue to do with any future classes released.
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fauust01Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited February 2014
I think Warlock will be next i am 99 % sure. ( some mobs are warlocks kinda, Makos is warlock, some NPC's seems warlock liek also , warlock items droped back in beta )
but i hopefully will be there when Psion will come out, i love Psions.
Psions sounds like a really interesting class , I really need to read up on D&D , I played Warhammer Fantasy roleplay and WH Fantasy battle as a kid and never played D&D , lots of catching up to do xD
I personally would like to have a Melee Psion after the release of the next class, since Warlock is currently highly anticipated to be the next class (which is awesome). Scourge Warlock seems to be a ranged wizard combined with the trickiness of a rogue, so having a straightforward melee like a Monk will be a welcome break from all the ranged classes so far. We only have 2 real melee classes in the game. It would be nice to get more.
I'd say it will be a paladin or the equivalent of 4th edition. Can heal, can tank. Covers those highly needed slots for dungeons. And everyone wants to be a paladin!
As to the Op's question, I doubt we will be seeing shadow. The only really viable class in there is assassin, and trickster rogues seem to much like an assassin for them to jump on that. Forgotten realms lore has some pretty epic assassins though (Artemis Entrari anyone?).
As for Psion, I could see either Monk and/or Psion being developed. Both classes exist in the lore of Forgotten realms (with monk being a bit more prevelant).
I understand Warlock is on the roadmap (which I am anxiously waiting for) and it's (possibly) easier to create by using the Control Wizard as a base, rather than building it entirely from scratch.
I say: have some patience. More races and classes are forthcoming. These things take time and Neverwinter is only a year old (counting from Closed beta period, and soon if counting from open beta). If it were easy to do I have no doubt the Devs would have launched Neverwinter with a dozen races and classes to begin with.
On the contrary, I would like to see another "guide" such as the Warlord is. Paladin would be so similar to GWF/GF with few heals.
Warlord should be different and focus on heal, buff and debuff.
From where I see it, we have 1 healer, 2 tanks, and 4 dps
I think we need another healer first.
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kolbe11Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited February 2014
In 2011, Cryptic showed off the Hellfire Warlock (AKA Scourge Warlock), but stated it was quote "not as complete" as the rest of the classes... Ranger was actually completed before the game went live. Proof of that can be seen in any number of teaser trailers and images put out by Cryptic PR prior to acquisition by PWE.
Further, Hellfire Warlock gear and mentions were made throughout the game from Alpha through Closed Beta.
From what I saw, it had a tab power like TR Stealth (Called Shadows), used Eldritch powers, could infect people with disease/curses for DoT, had a vampiric embrace and could raise the dead to fight as a temporary ally/additional companion (at least until the spell wore off or it died).
So, I'm pretty sure as well that the next class will be "Warlock based". Why do something from scratch when half of the material is already done?
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Yeah, most of us agree that the warlock is probably the next class that will be ready, my point was what class is probably more needed, not what is the next class nearest for completition
Yeah, most of us agree that the warlock is probably the next class that will be ready, my point was what class is probably more needed, not what is the next class nearest for completition
I expect we'll see Druid after the Warlock. Either Druid or Paladin should have some heals.
Yeah, most of us agree that the warlock is probably the next class that will be ready, my point was what class is probably more needed, not what is the next class nearest for completition
Understood. To quote OP: "Shadows: Assassin, Vampire, and even the shadow version of other classes. Such as Warlock, Paladin, Cleric, and Wizard." [emphasis is mine] - my "Warlock on the roadmap" comment was simply to point this out. I believe Kolbe11 was simply reinforcing my belief of this.
Big Kahuna Game Producer has already stated publicly that the next class will (very likely) be either Warlock or Druid as those are the most popular requests. Personally, I'm itching for Warlock myself.
In the end, the OP points, albeit good ones, are moot as all or most of these will be forthcoming. But it takes time to implement all these. The Wizard was delayed again and again because it needed a lot of vetting (since it's openly available now, I can say I played it a lot in Alpha testing) - look how long that one took to be released, and then all the rebalancing after release.
Warlock (or Druid or ???) is likely completed already - but must undergo a LOT of QA before it's even announced.
i have it on good authority there will be no Paladin class in this game. trust me i wanted it myself but there will not be one unfortunatly. maybe thats why i have 7 different characters at 60 now was waiting and hopeing but not anymore. if after ESO comes out and if this game is alive still i would love to see druid.
