First one submitted. One more to go. Next one will be flameworthy, I promise. ;>
I don't know, I think the Firestorm(think that was his name) like one, is on fire in several places in fact
The costumes are great. can we have a sample full helmet to try on Caliga. I won't lock it... promise
I also notice that at the bottom right corner of the items picture is M2014.
if this is copyright/trademark comment and this is what you do at work. Please make sure your boss isn't going to be pissed at you using it here.
and if not post lots more
First one submitted. One more to go. Next one will be flameworthy, I promise. ;>
hey, that one guy looks pretty flamey ;P
honestly, I love the "energy head" option.... could we have ANY mask work with it, though? not just the metal mask.
also "energy eyes" (hollow, glowing eyes sockets) would be neat... not just behind masks but also for that skull head I've wanted to use to make a rider who seems spectre-like in his black spikey leathers :P
After Cryptic North has narrowed down what is doable......would be good.
Because we sure don't want to hear 'We would love to do it, but.....'.
But so far, it's not too hard to choose...
Yep, we're going to narrow it down to five finalists. All of them will be both awesome in concept, and ideas we can work with. Trust me, we don't want to get locked into anything we can't deliver.
The female template for the Iconic Crest Costume Set is now posted I hope my idea shows through. It may not be super involved or detailed but I hate the fact that most of my heroines either can't wear an emblem or that it loses detail as it bends inwards needlessly. Either way that's my entry and good luck to everybody.
honestly, I love the "energy head" option.... could we have ANY mask work with it, though? not just the metal mask.
also "energy eyes" (hollow, glowing eyes sockets) would be neat... not just behind masks but also for that skull head I've wanted to use to make a rider who seems spectre-like in his black spikey leathers :P
I'm pretty sure it is perfectly possible to make "empty" geo for head with nothing else, but particle effect. Such head could wear every available head accessory. I'm not sure how about eyes, though.
Of course, there is one issue. It seems that costumes with particle effects like flames can't be recolored in tailor. So flames have fixed hue.
Oh, I found one small mistake in my design.
Tights #1 have 5 colors, instead of only 4 possible (including lines with glow option). Not a great problem. Both hues of blue are close enough to make them into one, if this design was actually used.
To the people arguing about not being able to have multiple arms and legs, I made a costume set that gives you fake arms and legs as costume pieces, and I explained the mechanics. It's also easily possible to have extra arms and legs. Just copy the original ones, and displace them. Sure, you'll have the same armor on your top and bottom right arms (or diagonal arms if you go for that), but it wouldn't require any new animations for powers. The second pair of arms could just be non-animated. Legs would be really easy, having no legs like the Chaos Demon and Djinn would obviously be really easy, and having a snake tail for legs or something fancy like that might take a little work but is doable.
_________________________________________________
"There is a point beyond which there is no return. That point must be reached." - Kafka
Hope some people like it. Please let me know if it needs further info or if I forgot something.
There's a lot of nice ideas there, I'll try to make some comment soon. I still have at least two more ideas that I hope I can post before the end of the contest, but this is the one I liked most for now.
Since I feel there is a lack of more mystic-themed costumes and too much high-tech armors in the game, I designed a "Mystic Warrior" costume concept.
Are... we playing the same game? Dark Ages Fantasy, Dark Demon Armor, Ancient Rune Armor, Bone Armor, Dark Fantasy Armor, Demon Knight, Epic Samurai, Shining Knight, Viking Warrior, Wizard/Witch... that's from the C-store and doesn't count the ones from Demonflame/Aftershock (I forget which one) and the stuff from Nemcon and Forum Malvanum.
Tech: Retro Sci-Fi, Cyborg Beast, Hi-Tech, Iron Age, Legacy Power Armor, Power Armor, Robot Samurai, Cyberpunk, Sakura, Tesla, Wired Cyborg. Stuff from Serpent Lantern, that's about it.
I like the shoulder pads. I want more like that that aren't massive and bulky. And... weapons would be nice with all these fantasy sets. And sadly... most of our 'mystical' AND 'tech' armors are a bit on the ... goofy, oversized side of things. I like yours better than anything in the C-Store and would gladly ditch some of them for it.
Agreed... there has always been a heavy Kitsch..or even "action figure" factor to the older pieces that has found its way into every later piece, to varying degrees.
I think, however, that what is missing isnt so much "fantasy", as (well, like his and my titles suggested) the idea of a legendary, semi-magical warrior...
not necessarily a "knight"
and not necessarily a grey-beard "wizard"
something more in the vein of Nocturne or Scarlet.... magic-ish, or magic-esque... but having some other defining quality about them... (nocturne being all gothy, and scarlet being "fallen angelish")
and we need that sensibility for men and women.
That said, it would also be nice to have some "armored up" looks that don't look absurdly bulky, or very plain.... or very restrictive.
I'm getting kind of tired of sets like Superconductor or Knightwing that, due to (grantedly cool/interesting) qualities of texture, or even omissions, are exceptionally difficult to "mix and match" with.
The whole POINT of the Character creator is it's ability to allow us to make what WE want, with the tools provided.... and having tops and bottoms that ONLY really work well with themselves is counterproductive.
In coming up with designs, I've been trying to avoid personal "pet project" costume designs (things that specific characters of mine would like) and datamine the costume parts we have now, to find out what we're lacking....
a new/better western set would be nice, with hats that don't look like they came from the worlds tackiest dude ranch
sets that capture the various ideas of "galactic heroes" are almost completely absent from the game (apart from old school nova and GL "tights" looks)
you cant really be a Starjammer or a Guardians of the Galaxy (traditional or cinematic) in the game, as it stands (again, apart from a pure-tights look)
similarly, legendary heroes, outside of generic greco-roman, european knight, or samurai/ninja are pretty limited. (the new one-sleeve piece was a big help, but it is SO bulky, its crazy)
there's no real ability, again, to mix and match and make a unique look as a legendary hero (that is to say, you can use these pieces on non-traditional looks to make like... cyber ninja, or steampunk samurai.... but its much harder to make a traditional Japanese hero who isnt generically a samurai or a ninja.)
in the same vein, subtler magical looks are sort of missing.... things like magic girl have helpful pieces, but they fall heavily into the "kitsch" category (that skirt? how are you supposed to integrate that into other looks?!)
and more mercenary tactical looks (or anything befitting the more "cinematic" looks found in recent movies and the Boo52) are pretty slim and lacking in diversity, despite the number of parts devoted to the core concept.
I'd include "non-powered heroes" into the above, too (adventurers like indiana jones and doc savage or hometown vigilante's like casey jones and the huntress)... just as an over-all truth that we're lacking visual markers for less omnipotent character types.
Other than just "more tights patterns" or "more hairstyles" or "non-flying vehicles" I'm not really sure what other avenues of comics haven't gotten a good shake, yet, besides the ones listed above.
Are... we playing the same game? Dark Ages Fantasy, Dark Demon Armor, Ancient Rune Armor, Bone Armor, Dark Fantasy Armor, Demon Knight, Epic Samurai, Shining Knight, Viking Warrior, Wizard/Witch... that's from the C-store and doesn't count the ones from Demonflame/Aftershock (I forget which one) and the stuff from Nemcon and Forum Malvanum.
