Module 12 Speculation and Discussion

isaintify1

@hustin1 Well in Mod 11 they talked so much about the Far Realm and how it was such a dangerous place yadda yadda.... I would thoroughly enjoy going into this extremely dangerous realm. I imagine its probably something like the FeyDark.... or maybe worse who knows.

pterias

If done properly, the Far Realm should be far worse than the Feydark, imo. I think Gyrion's lair was supposed to be in the Far Realm, but it was just a small, controlled corner of it.

gabrieldourden

They could actually add Skullport in the Underdark map as an entry to Undermountain and I would really like to see something based on that. Lord Neverember, scorned by the recent events in Waterdeep, turns to the other (dark?) side and sends the adventurers to Skullport. The goal is to enter the Undermountain and look for treasures and for a dark secret of the Neverember family buried inside the walls of the largest dungeons inthe realms. Fill the dungeons with magic-based monsters, wizards that cast Mordenkainen's disjunction to shut down all buffs and debuffs, deadly traps and effects, ...

isaintify1

@gabrieldourden If they did that would be cool to see the big guys come in (gangs).

The Fray - Thirteen mages who helped the Fourteenth Skull maintain what was left of the Mantle.
The Mandible - The most influential gang in town.
The Reforged Ring - Criminal ring that dealt in slavery.
The Riverborn - Disorganized group of pirates.

Grabbed this tidbit from the wiki.

hustin1

There are several places in NWN 2 that we could see fleshed out:

Port Llast
Candlekeep
The Mere of Dead Men
Crossroad Keep
Highcliff
West Harbor
Thundertree
Conyberry

And there are places even in Neverwinter itself that are intriguing. For instance, there used to be an Academy of Magic in Upper Blacklake, near Castle Never. It "mysteriously" burned down some years later (*cough* Qara *cough*). Still, there could be many secrets buried there...

niadan

What if Makos' soul is stored in plain sight? Maybe aided by Celeste? Wasn't it her idea to build a memorial? I can't remember. Old age is a HAMSTER.

isaintify1

hustin1 said:

There are several places in NWN 2 that we could see fleshed out:

Port Llast
Candlekeep
The Mere of Dead Men
Crossroad Keep
Highcliff
West Harbor
Thundertree
Conyberry

And there are places even in Neverwinter itself that are intriguing. For instance, there used to be an Academy of Magic in Upper Blacklake, near Castle Never. It "mysteriously" burned down some years later (*cough* Qara *cough*). Still, there could be many secrets buried there...

Would be interesting to see but not sure if it would bring much to the game itself...unless they do it as one of those mini quests like 11.b

pterias

niadan said:

What if Makos' soul is stored in plain sight? Maybe aided by Celeste? Wasn't it her idea to build a memorial? I can't remember. Old age is a HAMSTER.

Hmm, interesting idea. I doubt Celeste would be in on it thought, she seemed genuinely upset and trying to help. Maybe Kavatos? It would help explain his sudden insertion into Neverember's inner circle without it being an AB trick. Kavatos has already shown himself to be quite the secret operator with infiltrating Celeste into Gyrion's camp.

tizzock

with the stream of annihalation anouncment the devil face in the background is from the tomb of horrors set in greyhawk

pterias

I've been waiting for official Greyhawk support from WotC since the 5E launch. That said though, Tomb of Horrors was converted to 5E and re-released in Tales from the Yawning Portal recently, so that explains the ToH face. This current season is a kinda "retro season". I expect them to get back on the "Time to save the Realms from a world-shattering, existential threat! Again!" bandwagon with the late summer release.

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wilbur626

They did quote mr Thomas Foss saying "We are going to a place far away" in the last driftwood tavern stream, so I think @isaintify1 is 100% correct about mod 12 set in the Far Realm

clericalist

wilbur626 said:

They did quote mr Thomas Foss saying "We are going to a place far away" in the last driftwood tavern stream, so I think @isaintify1 is 100% correct about mod 12 set in the Far Realm

I can't remember exactly, but wasn't that dungeon with the elder brain set in the far realm. The Illithid* are supposed to come from there and I always assumed where that dungeon was.

