And when they're offering us less than the value of a LTS for the cost of a LTS and calling it a $549 value I trust them even less. This used to be a great (flawed, but still capable of great things) company but after seeing what they did (or haven't done) with Champs and all the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> they've been throwing to the cash shop in exchange for ridiculous prices or gambling for the chance to maybe get it I just can't trust them anymore.
It's 2/3rd the post-launch cost of an LTS. It's 4/5th of what the pre-launch cost of CO and STO LTS were.
It's the lowest SALE price of an LTS, but it's not a sale.
Exactly. They gave us less than an LTS; they're also charging us less than an LTS. Nobody's required to buy it. If it doesn't sell well, they'll reduce the price or add features. I suspect it's going to sell quite well as-is.
I did, but also I had said previously if they offered it like they did for RaiderZ that I would buy it. I stand by my previous statement that it's a good model. After all the game is F2P, I realize there's a lot of debate on this but I don't have any problems putting some cash down for something I know i'm going to play and enjoy. I tend to think of it more in terms of being a kickstarter project model when they do this type of offer for a F2P game.
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harsiMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited January 2013
so i just buyd the 60$ pack ..... its 55€ for me on PayPal(dont know what calculation is behind it ...), well thats a bit much but i hope its worth it
Yeah $60 is fine. I've donated so much the last year to odd Kick-starter projects as said above with no promises. But I am a legacy Neverwinter Knights player from NWN1 & 2, so needless to say, I am over eager and will probably sacrifice the cost of a nice dinner out to get in game percs
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geddings12Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, SilverstarsPosts: 0Arc User
edited January 2013
i bought the heros of the north pack! yeah maybe a bit much but i think its kinda like the lifetime subscription option that they had for STO and Champions more or less (even though theres no subscription for Neverwinter) so ... i think it will be fun :-). had a little extra money left over this month so thought id go for it!
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shiaikaMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, SilverstarsPosts: 0Arc User
I bought the guardians pack. I supported POE and other games for early access so this is not a problem. I did already have a key thru PC Gamer but I would rather play right away like everyone else ponying up the money. Sixty I can do but not the 200.00
Too bad they didn't have a tier somewhere in between
For me it's like supporting Obsidian's Kickstarter again. XD
They'd need a higher tier for it to be like that for me.
Honestly, if the devs here had been more open in their communications, and I really really really felt confident that NW will be my new home for many months if not years, I'd drop the money no problem. Right now though, I have too many unanswered questions, and other potential new home games (EQ Next) coming out in the future.
Exactly. They gave us less than an LTS; they're also charging us less than an LTS. Nobody's required to buy it. If it doesn't sell well, they'll reduce the price or add features. I suspect it's going to sell quite well as-is.
Its near the pre-launch cost of a CO or STO LTS and the same cost of a LTS in other games for far less than what a LTS offers, but being marketed as having a significantly higher value (supposedly "worth" $549). We might not be "required" to buy it but then again we're not required to buy a LTS either (in games that have/offer them) and whether we're required to buy them or not has no bearing on discussions about their value. The point still remains that they've offering very little for a high cost compared to similar products while claiming that its "worth" an even higher cost.
umm maybe the 500$ value has a lot to do with the 750,000 astral diamonds? what is astral diamond?
I'm not sure, but I THINK its the equivalent to Questionite in CO or Dilithium in STO, which is a special in-game currency which can be used to buy certain items (not normally available by any other means) in a special in-game store, and can also be traded with other players for z-points (which can normally be bought only with real money). The exchange rates are determined by players and can vary widely. I haven't logged into either game in a while (and haven't checked the Q/D Exchange in even longer) but I think it was around 250 D/ per z-point in STO last I checked.
I'm not sure, but I THINK its the equivalent to Questionite in CO or Dilithium in STO, which is a special in-game currency which can be used to buy certain items (not normally available by any other means) in a special in-game store, and can also be traded with other players for z-points (which can normally be bought only with real money). The exchange rates are determined by players and can vary widely. I haven't logged into either game in a while (and haven't checked the Q/D Exchange in even longer) but I think it was around 250 D/ per z-point in STO last I checked.
I don't know yet. I first want to see what, if any, races/classes will be in the store at launch. Because I would certainly rather save my money for exactly what I want on a modular basis (gnomes, eladrin, bards) rather than spend it on a pack I'd really only appreciate a fraction of.
