Look I agree with the Rollback, but it should be just the astrals that get rolled back from the auction house. Not the leveling, quests progression or astrals from dailys or Items.
I have lost something. My AD from the founders pack, for which i paid real money, is now next to worthless. Since they refuse to do anything about that i demand at least a cat so i'm on par with the dishonest people
Try again and this time take some time to think about what you post and try cutting back on the insults and swear words. It only makes you look like a child
You can't say it's next to worthless as we haven't yet seen what they're doing to balance the economy. When the AH and AD exchange come back up and IF they haven't done anything to fix it, then you can complain about it being worthless.
First thing I am going to do once the ZEN/AD Exchange is back online is test the Cat Bug and see if they fixed it.
Oh..they'll have fixed it....just dont forget how it was done, because I wager it's not the only thing in game that will have the same coding...copy/pasting dont you know; and end up the same kind of exploit happening again.
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drakedge2Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
Seeing the amount of cat trading still going on, apparently you didnt fix this.
As a level 60 player who "missed" this debacle because I hadn't logged into the game for afew days anyway, all I can say about this mess is just that, it is a mess. I can see the players who have been hit hard by this (the ones who lost levels/items etc) & if I were one of them I don't think this gift bag you have planned would be enough to make me want to stick around. On top of these problems are the people who have clearly exploited the market for weeks now. All we have to take is Cryptics word that these players will be delt with. I just have a feeling that many of these exploiters will escape the hands of justice on this one & the few that are caught & punished will just be token examples for Cryptic to point at and say "Look we did get the exploiters!". And then the damage to the economy has well and truly already been done.
Then if they are going to roll back now, chances are they could do another roll-back for another reason again. Then they might even change their minds and roll-back for launch too. It just leaves players like me thinking is there any point to playing on if there is even the slightest chance that anything I gained etc might be taken away from me in a roll-back. Cryptic really need to re-assure the playerbase after this debacle.
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Nothing could justify a 7 hour loss in progression! It is ridiculous that I wasted my morning on one of my few days off progressing in a game only to wake up to being exactly where I was the previous day. I choose which games to play in my limited spare time and had hoped for better treatment from Neverwinter. It is doubtful that I will continue to play after this fiasco. When will something like this happen again? I am not a big fan of leveling and have no interest in repeating this time and time again.
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nootje007Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
i really hope my items are still on AH or will be in the mail, all my 400 legit earned drakeseals were in there as in 2 times the drakeseal companion,
Nothing could justify a 7 hour loss in progression! It is ridiculous that I wasted my morning on one of my few days off progressing in a game only to wake up to being exactly where I was the previous day. I choose which games to play in my limited spare time and had hoped for better treatment from Neverwinter. It is doubtful that I will continue to play after this fiasco. When will something like this happen again? I am not a big fan of leveling and have interest in repeating this time and time again.
The next time something like this will happen is the next time someone finds an exploit to create millions of AD and instead of contacting the devs and leaving well enough alone publicly posts how too do it.
nice, here i was, trying not to use this bug, thinking that they would roll back and everything i worked for would be back to normal.
Then, cheaters lol about this, because all the items they bought on AH is still in their storage. Meanwhile, all the people who sold their items in good faith at normal prices don't have these items or the AD they sold it for ... no sir, it's in the storage of the cheat abusing people ...
nice
not only do they still have the items in bank (rank 8-9 runes, weapons runes, ancient weapons, etc ...), but also their pets (cats are selling like crazy), but also the balance AD they put on the Zen market ...
So lets say u scamed 100 millions (which everybody seemed to have done except me, since they are all loling about it), u put them on the zen market asking for zen at a top price (so u sure to get zen as soon as someone sells some), and there they are ... still there ...
So the roll back happens to suppress the AD from your character account, your lvl, progress ... but does not affect your bank storage or you Zen market ...
meaning even if i get my items that were on the AH, ppl who bought them will still have them (items duplicated i guess).
i so worked my *** to farm or make nice items, sell them for a regular price, and a cheater is going to have them for free ...
I also did a lot of work to be able to buy a pet, and now everybody owns it ... again for free ...
Rollback did not affect everything, and that is a strong problem !
I had 2473 Bars at the time of the rollback open a few boxes and got to 2510 bought a Heavy Twilight Nightmare put it on AH and it was bought for 1833000 AD had the mail in my inbox. Logged this Morning, no email with AD, no mount and no bars. Also had A Pheora Pet and other items all in my bids place before the 5:20 AM yesterday all gone. Do you have a claiming email I can post to?