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I would like to know as well bump.
A vote for monk...unarmed combat so we can go kung fu on their arses.
Examples on how it is broken? You may be right. I have not noticed anything game breaking, certainly not in anything like a 'nail in the coffin' way. PvP may be what you are talking about, as I have no interest in it in this game, so have no experiences with that.
Reguardless of how broken anything is, they HAVE to keep making classes to keep up their revenue stream. its like the fuel for the neverwinter store engine. Broken things should also be worked on as well, but you cant stop the revenue. It's like if a shark stops swimming it will die, because it cant breath unless its moving.
Anyway, Warlock/Druid(shapeshifter)/Paladin/Monk are all very solid classes that would bring a lot of depth and value to this game's line up.
Wouldn't mind seeing another mage class, maybe a war-wizard who focuses on combat fire spells (fireball anyone?)
Dragon shaman would be cool too, but that was a 3rd edition class that would be unlikely to be added, but a VERY cool class.
Just like every game.
Regarding the OP (before the thread was merged into the main class thread), its not likely to be soon since module 3 is mostly a pvp update for the most part. I don't see why people demand instant timelines and plans for an entire year or longer...new updates seem to be on a 3-4 month release cycle. Maybe it will be near June; if not, then November/October. If not then, then next February/March or so... Free to play games almost never give long term plans to the public to avoid people complaining if it gets delayed.
props for the shark in the water analogy
Is there any word that the other two missing parent classes from 4E will make a showing at all? Which happen to be Psions and Shadows. These two base classes just happen to have arsenals of really cool classes.
Which include:
Psions: Psion, Monk, Battlemind, and Ardent.
More info from the official WotC website: Click Here
Shadows: Assassin, Vampire, and even the shadow version of other classes. Such as Warlock, Paladin, Cleric, and Wizard.
More info from the official WotC website: Click Here
These are all official classes from DnD 4E and I haven't heard a word on any of these classes. I'm just curious if they will be added or if Cryptic has decided that they are unimportant and won't even be considered.
You're (Civil/Non Sarcastic) thoughts?
but i hopefully will be there when Psion will come out, i love Psions.
As for Psion, I could see either Monk and/or Psion being developed. Both classes exist in the lore of Forgotten realms (with monk being a bit more prevelant).
I say: have some patience. More races and classes are forthcoming. These things take time and Neverwinter is only a year old (counting from Closed beta period, and soon if counting from open beta). If it were easy to do I have no doubt the Devs would have launched Neverwinter with a dozen races and classes to begin with.
Warlord..mehhm.. no need.
Warlord should be different and focus on heal, buff and debuff.
I think we need another healer first.
Further, Hellfire Warlock gear and mentions were made throughout the game from Alpha through Closed Beta.
From what I saw, it had a tab power like TR Stealth (Called Shadows), used Eldritch powers, could infect people with disease/curses for DoT, had a vampiric embrace and could raise the dead to fight as a temporary ally/additional companion (at least until the spell wore off or it died).
So, I'm pretty sure as well that the next class will be "Warlock based". Why do something from scratch when half of the material is already done?
I expect we'll see Druid after the Warlock. Either Druid or Paladin should have some heals.
Adding these classes would make me a happy camper.
Understood. To quote OP: "Shadows: Assassin, Vampire, and even the shadow version of other classes. Such as Warlock, Paladin, Cleric, and Wizard." [emphasis is mine] - my "Warlock on the roadmap" comment was simply to point this out. I believe Kolbe11 was simply reinforcing my belief of this.
Big Kahuna Game Producer has already stated publicly that the next class will (very likely) be either Warlock or Druid as those are the most popular requests. Personally, I'm itching for Warlock myself.
In the end, the OP points, albeit good ones, are moot as all or most of these will be forthcoming. But it takes time to implement all these. The Wizard was delayed again and again because it needed a lot of vetting (since it's openly available now, I can say I played it a lot in Alpha testing) - look how long that one took to be released, and then all the rebalancing after release.
Warlock (or Druid or ???) is likely completed already - but must undergo a LOT of QA before it's even announced.
i have it on good authority there will be no Paladin class in this game. trust me i wanted it myself but there will not be one unfortunatly. maybe thats why i have 7 different characters at 60 now was waiting and hopeing but not anymore. if after ESO comes out and if this game is alive still i would love to see druid.