This build is scheduled to hit PTS at 6:30pm PDT, 4/8/2014
Release Notes for FC.31.20140303.15:
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We have added the Sci-Fi Soldier costume to the Debugger
Bug Fixes
90s Foxbat Cape now works properly with Cape Glide
Release Notes for FC.31.20140303.16:
Preview
The Sci-Fi Soldier costume set is now available for female characters
The Sci-Fi Soldier chin guard is now a Side Accessory
The Sci-Fi Soldier collar is now a Collar
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The Scifi Soldier gloves and tights don't have material options, but the other parts do.
Character creation
Create a character, use the part search tool to apply the parts.
Some parts seem to default to different materials, too. The chest and hips were cloth, while the neck, shoulder, and feet were metal. Edit: It turns out that this only happens if I have a part from that category already. It will keep the same material as the previous part.
The feet part looks kind of like it's short pants with long socks. Could you maybe extend the upper plate into a shinguard, and make the ribbing on the calf/ankle horizontal, to match the gloves?
Looks pretty good. Do the tights only appear in cloth? No metal tights? Also, I like the fact that the Devs made an emblem attachment for the armor. Awesome.
Scifi Soldier Chin Guard
Being a Head Wear part, players wouldn't be able to use other head wear that looks like it could work with. Would it be too much trouble to add a new Head Wear subcategory? So it works with every head wear piece? Being able to use hats with this would be a major plus.
Scifi Soldier Collar
Shouldn't this be in the collar category in the Head section?
Scifi Soldier Shoulder Pads
Playing around with the tailor I noticed that we can now have Shoulder Pads and Bracers with the Jackets category. Thank you! Please expand on this more whenever you can since its seems not all bracers are attached to it yet.
Scifi Soldier Chest
I'm glad that emblems can be used on the chest piece too. We would like all chest pieces to do this too, eventually.
Can the third color on all these pieces have a glow option too? It seems that it would work very well.
The gloves have really good synergy with the Deco (Qularr) forearm, Cybernetic Elbow, and all those shield type parts.
The whole set seems to scale pretty well, which has sometimes been an issue with some costumes that have come out in 2013, like the gladiator and Socrates chest armor parts. I should probably check the ankle. That's a trouble area, sometimes. Edit: I didn't find clipping anywhere, even with weird body proportions.
I don't like the way that it seems to end in what comes across as a cuff, rather high on the arm. It's very obvious on the picture above. Same with the boot.
Scifi Soldier Chin Guard
Being a Head Wear part, players wouldn't be able to use other head wear that looks like it could work with. Would it be too much trouble to add a new Head Wear subcategory? So it works with every head wear piece? Being able to use hats with this would be a major plus.
How about the side or mouth slots? It might not work with hats because it would be very similar to using partial masks with a hat. The only differences would be the neck, face detail options, and vent/intake on the side.
While the costume set looks nice, I REALLY hope you're working on a female set as well. It kinda upsets me to see something like this restricted to one gender only...
Tech Sword, Shellie Pistol, Jackhammer rifle/SMG.... just saying, guys.
Also, if you want us to test costumes accurately, we need to be able to access the costumes we've already unlocked. People rarely use a whole set, it's all about how we combine it with others.
While the costume set looks nice, I REALLY hope you're working on a female set as well. It kinda upsets me to see something like this restricted to one gender only...
There was a time, I dunno... a little over a month ago, maybe? Where I said 'watch them start doing gender-specific costumes. Watch the outrage when it happens and it's a male-only costume'. And people told me I was full of it. Let's hope this isn't the case.
Not unless they unlock the collar for all head options.
I could rock with this. Kinda like the Archer? (I had to check that one)
Also...
None of those weapons could make their way into this costume pack, by chance? Just asking because we keep neglecting munitions weapons.... with the exception of the Foxbat gun which is... yeah...
First of all, I love this costume set. It ties in nicely with the 90s Foxbat sets, and I'm guessing will compliment the 90s set as well. That said, I've got to echo a few concerns voiced earlier, by other players.
1.) The chinguard piece should be under the side bits so that our scifi soldiers can protect their heads with a nice helmet. Having a helmet as part of the set would have been a nice edition too...but I'm comfortable with that part as is.
2.) Emblems on the PTS are fairly limited, I would recommend double checking that all emblems are unlocked with the chest piece, so that scifi adventurers can use the scifi emblems.
3.) Guns, guns, guns. A solider set should really have a hip holster, a rifle or shotgun strapped across its back, and some munitions models to match. Please consider either putting the now unavailable anime weapon set in the pack (which was previously available via power replacers) or just releasing some of the costume bits shown in this thread so far.
