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  • braddassbraddass Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 108
    edited May 2013
    dezstravus wrote: »

    Q: Will you be performing a complete shard wipe to counteract the effects of the exploit?

    A: We are happy to announce that we have found a way to restore the economy and resolve this issue without significantly reverting player progress. After careful consideration, we have been able to identify and act upon what we consider to be the best course of action to ensure fairness and balance of Neverwinter's in-game economy. This plan has included the rollback of game servers to 5:20AM PDT on 5/19/13 and permanent banning of accounts that participated in the exploit. We are further investigating any measures that may need to be taken, and thank you for all of your feedback and support.

    If you got rid of all the exploited AD, why are the gold-selling sites claiming 100s of million of AD in stock?

    The economy is not fair and balanced. How can it be when you allowed exploiting to go on for weeks?
    I am a Lawyer in real life, but I try to roleplay an honorable character ;)
  • paganhawkpaganhawk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    braddass wrote: »
    If you got rid of all the exploited AD, why are the gold-selling sites claiming 100s of million of AD in stock?

    The economy is not fair and balanced. How can it be when you allowed exploiting to go on for weeks?


    They did not say it is back to correct, they said they have acted upon what they consider to be the best course to restore it.... INCLUDING banning, rollback, and further investigating.....

    As the passage you quoted says "we are further investigating any measures that may need to be taken, ...." so they are NOT saying this is over, they are saying this is where they are at now. Maybe those sites have not caught up their advertising yet, or maybe there there still needs to be some checking.... oh, wait.... The devs ARE still investigating.....
  • fenixuphighfenixuphigh Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    This is completely WRONG what has been done to me and other innocent players I have seen. I have never ONCE exploited in this game, NEVER. My account has been banned for (I am sure) being affluent due to playing the market. I have never even touched Never Castle nor have I EVER logged onto gateway. I was not even level 60 when Never Castle glitch was fixed.

    I have spent many hours of my play time hounding the market day in day out buying the t3 main hand and off hands for cheap and reselling for the price they SHOULD be posted at. It made me a lot of money and has also balanced the economy fairly well. Now I get a BAN for this. I can also confirm of a guild that has been ALL banned for doing the Never Castle glitch, but guess what ONLY FOR THREE DAYS. There are two in the guild who did the glitch that DID NOT GET BANNED AT ALL.

    I want to see some honesty and TRUE action taken. This is completely unacceptable and I want my account back now. I like the game a lot but Cryptic, you all need some work.

    I have not even received an e-mail for why and how long I was banned. I am thoroughly annoyed I was banned while the exploiters got only a 3 day ban or WERE NEVER BANNED AT ALL. FIX THIS and please give me my account back!
  • adamantium1adamantium1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I think you all took the best rout possible for a bad situation and thanks for the gift bag. I am also encouraged you are still investigating the issue and will hopefully catch the folks who have been exploiting this bug since day one.

    Keep it honest and keep us informed and much of your playerbase will stick around thanks Cryptic and PW.
  • listyourfearslistyourfears Banned Users Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    2 words for the never winter team
    "fork u"
  • lykanixuslykanixus Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I lost my equip and now i stop play this game :(
  • mattplexmattplex Member Posts: 55
    edited May 2013
    So this xp booster.. How long does it last ? And does it work for all XP gained (praying, PvP, etc)?
  • paganhawkpaganhawk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    mattplex wrote: »
    So this xp booster.. How long does it last ? And does it work for all XP gained (praying, PvP, etc)?


    Try posting that question here http://nw.perfectworld.com/news/?p=894471&cpage=1 don't klnow if it will work better, but at least on the page that tells us about it.
  • vaelosvaelos Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    http://www.reddit.com/r/Neverwinter/comments/1er69m/so_are_there_really_people_who_still_got_their/

    people there claiming to have dodged bans and retain millions/billions of AD and many cats across many chars each
  • failpatchfailpatch Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    This is completely WRONG what has been done to me and other innocent players I have seen. I have never ONCE exploited in this game, NEVER. My account has been banned for (I am sure) being affluent due to playing the market. I have never even touched Never Castle nor have I EVER logged onto gateway. I was not even level 60 when Never Castle glitch was fixed.

    I have spent many hours of my play time hounding the market day in day out buying the t3 main hand and off hands for cheap and reselling for the price they SHOULD be posted at. It made me a lot of money and has also balanced the economy fairly well. Now I get a BAN for this. I can also confirm of a guild that has been ALL banned for doing the Never Castle glitch, but guess what ONLY FOR THREE DAYS. There are two in the guild who did the glitch that DID NOT GET BANNED AT ALL.