*Since the Far Realm was based on Lovecraft and they had the Cthulu look to them.

therealprotex

One hint that if Makos returns, he might not do so as the friendly Warlock we all liked: at the feast in King Bruenor's throne room (was it the last "quest" of Maze Engine? I think so), didn't Drizzt warn us to keep an eye on Makos...?

therealprotex

pterias said:

Hmm, interesting idea. I doubt Celeste would be in on it thought, she seemed genuinely upset and trying to help. Maybe Kavatos? It would help explain his sudden insertion into Neverember's inner circle without it being an AB trick. Kavatos has already shown himself to be quite the secret operator with infiltrating Celeste into Gyrion's camp.

Another mage from an actual evil group of mages that pretends to support the heroes and in the end betrays them? Sounds familiar: Kavatos <-> Rath Modar

Despite knowing Cryptic's affinity to re-use stuff, I doubt that they re-use this plot, too.

thornbr1nger

Mindflayers, Gith' s Revolt, Dread Vault returns, Psionic Boons...

Just sayin.

isaintify1

thornbr1nger said:

Mindflayers, Gith' s Revolt, Dread Vault returns, Psionic Boons...



Just sayin.

Psionic class

isaintify1

therealprotex said:

One hint that if Makos returns, he might not do so as the friendly Warlock we all liked: at the feast in King Bruenor's throne room (was it the last "quest" of Maze Engine? I think so), didn't Drizzt warn us to keep an eye on Makos...?

Dude I had 100 and 10 precent forgotten about that! Yeah Makos might not be finished yet then it seems. BUT it could also mean that he thought he was emotionally unstable?

nitocris83

This thread has been an awesome lead up to tomorrow! Can't wait for Thomas to share all the details ^.^

beckylunatic

isaintify1 said:

therealprotex said:

One hint that if Makos returns, he might not do so as the friendly Warlock we all liked: at the feast in King Bruenor's throne room (was it the last "quest" of Maze Engine? I think so), didn't Drizzt warn us to keep an eye on Makos...?

Dude I had 100 and 10 precent forgotten about that! Yeah Makos might not be finished yet then it seems. BUT it could also mean that he thought he was emotionally unstable?

Honestly, I thought that was just lampshading that Makos seemed depressed and like he was losing heart, which played out later.

I don't see a betrayal coming from that quarter, but I do think that Makos may have been hiding more plans from everyone, that he knew he'd have to die to fulfill.

True Resurrection doesn't require any earthly remains, only a willing spirit and a powerful enough cleric, so it's not even hopeless that he could come back when he's actually ready.

isaintify1

@beckylunatic Yeah I personally had a feeling it was because he was depressed and what not, but he does have some sort of plans whether good or bad I guess we will have to wait and see. Would make it far more interesting if he came back and betrayed us. Also Celeste did "join" Gyrion for a while even if it was a double cross, she could be doing a Three-way cross. Something to do with the far realms and maze engine. Eh probably delving to deep into that but would be far more interesting to see some betrayals among the heros of neverwinter.

isaintify1

nitocris83 said:

This thread has been an awesome lead up to tomorrow! Can't wait for Thomas to share all the details ^.^

I will totally be there my twitch name is SkyeBlue_DC haha.

beckylunatic

Celeste is a beautiful cinnamon bun, too good for this world, too pure.

bitt3rnightmar3

What if Makos is the Heir of Neverwinter? I mean.. he could touch the crown o.O

pterias

nitocris83 said:

This thread has been an awesome lead up to tomorrow! Can't wait for Thomas to share all the details ^.^

Wish I could, but I'll be busy playing actual D&D when he's supposed to be on. I'll just have to catch the recap around here afterward.

therealprotex

nitocris83 said:

This thread has been an awesome lead up to tomorrow! Can't wait for Thomas to share all the details ^.^

@nitocris83
Can you tell us if there will be a transcript or recap of the stream here in the forum?

thornbr1nger

Look up the name "Ubtao the Deceiver". He is a Primordial who is worshipped in CHULT, associated with Dinosaurs, clerics are called MAZEWALKERS.
Also Chult apparently has "JUNGLE DRUIDS".

isaintify1

thornbr1nger said:

Look up the name "Ubtao the Deceiver". He is a Primordial who is worshipped in CHULT, associated with Dinosaurs, clerics are called MAZEWALKERS.

Also Chult apparently has "JUNGLE DRUIDS".

hmm new class Jungle Druid?? Would be cool to see, but I prefer a Warlord.. XD

iandarksword

Chult. (I just caught the live stream) Apparently, Rexy from Jurassic Park has a cameo in the trailer...

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