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A: Post it in this thread! We'll dig through to find common questions, and we'll edit this post to include them.
At this point, I feel the most sympathy for the people who have to sort through the trash this forum thread degenerated into trying to actually find anything relevant. I also feel bad for the people in the community who have legit questions and concerns, or who have made valid observations only to have in lost among all the bickering and pointless posturing. I understand people are frustrated. It's a betch of a situation but trying to outsling another person's e-<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> in a thread meant to address and help the community doesn't improve the current state of things. It's just adds to the chaos.
Call me simple, but Id rather get a bigger bag then a super fancy or powerful item. Although, if you really want to drop my jaw, give me a cool companion. Doesn't even have to be strong, just fun.
Of course, since none of this was your fault, Id be satisfied with you punishing the abusers. I dont think they should be allowed to get away with having such a negative impact on so many people.
TBH untill this fiasco is resolved fully i wont play the game but i a logging in to keep my astral coins etc untill the full ramifications of this are sorted, I still hope for a full wipe as the game cant be a fair playing field for ligit player until all the cats (that have now prob changed hands many times) and ALL the AD that has been duped is removed from the game.
Yes i do have a lvl 60 char and have purples etc but for the sake of the game this needs to be done.
Im not against the revert, because a couple hours to save tons of harm on the economy is worth it.
I am against celestial coins I lost. I have 3 characters, all of them had 5 or 6 coins and with the revert + the downtime yesterday the coins were reset and I lost an entire weeks worth of saving.
Something should be done about that. Those rune boxes are a great source of starting income or relief to the cost of your lvl 60 character. Losing a weeks worth of a coins on 3 toons is devastating.
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jn2002dk1Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
You can't say it's next to worthless as we haven't yet seen what they're doing to balance the economy. When the AH and AD exchange come back up and IF they haven't done anything to fix it, then you can complain about it being worthless.
True but as of right now it's worthless and a 7 hour rollback wont bring it back to the value it was supposed to be because people have been exploiting this for a long time now, it just became public knowledge 2 days ago
I am waiting to see how they handle it but to be completely honest i doubt they'll do anything. We have the rollback and their claim they're banning people. The rollback wasn't nearly long enough to counter the exploits and the bans...well it's a f2p game and i suspect many have already taken counter measures by using mules and mules of mules or sold their AD
What concerns me most is that so far these measures are actually punishing the honest players more than the cheaters and that's why i expect a REALLY nice package as compensation
So, why are my measly 200k worth of honestly worked for AD still stuck in the DEAD Zen exchange thing? If the feature is disabled until further notice, why don't you release the currency stuck in it? If it was bogus, you would have already erased it so you know it it is most likely legit.
This seems like another half measure on your part, kinda like bringing the game back up without the auction house. I was warned that the AH was the weakest functionality in all these PW games, it turns out those warning were 100% spot on.
And to all those doubters who said no rollback or they can't roll back, you look pretty damned stupid right now.
Lol, the character I created yesterday is deleted xDDDDD
I know I know, is necessary for things come back to normality, but can you give me the configuration? I don't really care about the items and level, because I just started yesterday so I didn't lose anything really good, but I would like to have my character with the appearance he had, it was cool, and I liked it, do I must wait or simply I have to create a new one? I don't have any character on my account, is empty again. Thanks for your attention and help
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shrykualyssaMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 3Arc User
edited May 2013
I am really glad the roll back happened and not an entire wipe! Thank you for taking action to getting things back on track! I am also looking forward to this pack we are getting
The exploiters now have 50,000,000+ AD, thousands of Gold, and duplicates of most of the Purple items. How are the non-cheaters ever going to complete?
I am a Lawyer in real life, but I try to roleplay an honorable character
okay, other players had to tell me where to find this. Why the hell isnt there an ingame message telling me there has been a 7 hour reroll, why isnt it on the hompage or at least in the NEWS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS area of the forum? this is news AND an announcement right? I couldnt find this and kidna panicked thinking the entire game got rerolled by hackers or something, instead of just a backup placed back to fix some issues. Its ok to do a reroll for something like that, but it's not okay to hide it like that! look, I understand you dont want bad publicity, but I'm playing this game and if my character / the server gets rerolled a couple of hours, I'd like to know, so you tell em instead of me askign everyone wtf happened!
The exploiters now have 50,000,000+ AD, thousands of Gold, and duplicates of most of the Purple items. How are the non-cheaters ever going to complete?