Well... look, Viking Warrior doesn't necessarily fit what I'd call "mystic". Besides, look at how many basic tech items there is in the tailor (that don't need to be purchased) and add them to the Z-Store tech sets, and most of them don't have a Cloth or Leather option for materials. To counter them, there is only a few pieces within the basic ones that are "mystic-themed", like Armor Ancient Tech, Arcane Bracers, Long Boot Arcane (which I don't particularly like the design - it would be nice if the points of the edge were only one in front of the boots instead of two in the sides). The Persian set has some nice pieces that fit the theme, but doesn't have boots to match the bracers. Dark Demon doesn't have any costume in it. This way, when I'm creating heroes more mystically-oriented using armor, I end up using Ancient Rune, Bone, Dark Fantasy, Demon Knight or Epic Samurai Armors. They're all awesome sets, but the number of options pale in front of all the options people have when creating high-tech characters.
About my idea, thanks! I thought about including a staff in it, something like Gandalf's staff in the LotR movies for using with Heavy Weapons powerset. I even thought about a powerset based on staff! Something like Neo done in Matrix Reloaded mixed with some powers like some of the Heavy Weapon. And maybe... something to yell "YOU SHALL NOT PASS"... lol
Hope some people like it. Please let me know if it needs further info or if I forgot something.
There's a lot of nice ideas there, I'll try to make some comment soon. I still have at least two more ideas that I hope I can post before the end of the contest, but this is the one I liked most for now.
hey Luke, it says your name is Antoniasse. That is an absolutely brilliant name
Hope some people like it. Please let me know if it needs further info or if I forgot something.
There's a lot of nice ideas there, I'll try to make some comment soon. I still have at least two more ideas that I hope I can post before the end of the contest, but this is the one I liked most for now.
I like it a lot, but may I suggest some improvements. The tabard looks too bare, I would have a pattern on it, similar to the one on the shin part of the boots, but upside down. Also, the gems make it resemble other existing pieces, so I suggest making them non-ovoid, possibly octagonal or at least multi-faceted. Finally, is it meant to be asymmetrical, or can either shoulder be armoured?
About my idea, thanks! I thought about including a staff in it, something like Gandalf's staff in the LotR movies for using with Heavy Weapons powerset. I even thought about a powerset based on staff! Something like Neo done in Matrix Reloaded mixed with some powers like some of the Heavy Weapon. And maybe... something to yell "YOU SHALL NOT PASS"... lol
I put a lance/spear in mine... we've got the wizard staff (with the crescent-moon blade on it) already, but we don't have anything that's long and thin, really... just the Scythe, which kinda looks goofy, imo.
They're all awesome sets, but the number of options pale in front of all the options people have when creating high-tech characters.
You also have to understand, this isn't a fantasy game. It's a superhero game set in a modern-ish setting with advanced super-tech. To be fair, I do like your entry, but when people say that CO has neglected Mystic themes, I roll my eyes- it's nice to have some, but the game is already over-saturated with this stuff, in my opinion. Especially when you consider the plethora of other fantasy/mystical games out there, and the overwhelming lack of Sci-fi games.
similarly, legendary heroes, outside of generic greco-roman, european knight, or samurai/ninja are pretty limited.
Not even Greco-Roman. Just Greco. CO has no Roman parts save for one (unavailable since On Alert) sword model.
All costume parts in Spartan set are specifically lousy Greek ones an you can't be Roman, unless you are going for only tunic and sandals.
CoH had nice "romanish" set including chestpiece and helmet.
But then, CoH had shields and Roman set without scutum... Just doesn't work.
yeah... missing a real Pteruges, too, if memory serves.
I stick by the "greco-roman" moniker, though... as the clothing does fit both cultures, it's just not as strongly, iconically, roman. (though I didn't realize the gladius had been removed/lost)
You also have to understand, this isn't a fantasy game. It's a superhero game set in a modern-ish setting with advanced super-tech. To be fair, I do like your entry, but when people say that CO has neglected Mystic themes, I roll my eyes- it's nice to have some, but the game is already over-saturated with this stuff, in my opinion. Especially when you consider the plethora of other fantasy/mystical games out there, and the overwhelming lack of Sci-fi games.
sort of a flawed argument, there, Cyber...
I mean, this isn't a sci-fi game either.. and there are plenty of those available too, even if it isnt "as much" as the fantasy ones. (and, perhaps that is the market speaking and saying that there is a greater DEMAND for fantasy aesthetics....and such things should be considered)
the bald truth, though, is that superheroes blend the lines between many disciplines, and there are elements of mythology, fantasy, western, mystery, adventure, espionage, science fiction and science fantasy throughout the universes we accept as "super heroic"
Superheroes, individually, often bridge that same divide... having elements of super science and magic in the same aesthetic and even power suite. MOST super powers involve some sort of hand-waiving, even the more mundane ones.
there are tons of armored up/techy options, in the game already
AND ALSO
there are tons of fantasy/magical options, in the game already.
we don't lack in quantity, we lack in aesthetic style.
nearly all tech-gear comes in two varieties: Iron man or Tech Assassin (three, if you want to count steampunk in there)
likewise, nearly all "fantasy" gear seems to fall into the "european swords and sorcery" category.
Both you and we see that this is a very narrow and ultimately limiting view of our perspective "camps", and really want to see more diversity in STYLE.
it's not that one side or the other is under-represented in the "number of pieces"...
BOTH sides are under-represented in the TYPES of aesthetic options available.
sort of a flawed argument, there, Cyber...
I mean, this isn't a sci-fi game either.. and there are plenty of those available too, even if it isnt "as much" as the fantasy ones. (and, perhaps that is the market speaking and saying that there is a greater DEMAND for fantasy aesthetics....and such things should be considered)
I almost compiled a list of all the 'sci-fi' characters. Just to name a few (very important) ones- Guardians of the Galaxy, Adam Strange, the list goes on and on. It is very, very common in comics for the characters to utilize technology that is above the standard 'contemporary'. Sophisticated technology, like that seen produced by Stark, Luthor, and other characters is commonplace in comics. Some of the earliest comics were in fact, science fiction.
Personally, I think if there's a 'demand' for fantasy aesthetics... then I would gladly direct the players to the link to Neverwinter or any of the other fantasy games out there. I'm not opposed to the addition of them, but IMHO too much of this 'Western Superhero Game' is saturated with demons, wizards, etc- hell, even the final map takes a hero that has battled giant mutants, robot armies, and super-powered monsters and reduces him to playing Buffy the Vampire slayer.
there are tons of armored up/techy options, in the game already
AND ALSO
there are tons of fantasy/magical options, in the game already.
we don't lack in quantity, we lack in aesthetic style.
And see, here is where we agree completely. I take a look at most of the 'tech' parts in this game and it's either 'bug bulky mech armor' or 'cheesy sci-fi tech'. These are things that have been outdated for years. Sleek, advanced, and more practical science fiction-ish tech has been fairly ignored by the game.
nearly all tech-gear comes in two varieties: Iron man or Tech Assassin (three, if you want to count steampunk in there)
I don't count steampunk as 'tech'. While I think it's fine and good and fun on its own, when someone uses steampunk in a modern or advanced setting, I can't help but wonder if they're intentionally playing an idiot that is just being stubborn.
likewise, nearly all "fantasy" gear seems to fall into the "european swords and sorcery" category.
Or worse- anime. I realize that a lot of people love anime, but it's not anything that belongs in Western Superhero settings. Sure, a few elements (I'd be happy if they took some of the artistic inspiration from their mecha and actual armor), but if people want anime games there are literally tons of them out there.
