good job; now even the single target of my cw 12k is better than the gwf.
you can then begin to fix ALL the problems mentioned in the forum?
bf+critical damage? steel blitz? iv nerfs?unstoppable?
more than a month and all you could with all his "care" was killing the gwf in every aspect of this game. I have the right to make wrong assumptions about preview buffs. you program this <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
ps:I do not need to mention that, aoe or not, this class feature of cw is far superior to steelblitz.
good job; now even the single target of my cw 12k is better than the gwf.
you can then begin to fix ALL the problems mentioned in the forum?
bf+critical damage? steel blitz? iv nerfs?unstoppable?
more than a month and all you could with all his "care" was killing the gwf in every aspect of this game. I have the right to make wrong assumptions about preview buffs. you program this <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
ps:I do not need to mention that, aoe or not, this class feature of cw is far superior to steelblitz.
The most annoying is all CW ask again for buffs and for "more single target dps"
IBS, our best power, loses damage hitting multiple targets. like 10k critical
I need to mark + bf for the line Aimed, and even then, it loses damage when it hits 3 targets.
this devs listen to every stupid game player, all weeping and demagoguery he gives attention. you are no more than three modules shows the obvious, with screenshots, etc, and they do not change anything.
I do not think I realized that my prone avalanch of steel is lower now? my ibs dont hit critical?
IBS, our best power, loses damage hitting multiple targets. like 10k critical
I need to mark + bf for the line Aimed, and even then, it loses damage when it hits 3 targets.
this devs listen to every stupid game player, all weeping and demagoguery he gives attention. you are no more than three modules shows the obvious, with screenshots, etc, and they do not change anything.
I do not think I realized that my prone avalanch of steel is lower now?
No worries bro', only IBS has reduced damages by hitting multi-target.
OH WAIT. ALL our At-Wills (Reaping Strike hasn't the description "Damages reduced by hitting multi-target" but it does)
2 Encounters.
But wait, we are supposed to be the best AoE DPS, so ... HOW ?
But wait, we have huge damage boost ... Yeah, huge ... But everything has <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> base damage. I prefer a +9% AoE Damage on a 10k base damage like CW than a +40% damage on a 1800 base damage and also reduced by hitting multi-target.
But wait, people still ask to nerf Destroyer stacks. They ask "give 10 stacks of 1.5/2%".
you know what's worse? I just wanted my perfect vorpal working .
other classes are superior? I dont care. let this bunch of superb believe that there is something complex play with cw. but I spent time to make a vorpal. with all this mess in the game economy probably this <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> must be costing the price of a bike. perhaps a car.
I want my bf works with vorpal. not too much to ask.
I will not even comment on the animation of gwf. or the server <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> now
if is ok to have eye and spellstorm cw so broken op as u made it with last update then roll back deep gash,student,unstopale so we can preform even close as good as now broken again cws or we will do 2 or 3 times less dps have no utily or controll while spellstorm have all of this the best in game
Great Weapon Fighters have been dominating in PvP and we wanted to take this opportunity to dial them back a little bit by giving them some more severe choices to make when deciding between survivability and damage. but cw now have a super shield and the big part of your damages is in class feature:
and good gwfs try bargain focused destroyer... Is not amazing that we are the "only players" who always ask for small buffs, always concerned with the balance of the game, but we NEVER heard?
"If Sentinel GWFs could get sticky marks as part of their capstone (but no 20% damage or combat advantage given, since they get a feat for +15% damage against marked targets anyway), that would make sense to let them tank better, but other brands of GWFs do not require it to fulfill their main intended functions."
i agree. put steel blitz in "stormspell line"and solve all my problems. I think I had already asked this a few 100 threads ago, but it's never too late.
Now, as the dev understands everything conversely, we expect the cw receiving mark too.
After more testing on preview, the consensus seems to be that
1. CC immunity on sprint leads to builds with nearly constant CC immunity, weaving in unstoppable. Making troll builds that exploit that and run away to pot up for health in PvP when they run low. It really has to go.
2. With the correct build, the Intimidation feat becomes a little too damaging, as the damage also requires no skill to land. The damage should be subject to damage mitigation, especially Tenacity and damage resistance.
3. GWF stuns from Frontline Surge and Takedown last a little too long; maybe dial back to 2.5 seconds. Fixing Frontline Surge in particular would help make Swordmaster look more competitive in comparison.
