Thanks @bungabunga#5136 I had hope that maybe they did choose their words wisely. This is just sad. Very, very sad. I haven't been too impressed with mod 16 except for the visuals of the undermountain zones. I'm also cursed by RNG and have yet to receive either of my Alabaster weapons. It's great to know they like to string us along on a wild goose chase...Not sure I will believe anything out of their mouths anymore.
Well well, and here some of us were reading all sorts of lore and examining the me maps and the undermountain zones and it turns out not being a puzzle anyways. And the soul puppet thing only started popping after today's patch.
Btw. Why is it that me and my friends have run tons of me's with 3 runes and 2 runes and 1 runes and never had an essence drop? We got Alabaster weapons and every purple drop under the sun but no essences.
GG devs.
ps. anyone knows if you need to run 3 rune runs to get essences and the soul puppet?
Well well, and here some of us were reading all sorts of lore and examining the me maps and the undermountain zones and it turns out not being a puzzle anyways. And the soul puppet thing only started popping after today's patch.
Btw. Why is it that me and my friends have run tons of me's with 3 runes and 2 runes and 1 runes and never had an essence drop? We got Alabaster weapons and every purple drop under the sun but no essences.
GG devs.
i think you have to run or finish LOMM. btw GJ devs for stealth fixing this. OMEGALUL.
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arazith07Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,719Arc User
Well well, and here some of us were reading all sorts of lore and examining the me maps and the undermountain zones and it turns out not being a puzzle anyways. And the soul puppet thing only started popping after today's patch.
Btw. Why is it that me and my friends have run tons of me's with 3 runes and 2 runes and 1 runes and never had an essence drop? We got Alabaster weapons and every purple drop under the sun but no essences.
GG devs.
ps. anyone knows if you need to run 3 rune runs to get essences and the soul puppet?
Well well, and here some of us were reading all sorts of lore and examining the me maps and the undermountain zones and it turns out not being a puzzle anyways. And the soul puppet thing only started popping after today's patch.
Btw. Why is it that me and my friends have run tons of me's with 3 runes and 2 runes and 1 runes and never had an essence drop? We got Alabaster weapons and every purple drop under the sun but no essences.
GG devs.
ps. anyone knows if you need to run 3 rune runs to get essences and the soul puppet?
1 rune is enough for both.
Ah, tyvm for the info. Do you know if we need to do LOMM as well to get essence drops? Me and my friends are pretty good geared now but we are not at IL 20K so we can't do LOMM.
Well well, and here some of us were reading all sorts of lore and examining the me maps and the undermountain zones and it turns out not being a puzzle anyways. And the soul puppet thing only started popping after today's patch.
Btw. Why is it that me and my friends have run tons of me's with 3 runes and 2 runes and 1 runes and never had an essence drop? We got Alabaster weapons and every purple drop under the sun but no essences.
GG devs.
ps. anyone knows if you need to run 3 rune runs to get essences and the soul puppet?
1 rune is enough for both.
Ah, tyvm for the info. Do you know if we need to do LOMM as well to get essence drops? Me and my friends are pretty good geared now but we are not at IL 20K so we can't do LOMM.
I was getting essence drops before I completed LoMM for the first time, but they did first drop when LoMM was unlocked for everyone. The essences are a rarer drop, I've gotten 9 total since the 9th. I have the quest to complete the ruined armor unfinished as well.
Do you know if we need to do LOMM as well to get essence drops? Me and my friends are pretty good geared now but we are not at IL 20K so we can't do LOMM.
I've gotten essences before i completed LoMM for the first time. You only need to enter it. You can probably enter it alone with private queue and leave immediately.
> @ailliver#7283 said: > Ever consider maybe they felt bad for us and just made it easier?
OMEGALOL. 10/10
They never do that, it was meant to be like this, was delayed intentionally and they be liars. Which admin just made this account to try defend themselves? Show yourself!
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Remember when they said 'you are close'
Remember when they said 'it's a puzzle/Easter egg'
Tried the longing boss, but it seems impossible. As soon as you get him to 20-25% hp, he heals to full, and as far as I could tell, when he raised his arms to heal, he was immune to dmg. Some other people defeated him by luring him off a ledge, but that's ECC level cheese right there. As it is, it's cheese from the devs, dude is immune to dmg unless you are right next to him in the blue, then once you get him to 20% or 25%, he just heals to full hp, and it takes a long time to get him down that low too. He'll heal to full over and over again as many times as you drop him down to 20-25%. Someone said they beat longing twice legitly, but I really don't believe it unless they cheesed their way through like the other group did (who was at least honest).
The blue wolf one was doable, tough, but doable. I have heard other people say one of the others is also impossible.