4.) This set should be available to both genders.
Those issues aside, I love this new costume set. It already has me considering new hero concepts, and thats a win/win situation for you devs. The new collar is particularly awesome.
The SciFi Soldier costume set is awesome! Why not consider adding a "Space Marine" type AT to the C-store to compliment it? I imagine a simple Pulse Beam rifle build with utilitarian powers like Bionic Shielding and Concentration to compliment it.
No build expert here, just tossing in the suggestion! Might be a good money--making opportunity without having to spend tons of development time.
Keep on adding stuff... love the additions so far!
I'm playing the typical CO gamer's card here on this one. 'I don't care if they make a female version or not, it won't affect me'. But, after what I've seen in zone and on this forum, might wanna make a female version or you might be looking at a class 7 Manchild Meltdown.
Scifi Soldier Chin Guard
Being a Head Wear part, players wouldn't be able to use other head wear that looks like it could work with. Would it be too much trouble to add a new Head Wear subcategory? So it works with every head wear piece? Being able to use hats with this would be a major plus.
i agree side accessories is a better place for this
absolutely not, to put it with collars it would limit options more, its fine in neck just like lemurian collar or large nephilam
If they mean the short hair and collars option then yes I agree it would be too limiting, but I'm pretty sure they mean the collars category that appeared with the archer set, in which case yes, it needs to be there.
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Gar, can we get some weapons with this one? Please? I will or will not send you pictures of me dressed in a thong, depending on whether this is something you do or do not want to see.
Also, is this a C-store costume for tomorrow? Inquiring minds want to know.
We seem to be missing Arm Accessories to match the leg accessory "thigh shields". something similar but to smaller scale would help tie the gloves to the body more.
Additionally glove and boot variations with those same plates would be a great extra for the set.
And definitely needs a helm of some sort. with all that protection a naked scalp seems a bit of a "shoot me right here" - not great for a soldier. Something like the kendrium fleet helm seems to work from the front in terms of styling but with a solid skull cap area and without the extended ridge out of the rear of the head.
Edit: Something like this maybe?
I also think it would be great if the irridescent material was added to this set. This could allow better mix and match with the existing retro sci fi set and promote cross purchasing.
finally and keeping with the sci fi theme - how about 2 and 3 fingered glove options for those wanting to use this as alien armor
Oh, phew, thank goodness. This set feels like it'd be perfect to upgrade a beloved Power Armor character of mine, but having a full helm is critical to his suit. I'd love to use that collar in addition to the helm, so this is a very pleasing development.
Oh, phew, thank goodness. This set feels like it'd be perfect to upgrade a beloved Power Armor character of mine, but having a full helm is critical to his suit. I'd love to use that collar in addition to the helm, so this is a very pleasing development.
What helmet? If it's available, I'll see if I can snag you a shot on PTS.
I had a good look at it and I feel that it needs a bit more work done to it. Give it more detail I think it needs that real very high-tech feel.
The Chin guard and Collar could do with some more fine detail.
Also the gloves and feet chuold do with a bit more work as well I don't seem to enjoy the detail that's got them lines all-over them a choice to pick between smooth and lined whuold be nice.
Oh and the feet for the females need to be hi-heels!. I need good looking hi-heel boots. and about the weapons yeah we need some to come with this set.
Also the chest attachments chuold have more things like the other set that has this choice like maybe small parts of the chest like radios or vents you kown techy stuff. Not just a slap-on emblem.
well this bacily how I feel about it.
But yeah really chuold do with more detail and more options to it.
Also the chest attachments chuold have more things like the other set that has this choice like maybe small parts of the chest like radios or vents you kown techy stuff. Not just a slap-on emblem.
The fact that they have added the emblem flush on the piece as an option is AWESOME! It's a much better idea than the alternate "iron man" circle with emblem that's super small inside. I hope to see this applied to all chest wear in the future.
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What helmet? If it's available, I'll see if I can snag you a shot on PTS.
Oh, it's one of the tech helms. The one that has the Y-shaped visor. Coupled with the knight's top crest and the smooth tech ventilator.
I'll probably hop onto the PTS at some point myself to see this new costume set in action at some point.
Could we get the shoulder pads increased in size somewhat? They seem kind of underwhelming compared to the rest of the set. I'd also be amenable to having two different sizes of shoulder pads.
Bug: You can't change the material type for both gloves at once. You have to do them individually.
Could we get the shoulder pads increased in size somewhat? They seem kind of underwhelming compared to the rest of the set. I'd also be amenable to having two different sizes of shoulder pads.