4. It still doesn't seem like a good concept that GWFs got all the same boosts for mark that GFs got, and them being sticky marks on top. GF mark giving combat advantage and additional personal damage boost was a good boost for GFs that made their tab mechanic a little more appealing and competitive. Giving it to GWFs too was really unnecessary. If Sentinel GWFs could get sticky marks as part of their capstone (but no 20% damage or combat advantage given, since they get a feat for +15% damage against marked targets anyway), that would make sense to let them tank better, but other brands of GWFs do not require it to fulfill their main intended functions.
5. The instigator path is still dead. Needs love at some point.
so the class is dead and unplayable and you talkin ****...
wtih the correct build u cannot do more than 7,6k power so with 14sec and 16 sec as cooldowns how can you do too much damage?
to land a takedown on classes as tr/hr/cw/gf it's nearly impossible...
if there are 2 classes cappin 2 and i go with GWF , i am dead in like 2-3 seconds , as all of you is yellin give sentinel more tankines, well he hasn't as other classes ignores defense/deflect and do direct damage..
what is more to say.. i am very mad at GentlemanCrush, for not talkin in this thread and not givin any response, indeed he might be busy, but so do i , and i want a direct aproch not doing tickets where i get a standar response..
feedback: Draing shout and come and get it , needs lower cooldowns
feedback: Briatwine stacks with assailant from CW making this impossible to kill a CW, and i need to mention that every class can get to 40.000 hp , not only great weapon fighters, so a fight between a CW with 22.000 hp and a gwf with 40.000 hp , the gwf will be the winner, but CWs can get to 40k hp same as HR/DC , so i dont know how you guys tested this out, but it's unbalanced.
feedback: as sentinel playng with Frontline Surge or Takedown it's impossible, they might stun people, but they wont do any significant damage , so i was thinkin if ROAR/TAkedown is for Destroyer paragon, and Come and Get it and Daring shout is for sentinel paragon, why is this big difference in their cooldowns?
feedback: the cooldown of threating rush should be either 5 seconds or 7 seconds, 9 seconds it's too much, and fix the animation.
feedback: the damage sure strike does it's to little and i expect to be increased as you added features as tenacity/belt that gives more con, and different changes, we need to increase our base damage as well ...
- the class seems to be enjoying a comfortable position now, and you are no longer carried by roars and pronechains for huge, guaranteed damage
- GWF will be a very good support class for CW, opening lots of new interesting possibilities. I am looking forward to play with GWFs.
- GWF SM Senti still has bugged OP build as it was pointed out.
- the class seems to be enjoying a comfortable position now, and you are no longer carried by roars and pronechains for huge, guaranteed damage
- GWF will be a very good support class for CW, opening lots of new interesting possibilities. I am looking forward to play with GWFs.
- GWF SM Senti still has bugged OP build as it was pointed out.
are you godamn kidding me ?
"Comfortable position and enyoing" seriously you must have a high troll level
And You still QQ ?
And "a good support for cw"
LOL. Stop make me laugh. Return asking buffes for your class.
As i asked previously, i just want to know this "broken and OP build" for GWFs (i am almost sure this build is the Corrupted Black Ice armor set. XDDDD +960 of power in 12 secs and then, +15% of run speed for 22 seconds). If you want to be fixed, then, make it public, this way, the devs will fix it ASAP and nerf, more, the GWF class due they cant face the fact they got their arses kicked by PvP Players.
the build is just sentinel and 3 specifics encounters. This is getting annoying all the people still asking for nerfs and also want nerf for the next "at least viable build" they don t even know.
and corrupted black ice gives 800 power and 15% movespeed for 10 second. So before opening your mouth go verify what you say.
EDIT : corrupted black ice enchant, 800 and corrupted black ice 960, mistake
Stfu the build is just sentinel and 3 specifics encounters. This is getting annoying all the people still asking for nerfs and also want nerf for the next "at least viable build" they don t even know.
and corrupted black ice gives 800 power and 15% movespeed for 10 second. So before opening your mouth go verify what you say.
the build is pretty simple, but it's not viable
and you dont do it with full corrupted black ice, cuz it's useless
you do with feets and bracers purified = 580 power + corrupted helm and armour , and stack as much radiants as you can get, gainin more power in your build... i've posted it on thread, but it's not viable!!! the cooldowns are to big and the encounters doesn't stack with mark buff damage..
this is the perfect build for Sentinel , more or less. the key to this build is Intimidation.
try this. but still it has minuses..like cooldowns.
either way... there aren't any solid builds as there are to many nerfs to the gwf mechanics...
but if the CW will have they shield nerfed , this build is viable against CW's
if the HR won't do so much damage or heal so much this build is viable
if the damage goes through GF block this build is viable
and there are other things that can improve this build.
