acwhistlerMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 23Arc User
edited May 2013
Patching 2 of the exploits tomorrow. Time to see if this game will live or die... will they effectively wipe the AD/Zen from those that cheated or not...
Patching 2 of the exploits tomorrow. Time to see if this game will live or die... will they effectively wipe the AD/Zen from those that cheated or not...
I am as well hoping for some kind of punishment and I am waiting anxiously for the full patch notes.
Well, if you're satisfied with gold, that's fine. But I think that most people would prefer to sell their excess gear on the AH for Astral Diamonds, given that ADs are used for far more -- & arguably, far more important -- things than gold.
Exactly. Time to stop feeding the fantrolls. It doesn't matter what argument you put up to show how absolutely freakin wrong they are, they just make up a new argument.
This game is broke, wipe it.
I'm pretty sure that PW/Cryptic has options beyond merely "wipe it clear," & I'd strongly prefer they exercise those options before they go nuclear on the player base. I don't think that saying this makes me a "fantroll," nor do I think it even implies that I'm ignoring the arguments in favor of a wipe.
Fare you well
Let your life proceed by its own designs
Nothing to tell
Let the words be yours, I'm done with mine ...
just had a GF in my party with ovver 4million dps what the hell????????????????
4 million dps that sounds a lot, so he should have like 4 000 000 x 2700 damage done at the end of the instance if it takes 45 mins.. Now that's a lot.
I just like to point out, all of you guys that are stating "Oh why punish me when I didn't do anything" Because it effects the ENTIRE game, not just you. Mainly the economy is going to end up like D3 and be ruined.
Also - The game is in OPEN beta, not a finished project.
The game is FREE.
You are not entitled to ANYTHING. The game is free, the only people who are entitled to something are the people who bought zen or founder.
Well, if you're satisfied with gold, that's fine. But I think that most people would prefer to sell their excess gear on the AH for Astral Diamonds, given that ADs are used for far more -- & arguably, far more important -- things than gold.
Yes. But the issue here is that the AD/AH market is borked. Regardless, the fact remains that getting AD from these items are not required to progress through the game. Hence disabling the AH will not break the game.
Btw the exploits will be fixed, they have announced a maintenance. They will also look into the economy so hopefully they will fix everything. All that's needed now is to ban all the cheaters and remove all items + ad that was involved in the cheating.
I haven't seen this posted anywhere on this forum, so I'm just gonna mention that I don't want a wipe simply because I invested nearly 2 days of play time to merely hit 60. Probably that much again gearing up.
I played through the single player stuff legitimately and enjoyed it, but I wouldn't enjoy having to do it again and would more likely just quit playing rather than be forced to go through it again.
Surely, though, there is a way of seeing ' Oh, dickhead@knobjockey sure has posted a lot of epics... he appears to be getting them all from this unguilded GF wearing a very specific item set... ban hammer' (wiping all further effect that player can have on the market).
Yes, damage has been done, prices have come down in alot of places, but it is not significant enough to have shifted the economy past an equilibrium it would otherwise have reached. Yet. If these illegitimate millionaires can be prevented from messing anything up further, all that's happened is a slight acceleration in the status of the economy.*
Patching 2 of the exploits tomorrow. Time to see if this game will live or die... will they effectively wipe the AD/Zen from those that cheated or not...
They can't even answer petitions. I doubt they will put the manhours in for it.
I spend all day reading every thread and letting people know this is BETA.
Btw the exploits will be fixed, they have announced a maintenance. They will also look into the economy so hopefully they will fix everything. All that's needed now is to ban all the cheaters and remove all items + ad that was involved in the cheating.
which is great and all but the servers sould be taken down now and the fix applied instead of in 11 more hours, when 11 more hours worth of gear has flooded the market and 11 more hours of ill-gotten diamonds have flooded teh economy.
which is great and all but the servers sould be taken down now and the fix applied instead of in 11 more hours, when 11 more hours worth of gear has flooded the market and 11 more hours of ill-gotten diamonds have flooded teh economy.
That only matters if they dont do anything about the ill gotten diamonds.
Off topic why do people feel the need to hyphenate words that dont need it.
which is great and all but the servers sould be taken down now and the fix applied instead of in 11 more hours, when 11 more hours worth of gear has flooded the market and 11 more hours of ill-gotten diamonds have flooded teh economy.
True, true.
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dixa1Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 4Arc User
That only matters if they dont do anything about the ill gotten diamonds.
