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  • iambryan014#4373 iambryan014 Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    So guys.,i have been having fun with the build and all. But want to clarify as for the best weapon enchant for an HB fury. Vorpal would mean you have a higher crit on all hits inc At wills. While dread would give you 25 more severity but only to your remaining 2 encounters as POP is non crit. Why is dread still on top of vorpal when it comes to weapon enchant suggestions?
  • rilynn1rilynn1 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    potential NOOB post, PS4 vs. PC, does the ps4 have a different set of powers than the PC?
    I cant seem to find PoP and when i review the Neverwinter wiki, it should be a lvl 30 encounter and i only have Curse Bite, Soul Scorch and Borrowed Time as lvl30 options.
    Since it does seem to be a difference, assuming i havent fallen and split my head open, does anyone have an updated PS4 build?
    I am currently a Damnation build
  • nyarlathotep#5346 nyarlathotep Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    rilynn1 said:

    potential NOOB post, PS4 vs. PC, does the ps4 have a different set of powers than the PC?
    I cant seem to find PoP and when i review the Neverwinter wiki, it should be a lvl 30 encounter and i only have Curse Bite, Soul Scorch and Borrowed Time as lvl30 options.
    Since it does seem to be a difference, assuming i havent fallen and split my head open, does anyone have an updated PS4 build?
    I am currently a Damnation build

    PoP is Hellbringer prestige
  • rilynn1rilynn1 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited October 2016

    rilynn1 said:

    potential NOOB post, PS4 vs. PC, does the ps4 have a different set of powers than the PC?
    I cant seem to find PoP and when i review the Neverwinter wiki, it should be a lvl 30 encounter and i only have Curse Bite, Soul Scorch and Borrowed Time as lvl30 options.
    Since it does seem to be a difference, assuming i havent fallen and split my head open, does anyone have an updated PS4 build?
    I am currently a Damnation build

    PoP is Hellbringer prestige

    rilynn1 said:

    potential NOOB post, PS4 vs. PC, does the ps4 have a different set of powers than the PC?
    I cant seem to find PoP and when i review the Neverwinter wiki, it should be a lvl 30 encounter and i only have Curse Bite, Soul Scorch and Borrowed Time as lvl30 options.
    Since it does seem to be a difference, assuming i havent fallen and split my head open, does anyone have an updated PS4 build?
    I am currently a Damnation build

    PoP is Hellbringer prestige
    Thanks much!
    Since im still relatively new to the game and have a very basic gear makeup, will it make a huge difference going fom current Soulbinder build to the Hellbringer build?
    I am just starting epic dungeon's now.

  • wolfsinzwolfsinz Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    So since respec there has been lots of talk about PoP and owl cub companion.....now for those HB such as myself who don't have 6mill ad lying around, second best? Fire Archon perhaps?
  • fernuufernuu Member Posts: 453 Arc User
    Aim for Cricital Severity and Damage.

    My best lineup before I heard of Owlbear was
    Active one (Sellsword here)
    Erinyes of Belial
    Cambion Magus
    Air Archon
    Siege Master
    https://youtube.com/c/FernuStormborn

    Mod 10:
    [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Killing Flames deals 16636893 (1009292) Fire Damage to Ethraniev Marrowslake.

    Mod 9:
    [Combat (Self)] Your Murderous Flames deals 376274433 (18876929) Fire Damage to Red Tiamat Head.
  • wolfsinzwolfsinz Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    As always, thanks Fernuu.
  • terrasight#2000 terrasight Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    Question: After all we don't know how the Devs decide or whatever.

    What you guys suggest to replace TC with if the change comes live?
  • tom#6998 tom Member Posts: 952 Arc User
    TC is still the only viable daily imo thats how bad the rest is
  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    FYI: Owlbear gets fixed as of Nov 8th...

    "General

    Effects that activate when non-critical damage is dealt, such as the Owlbear Cub's Active Companion Bonus, now only activate once per power use."
    Post edited by kolatmaster on
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  • fernuufernuu Member Posts: 453 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    why there is no such option as delete post? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
    Post edited by fernuu on
    https://youtube.com/c/FernuStormborn

    Mod 10:
    [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Killing Flames deals 16636893 (1009292) Fire Damage to Ethraniev Marrowslake.

    Mod 9:
    [Combat (Self)] Your Murderous Flames deals 376274433 (18876929) Fire Damage to Red Tiamat Head.
  • protagonist#9334 protagonist Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    So owlbear no longer procs off of PoP?
  • fernuufernuu Member Posts: 453 Arc User
    It does on PTS. Same with Dreadtheft
    https://youtube.com/c/FernuStormborn

    Mod 10:
    [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Killing Flames deals 16636893 (1009292) Fire Damage to Ethraniev Marrowslake.

    Mod 9:
    [Combat (Self)] Your Murderous Flames deals 376274433 (18876929) Fire Damage to Red Tiamat Head.
  • nisckisnisckis Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 655 Arc User
    I have asked in the patch notes about the owlbear still activating many times on some skills. Do not know if the will reply or not :/
  • terrasight#2000 terrasight Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    And again it's me...^^

    Question: AtM I run sudden brut/precision +4, and my companion (rank 11 stones) runs 2x brut +4. So...would it be better for damage to take a rising precision/power (i've a +4) for me and give the sudden precision to the companion?