- GWF will be a very good support class for CW, opening lots of new interesting possibilities. I am looking forward to play with GWFs.
You said it right there buddy. So while the "Control" wizards were supposed to support with "control" while the guy with the Big a$$ sword was supposed to be dealing damage, the next mod will probably work in the exact opposite direction than was intended. Yes, yes..I understand the whole concept of damage being a form of control, as per the handbooks. But anyone consider the possibility that whoever wrote that concept into the handbook may have been wrong in doing so? (Blasphemy, ehh?). By that logic, you do not need tanking, healing, etc..cos a dead mob makes everything else irrelevant (just like the dead mob is the controlled mob logic). Oh wait, that is in fact the state of the game, with possibility of that state remaining unchanged in the next mod.
I am OK with CWs being able to deal with damage, but GWFs were meant as strikers with off-tank being their secondary role. Now it will just be the off-tank part that will be viable for PvE (no idea, I will let the PvPers chime in on the state of PvP) although I may stick around as a SM Destroyer and be the weak striker everyone points and laughs :P
Alas, I think this is getting to the end of the feedback phase. Current build on Preview is more or less likely to make it to the Live shard, with people reporting Prepatches. So Good luck and Enjoy, while u can.
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you can then begin to fix ALL the problems mentioned in the forum?
bf+critical damage? steel blitz? iv nerfs?unstoppable?
more than a month and all you could with all his "care" was killing the gwf in every aspect of this game. I have the right to make wrong assumptions about preview buffs. you program this <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
ps:I do not need to mention that, aoe or not, this class feature of cw is far superior to steelblitz.
The most annoying is all CW ask again for buffs and for "more single target dps"
IBS, our best power, loses damage hitting multiple targets. like 10k critical
I need to mark + bf for the line Aimed, and even then, it loses damage when it hits 3 targets.
this devs listen to every stupid game player, all weeping and demagoguery he gives attention. you are no more than three modules shows the obvious, with screenshots, etc, and they do not change anything.
I do not think I realized that my prone avalanch of steel is lower now? my ibs dont hit critical?
No worries bro', only IBS has reduced damages by hitting multi-target.
OH WAIT. ALL our At-Wills (Reaping Strike hasn't the description "Damages reduced by hitting multi-target" but it does)
2 Encounters.
But wait, we are supposed to be the best AoE DPS, so ... HOW ?
But wait, we have huge damage boost ... Yeah, huge ... But everything has <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> base damage. I prefer a +9% AoE Damage on a 10k base damage like CW than a +40% damage on a 1800 base damage and also reduced by hitting multi-target.
But wait, people still ask to nerf Destroyer stacks. They ask "give 10 stacks of 1.5/2%".
LOLOLOL. Delete GWF then.
other classes are superior? I dont care. let this bunch of superb believe that there is something complex play with cw. but I spent time to make a vorpal. with all this mess in the game economy probably this <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> must be costing the price of a bike. perhaps a car.
I want my bf works with vorpal. not too much to ask.
I will not even comment on the animation of gwf. or the server <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> now
then comes someone say to keep the focus on gwf if all that is said about gwf, there's nothing to talk about in this game than other classes.
Hitting 5 targets, i'd say 30%. 10-15 I'd say 35-37%. More than 20, i'm sure it is a loss of more than 40% dps
yes, but we are "defender" ... wait ...
Nah we are supposed to be the most aoe dps but we are just a melee who runs and who is immune.
and good gwfs try bargain focused destroyer... Is not amazing that we are the "only players" who always ask for small buffs, always concerned with the balance of the game, but we NEVER heard?
In the preview a sentinel gwf has more damages than destroyer in pvp. With same mobility and more tanking.
Nah instigator is op atm !! Nerf !
Just saying, the only utility of Slam was that he could interrupt Valindra's cast In malabog but it doesn t anymore. Another power to just delete.
i agree. put steel blitz in "stormspell line"and solve all my problems. I think I had already asked this a few 100 threads ago, but it's never too late.
Now, as the dev understands everything conversely, we expect the cw receiving mark too.
well, Saturday morning. time to live.
