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  • mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    taemekeg wrote: »
    Whats happened to the game has already destroyed the game. You fail to realize how economically damaging this has been to PW.


    Putting it a bit strongly. The are always exploits in MMOs and given enough time the economy recovers. Problem is there seems to be a new major exploit every couple of days here........
  • rictrasrictras Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 239 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    taemekeg wrote: »
    Whats happened to the game has already destroyed the game. You fail to realize how economically damaging this has been to PW.

    Explain it, then.
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  • zorpennzorpenn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 146 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    taemekeg wrote: »
    You fail to realize how economically damaging this has been to PW

    Enlighten us please, because me and probably many others just dont know.
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  • xenogias1xenogias1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dantos wrote: »
    Yes but things would still be different. The AD-Zen exchange rate could be different after a wipe, meaning you could have less zen or less AD than you previously had. I know alot of people who bought zen, and cashed in on the easy AD at the start, and will be reselling the AD for Zen when the rate lowers.

    People who got Nightmare mounts or the Phoenix companion would be screwed, since they might not be able to get it again using the same number of keys (I know my wife got the phoenix after 2 chests, a guildie the mount after 3)

    Not to mention if it was already stated that there would not be another wipe and they did anyway people could demand their money back for the zen they purchased. Doesn't matter if its right or wrong they would and if PWE didn't give it to them the **** storm from the PR would probably cost them twice as much in the long run. Bait and switch is a bad thing.
  • gohlargohlar Member Posts: 73
    edited May 2013
    taemekeg wrote: »
    Whats happened to the game has already destroyed the game. You fail to realize how economically damaging this has been to PW.

    Wiping everyone's characters would be FAR more damaging than you can seem to comprehend. They'd lose half their players overnight.

    Again, stop obsessing over everyone else. It's annoying and stupid. You must be new to mmos if you think the economy is destroyed.
  • silestesileste Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    taemekeg wrote: »
    Whats happened to the game has already destroyed the game. You fail to realize how economically damaging this has been to PW.

    If I was PW right now, I'd be packing in my pants about what to do. Ever wondered why the long drawn out silence even about responding to known issues? A simple, "We are aware of the issue and looking into it." would suffice right? But nothing, gee I wonder why.

    PW has a history of ruining games. Don't worry, it'll only get worse. I don't want to start all over again though. A wipe will make a lot of people rage and quit. And it won't just be the cheaters. I do agree that the amount of level 60s now is really ridiculous. Maybe the level cap will increase and content will be harder from then on? Who knows.
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  • munkey81munkey81 Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    taemekeg wrote: »
    Imho, so many players have used and abused so many ways to level and cheat their way through to max level and in my eyes, these people have already quit the game.

    There should be a full game wipe of all characters once all the issues are fixed and rectified.

    I honestly could give 2 ****s if people are exploiting to "level". Its pointless and it makes me /lol. Seeings how I casually played and got to 60 in 3 days. For all I care, they can give brand new accounts instant lvl 60's, it affects me in no way.

    When people are exploiting to get double the gear from Delve boxes is when I care. Other than that, I'm not sure why anyone cares at this point. It will eventually be fixed, and OMG! People will have to play normally and lvl to 60 in 3 days just like I did.
  • ryftlordryftlord Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    gohlar wrote: »
    Wiping everyone's characters would be FAR more damaging than you can seem to comprehend. They'd lose half their players overnight.

    Again, stop obsessing over everyone else. It's annoying and stupid. You must be new to mmos if you think the economy is destroyed.

    ^^ should be enough said right there
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  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    gohlar wrote: »
    Wiping everyone's characters would be FAR more damaging than you can seem to comprehend. They'd lose half their players overnight.
    That might be a drastic underestimation I'd be willing to guess that it'd be closer to 90%
  • wolfrat14wolfrat14 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 184 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    zorpenn wrote: »
    And how exactly it is affecting you if someone "cheated" his way to lvl60?
    Thank you. Who in the loving ____ of Jesus himself gives a flying ___ if someone else cheated to level his character?

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  • ryftlordryftlord Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I love how simply everyone is putting it xD
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  • terradraconisterradraconis Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    taemekeg wrote: »
    Imho, so many players have used and abused so many ways to level and cheat their way through to max level and in my eyes, these people have already quit the game.

    There should be a full game wipe of all characters once all the issues are fixed and rectified.

    Only if you personally pay me and each other player who hadn't cheated $100,000.00 each. Otherwise go suck a rock.

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  • lsyalsya Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    taemekeg wrote: »
    Imho, so many players have used and abused so many ways to level and cheat their way through to max level and in my eyes, these people have already quit the game.

    There should be a full game wipe of all characters once all the issues are fixed and rectified.

    No! Besides, if you feel those people have already quit the game, then why are you worried about it?

    How other people level has had no effect on my game play at all.
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  • taemekegtaemekeg Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 298 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    munkey81 wrote: »
    I honestly could give 2 ****s if people are exploiting to "level". Its pointless and it makes me /lol. Seeings how I casually played and got to 60 in 3 days. For all I care, they can give brand new accounts instant lvl 60's, it affects me in no way.

    When people are exploiting to get double the gear from Delve boxes is when I care. Other than that, I'm not sure why anyone cares at this point. It will eventually be fixed, and OMG! People will have to play normally and lvl to 60 in 3 days just like I did.


    You're right, sorry I care about the longevity of the game guys.

    This game will end up like the rest of the PW titles.
  • syfylissyfylis Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Time = money. You want wipe, pay people for time they lost. Another thread made by crying emo kid.
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  • taemekegtaemekeg Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 298 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    sileste wrote: »
    PW has a history of ruining games. Don't worry, it'll only get worse. I don't want to start all over again though. A wipe will make a lot of people rage and quit. And it won't just be the cheaters. I do agree that the amount of level 60s now is really ridiculous. Maybe the level cap will increase and content will be harder from then on? Who knows.