I'm a highly opinionated person. And to be quite honest, I'm happy with the new Sci-Fi Soldier armor... but I'm a bit sick of things that don't fit the setting (like Victorian Era costumes...?) or things that are just too silly.
And not to detract from whoever mentioned the 'everyday items' weapons, but to be fair- this game is lacking already in actual weapons. I'd rather see them beef up the selection that has been cut off since On Alert with more functional weapons than packing this game full of even more silliness.
If I wanted to get hit with a frying pan, I'd marry my ex (She was OP, needs to be nerfed, completely went right through my Damage Resistance and Dodge).
SOLUTION I PROPOSE:
Weapons are one of the things that irk me in CO- we can get some of the coolest weapons in the game gutted (Redeye pistols, Tech Sword) but yet we get silly items (Ping Pong Gun, Trout Sword). I have been pleading for 'weapons packs'. A 'fantasy', 'alien', 'tech', 'tactical', and 'antique' weapons packs would be very, very welcome.
Additionally, you're a good artist. I have an idea for something that could accomodate BOTH of our tastes.
'Malvan Praetorian Guard'. Romanesque, with just enough 'fantasy' and 'sci-fi' to make us both squeal like little girls.
Zam, i think that would actually make a really neat "Parts Pack":
"Large Emblems"
sort of like the steelhawk emblem, but moreso, and even bigger (like whole-chest-sized)
have big V's and Triangles and Shields and Diamonds and Stars (even bigger than one guys currently get, or at least an equally large one for female models)
and have them be either with or without traditional emblems inside, as an options.
Give them all that same level of "weight", like you're wearing something solid.
OH, and then include "weightless" versions, like the current emblems are, and have them hug the form of the character....almost like....
Yeah, make them function almost like a second "tights pattern" layer that can be worn over top of the normal ones
with options of super-sized versions of the current emblems, as well as some basic shapes (the v's and diamonds and crosses like above)
As a package deal of a the "system' of these larger emblems, it would be awesome.
but I don't know if I'd vote for a brand new costume set, just to get one of them :-/
I'm a highly opinionated person. And to be quite honest, I'm happy with the new Sci-Fi Soldier armor... but I'm a bit sick of things that don't fit the setting (like Victorian Era costumes...?) or things that are just too silly.
This is Champions Online. Anything fits the setting. I like to have my eldritch abomination with some Persian clothing and skulls fighting robot pirates and aristocrat vampire Eastern mystical warriors. I also like to see all the different characters people make up. I mean, there are fantasy heroes that have nothing to do with sci-fi, like Dr. Strange and Thor. Superheroes are whatever people want, pretty much.
And no, there really isn't enough "European swords and sorcery" to whoever said that because the only knight costume we have has a Fleur on the front of it, our Rapier has a bigger handle than the longsword, the sceptre also has a Fleur, we can have an Iron Cross as a brooch but not an emblem, we don't have falcon, eagle, stag etc. heraldry emblems, only modern-looking ones and this lion shield. I mean, the tunic doesn't have any emblems except some lines and card suites, and there are no tights with a tunic over chain mail for me to have an emblem on. I have hardly started on the list. There are American swords and sorcery, not European...
_________________________________________________
"There is a point beyond which there is no return. That point must be reached." - Kafka
And no, there really isn't enough "European swords and sorcery" to whoever said that because the only knight costume we have has a Fleur on the front of it, our Rapier has a bigger handle than the longsword, the sceptre also has a Fleur, we can have an Iron Cross as a brooch but not an emblem, we don't have falcon, eagle, stag etc. heraldry emblems, only modern-looking ones and this lion shield. I mean, the tunic doesn't have any emblems except some lines and card suites, and there are no tights with a tunic over chain mail for me to have an emblem on. I have hardly started on the list. There are American swords and sorcery, not European...
^This. And thousand times this.
We have only few costumes and weapons that can be called (more or less) European fantasy.
1-The Shining Knight set and its evilized version with spikes. These are only armor sets actualy having (albeit simplified) functional real platemail scheme.
2-The Spartan set (if you going as far as Antiquity), which is also (albeit understandably simplified, because of the game requirements) Greek hoplite (but then, it has also strange female chestpiece made with exposed midriff, instead of just mirroring male piece). It also doesn't has the most common Greek body armor, a linothorax type. But it's not a big deal, since simplified linothorax can be made in a faily accurate way with use of existing costume parts.
3 - Gladius sword model, which is TERRIBLY oversized and should be rescaled down. Unavailable since On Alert.
4 - Falcata/Makhaira/Kopis sword model, which is also ridiculously oversized and also needs to be rescaled.
Both falcata and gladius should be no longer than 2/3 of a longsword, at best. Also unavailable since On Alert.
5 - Longsword, which is about the only good looking straight blade in the game. As simplified as it is, it is a good representation of a langschwert.
6 - Viking set which is complete fantasy, BUT thankfully it includes a quite detailed and proper model of an early Medieval ridge helmet.
7 - Rapier sword from Dark Fantasy set, though its handle and guard are a bit oversized.
And that's all. The rest is completely high fantasy, with no connection to any European or Asian culture. So-called Dark Fantasy also has nothing to do with Dark Age or dark fantasy. It's faily generic Dungeons & Dragons set, and D&D since 3ed lost their historical inspirations in visual designs.
this has no weapons in but does have costumes for males and females from egypt through to mid 19th century.
I actually rang the publisher to see if hey still had a copy(out of print), got the search their stores and when they found they didn 't have any , asked permission to photocopy the entire book.
It has clothing from egypt through to mid 19th century
for example 11th century
Anyone who makes a hood? I'd like 'bigger' hoods with a wider area around the neck. Certain head things tend to jut out the back of them, making it hard to created someone wearing a hood over armor.
My favorite comic to read right now has probably been Nova (Sam Alexander) and Guardians of the Galaxy's revamp.....
...so I know the desire.
I'm just not big on the "commando" look.
personally, I'd like to see sets make it to the final five that acomplish these goals:
Appeal to the core sensibilities of a modern superhero universe (in terms of theme)
Not currently represented by a Set (i.e. there's already a "viking-ish" set, we could make a better one, but I'd rather see something NEW first.)
Not "For the Lolz"
Significant individual pieces
Individual pieces expand the combination potential of current costume pieces in an agreeable and diverse way.
That's the philosophy I've been running with, in creating my two sets. and it's definitely the philosophy I'll be using, when it finally comes to us voting.
(post script: it was me, who used the term "European fantasy" to be clear, I would call Game of Thrones "European fantasy", as well as King Arthur and Lord of the Rings..... European Fantasy means plate and chain mail to me. it means kings with crowns and grey beard wizards. I was not referring to HISTORICAL elements of European Feudalism at the end of the Dark Ages. Indeed, that is what makes them "Fantasy", they are some romantic bastardization of the concepts that is a complete fiction. We LACK any sense of authenticity, what we have is "European fantasy")
are the Malvan's the dudes from that one alert event?
meh.
I was thinking of something more like... well, I'd have to dig, but...
Take the 'Rune Armor' set and streamline it down. Like, significantly. Make it into a carapace-type armor. Give the top a 'spiked crest' like the Spartan crest (Spikes instead of the 'hair').
Now the idea is not just the 'armor shell', but add some options to it- like a holographic armor option, OR a floating rune option hovering over it like the holo hex armor does. Except, rather than the armor affect being a seperate piece, it's a part of the actual 'armor' as an option. It could have the 'hologram' effect, the 'rune' effect, or 'none' and just be segmented armor plating. It should be sleek armor, even the helmet.