    Thanks a lot :)

    Edit: Ok I've done it, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but it was a good move. Rising Power +4 for me in exchange for sudden precision for my companion. Statswise i don't know why I'm not done it earlier... near 100% crit...holy...oO
    Post edited by terrasight#2000 on
  • Cannot stand Hellbringer fury, I tried so hard to like it.
    Here's hoping in future mods they give soulbinder some love.
  • ppwojtekppwojtek Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    Do you guys like how TT now work too?

  • fernuufernuu Member Posts: 453 Arc User

    Cannot stand Hellbringer fury, I tried so hard to like it.
    Here's hoping in future mods they give soulbinder some love.

    Looks like you're wish was granted. SB is quite better now.
    ppwojtek said:

    Do you guys like how TT now work too?

    We have no other option than learn and adapt. Devs gave HAMSTER about insights anyway.
    https://youtube.com/c/FernuStormborn

    Mod 10:
    [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Killing Flames deals 16636893 (1009292) Fire Damage to Ethraniev Marrowslake.

    Mod 9:
    [Combat (Self)] Your Murderous Flames deals 376274433 (18876929) Fire Damage to Red Tiamat Head.
  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
    We are currently working on a update, and it looks like for pure DPS, that SB is better...

    However, for party utility/buff, HB is 100% still viable with Pillar of Power/Dark Revelry.

    :)
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  • ppwojtekppwojtek Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    That's some good news. When i played with my old SB build i felt that i have more control about what im doing. >:)
  • so which paragon path has the most solo PvE-friendly boon and weekly-collecting options?​​
  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User

    so which paragon path has the most solo PvE-friendly boon and weekly-collecting options?​​

    If you are speaking about low/mid Item Level, like 2k-3k or so and are speaking about new content, I'd say HB Fury is the way to go. Though I love PoP for add clearing and it offers the best party utility between that and Dark Revelry.

    However, I believe that SB Fury is the best for pure end game/high Item Level.... by that I mean close to 4k or above. Which is the pure DPS build that Fernuu and I are currently working on. :)
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  • i'm more concerned with just being able to get through things like biggrin's tomb and fighting baphomet with little issue more than dealing with anything endgame - those two weeklies are the ones that still give me some issue on my CW, and it's farther along than my warlock, both boon and gear-wise, so i just want to make sure i narrow the gap as much as possible by picking the right paragon and such when i get around to him again and use the free respec i (hopefully) got​​
  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User

    i'm more concerned with just being able to get through things like biggrin's tomb and fighting baphomet with little issue more than dealing with anything endgame - those two weeklies are the ones that still give me some issue on my CW, and it's farther along than my warlock, both boon and gear-wise, so i just want to make sure i narrow the gap as much as possible by picking the right paragon and such when i get around to him again and use the free respec i (hopefully) got​​

    Shoot me an add in game: @MakeCocktailsNotWar

    Hopefully this week we can take a look and see whats up, because SB has better survivability then HB overall with Borrowed Time. Though I feel HB has merit for clearing the areas you mentioned. :)

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  • tutelo#5367 tutelo Member Posts: 82 Arc User
    So we literally came back full circle to how things were before the class balance started - SB as the only viable path. Meanwhile, HB once again becomes an obsolete/unviable path for dps - a niche build for those that refuse to go SB.
  • diloul31diloul31 Member Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    with hb fury, i confirm you can solo drake pen, bigrim and co easily with a 2500gs.

    I'll do some test with my 2800gs warlock with SB fury but under 3k, i'm not sure of reusut for survavibilty.

    I think hb fury is great for solo content and survability overall.

    Note aside, i have a noob question concerning rotation...
    It's probably gona make laught some of you but i never really used fiery bolt before yesterday xD...
    I was using dread theft instead, the difference in dps is just insane in adds clearing in CN for example.

    Because i don't know if the numbers are broken but sometimes it's show ridiculously low dps numbers with fiery bolt, but final score tell a different story...
    ( same with gate and killing flames, sometimes insane numbers sometimes, very low)

    Would you still recomand using dreadtheft for debuff on boss or fiery bolt or killing flames ? ( I feel like while you debuff, the party benefit but not yourself with dreadtheft ).
  • onewingedmenace#5432 onewingedmenace Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    fernuu said:

    Cannot stand Hellbringer fury, I tried so hard to like it.
    Here's hoping in future mods they give soulbinder some love.

    Looks like you're wish was granted. SB is quite better now.

    Nah, I may not like it but I don't get my kicks out of ruining other people's fun.

  • rottersrotters Member Posts: 214 Arc User
    very intrigued by new SB build...Id like to have a play with it.


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  • tutelo#5367 tutelo Member Posts: 82 Arc User
    Fernuu, can you post the ACT logs of your tests between HB fury and SB fury, for comparisons? Just to see gap between HB vs SB
  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
    rotters said:

    very intrigued by new SB build...Id like to have a play with it.

    Hope to have something up this coming weekend, or possibly sooner depending on time/work/etc. :)

    Also I wanted to give a shout out to Natsu for chatting with Fernuu and helping review the SB Fury line, way to rock bro!




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