A +100% damage Mark on cw would be quite appreciated.
so the class is dead and unplayable and you talkin ****...
wtih the correct build u cannot do more than 7,6k power so with 14sec and 16 sec as cooldowns how can you do too much damage?
to land a takedown on classes as tr/hr/cw/gf it's nearly impossible...
if there are 2 classes cappin 2 and i go with GWF , i am dead in like 2-3 seconds , as all of you is yellin give sentinel more tankines, well he hasn't as other classes ignores defense/deflect and do direct damage..
what is more to say.. i am very mad at GentlemanCrush, for not talkin in this thread and not givin any response, indeed he might be busy, but so do i , and i want a direct aproch not doing tickets where i get a standar response..
feedback: Draing shout and come and get it , needs lower cooldowns
feedback: Briatwine stacks with assailant from CW making this impossible to kill a CW, and i need to mention that every class can get to 40.000 hp , not only great weapon fighters, so a fight between a CW with 22.000 hp and a gwf with 40.000 hp , the gwf will be the winner, but CWs can get to 40k hp same as HR/DC , so i dont know how you guys tested this out, but it's unbalanced.
feedback: as sentinel playng with Frontline Surge or Takedown it's impossible, they might stun people, but they wont do any significant damage , so i was thinkin if ROAR/TAkedown is for Destroyer paragon, and Come and Get it and Daring shout is for sentinel paragon, why is this big difference in their cooldowns?
feedback: the cooldown of threating rush should be either 5 seconds or 7 seconds, 9 seconds it's too much, and fix the animation.
feedback: the damage sure strike does it's to little and i expect to be increased as you added features as tenacity/belt that gives more con, and different changes, we need to increase our base damage as well ...
- the class seems to be enjoying a comfortable position now, and you are no longer carried by roars and pronechains for huge, guaranteed damage
- GWF will be a very good support class for CW, opening lots of new interesting possibilities. I am looking forward to play with GWFs.
- GWF SM Senti still has bugged OP build as it was pointed out.
are you godamn kidding me ?
"Comfortable position and enyoing" seriously you must have a high troll level
And You still QQ ?
And "a good support for cw"
LOL. Stop make me laugh. Return asking buffes for your class.
the build is just sentinel and 3 specifics encounters. This is getting annoying all the people still asking for nerfs and also want nerf for the next "at least viable build" they don t even know.
and corrupted black ice gives 800 power and 15% movespeed for 10 second. So before opening your mouth go verify what you say.
EDIT : corrupted black ice enchant, 800 and corrupted black ice 960, mistake
the build is pretty simple, but it's not viable
and you dont do it with full corrupted black ice, cuz it's useless
you do with feets and bracers purified = 580 power + corrupted helm and armour , and stack as much radiants as you can get, gainin more power in your build... i've posted it on thread, but it's not viable!!! the cooldowns are to big and the encounters doesn't stack with mark buff damage..
this is the perfect build for Sentinel , more or less. the key to this build is Intimidation.
try this. but still it has minuses..like cooldowns.
either way... there aren't any solid builds as there are to many nerfs to the gwf mechanics...
but if the CW will have they shield nerfed , this build is viable against CW's
if the HR won't do so much damage or heal so much this build is viable
if the damage goes through GF block this build is viable
and there are other things that can improve this build.
was talking about corrupted black ice enchantment then corrupted black ice set 4
You said it right there buddy. So while the "Control" wizards were supposed to support with "control" while the guy with the Big a$$ sword was supposed to be dealing damage, the next mod will probably work in the exact opposite direction than was intended. Yes, yes..I understand the whole concept of damage being a form of control, as per the handbooks. But anyone consider the possibility that whoever wrote that concept into the handbook may have been wrong in doing so? (Blasphemy, ehh?). By that logic, you do not need tanking, healing, etc..cos a dead mob makes everything else irrelevant (just like the dead mob is the controlled mob logic). Oh wait, that is in fact the state of the game, with possibility of that state remaining unchanged in the next mod.
I am OK with CWs being able to deal with damage, but GWFs were meant as strikers with off-tank being their secondary role. Now it will just be the off-tank part that will be viable for PvE (no idea, I will let the PvPers chime in on the state of PvP) although I may stick around as a SM Destroyer and be the weak striker everyone points and laughs :P
Alas, I think this is getting to the end of the feedback phase. Current build on Preview is more or less likely to make it to the Live shard, with people reporting Prepatches. So Good luck and Enjoy, while u can.