Ahh...heh, I jumped to a far more...uh... "mass effect" or "deus ex" vibe.
sort of high-tech Imperium from space... but with a Romanesque aesthetic underpinning...
I feel you. I just think that a lot of parts could be used for multiple purposes across the game, depending on the texture/skin slapped across them. One man's scalloped leather armor for his fantasy assassin is another guy's future-tech jumpsuit.
That's kinda why I don't growl at every submission, I look at individual parts and say "I am SO hijacking that".
Oddly enough, I even have a 'Ronin' and 'Gladiator' costume for my munitions character.
I feel you. I just think that a lot of parts could be used for multiple purposes across the game, depending on the texture/skin slapped across them. One man's scalloped leather armor for his fantasy assassin is another guy's future-tech jumpsuit.
That's kinda why I don't growl at every submission, I look at individual parts and say "I am SO hijacking that".
Oddly enough, I even have a 'Ronin' and 'Gladiator' costume for my munitions character.
Heh, one of my characters is from a secret super-science version of Rome, so I've been down this exact road with the tools we have....
Personally, I think I've done quite well... other than her superhero costume, which is a traditional tights look, I think I capture an "evolved roman vibe" pretty well.
Heh, one of my characters is from a secret super-science version of Rome, so I've been down this exact road with the tools we have....
There's a miniatures game called 'Infinity' (not the Disney one) that incorporates hi-tech versions of various cultures. It's not always interpreted in a way that it's obvious, but there are futuristic Arabic, Greek, Anglo-Saxon/French, Celtic, and other cultures in there.
hey Luke, it says your name is Antoniasse. That is an absolutely brilliant name
Huh... Well, is this really a compliment or a joke? Anyways, it's italian, my father's family name, though it should be registered as Antoniassi (pronounced 'nee-AH-see).
I like it a lot, but may I suggest some improvements. The tabard looks too bare, I would have a pattern on it, similar to the one on the shin part of the boots, but upside down. Also, the gems make it resemble other existing pieces, so I suggest making them non-ovoid, possibly octagonal or at least multi-faceted. Finally, is it meant to be asymmetrical, or can either shoulder be armoured?
First of all, thanks for teaching me the name of that thing (tabard). lol
I'm making a few improvements on that art and one of them is putting a pattern on the tabard as you said, while having a few other ideas for maybe a couple more of entries (hope I can finish at least one in time). The gems I'm still deciding whether to follow your suggestion or maintain them that way.
And the shoulders are both armored, I'll add an explanation on the post that the left shoulder is unarmored just for illustrating how the chest piece is without it, thanks for reminding me of that.
I'll let the fantasy discussion for another time and thread, but I still think there are much less options for mystical-themed characters than other themes, especially when speaking of boots. Also, except if I'm mistaken, there is no hips cape for males that are not attached to another piece like the coats and robes (I'll be glad to know if I'm mistaken) and also are not skirts.
But, even though I like the bulkier pieces, I agree that there is also a lack of leaner technological armor pieces, such as the Holo-Hex armor.
I'll let the fantasy discussion for another time and thread, but I still think there are much less options for mystical-themed characters than other themes, especially when speaking of boots. Also, except if I'm mistaken, there is no hips cape for males that are not attached to another piece like the coats and robes (I'll be glad to know if I'm mistaken) and also are not skirts.
But, even though I like the bulkier pieces, I agree that there is also a lack of leaner technological armor pieces, such as the Holo-Hex armor.
I just tinkered around a bit and yeah, you're right. Boots need some beefing up.
Hell, a good set of boots can be used on a lot of character types I have. I personally like shin armor and kneepads on them, but nothing really fits that quite well.
Huh... Well, is this really a compliment or a joke? Anyways, it's italian, my father's family name, though it should be registered as Antoniassi (pronounced 'nee-AH-see).
*snip*
.
compliment, It looks good written and sounds good pronounced. Great for a flourished signature too.
I have a dutch father, so I kinda lost out on the family name part.
friends in high school had family name Impiazza pronounced im pee art za. near identical twins, the difference, a freckle on the white of one eye
Netherealist- the booty pants/shorts for a female shopping are called boy leg cut briefs, they are underwear.
and no every female doesn't have them. males just wish they did http://www.bonds.com.au/hipster-no-show-boyleg.html?gclid=CNicuKn6170CFYZfpQodrFoAlw#80=6779&142=787
on the boots front for the mystic warrior set, why not have a set of top attachements for them, like the U shaped peice. letters, armour, spikes,shapes
so whoever is wearing them, changes it to match their clothes.
modern toons would have modern attachments, fantasy ones have fantasy attachments
(post script: it was me, who used the term "European fantasy" to be clear, I would call Game of Thrones "European fantasy", as well as King Arthur and Lord of the Rings..... European Fantasy means plate and chain mail to me. it means kings with crowns and grey beard wizards. I was not referring to HISTORICAL elements of European Feudalism at the end of the Dark Ages. Indeed, that is what makes them "Fantasy", they are some romantic bastardization of the concepts that is a complete fiction. We LACK any sense of authenticity, what we have is "European fantasy")
You said "European swords and sorcery." Europe has real swords and actual folklore about sorcery (both mostly historical). Yes, this game has lots of D&D "European" fantasy stuff. King Arthur is an actual folktale from England and there are some other variations in other countries, so that is actual European stuff based on historical events (or not). Lord of the Rings is a substitute mythology for England since J RRR Tolkein wanted fairy stuff like the Celts and Germans, but it's not actually set in Europe, historical, or folklore even though it's quite a bit better than Game of Thrones when it comes to relating to actual European history and folklore.
_________________________________________________
"There is a point beyond which there is no return. That point must be reached." - Kafka
Sword & sorcery is a recognized genre of fantasy. It comes in a number of flavors; "European" was specified so as to avoid confusion with samurai ond oni, or Baba Yaga. Clearly, and without much if any thought, "europoean sword & sorcery" is seen to refer to such works as Robert Howard's tales of Conan, or Fritz Lieber's stories of Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser. Tolkien's tales of Middle-Earth belong more to the genre of "high fantasy", which generally has less in the way of flashy magic and superhuman barbarian heroes.
It might actually be interesting to see some costumes that are more reflective of non-European fantasy - something from the mythology of central Africa, say, or India...
"Science teaches us to expect -- demand -- more than just eerie mysteries. What use is a puzzle that can't be solved? Patience is fine, but I'm not going to stop asking the universe to make sense!"
not really sure how litigious Hasbro is, but I could see PWE running into trouble with a couple of these sets.
edit: actually after a quick google it seems Hasbro is pretty quick to sue, even taking on the might of warner bros over Dungeons and Dragons movies. And with TF:U mota coming up I would imagine they will have their eyes on the video game world quite closely
And with TF:U mota coming up I would imagine they will have their eyes on the video game world quite closely
No. You are spreading misinformation and panic.
Transformers IS copyrighted franchise. Names from this franchise as well.
It is also good to avoid certain phrases, like "alt mode" etc, that aren't copyrighted per se, but are associated with the franchise. Or to make lookalikes of well known characters.
But robots changing into vehicles aren't copyrighted.
Never were. Macross, Gundam, old original Diaclone, General Daimos and Go-Bots are few other franchises that were to use this schtick before Transformers.