It's very common in the sense that it's featured in small quantities as a reward for many, many things, but perhaps rare in the sense that it can't really be accumulated very quickly. It's been a while since I've last played STO, but I remember mainly earning it quite casually through duty officer assignments and never having a shortage for what I wanted to buy with it (which was mainly high-level crafting materials).
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utahsaintMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 12Arc User
edited January 2013
When a simple question is answered by devs or "OFFICIAL" post, Will the Heroes pack include the items from the lower pack? IF not question #2, Will all the items stack if you buy other packs (8 character slots, 870k astral diamonds if you were to be "that" guy that has to have everything and buys all packs.)
When a simple question is answered by devs or "OFFICIAL" post, Will the Heroes pack include the items from the lower pack? IF not question #2, Will all the items stack if you buy other packs (8 character slots, 870k astral diamonds if you were to be "that" guy that has to have everything and buys all packs.)
1. No, yu get what you purchased from that exact pack
This was answered
Hero pack = 1 time Account wide purchase only
Guardian pack = 1 time Account wide purchase only
Adventures pack = multiple per character purchases allowed.
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When a simple question is answered by devs or "OFFICIAL" post, Will the Heroes pack include the items from the lower pack? IF not question #2, Will all the items stack if you buy other packs (8 character slots, 870k astral diamonds if you were to be "that" guy that has to have everything and buys all packs.)
Higher packs will not include lower packs, but some items are duplicated in the different packs.
The duplicated items will stack (not sure if all).
drwarpeffectMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 71Arc User
edited January 2013
I think that prices like the $200 top pack confuse the whole "Free-to-Play" model that this game is supposed to be following. Just because other games have had founder's packs does not change this fact. The industry seems to be floundering around trying to find a money-making alternative to the subscription model that used to be the norm. The recent turn to F2P for Secret World and SWTOR and the large number of refunds for founders' pack purchases for MWO and the controversy over their sale of hero mechs that have some more benefits over founders' mechs are symptoms of this confusion. I do not have any problem with F2P games offering choices to make money, but it should not devolve into free to be gimped or pay to win or, even worse, provide less value than what is charged. xxxx I am particularly concerned that only the $200 pack grants access to the Foundry. Is the Foundry going to be a pay-only feature? if not, why is such access included in the high dollar pack? xxxx (I found answer in another thread. Hero Pack means you can access foundry at lvl 1 instead of waiting to level 15).
Guardian pack for moi, spouse would not consider me a Hero for $200 spent on a game!
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It's very common in the sense that it's featured in small quantities as a reward for many, many things, but perhaps rare in the sense that it can't really be accumulated very quickly. It's been a while since I've last played STO, but I remember mainly earning it quite casually through duty officer assignments and never having a shortage for what I wanted to buy with it (which was mainly high-level crafting materials).
For casual doffing, where you seek out the highest-dil missions in whatever sector you're in but don't fly around to multiple sectors seeking out the highest ones in each sector, you can make 1,500 to 2,000 a day per character. If you fly around all over the place and only do the very highest ones, you can hit the cap (8,000 for regular players, 9,000 for lifetimers) per character per day, but I would be hard pressed to think of a more boring or time-consuming way to earn dil. You can easily hit the cap in far less time invested doing far more interesting things, with the 1,500-2,000 incidental doffing dil thrown in.
I'm not even counting the 2,000 dil turn-in mission for contraband in that number; if you throw it in, it's a 48 hour cooldown I believe.
I'm only talking about doffing here; if you do other things that earn dil, you can spend less time and do far more interesting things. For instance, you can do Foundry missions and earn 1,920 per hour. There are several dailies that can net you 480-1,440 apiece; enough that you could do a different mix of them every day to reach your cap, or just pick the ones you enjoy the most and do them over and over, if you like that kind of gameplay.
Bought mine this afternoon. Can't wait to start testing!
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brewsterxMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 26Arc User
edited January 2013
I have an odd question. I created my account quite a while ago, at least a couple of months. Why is it that I can't post new threads? That's my first question. To answer the question in this thread, no. I don't know enough about this game to justify spending money on it. In fact, I know next to nothing about this game. There's very little and hardly any relevant information that's been released concerning this game, classes, quests and the like for me to spend money on.
I do hope the game is good, I want it to be good, but after spending the last couple of months combing through the forums and watching every video available, I still don't know much of anything about the game. Cryptic, you guys need to get more information out.