Not sure how many more straws this camel can take with these devs, I already just do 3x ME's a day and log off, and them lying to us like this, making stupid boss fights, and releasing content that's got way too many bugs to be considered production ready, man, HAMSTER this my brain is telling me, but I still have a thin thread of hope.
> Ever consider maybe they felt bad for us and just made it easier?
OMEGALOL.
10/10
They never do that, it was meant to be like this, was delayed intentionally and they be liars.
Which admin just made this account to try defend themselves? Show yourself!
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Remember when they said 'you are close'
Remember when they said 'it's a puzzle/Easter egg'
Not a dev. Just an optimistic personality who tries to see the best in a situation.
If you read collections and tooltips, the current method for obtaining the Watcher set aligns perfectly. They are in ME's, they come from summoning "ancient" monsters with essence, and ME's are the place to quench the thirst to fight.
If you take off your rose colored glasses, you'll see that the devs lied to Julia @nitocris83 , and in turn she lied to us (I'd give her the benefit of the doubt in this case). And then @kreatyve chimed in and said it was a puzzle, and unless he works with the devs, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have any clue or insight into the topic and really shouldn't have said anything to begin with.
To make the matter worse, the lie was continued in the stream on the 21st where the devs told Julia that it was tested in house and was obtainable, when in fact it wasn't.
All they had to do from the beginning, when Julia asked them about this issue, was say it hadn't been released to live yet, most people would have understood, and it would have saved many people lots of time. I myself easily spent 20-30 hours dedicated to nothing other than looking for this set because there wasn't anything else to do, it was the only thing left to accomplish before I was done with m16, and that whole time, it was not in the game yet.
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tassedethe13Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 806Arc User
> @quickfoot#7851 said: > ... since pvp has gone to <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
well it is about time pvp gets ruined by pve instead of the inverse which killed a couple of classes!!!!
99 lines of code on the wall, 99 lines of code, add one line, compile it again....... 113 lines on code on the wall 113 lines of code on the wall, 113 lines of code, rewrite one line, compile it again....... Wait For It
well it is about time pvp gets ruined by pve instead of the inverse which killed a couple of classes!!!!
It's not really that. It's more like, they left the dog out back and forgot to feed it for 6+ mods and it eventually died not being able to sustain itself on rodents, grasshoppers, and rain water. Tbh, pvp is actually a little better, where they screwed up was making people too tanky and encounter power cool downs too damn long, no one dies any more, which is boring and therefor really really bad. But they didn't just screw over PVP (which wasn't totally this mod as I was saying), but they totally screwed the pooch on PVE, which resulted in a lot of players leaving, and some of them played PVP which resulted in the PVP population finally really dying out.
People love to blame PVP for nerfs in PVE, like when they nerfed TR's power looping, but honestly, that was a PVE issue, not PVP. They nerfed stealth, in PVP, not in PVE. Etc, etc... For the most part it's people scapegoating because their favored class got a nerf, which it probably needed for PVE balance anyways.
Essence drops are an issue. Can someone confirm that there is a chance to obtain them when running MEs solo with one rune? Or does this actually require a party composition?
You can definitely get them solo with 1 rune. got one today that way. i think others might be right though and you have to at least enter LOMM. just queue privately and leave.
Yeah, I love "easter eggs" that are just some RNG layers... I ran my 3 ME yesterday with a group, in the 9 boss we never had a soul to summon the special encounter. And we all had some essences in our inventory ready to be given. On top of that the drops seems to be random too, and can be for other classes than yours. So well, I'm not against grind of some sort, but don't call that an Easter Egg, it's not.
BTW, good job on lying to us about that subject. In this quite uncomfortable period following the M16 disaster, it was sure something do to. Definitely better than saying "Hey folks this is just not implemented yet, wait for a week or two".
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gormenghast1Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 88Arc User
Can't wait for the next driftwood stream
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tassedethe13Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 806Arc User
Guys 1st you need have some1 in party who have Essence in his inventory (People have reported that u need enter Lair of Made mage once and quit so Essence starts to drop from ME end chest). Not all person just the one with Essence can interact with Wraith (He drops random after you kill zone boss. so there are are chance at 3 boss per ME). I feel number of rune attune dont matter nor the type of rune used. Also there is no limit on those wraith we got them 2nd time but is total random. Daily quest from Obaya is also not required by everyone you can just tag along with someone having that quest.
Party is most important to kill these boss as they are way too tough for average gear ppl. There is mechanics involved on most boss that you need figure out to defeat him. Essence of sorrow spawn a wolf that looks easiest to kill atm.
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demonmongerMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,350Arc User
> @pariswinters#7118 said: > i feel like they outlined the plan for maybe 2 years, coded this mod up half finished in less than a week, did a little "closed beta", made a few tweaks, --> open beta, -->minor adjusting --> Live Beta > > and now they are actively coding the other half of the module and giving it to us 1 patch at a time, with 3 patches in between to fix all the bugs the new build introduced..... smiling and pretending everything is fine....all the way to the bank > > my only question is......how can i get a job working at cryptic studios?