The closest thing in this concept to anything owned by Hasbro is chest with windshield and intakes...
But the same transformation scheme was also used by one Gundam, Marcoss Valkyrie fighter and Battletech LAM Mechs. This is probably one of the most overused change schemes in this genre. Because it makes roughly humanlike proportions out of jet hull.
On top of that, they way how color channels are assigned on this chestpiece, makes it impossible to color it exactly like Starscrem or Valkyrie chest.
It's kinda like worrying that DC sues Cryptic because we have Nighthawk set, or our heroes can use capes and chest emblems.
Transformers is like Power Rangers, only one IP from the whole genre transplated to US. But just like Power Rangers aren't the only sentai show in existence, TF aren't the only transforming mecha ever produced.
Granted, Vehicle Variable Robot isn't something very in-genre for superhero comic books. But that's my "secondary" submission. The Cosmic Knight is my primary one. For a game based on US superhero genre, CO is in dire need of more Kirbyesque costume parts.
Oh, I'd certainly rename magical cute equine set concept, and recolor it to avoid looking too similar to something.
Sword & sorcery is a recognized genre of fantasy. It comes in a number of flavors; "European" was specified so as to avoid confusion with samurai ond oni, or Baba Yaga.
Last time when I checked, Baba Yaga was part of European folklore. Because of Medieval feudal Russia...
im not spreading panic. i just made a valid comment (this thread is for commenting isnt it?). the fact it was used before doesnt seem to stop hasbro being litigious.
It's a great set. I would love to see it in game. I'm just not sure PWE would take the risk is all i am saying
im not spreading panic. i just made a valid comment (this thread is for commenting isnt it?). the fact it was used before doesnt seem to stop hasbro being litigious.
It's a great set. I would love to see it in game. I'm just not sure PWE would take the risk is all i am saying
I still say it is exaggerated concern considering how many not only mecha series, but also straight TF clones were produced and nothing could be done, because their makers were smart to avoid using named characters. :rolleyes:
There isn't more risk, than it was with releasing totally-not-Batwing planes or totally-not-Jedi AT...
Truth? It looks more like you were trying to cull the competition with fearmongering.
Really, this old returning concern like "because it makes be used to produce clones and produce infringement" should stop, both here and in the suggestions subforums. If it was to be taken seriously, CO would have no costume parts at all, because literally every costume part can be used for producing clones.
Meeda, the one thing that Transformers and several 'Mecha' have that I want to see? A plate across the forehead. Sorta like the 'metal' headband a ninja would wear.
This on the other hand, while also loosely based off of a Hasbro brand, would legitimately rock to get added. Just for the camo armor, really.
I also really don't think copyright will be an issue for that set, either. Whereas pretty magical ponies are pretty distinct (even then I think it could also have a shot at it. The only issue is taking it seriously.), robots with vehicular looks to them aren't specific to Transformers. They actually sort of remind me of Custom Robo's more conservative designs, really.
Comments
I don't know, I think the Firestorm(think that was his name) like one, is on fire in several places in fact
The costumes are great. can we have a sample full helmet to try on Caliga. I won't lock it... promise
I also notice that at the bottom right corner of the items picture is M2014.
if this is copyright/trademark comment and this is what you do at work. Please make sure your boss isn't going to be pissed at you using it here.
and if not post lots more
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
The New Gods called and want their clothes back!
But I love it, good luck!
You're a lunatic with a mad man's dream of a milk proof robot!
___________________________________________________
hey, that one guy looks pretty flamey ;P
honestly, I love the "energy head" option.... could we have ANY mask work with it, though? not just the metal mask.
also "energy eyes" (hollow, glowing eyes sockets) would be neat... not just behind masks but also for that skull head I've wanted to use to make a rider who seems spectre-like in his black spikey leathers :P
Yep, we're going to narrow it down to five finalists. All of them will be both awesome in concept, and ideas we can work with. Trust me, we don't want to get locked into anything we can't deliver.
I'm pretty sure it is perfectly possible to make "empty" geo for head with nothing else, but particle effect. Such head could wear every available head accessory. I'm not sure how about eyes, though.
Of course, there is one issue. It seems that costumes with particle effects like flames can't be recolored in tailor. So flames have fixed hue.
Oh, I found one small mistake in my design.
Tights #1 have 5 colors, instead of only 4 possible (including lines with glow option). Not a great problem. Both hues of blue are close enough to make them into one, if this design was actually used.
"There is a point beyond which there is no return. That point must be reached." - Kafka
[sigpic][/sigpic]
Hope some people like it. Please let me know if it needs further info or if I forgot something.
There's a lot of nice ideas there, I'll try to make some comment soon. I still have at least two more ideas that I hope I can post before the end of the contest, but this is the one I liked most for now.
DoomedLuke at Primus Data Base
And at DeviantArt
Are... we playing the same game? Dark Ages Fantasy, Dark Demon Armor, Ancient Rune Armor, Bone Armor, Dark Fantasy Armor, Demon Knight, Epic Samurai, Shining Knight, Viking Warrior, Wizard/Witch... that's from the C-store and doesn't count the ones from Demonflame/Aftershock (I forget which one) and the stuff from Nemcon and Forum Malvanum.
Tech: Retro Sci-Fi, Cyborg Beast, Hi-Tech, Iron Age, Legacy Power Armor, Power Armor, Robot Samurai, Cyberpunk, Sakura, Tesla, Wired Cyborg. Stuff from Serpent Lantern, that's about it.
I like the shoulder pads. I want more like that that aren't massive and bulky. And... weapons would be nice with all these fantasy sets. And sadly... most of our 'mystical' AND 'tech' armors are a bit on the ... goofy, oversized side of things. I like yours better than anything in the C-Store and would gladly ditch some of them for it.
I think, however, that what is missing isnt so much "fantasy", as (well, like his and my titles suggested) the idea of a legendary, semi-magical warrior...
not necessarily a "knight"
and not necessarily a grey-beard "wizard"
something more in the vein of Nocturne or Scarlet.... magic-ish, or magic-esque... but having some other defining quality about them... (nocturne being all gothy, and scarlet being "fallen angelish")
and we need that sensibility for men and women.
That said, it would also be nice to have some "armored up" looks that don't look absurdly bulky, or very plain.... or very restrictive.
I'm getting kind of tired of sets like Superconductor or Knightwing that, due to (grantedly cool/interesting) qualities of texture, or even omissions, are exceptionally difficult to "mix and match" with.
The whole POINT of the Character creator is it's ability to allow us to make what WE want, with the tools provided.... and having tops and bottoms that ONLY really work well with themselves is counterproductive.
In coming up with designs, I've been trying to avoid personal "pet project" costume designs (things that specific characters of mine would like) and datamine the costume parts we have now, to find out what we're lacking....
a new/better western set would be nice, with hats that don't look like they came from the worlds tackiest dude ranch
sets that capture the various ideas of "galactic heroes" are almost completely absent from the game (apart from old school nova and GL "tights" looks)
you cant really be a Starjammer or a Guardians of the Galaxy (traditional or cinematic) in the game, as it stands (again, apart from a pure-tights look)
similarly, legendary heroes, outside of generic greco-roman, european knight, or samurai/ninja are pretty limited. (the new one-sleeve piece was a big help, but it is SO bulky, its crazy)
there's no real ability, again, to mix and match and make a unique look as a legendary hero (that is to say, you can use these pieces on non-traditional looks to make like... cyber ninja, or steampunk samurai.... but its much harder to make a traditional Japanese hero who isnt generically a samurai or a ninja.)
in the same vein, subtler magical looks are sort of missing.... things like magic girl have helpful pieces, but they fall heavily into the "kitsch" category (that skirt? how are you supposed to integrate that into other looks?!)
and more mercenary tactical looks (or anything befitting the more "cinematic" looks found in recent movies and the Boo52) are pretty slim and lacking in diversity, despite the number of parts devoted to the core concept.