    I want to see some honesty and TRUE action taken. This is completely unacceptable and I want my account back now. I like the game a lot but Cryptic, you all need some work.

    I have not even received an e-mail for why and how long I was banned. I am thoroughly annoyed I was banned while the exploiters got only a 3 day ban or WERE NEVER BANNED AT ALL. FIX THIS and please give me my account back!

    Everyone banned from Sunday was master account perma banned from all PWE products, no warning, no three day cool down warning for testing a bug/exploit. They are not going to unban anyone.
  • dwalishingdwalishing Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I thought I might shed some light on what happened last weekend. I was banned. The exploit they have told you about is not the one I was using and I have fraps'd myself doing it and sent them a support ticket about it. However, they still haven't gotten back to me. It allowed me to gather 99Million AD in mere mins(the max you can have is roughly 99.7M on a character.). Early Sunday morning just for kicks, to see if I could do it, I pumped about 600M AD into the economy across all three severs buying the most expensive things I could. You know share the wealth, real Obama type stuff. I used to the AD zen exchange to transfer the AD because Zen was account wide. I didn't care how much it cost because I had unlimited AD.... up to that point I was just giving stuff away to people Dragon... I really hope Perfect World responds to my ticket or gets in contact with me because my exploit WAS NOT negative bidding on the AH or defeating bosses super quick, there seames to be a lot of holes for AD to leak through and they need to fix it.

    Also sorry? :(
  • vinunleadedvinunleaded Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 41
    edited May 2013
    If you were banned its because you did something wrong.
    Stop acting all innocent.
  • amazingramazingr Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dwalishing wrote: »
    I thought I might shed some light on what happened last weekend. I was banned. The exploit they have told you about is not the one I was using and I have fraps'd myself doing it and sent them a support ticket about it. However, they still haven't gotten back to me. It allowed me to gather 99Million AD in mere mins(the max you can have is roughly 99.7M on a character.). Early Sunday morning just for kicks, to see if I could do it, I pumped about 600M AD into the economy across all three severs buying the most expensive things I could. You know share the wealth, real Obama type stuff. I used to the AD zen exchange to transfer the AD because Zen was account wide. I didn't care how much it cost because I had unlimited AD.... up to that point I was just giving stuff away to people Dragon... I really hope Perfect World responds to my ticket or gets in contact with me because my exploit WAS NOT negative bidding on the AH or defeating bosses super quick, there seames to be a lot of holes for AD to leak through and they need to fix it.

    Also sorry? :(

    So you sent a capture of yourself exploiting the game to prove you didn't use a different exploit and so should not have been banned and should be allowed to keep playing and running your different exploit .... bwahahahahaha ... hahaahaha .... oh make it stop .... hahahaahahaha.
  • vaelosvaelos Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Exploiting in an isolated manner and reporting it is one thing.

    Using it to purchase zen an AH items is disrupting the economy and you aren't getting unbanned.
  • paganhawkpaganhawk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    vaelos wrote: »
    http://www.reddit.com/r/Neverwinter/comments/1er69m/so_are_there_really_people_who_still_got_their/

    people there claiming to have dodged bans and retain millions/billions of AD and many cats across many chars each



    And hopefully they get caught..... the devs have stated that they are still invesigating to see if further action is necessary.
  • crinklies02crinklies02 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    In the game current state they absolutely have to do a server wipe, the game is dying hour by hour, more and more people are quitting simply knowing there's billions of unaccounted ad for, why would anyone even bother to farm and sell loot when you've got certain people with that amount...
  • paganhawkpaganhawk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dwalishing wrote: »
    I thought I might shed some light on what happened last weekend. I was banned. The exploit they have told you about is not the one I was using and I have fraps'd myself doing it and sent them a support ticket about it. However, they still haven't gotten back to me. It allowed me to gather 99Million AD in mere mins(the max you can have is roughly 99.7M on a character.). Early Sunday morning just for kicks, to see if I could do it, I pumped about 600M AD into the economy across all three severs buying the most expensive things I could. You know share the wealth, real Obama type stuff. I used to the AD zen exchange to transfer the AD because Zen was account wide. I didn't care how much it cost because I had unlimited AD.... up to that point I was just giving stuff away to people Dragon... I really hope Perfect World responds to my ticket or gets in contact with me because my exploit WAS NOT negative bidding on the AH or defeating bosses super quick, there seames to be a lot of holes for AD to leak through and they need to fix it.