Too many unanswered questions. What will be in the store for purchase? Companions, mounts, character slots and equipment etc, we don't really know yet or at least I haven’t found that information. What kind of exchange rate a dollar will get per game (store) currency. How many character slots and other pay items are available during actual play do you start with can acquire doing game play? The founder’s packs are in addition to purchasing the game so if you purchase the $200 pack you also will be shelling out another $50-60 dollars w/tax when the game first hits the store. They would be more successful selling me a collector’s edition game box with a few perks than what they are doing with the founder’s packs.
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It's 2/3rd the post-launch cost of an LTS. It's 4/5th of what the pre-launch cost of CO and STO LTS were.
It's the lowest SALE price of an LTS, but it's not a sale.
Or an LTS.
Exactly. They gave us less than an LTS; they're also charging us less than an LTS. Nobody's required to buy it. If it doesn't sell well, they'll reduce the price or add features. I suspect it's going to sell quite well as-is.
Too bad they didn't have a tier somewhere in between
They'd need a higher tier for it to be like that for me.
Honestly, if the devs here had been more open in their communications, and I really really really felt confident that NW will be my new home for many months if not years, I'd drop the money no problem. Right now though, I have too many unanswered questions, and other potential new home games (EQ Next) coming out in the future.
Its near the pre-launch cost of a CO or STO LTS and the same cost of a LTS in other games for far less than what a LTS offers, but being marketed as having a significantly higher value (supposedly "worth" $549). We might not be "required" to buy it but then again we're not required to buy a LTS either (in games that have/offer them) and whether we're required to buy them or not has no bearing on discussions about their value. The point still remains that they've offering very little for a high cost compared to similar products while claiming that its "worth" an even higher cost.
I'm not sure, but I THINK its the equivalent to Questionite in CO or Dilithium in STO, which is a special in-game currency which can be used to buy certain items (not normally available by any other means) in a special in-game store, and can also be traded with other players for z-points (which can normally be bought only with real money). The exchange rates are determined by players and can vary widely. I haven't logged into either game in a while (and haven't checked the Q/D Exchange in even longer) but I think it was around 250 D/ per z-point in STO last I checked.
How common is it to find dilithium?
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It's very common in the sense that it's featured in small quantities as a reward for many, many things, but perhaps rare in the sense that it can't really be accumulated very quickly. It's been a while since I've last played STO, but I remember mainly earning it quite casually through duty officer assignments and never having a shortage for what I wanted to buy with it (which was mainly high-level crafting materials).
1. No, yu get what you purchased from that exact pack
This was answered
Hero pack = 1 time Account wide purchase only
Guardian pack = 1 time Account wide purchase only
Adventures pack = multiple per character purchases allowed.
Registered: Oct/2009 , LTS : Feb/2011
Fleets: Warriors of the Phoenix, Kirian Industries[/SIGPIC]
Three years and still no Captain Klaa hair...
Higher packs will not include lower packs, but some items are duplicated in the different packs.
The duplicated items will stack (not sure if all).
Official answer:
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?31781-Founder-s-Pack-Report-Purchase-Issues-Here!&p=539261&viewfull=1#post539261
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For casual doffing, where you seek out the highest-dil missions in whatever sector you're in but don't fly around to multiple sectors seeking out the highest ones in each sector, you can make 1,500 to 2,000 a day per character. If you fly around all over the place and only do the very highest ones, you can hit the cap (8,000 for regular players, 9,000 for lifetimers) per character per day, but I would be hard pressed to think of a more boring or time-consuming way to earn dil. You can easily hit the cap in far less time invested doing far more interesting things, with the 1,500-2,000 incidental doffing dil thrown in.
I'm not even counting the 2,000 dil turn-in mission for contraband in that number; if you throw it in, it's a 48 hour cooldown I believe.
I'm only talking about doffing here; if you do other things that earn dil, you can spend less time and do far more interesting things. For instance, you can do Foundry missions and earn 1,920 per hour. There are several dailies that can net you 480-1,440 apiece; enough that you could do a different mix of them every day to reach your cap, or just pick the ones you enjoy the most and do them over and over, if you like that kind of gameplay.
I do hope the game is good, I want it to be good, but after spending the last couple of months combing through the forums and watching every video available, I still don't know much of anything about the game. Cryptic, you guys need to get more information out.