I'd include "non-powered heroes" into the above, too (adventurers like indiana jones and doc savage or hometown vigilante's like casey jones and the huntress)... just as an over-all truth that we're lacking visual markers for less omnipotent character types.
Other than just "more tights patterns" or "more hairstyles" or "non-flying vehicles" I'm not really sure what other avenues of comics haven't gotten a good shake, yet, besides the ones listed above.
Well... look, Viking Warrior doesn't necessarily fit what I'd call "mystic". Besides, look at how many basic tech items there is in the tailor (that don't need to be purchased) and add them to the Z-Store tech sets, and most of them don't have a Cloth or Leather option for materials. To counter them, there is only a few pieces within the basic ones that are "mystic-themed", like Armor Ancient Tech, Arcane Bracers, Long Boot Arcane (which I don't particularly like the design - it would be nice if the points of the edge were only one in front of the boots instead of two in the sides). The Persian set has some nice pieces that fit the theme, but doesn't have boots to match the bracers. Dark Demon doesn't have any costume in it. This way, when I'm creating heroes more mystically-oriented using armor, I end up using Ancient Rune, Bone, Dark Fantasy, Demon Knight or Epic Samurai Armors. They're all awesome sets, but the number of options pale in front of all the options people have when creating high-tech characters.
About my idea, thanks! I thought about including a staff in it, something like Gandalf's staff in the LotR movies for using with Heavy Weapons powerset. I even thought about a powerset based on staff! Something like Neo done in Matrix Reloaded mixed with some powers like some of the Heavy Weapon. And maybe... something to yell "YOU SHALL NOT PASS"... lol
DoomedLuke at Primus Data Base
And at DeviantArt
hey Luke, it says your name is Antoniasse. That is an absolutely brilliant name
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
I like it a lot, but may I suggest some improvements. The tabard looks too bare, I would have a pattern on it, similar to the one on the shin part of the boots, but upside down. Also, the gems make it resemble other existing pieces, so I suggest making them non-ovoid, possibly octagonal or at least multi-faceted. Finally, is it meant to be asymmetrical, or can either shoulder be armoured?
I put a lance/spear in mine... we've got the wizard staff (with the crescent-moon blade on it) already, but we don't have anything that's long and thin, really... just the Scythe, which kinda looks goofy, imo.
You also have to understand, this isn't a fantasy game. It's a superhero game set in a modern-ish setting with advanced super-tech. To be fair, I do like your entry, but when people say that CO has neglected Mystic themes, I roll my eyes- it's nice to have some, but the game is already over-saturated with this stuff, in my opinion. Especially when you consider the plethora of other fantasy/mystical games out there, and the overwhelming lack of Sci-fi games.
Not even Greco-Roman. Just Greco. CO has no Roman parts save for one (unavailable since On Alert) sword model.
All costume parts in Spartan set are specifically lousy Greek ones an you can't be Roman, unless you are going for only tunic and sandals.
CoH had nice "romanish" set including chestpiece and helmet.
But then, CoH had shields and Roman set without scutum... Just doesn't work.
I stick by the "greco-roman" moniker, though... as the clothing does fit both cultures, it's just not as strongly, iconically, roman. (though I didn't realize the gladius had been removed/lost)
sort of a flawed argument, there, Cyber...
I mean, this isn't a sci-fi game either.. and there are plenty of those available too, even if it isnt "as much" as the fantasy ones. (and, perhaps that is the market speaking and saying that there is a greater DEMAND for fantasy aesthetics....and such things should be considered)
the bald truth, though, is that superheroes blend the lines between many disciplines, and there are elements of mythology, fantasy, western, mystery, adventure, espionage, science fiction and science fantasy throughout the universes we accept as "super heroic"
Superheroes, individually, often bridge that same divide... having elements of super science and magic in the same aesthetic and even power suite. MOST super powers involve some sort of hand-waiving, even the more mundane ones.
there are tons of armored up/techy options, in the game already
AND ALSO
there are tons of fantasy/magical options, in the game already.
we don't lack in quantity, we lack in aesthetic style.
nearly all tech-gear comes in two varieties: Iron man or Tech Assassin (three, if you want to count steampunk in there)
likewise, nearly all "fantasy" gear seems to fall into the "european swords and sorcery" category.
Both you and we see that this is a very narrow and ultimately limiting view of our perspective "camps", and really want to see more diversity in STYLE.
it's not that one side or the other is under-represented in the "number of pieces"...
BOTH sides are under-represented in the TYPES of aesthetic options available.
I almost compiled a list of all the 'sci-fi' characters. Just to name a few (very important) ones- Guardians of the Galaxy, Adam Strange, the list goes on and on. It is very, very common in comics for the characters to utilize technology that is above the standard 'contemporary'. Sophisticated technology, like that seen produced by Stark, Luthor, and other characters is commonplace in comics. Some of the earliest comics were in fact, science fiction.
Personally, I think if there's a 'demand' for fantasy aesthetics... then I would gladly direct the players to the link to Neverwinter or any of the other fantasy games out there. I'm not opposed to the addition of them, but IMHO too much of this 'Western Superhero Game' is saturated with demons, wizards, etc- hell, even the final map takes a hero that has battled giant mutants, robot armies, and super-powered monsters and reduces him to playing Buffy the Vampire slayer.
And see, here is where we agree completely. I take a look at most of the 'tech' parts in this game and it's either 'bug bulky mech armor' or 'cheesy sci-fi tech'. These are things that have been outdated for years. Sleek, advanced, and more practical science fiction-ish tech has been fairly ignored by the game.
I don't count steampunk as 'tech'. While I think it's fine and good and fun on its own, when someone uses steampunk in a modern or advanced setting, I can't help but wonder if they're intentionally playing an idiot that is just being stubborn.
Or worse- anime. I realize that a lot of people love anime, but it's not anything that belongs in Western Superhero settings. Sure, a few elements (I'd be happy if they took some of the artistic inspiration from their mecha and actual armor), but if people want anime games there are literally tons of them out there.
I'm a highly opinionated person. And to be quite honest, I'm happy with the new Sci-Fi Soldier armor... but I'm a bit sick of things that don't fit the setting (like Victorian Era costumes...?) or things that are just too silly.
And not to detract from whoever mentioned the 'everyday items' weapons, but to be fair- this game is lacking already in actual weapons. I'd rather see them beef up the selection that has been cut off since On Alert with more functional weapons than packing this game full of even more silliness.
If I wanted to get hit with a frying pan, I'd marry my ex (She was OP, needs to be nerfed, completely went right through my Damage Resistance and Dodge).
SOLUTION I PROPOSE:
Weapons are one of the things that irk me in CO- we can get some of the coolest weapons in the game gutted (Redeye pistols, Tech Sword) but yet we get silly items (Ping Pong Gun, Trout Sword). I have been pleading for 'weapons packs'. A 'fantasy', 'alien', 'tech', 'tactical', and 'antique' weapons packs would be very, very welcome.