You need to know how to count to 9 and most of the alphabet. A bit of qbasic, c, c++, vb6+, haskell, python, cobol,pascal.. a few others. Plus you need to know how to add a secret code to break most of the code but still leave it functional for at least 2 modules to come.
More than anything you need to know how to make us believe you are busy doing something, plus working to make the players happy... when really you are laughing at our pain.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I hate paying taxes! Why must I pay thousands of dollars in taxes when everything I buy is taxed anyways!
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Btw. Why is it that me and my friends have run tons of me's with 3 runes and 2 runes and 1 runes and never had an essence drop?
We got Alabaster weapons and every purple drop under the sun but no essences.
GG devs.
ps. anyone knows if you need to run 3 rune runs to get essences and the soul puppet?
> Ever consider maybe they felt bad for us and just made it easier?
OMEGALOL.
10/10
They never do that, it was meant to be like this, was delayed intentionally and they be liars.
Which admin just made this account to try defend themselves? Show yourself!
__________
Remember when they said 'you are close'
Remember when they said 'it's a puzzle/Easter egg'
The blue wolf one was doable, tough, but doable. I have heard other people say one of the others is also impossible.
Not sure how many more straws this camel can take with these devs, I already just do 3x ME's a day and log off, and them lying to us like this, making stupid boss fights, and releasing content that's got way too many bugs to be considered production ready, man, HAMSTER this my brain is telling me, but I still have a thin thread of hope.
Not a dev. Just an optimistic personality who tries to see the best in a situation.
If you take off your rose colored glasses, you'll see that the devs lied to Julia @nitocris83 , and in turn she lied to us (I'd give her the benefit of the doubt in this case). And then @kreatyve chimed in and said it was a puzzle, and unless he works with the devs, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have any clue or insight into the topic and really shouldn't have said anything to begin with.
To make the matter worse, the lie was continued in the stream on the 21st where the devs told Julia that it was tested in house and was obtainable, when in fact it wasn't.
All they had to do from the beginning, when Julia asked them about this issue, was say it hadn't been released to live yet, most people would have understood, and it would have saved many people lots of time. I myself easily spent 20-30 hours dedicated to nothing other than looking for this set because there wasn't anything else to do, it was the only thing left to accomplish before I was done with m16, and that whole time, it was not in the game yet.
21/05/2019 Thomas Foss
> ... since pvp has gone to <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
well it is about time pvp gets ruined by pve instead of the inverse which killed a couple of classes!!!!
113 lines of code on the wall, 113 lines of code, rewrite one line, compile it again.......
Wait For It
People love to blame PVP for nerfs in PVE, like when they nerfed TR's power looping, but honestly, that was a PVE issue, not PVP. They nerfed stealth, in PVP, not in PVE. Etc, etc... For the most part it's people scapegoating because their favored class got a nerf, which it probably needed for PVE balance anyways.
I ran my 3 ME yesterday with a group, in the 9 boss we never had a soul to summon the special encounter. And we all had some essences in our inventory ready to be given.
On top of that the drops seems to be random too, and can be for other classes than yours.
So well, I'm not against grind of some sort, but don't call that an Easter Egg, it's not.
BTW, good job on lying to us about that subject. In this quite uncomfortable period following the M16 disaster, it was sure something do to. Definitely better than saying "Hey folks this is just not implemented yet, wait for a week or two".
@nitocris83 lied when she said they were in game and obtainable and that one of them had obtained them on live.
Obsidian Oath - Warlock
A whole lot of other Obsidian toons as well.
Party is most important to kill these boss as they are way too tough for average gear ppl. There is mechanics involved on most boss that you need figure out to defeat him. Essence of sorrow spawn a wolf that looks easiest to kill atm.
> i feel like they outlined the plan for maybe 2 years, coded this mod up half finished in less than a week, did a little "closed beta", made a few tweaks, --> open beta, -->minor adjusting --> Live Beta
>
> and now they are actively coding the other half of the module and giving it to us 1 patch at a time, with 3 patches in between to fix all the bugs the new build introduced..... smiling and pretending everything is fine....all the way to the bank
>
> my only question is......how can i get a job working at cryptic studios?
You need to know how to count to 9 and most of the alphabet. A bit of qbasic, c, c++, vb6+, haskell, python, cobol,pascal.. a few others.
Plus you need to know how to add a secret code to break most of the code but still leave it functional for at least 2 modules to come.
More than anything you need to know how to make us believe you are busy doing something, plus working to make the players happy... when really you are laughing at our pain.