Off topic why do people feel the need to hyphenate words that dont need it.
the exploiters can use diff accounts created by differnt people or with diff emails to disseminate their diamonds through the auction house by posting low level greens for tens of thousands of diamonds.
i hyphenate to make grammar HAMSTER mad. helps me stay warm on cold nights.
the exploiters can use diff accounts created by differnt people or with diff emails to disseminate their diamonds through the auction house by posting low level greens for tens of thousands of diamonds.
i hyphenate to make grammar HAMSTER mad. helps me stay warm on cold nights.
Wow sounds like alot of these exploiters have quite the astral diamond underground started if they are doing this. I mean we are talking about Astral Diamond laundrying here
the exploiters can use diff accounts created by differnt people or with diff emails to disseminate their diamonds through the auction house by posting low level greens for tens of thousands of diamonds.
i hyphenate to make grammar HAMSTER mad. helps me stay warm on cold nights.
Which the devs all have logs for..
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dixa1Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 4Arc User
Wow sounds like alot of these exploiters have quite the astral diamond underground started if they are doing this. I mean we are talking about Astral Diamond laundrying here
dude on his stream wsa just talking about making sure he spread his wealth before the patch at 7am as they repeatedly one shot the dracolich.....
This game is broke as a joke. PWE and Cryptic could not possibly care less; they got their money and sold us a lemon. There is 0% chance of a wipe and probably similar chance of punitive action on players. Play it and enjoy it for what it is, but don't count on this game being very much different in the future from what it is now.
Wow sounds like alot of these exploiters have quite the astral diamond underground started if they are doing this. I mean we are talking about Astral Diamond laundrying here
People are posting think Cryptic is going to dedicate 1000s of man hour tracking all of this. It's not going to happen. If you bought $200 hero package and never recieved your diamonds your most likely still waiting on the petition to be answered. If they still have petitions from day 1 unanswered how are they going to handle something of this scale.
I spend all day reading every thread and letting people know this is BETA.
People are posting think Cryptic is going to dedicate 1000s of man hour tracking all of this. It's not going to happen. If you bought $200 hero package and never recieved your diamonds your most likely still waiting on the petition to be answered. If they still have petitions from day 1 unanswered how are they going to handle something of this scale.
Because the petitions are being handled by a different team of people. Do you understand Game Company Teams?
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starkaosMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I just like to point out, all of you guys that are stating "Oh why punish me when I didn't do anything" Because it effects the ENTIRE game, not just you. Mainly the economy is going to end up like D3 and be ruined.
Also - The game is in OPEN beta, not a finished project.
The game is FREE.
You are not entitled to ANYTHING. The game is free, the only people who are entitled to something are the people who bought zen or founder.
Hate to break it to you, but this game is live. The devs have personally said no character wipes after open beta and betas always end with a character wipe. Stating the game is in open beta is just an excuse that players and devs use to justify all the problems with the game. Once lockboxes and other sources of spending zen was added like fusing enhancements, the game was live. If people thought this was open beta and their characters would be wiped, then they wouldn't have spent a ton of money on it.
We are entitled due to the time and money spent on our characters. However that entitlement is less than some people think. We are entitled to a functioning game or it is functioning ASAP and our characters, quest progress, and equipment will still be there when we log on every time. We are also entitled to exploits and bugs being fixed as soon as the devs can fix them and not when the devs get around to it. Finally, we are entitled to the MMO constantly being updated with new content for us to play. We are not entitled to the game being character wiped because of some problem that can be fixed through saner methods.
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dixa1Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 4Arc User
I am not accusing anyone here of anything, but am starting to get suspicious. Why are certain posters so against a server wipe unless they have lots of ill gotten gains to lose. There is simply no other way to be sure that all the exploited currency and items are found otherwise. It will take way too much time and will be next to impossible to sort all the legitimate trades from exploiters trading their loot to mule accounts.
You can't really hold it against an mmo for doing a wipe while game is still in beta, it is still in beta for a reason afterall, its not yet ready for live and to much bugs and exploits.
Oh and they dont? Well since you have such intimate knowledge with the Dev team you should be able to get a job with them and get this all sorted out then.
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dixa1Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 4Arc User
Show me the proof that everyone who has done this exploit is going through with this mass conspiracy theory of yours.
i can show you a stream and you've already seen the envy posts. that's seven players.
and that's all it takes in a a game like this to completely trash the economy. however if you think that it's just these two people you clearly have your head in the sand, are doing it yourself and think there is nothing wrong with it or are attempting to be a hipster troll.
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I am as well hoping for some kind of punishment and I am waiting anxiously for the full patch notes.
Well, if you're satisfied with gold, that's fine. But I think that most people would prefer to sell their excess gear on the AH for Astral Diamonds, given that ADs are used for far more -- & arguably, far more important -- things than gold.