    We can only hope so, but alas, I am not holding my breath.

    this has quite possibly been the worst Open Beta where people have been allowed to keep thier characters I have ever seen. People abusing the exploits didn't even get rolled back.
  • rictrasrictras Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 239 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    taemekeg wrote: »
    You're right, sorry I care about the longevity of the game guys.

    This game will end up like the rest of the PW titles.

    Still waiting for that explanation.
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  • taemekegtaemekeg Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 298 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    syfylis wrote: »
    Time = money. You want wipe, pay people for time they lost. Another thread made by crying emo kid.

    That argument only floats with sub based mmo's........most people like yourself is likely playing for free atm.

    My question is, when you have to finally pay to play, will you still be here?
  • moonhammermoonhammer Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I didn't cheat and I am not even 60 yet but if they had to do a char wipe I would most prob just quit this game... just saying...
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    taemekeg wrote: »
    You're right, sorry I care about the longevity of the game guys.

    This game will end up like the rest of the PW titles.

    Yet your suggestion would instantly kill it. Seriously I know about 20 people playing this game, none of whom have exploited all of whom would leave if a wipe happened after they said it wouldn't. I have to believe this is fairly representative.
  • taemekegtaemekeg Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 298 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    rictras wrote: »
    Still waiting for that explanation.

    Clearly you have no idea how much *free AD* has been added in from these exploits and to top it off, free AD = free Zen which is less revenue for PW.
  • taemekegtaemekeg Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 298 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    How much money have you spent on the game? Be honest.

    I've spent 280 bux including the cost of the box.
  • gohlargohlar Member Posts: 73
    edited May 2013
    taemekeg wrote: »
    Clearly you have no idea how much *free AD* has been added in from these exploits and to top it off, free AD = free Zen which is less revenue for PW.

    Are you honestly dumb enough to think a character wipe would be good for the game?

    Really?
  • sirkimjongsirkimjong Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 97
    edited May 2013
    I didn't cheat at all, why should I be punished? I can't be arsed doing all 60 lvls again with GWF.
  • rictrasrictras Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 239 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    taemekeg wrote: »
    Clearly you have no idea how much *free AD* has been added in from these exploits and to top it off, free AD = free Zen which is less revenue for PW.

    Yeah, I figured you wouldn't be able to back up your claim.
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  • munkey81munkey81 Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    taemekeg wrote: »
    You're right, sorry I care about the longevity of the game guys.

    This game will end up like the rest of the PW titles.

    Still not sure how this is a make/break for a game, that has only been out 18 days. They already fixed the exp exploits in the Foundry, so whats your problem? It will all eventually get fixed. If you wanna ragequit cuz some <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> exploited to level 60 in 4 hours and it took you 18 days, who cares? The game is brand new. Imo the only forum they should have at all when a new game is released is a "Report Bug" thread. Anything else should be deleted. Sick of all the cry baby emo cutter threads of nerf this nerf that buff this buff that, wha wha wha I cant figure out how to heal or how to tank or how to beat a rogue in pvp so make me better posts. Its laughable, the only reason I even waste my time on this stupid forum is because I am work and cant actually play. I spend my time actually playing, and learning my class, .....maybe you trolls should follow my lead and do the same.

    P.S. If you arent having fun........./uninstall I for one and am having a blast with my cleric =P

    Cheers!
  • taemekegtaemekeg Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 298 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    gohlar wrote: »
    Are you honestly dumb enough to think a character wipe would be good for the game?

    Really?

    Its Open beta, anything can change and yes I do. Especially in the state it is currently in.

    Anyone who thinks this would not be a good thing honestly doesn't know how bad these exploits were. They weren't all just simply power leveling exploits as previously mentioned.
  • taemekegtaemekeg Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 298 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    rictras wrote: »
    Yeah, I figured you wouldn't be able to back up your claim.


    I did, they fixed the issue but the AD has already been injected into the game with no roll backs.

    Do you not realize you can trade AD for Zen?
  • taemekegtaemekeg Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 298 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    munkey81 wrote: »
    Still not sure how this is a make/break for a game, that has only been out 18 days. They already fixed the exp exploits in the Foundry, so whats your problem? It will all eventually get fixed. If you wanna ragequit cuz some <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> exploited to level 60 in 4 hours and it took you 18 days, who cares? The game is brand new. Imo the only forum they should have at all when a new game is released is a "Report Bug" thread. Anything else should be deleted. Sick of all the cry baby emo cutter threads of nerf this nerf that buff this buff that, wha wha wha I cant figure out how to heal or how to tank or how to beat a rogue in pvp so make me better posts. Its laughable, the only reason I even waste my time on this stupid forum is because I am work and cant actually play. I spend my time actually playing, and learning my class, .....maybe you trolls should follow my lead and do the same.

    P.S. If you arent having fun........./uninstall I for one and am having a blast with my cleric =P

    Cheers!

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  • gohlargohlar Member Posts: 73
    edited May 2013
    taemekeg wrote: »
    Its Open beta, anything can change and yes I do. Especially in the state it is currently in.

    Anyone who thinks this would not be a good thing honestly doesn't know how bad these exploits were. They weren't all just simply power leveling exploits as previously mentioned.

    Well you are completely and utterly wrong as person after person is trying to tell you. You're being incredibly over dramatic and lack a fundamental understanding of mmos it appears. A wipe would do far, far more harm than good and PW knows this which is why it will never happen.

    Stop trying to control everyone. Stop arguing your ridiculous point. You don't have a clue.

    Hope this helped lol.
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