Additionally, you're a good artist. I have an idea for something that could accomodate BOTH of our tastes.
'Malvan Praetorian Guard'. Romanesque, with just enough 'fantasy' and 'sci-fi' to make us both squeal like little girls.
And you better squeal.
I almost think that chest piece is worth it for the whole outfit though the suit itself seems...basic? Not sure of the proper way to describe it.
-Sterga
I'm hoping they honestly start putting emblems on more places. I'd like a simple, non Warhammer 40k shoulder plate with a logo.
"Large Emblems"
sort of like the steelhawk emblem, but moreso, and even bigger (like whole-chest-sized)
have big V's and Triangles and Shields and Diamonds and Stars (even bigger than one guys currently get, or at least an equally large one for female models)
and have them be either with or without traditional emblems inside, as an options.
Give them all that same level of "weight", like you're wearing something solid.
OH, and then include "weightless" versions, like the current emblems are, and have them hug the form of the character....almost like....
Yeah, make them function almost like a second "tights pattern" layer that can be worn over top of the normal ones
with options of super-sized versions of the current emblems, as well as some basic shapes (the v's and diamonds and crosses like above)
As a package deal of a the "system' of these larger emblems, it would be awesome.
but I don't know if I'd vote for a brand new costume set, just to get one of them :-/
Best part of this idea is...
It could be both historical and space/fantasy.
CO model parts have details defined by normalmaps, not by polygons. So it might be possible to take this:
http://www.zinnfigur.com/images/8/1/894_MCF54041.JPG
And then made every part of the costume with two detail maps. One geometric/runic/fantasy, second one historical.
Switching between options would be as simple as switching between patterns in tailor.
Hmm...
This is Champions Online. Anything fits the setting. I like to have my eldritch abomination with some Persian clothing and skulls fighting robot pirates and aristocrat vampire Eastern mystical warriors. I also like to see all the different characters people make up. I mean, there are fantasy heroes that have nothing to do with sci-fi, like Dr. Strange and Thor. Superheroes are whatever people want, pretty much.
And no, there really isn't enough "European swords and sorcery" to whoever said that because the only knight costume we have has a Fleur on the front of it, our Rapier has a bigger handle than the longsword, the sceptre also has a Fleur, we can have an Iron Cross as a brooch but not an emblem, we don't have falcon, eagle, stag etc. heraldry emblems, only modern-looking ones and this lion shield. I mean, the tunic doesn't have any emblems except some lines and card suites, and there are no tights with a tunic over chain mail for me to have an emblem on. I have hardly started on the list. There are American swords and sorcery, not European...
"There is a point beyond which there is no return. That point must be reached." - Kafka
[sigpic][/sigpic]
^This. And thousand times this.
We have only few costumes and weapons that can be called (more or less) European fantasy.
1-The Shining Knight set and its evilized version with spikes. These are only armor sets actualy having (albeit simplified) functional real platemail scheme.
2-The Spartan set (if you going as far as Antiquity), which is also (albeit understandably simplified, because of the game requirements) Greek hoplite (but then, it has also strange female chestpiece made with exposed midriff, instead of just mirroring male piece). It also doesn't has the most common Greek body armor, a linothorax type. But it's not a big deal, since simplified linothorax can be made in a faily accurate way with use of existing costume parts.
3 - Gladius sword model, which is TERRIBLY oversized and should be rescaled down. Unavailable since On Alert.
4 - Falcata/Makhaira/Kopis sword model, which is also ridiculously oversized and also needs to be rescaled.
Both falcata and gladius should be no longer than 2/3 of a longsword, at best. Also unavailable since On Alert.
5 - Longsword, which is about the only good looking straight blade in the game. As simplified as it is, it is a good representation of a langschwert.
6 - Viking set which is complete fantasy, BUT thankfully it includes a quite detailed and proper model of an early Medieval ridge helmet.
7 - Rapier sword from Dark Fantasy set, though its handle and guard are a bit oversized.
And that's all. The rest is completely high fantasy, with no connection to any European or Asian culture. So-called Dark Fantasy also has nothing to do with Dark Age or dark fantasy. It's faily generic Dungeons & Dragons set, and D&D since 3ed lost their historical inspirations in visual designs.
this has no weapons in but does have costumes for males and females from egypt through to mid 19th century.
I actually rang the publisher to see if hey still had a copy(out of print), got the search their stores and when they found they didn 't have any , asked permission to photocopy the entire book.
It has clothing from egypt through to mid 19th century
for example 11th century
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
are the Malvan's the dudes from that one alert event?
meh.
but a Romanesque set that bleeds the line between history and future might be cool.
and for the record, I have not been a diehard proponent of "more fantasy NEOW".... my first costume suggestion was for a guardians/battlestar-meets-superheroes type look
http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=4082561&postcount=6
http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=4082561&postcount=7
(page one, ugly colors, cause I was trying to match default colors)
My favorite comic to read right now has probably been Nova (Sam Alexander) and Guardians of the Galaxy's revamp.....
...so I know the desire.
I'm just not big on the "commando" look.
personally, I'd like to see sets make it to the final five that acomplish these goals:
Appeal to the core sensibilities of a modern superhero universe (in terms of theme)
Not currently represented by a Set (i.e. there's already a "viking-ish" set, we could make a better one, but I'd rather see something NEW first.)
Not "For the Lolz"
Significant individual pieces
Individual pieces expand the combination potential of current costume pieces in an agreeable and diverse way.
That's the philosophy I've been running with, in creating my two sets. and it's definitely the philosophy I'll be using, when it finally comes to us voting.
(post script: it was me, who used the term "European fantasy" to be clear, I would call Game of Thrones "European fantasy", as well as King Arthur and Lord of the Rings..... European Fantasy means plate and chain mail to me. it means kings with crowns and grey beard wizards. I was not referring to HISTORICAL elements of European Feudalism at the end of the Dark Ages. Indeed, that is what makes them "Fantasy", they are some romantic bastardization of the concepts that is a complete fiction. We LACK any sense of authenticity, what we have is "European fantasy")
I was thinking of something more like... well, I'd have to dig, but...
Take the 'Rune Armor' set and streamline it down. Like, significantly. Make it into a carapace-type armor. Give the top a 'spiked crest' like the Spartan crest (Spikes instead of the 'hair').
Now the idea is not just the 'armor shell', but add some options to it- like a holographic armor option, OR a floating rune option hovering over it like the holo hex armor does. Except, rather than the armor affect being a seperate piece, it's a part of the actual 'armor' as an option. It could have the 'hologram' effect, the 'rune' effect, or 'none' and just be segmented armor plating. It should be sleek armor, even the helmet.
I'll dig and see what I can find.
Crest: http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090726021509/paragon/images/5/51/Roman_crest_5.JPG
Armor on this dude's arm: http://www.cosplayhouse.com/images/P/APF0508.jpg
Something like this for the hips: http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n62/rook3/ODST/myodst42.jpg
Face wear like so: http://www.jkentr.com/parhelionlegion/allods/Arisen%20Dudes.gif
And to top it off, a try Roman-esque helm with forehead plating and flared neck plating.
sort of high-tech Imperium from space... but with a Romanesque aesthetic underpinning...
I feel you. I just think that a lot of parts could be used for multiple purposes across the game, depending on the texture/skin slapped across them. One man's scalloped leather armor for his fantasy assassin is another guy's future-tech jumpsuit.