Exploiters are/will be banned already. This was taken care of yesterday afternoon. They received emails. Unless they missed a lot of people.
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You can't say it's next to worthless as we haven't yet seen what they're doing to balance the economy. When the AH and AD exchange come back up and IF they haven't done anything to fix it, then you can complain about it being worthless.
seriously hope a perma ban for them.. i know PWE have perma banned people in other games for less than this..!!!
Oh..they'll have fixed it....just dont forget how it was done, because I wager it's not the only thing in game that will have the same coding...copy/pasting dont you know; and end up the same kind of exploit happening again.
Then if they are going to roll back now, chances are they could do another roll-back for another reason again. Then they might even change their minds and roll-back for launch too. It just leaves players like me thinking is there any point to playing on if there is even the slightest chance that anything I gained etc might be taken away from me in a roll-back. Cryptic really need to re-assure the playerbase after this debacle.
The next time something like this will happen is the next time someone finds an exploit to create millions of AD and instead of contacting the devs and leaving well enough alone publicly posts how too do it.
not only do they still have the items in bank (rank 8-9 runes, weapons runes, ancient weapons, etc ...), but also their pets (cats are selling like crazy), but also the balance AD they put on the Zen market ...
So lets say u scamed 100 millions (which everybody seemed to have done except me, since they are all loling about it), u put them on the zen market asking for zen at a top price (so u sure to get zen as soon as someone sells some), and there they are ... still there ...
So the roll back happens to suppress the AD from your character account, your lvl, progress ... but does not affect your bank storage or you Zen market ...
meaning even if i get my items that were on the AH, ppl who bought them will still have them (items duplicated i guess).
i so worked my *** to farm or make nice items, sell them for a regular price, and a cheater is going to have them for free ...
I also did a lot of work to be able to buy a pet, and now everybody owns it ... again for free ...
Rollback did not affect everything, and that is a strong problem !
I'd like this issue answered in the FAQ please
At this point, I feel the most sympathy for the people who have to sort through the trash this forum thread degenerated into trying to actually find anything relevant. I also feel bad for the people in the community who have legit questions and concerns, or who have made valid observations only to have in lost among all the bickering and pointless posturing. I understand people are frustrated. It's a betch of a situation but trying to outsling another person's e-<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> in a thread meant to address and help the community doesn't improve the current state of things. It's just adds to the chaos.
Mew.
Of course, since none of this was your fault, Id be satisfied with you punishing the abusers. I dont think they should be allowed to get away with having such a negative impact on so many people.
The economy can't "fix itself".
The bans only remove the accounts involved.
The real problem is the exploited AD still in circulation and the effect they have had, and are still having, on the economy.
The only way to truly "fix" that is a roll back to a point before it was possible to utilize that exploit.
That means a server-wipe.
Without that all they are doing is sticking a small band-aid on an 4 foot long wound.
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Yes i do have a lvl 60 char and have purples etc but for the sake of the game this needs to be done.
I am against celestial coins I lost. I have 3 characters, all of them had 5 or 6 coins and with the revert + the downtime yesterday the coins were reset and I lost an entire weeks worth of saving.
Something should be done about that. Those rune boxes are a great source of starting income or relief to the cost of your lvl 60 character. Losing a weeks worth of a coins on 3 toons is devastating.
I am waiting to see how they handle it but to be completely honest i doubt they'll do anything. We have the rollback and their claim they're banning people. The rollback wasn't nearly long enough to counter the exploits and the bans...well it's a f2p game and i suspect many have already taken counter measures by using mules and mules of mules or sold their AD
What concerns me most is that so far these measures are actually punishing the honest players more than the cheaters and that's why i expect a REALLY nice package as compensation
This seems like another half measure on your part, kinda like bringing the game back up without the auction house. I was warned that the AH was the weakest functionality in all these PW games, it turns out those warning were 100% spot on.
And to all those doubters who said no rollback or they can't roll back, you look pretty damned stupid right now.
I know I know, is necessary for things come back to normality, but can you give me the configuration? I don't really care about the items and level, because I just started yesterday so I didn't lose anything really good, but I would like to have my character with the appearance he had, it was cool, and I liked it, do I must wait or simply I have to create a new one? I don't have any character on my account, is empty again. Thanks for your attention and help
Exploiters are/will be banned already. This was taken care of yesterday afternoon. They received emails. Unless they missed a lot of people.
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