I'm pretty sure that PW/Cryptic has options beyond merely "wipe it clear," & I'd strongly prefer they exercise those options before they go nuclear on the player base. I don't think that saying this makes me a "fantroll," nor do I think it even implies that I'm ignoring the arguments in favor of a wipe.
Let your life proceed by its own designs
Nothing to tell
Let the words be yours, I'm done with mine ...
4 million dps that sounds a lot, so he should have like 4 000 000 x 2700 damage done at the end of the instance if it takes 45 mins.. Now that's a lot.
Also - The game is in OPEN beta, not a finished project.
The game is FREE.
You are not entitled to ANYTHING. The game is free, the only people who are entitled to something are the people who bought zen or founder.
Yes. But the issue here is that the AD/AH market is borked. Regardless, the fact remains that getting AD from these items are not required to progress through the game. Hence disabling the AH will not break the game.
This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
I played through the single player stuff legitimately and enjoyed it, but I wouldn't enjoy having to do it again and would more likely just quit playing rather than be forced to go through it again.
Surely, though, there is a way of seeing ' Oh, dickhead@knobjockey sure has posted a lot of epics... he appears to be getting them all from this unguilded GF wearing a very specific item set... ban hammer' (wiping all further effect that player can have on the market).
Yes, damage has been done, prices have come down in alot of places, but it is not significant enough to have shifted the economy past an equilibrium it would otherwise have reached. Yet. If these illegitimate millionaires can be prevented from messing anything up further, all that's happened is a slight acceleration in the status of the economy.*
*Open to being corrected
They can't even answer petitions. I doubt they will put the manhours in for it.
WHAAA Different Teams do Different tasks? NO WAI!!
which is great and all but the servers sould be taken down now and the fix applied instead of in 11 more hours, when 11 more hours worth of gear has flooded the market and 11 more hours of ill-gotten diamonds have flooded teh economy.
That only matters if they dont do anything about the ill gotten diamonds.
Off topic why do people feel the need to hyphenate words that dont need it.
True, true.
the exploiters can use diff accounts created by differnt people or with diff emails to disseminate their diamonds through the auction house by posting low level greens for tens of thousands of diamonds.
i hyphenate to make grammar HAMSTER mad. helps me stay warm on cold nights.
Wow sounds like alot of these exploiters have quite the astral diamond underground started if they are doing this. I mean we are talking about Astral Diamond laundrying here
Which the devs all have logs for..
dude on his stream wsa just talking about making sure he spread his wealth before the patch at 7am as they repeatedly one shot the dracolich.....
pull your head out of the sand, chief.
And how do you keep the unfortunate innocent player who accidentally bought one of the green items from being caught in the crossfire?
This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
So one guy is doing this, wow what a massive failure of a game then
People are posting think Cryptic is going to dedicate 1000s of man hour tracking all of this. It's not going to happen. If you bought $200 hero package and never recieved your diamonds your most likely still waiting on the petition to be answered. If they still have petitions from day 1 unanswered how are they going to handle something of this scale.
Because the petitions are being handled by a different team of people. Do you understand Game Company Teams?
Hate to break it to you, but this game is live. The devs have personally said no character wipes after open beta and betas always end with a character wipe. Stating the game is in open beta is just an excuse that players and devs use to justify all the problems with the game. Once lockboxes and other sources of spending zen was added like fusing enhancements, the game was live. If people thought this was open beta and their characters would be wiped, then they wouldn't have spent a ton of money on it.
We are entitled due to the time and money spent on our characters. However that entitlement is less than some people think. We are entitled to a functioning game or it is functioning ASAP and our characters, quest progress, and equipment will still be there when we log on every time. We are also entitled to exploits and bugs being fixed as soon as the devs can fix them and not when the devs get around to it. Finally, we are entitled to the MMO constantly being updated with new content for us to play. We are not entitled to the game being character wiped because of some problem that can be fixed through saner methods.
lol. one guy. are you new to the internet or just the world in general?
Show me the proof that everyone who has done this exploit is going through with this mass conspiracy theory of yours.
You can't really hold it against an mmo for doing a wipe while game is still in beta, it is still in beta for a reason afterall, its not yet ready for live and to much bugs and exploits.
Those teams have to exist in the first place.
Oh and they dont? Well since you have such intimate knowledge with the Dev team you should be able to get a job with them and get this all sorted out then.
i can show you a stream and you've already seen the envy posts. that's seven players.
and that's all it takes in a a game like this to completely trash the economy. however if you think that it's just these two people you clearly have your head in the sand, are doing it yourself and think there is nothing wrong with it or are attempting to be a hipster troll.