That's kinda why I don't growl at every submission, I look at individual parts and say "I am SO hijacking that".
Oddly enough, I even have a 'Ronin' and 'Gladiator' costume for my munitions character.
I like the mask...i think? hard to tell exactly what's going on in the gif.
leg pads seem kinda dull, but with detailing they'd be fine.
hate the spiked crest, imo looks dumb.
Heh, one of my characters is from a secret super-science version of Rome, so I've been down this exact road with the tools we have....
Personally, I think I've done quite well... other than her superhero costume, which is a traditional tights look, I think I capture an "evolved roman vibe" pretty well.
There's a miniatures game called 'Infinity' (not the Disney one) that incorporates hi-tech versions of various cultures. It's not always interpreted in a way that it's obvious, but there are futuristic Arabic, Greek, Anglo-Saxon/French, Celtic, and other cultures in there.
Huh... Well, is this really a compliment or a joke? Anyways, it's italian, my father's family name, though it should be registered as Antoniassi (pronounced 'nee-AH-see).
First of all, thanks for teaching me the name of that thing (tabard). lol
I'm making a few improvements on that art and one of them is putting a pattern on the tabard as you said, while having a few other ideas for maybe a couple more of entries (hope I can finish at least one in time). The gems I'm still deciding whether to follow your suggestion or maintain them that way.
And the shoulders are both armored, I'll add an explanation on the post that the left shoulder is unarmored just for illustrating how the chest piece is without it, thanks for reminding me of that.
I'll let the fantasy discussion for another time and thread, but I still think there are much less options for mystical-themed characters than other themes, especially when speaking of boots. Also, except if I'm mistaken, there is no hips cape for males that are not attached to another piece like the coats and robes (I'll be glad to know if I'm mistaken) and also are not skirts.
But, even though I like the bulkier pieces, I agree that there is also a lack of leaner technological armor pieces, such as the Holo-Hex armor.
DoomedLuke at Primus Data Base
And at DeviantArt
I just tinkered around a bit and yeah, you're right. Boots need some beefing up.
Hell, a good set of boots can be used on a lot of character types I have. I personally like shin armor and kneepads on them, but nothing really fits that quite well.
compliment, It looks good written and sounds good pronounced. Great for a flourished signature too.
I have a dutch father, so I kinda lost out on the family name part.
friends in high school had family name Impiazza pronounced im pee art za. near identical twins, the difference, a freckle on the white of one eye
Netherealist- the booty pants/shorts for a female shopping are called boy leg cut briefs, they are underwear.
and no every female doesn't have them. males just wish they did
http://www.bonds.com.au/hipster-no-show-boyleg.html?gclid=CNicuKn6170CFYZfpQodrFoAlw#80=6779&142=787
on the boots front for the mystic warrior set, why not have a set of top attachements for them, like the U shaped peice. letters, armour, spikes,shapes
so whoever is wearing them, changes it to match their clothes.
modern toons would have modern attachments, fantasy ones have fantasy attachments
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
You said "European swords and sorcery." Europe has real swords and actual folklore about sorcery (both mostly historical). Yes, this game has lots of D&D "European" fantasy stuff. King Arthur is an actual folktale from England and there are some other variations in other countries, so that is actual European stuff based on historical events (or not). Lord of the Rings is a substitute mythology for England since J RRR Tolkein wanted fairy stuff like the Celts and Germans, but it's not actually set in Europe, historical, or folklore even though it's quite a bit better than Game of Thrones when it comes to relating to actual European history and folklore.
"There is a point beyond which there is no return. That point must be reached." - Kafka
[sigpic][/sigpic]
It might actually be interesting to see some costumes that are more reflective of non-European fantasy - something from the mythology of central Africa, say, or India...
- David Brin, "Those Eyes"
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
I can dig it.
There are just some things that...
The artwork is awesome. I will say that.
But just...
No.
edit: actually after a quick google it seems Hasbro is pretty quick to sue, even taking on the might of warner bros over Dungeons and Dragons movies. And with TF:U mota coming up I would imagine they will have their eyes on the video game world quite closely
@Liath | My PRIMUS Page | Altaholics | New Vehicle Models | New Emblems | Flag Tights
Asterelle's Forum Enhancement Extension | Game Side Panel Add-In | Game Server Status Add-In
No. You are spreading misinformation and panic.
Transformers IS copyrighted franchise. Names from this franchise as well.
It is also good to avoid certain phrases, like "alt mode" etc, that aren't copyrighted per se, but are associated with the franchise. Or to make lookalikes of well known characters.
But robots changing into vehicles aren't copyrighted.
Never were. Macross, Gundam, old original Diaclone, General Daimos and Go-Bots are few other franchises that were to use this schtick before Transformers.
The closest thing in this concept to anything owned by Hasbro is chest with windshield and intakes...
But the same transformation scheme was also used by one Gundam, Marcoss Valkyrie fighter and Battletech LAM Mechs. This is probably one of the most overused change schemes in this genre. Because it makes roughly humanlike proportions out of jet hull.
Like this one...
Or even more...
The same goes for blocky forearms and thigs.
On top of that, they way how color channels are assigned on this chestpiece, makes it impossible to color it exactly like Starscrem or Valkyrie chest.
It's kinda like worrying that DC sues Cryptic because we have Nighthawk set, or our heroes can use capes and chest emblems.
Transformers is like Power Rangers, only one IP from the whole genre transplated to US. But just like Power Rangers aren't the only sentai show in existence, TF aren't the only transforming mecha ever produced.
Granted, Vehicle Variable Robot isn't something very in-genre for superhero comic books. But that's my "secondary" submission. The Cosmic Knight is my primary one. For a game based on US superhero genre, CO is in dire need of more Kirbyesque costume parts.
Oh, I'd certainly rename magical cute equine set concept, and recolor it to avoid looking too similar to something.
Also:
Last time when I checked, Baba Yaga was part of European folklore. Because of Medieval feudal Russia...
It's a great set. I would love to see it in game. I'm just not sure PWE would take the risk is all i am saying
@Liath | My PRIMUS Page | Altaholics | New Vehicle Models | New Emblems | Flag Tights
Asterelle's Forum Enhancement Extension | Game Side Panel Add-In | Game Server Status Add-In
I still say it is exaggerated concern considering how many not only mecha series, but also straight TF clones were produced and nothing could be done, because their makers were smart to avoid using named characters. :rolleyes:
There isn't more risk, than it was with releasing totally-not-Batwing planes or totally-not-Jedi AT...
Truth? It looks more like you were trying to cull the competition with fearmongering.
Really, this old returning concern like "because it makes be used to produce clones and produce infringement" should stop, both here and in the suggestions subforums. If it was to be taken seriously, CO would have no costume parts at all, because literally every costume part can be used for producing clones.
Morbid curiosity just wants me to see the devs actually consider it, just to see how horribly it will go through with votes.
Actually morbid curiosity would also be ok with it going through, just to see what other weird fetishised things players come up with.
This on the other hand, while also loosely based off of a Hasbro brand, would legitimately rock to get added. Just for the camo armor, really.
I also really don't think copyright will be an issue for that set, either. Whereas pretty magical ponies are pretty distinct (even then I think it could also have a shot at it. The only issue is taking it seriously.), robots with vehicular looks to them aren't specific to Transformers. They actually sort of remind me of Custom Robo's more conservative designs, really.