    Also sorry? :(

    I like the sorry... not sure if it is enough though.... yes, you did report it, but THEN you exploited it, and that is probably why you got banned, no matter if it is the one everyone thought it was or not... it was still exploitation.
  • falson1falson1 Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 135 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    In the game current state they absolutely have to do a server wipe, the game is dying hour by hour, more and more people are quitting simply knowing there's billions of unaccounted ad for, why would anyone even bother to farm and sell loot when you've got certain people with that amount...

    Oh just shut up about the Wipe.. its not going to happen all it does is make you look like that much more or a loser.
  • amazingramazingr Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I had Nightmare I had pulled from a lockbox on the Wednesday or Thursday before the "event" and had put it up on the AH. It had a high bid of 800k AD on Saturday afternoon, and then sometime Saturday night or early Sunday morning it sold for the buyout which I had set at 1.25 million AD. I am sure one of the suspect user accounts bought it out as I collected my AD and went right to the AH to find a Galeb Dur and they were all gone, and had been there Saturday afternoon. I hand't thought much about it until all the stuff that happened on Sunday. So long back story leads to my question lol. Will my Nightmare be back in the AH in my consignments once the AH is restored? Or will it be back in my inventory? Should I open a support req for this? Sorry but a pull in a million from a lockbox for a high value item is a big loss to me. :)
  • pr0motepr0mote Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 62
    edited May 2013
    SO... wheres AH?
  • dwalishingdwalishing Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    never said what I did wasn't wrong and not looking to get unbanned lol just shedding some light.
  • falson1falson1 Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 135 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    dwalishing wrote: »
    never said what I did wasn't wrong and not looking to get unbanned lol just shedding some light.

    You cheated and got banned. what light is there to shed? you got what you deserved.. moving on...
  • dwalishingdwalishing Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    My issue was that this roll back was such a drastic fix that was intended to fix this. But I could just make a new account like this one and do it all over again. The problem still exists and has the potential to ruin the economy again in just a few hours.
  • failpatchfailpatch Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Yep welcome to BETA where you get banned for testing a bug and proving it works.
  • necronomniconnecronomnicon Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    falson1 wrote: »
    Oh just shut up about the Wipe.. its not going to happen all it does is make you look like that much more or a loser.

    exploiter relieved to keep it's piggy bank accounts ^
    So farewell hope, and with hope farewell fear,
    Farewell remorse; all good to me is lost.
    Evil, be thou my good.
  • dezstravusdezstravus Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Hey All,

    I've updated the FAQ, specifically in regards to the Armored Nightmare mounts. Thank you for your patience!
  • falson1falson1 Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 135 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    exploiter relieved to keep it's piggy bank accounts ^

    Oh obviously, since I don't want a Wipe I must be a cheater. What great logic that is. So by that same logic, you don't like the cheaters not because of the economy, you are just jealous you could not cheat with them.

    Duh!

    I have never even logged into the gateway.. ever. I just spent a TON of time buying low and selling high in the AH, as well as farming many things. Now lets hear you cry and whine some more.
  • falson1falson1 Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 135 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    dezstravus wrote: »
    Hey All,

    I've updated the FAQ, specifically in regards to the Armored Nightmare mounts. Thank you for your patience!

    Can you give an update on the AH? It seems rather silly it is STILL not up. I have been on your side through this entire experience, but its getting rather difficult to stay that way when you will not even give an ETA to when the AH will be up or why when you patched it today its still not up.
  • necronomniconnecronomnicon Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    falson1 wrote: »
    Oh obviously, since I don't want a Wipe I must be a cheater. What great logic that is. So by that same logic, you don't like the cheaters not because of the economy, you are just jealous you could not cheat with them.

    Duh!

    I have never even logged into the gateway.. ever. I just spent a TON of time buying low and selling high in the AH, as well as farming many things. Now lets hear you cry and whine some more.

    the cockiness of a true cheater right there. done responding to you, enjoy my money.
    So farewell hope, and with hope farewell fear,
    Farewell remorse; all good to me is lost.
    Evil, be thou my good.
  • falson1falson1 Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 135 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    the cockiness of a true cheater right there. done responding to you, enjoy my money.

    whine.. snivel.. cry some more. Everyone is just against you. Everyone who plays the game is just obviously a cheater because they do not agree with your opinion.. whine.. cry.. snivel..

    That is how you sound.. just a FYI and its rather pathetic.
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