I'd like for the ones we have to be on the 'side' rather than on top, if we're going to make the actual shoulder pads bigger.
Not a slam on you, but I don't like how the majority of shoulderpads in this game make my character look like a DBZ reject.
In addition, I think it's probably best to throw in some weapons with this pack. It's kind of pointless to make a 'Soldier' costume that is really just a set of armor. The game currently lacks weapon models in all categories since On Alert. I advise bringing back some of the originals, or making new ones.
Just tested out the new costume. Absolutely love it; the thing looks awesome!
However, couple of issues.
First, the tights look like they're intended to have glow, as they have the same lights on them as the armor pieces. However, no glow options are present.
Second, there is a major lack of matching arm accessories for the leg accessory thigh armor. This really detracts from any attempts to make a "fully armored" look that matches.
We seem to be missing Arm Accessories to match the leg accessory "thigh shields". something similar but to smaller scale would help tie the gloves to the body more.
Additionally glove and boot variations with those same plates would be a great extra for the set.
--snip--
*cough*
Also I was thinking about the gun options - how about a sci fi version of the gunblade
This model would be used for single and dual pistol powers, and also for single and dual sword powers. (red areas = glow points)
A rifle/axe version could be included for rifle powers and HW
Just tested out the new costume. Absolutely love it; the thing looks awesome!
However, couple of issues.
First, the tights look like they're intended to have glow, as they have the same lights on them as the armor pieces. However, no glow options are present.
Second, there is a major lack of matching arm accessories for the leg accessory thigh armor. This really detracts from any attempts to make a "fully armored" look that matches.
I had the same thoughts, too.
Also, as someone mentioned before in this thread, the boot pieces have the unfortunate effect of looking somewhat like heavily armored socks because of the vertical fluting along their length. I'd recommend either change the fluting to horizontal, or remove it altogether and make that area of the boot armor smooth.
Basically I'm echoing the sentiments expressed by others when I say this costume set is pretty awesome. I just tried it with Mentella, I didn't go heavy armor plating alongside it as I thought the pattern looked nice without the armor blocking it out.
(Just threw together a few different colours for experimentation for possible future costumes)
I'm not so keen on the auto-almost bracers for the gloves, but it's tolerable.
Just tested out the new costume. Absolutely love it; the thing looks awesome!
However, couple of issues.
First, the tights look like they're intended to have glow, as they have the same lights on them as the armor pieces. However, no glow options are present.
Second, there is a major lack of matching arm accessories for the leg accessory thigh armor. This really detracts from any attempts to make a "fully armored" look that matches.
I had the same thoughts, too.
Also, as someone mentioned before in this thread, the boot pieces have the unfortunate effect of looking somewhat like heavily armored socks because of the vertical fluting along their length. I'd recommend either change the fluting to horizontal, or remove it altogether and make that area of the boot armor smooth.
+1'd for both of these comments too.
Aside from that, it's a very nice addition!
EDIT: Has it been mentioned where this costume set will be dropping from/purchasable from?
I seriously need this set in my life as soon as possible.
Also, has anyone asked/has it been specified, but is this for a Z-Store set? Or a lockbox one? I feel like it's more of a store-bound set.
The sci-fi soldier chest emblem positioning/size is off - most emblems are slightly cut off at the top.
I've been waiting for a chinstrap as a mouth accessory for a while, but I'd prefer one that comes with less extra geometry. The part that wraps around the back of the head keeps it from working with most helmets without serious clipping, and even the extra cheek guards seem unnecessary. At the very least it needs a helmet to go with it, but I'd prefer if new set pieces were designed to integrate better existing sets.
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Also I was thinking about the gun options - how about a sci fi version of the gunblade
This model would be used for single and dual pistol powers, and also for single and dual sword powers. (red areas = glow points)
A rifle/axe version could be included for rifle powers and HW
All of the this. Gunblades where a wasted opprotunity, they could have easily been Melee weapons as well as pistols. A large chunk of specialist AT's would LOVE to have this.
On an unrelated note; would someone be willing to take a screencap of just the Scifi soldier chestpiece? preferably on a robot torso if you can.
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Character creation
Create a character, use the part search tool to apply the parts.
Some parts seem to default to different materials, too. The chest and hips were cloth, while the neck, shoulder, and feet were metal. Edit: It turns out that this only happens if I have a part from that category already. It will keep the same material as the previous part.
The feet part looks kind of like it's short pants with long socks. Could you maybe extend the upper plate into a shinguard, and make the ribbing on the calf/ankle horizontal, to match the gloves?
There is no female version. Will there be one?
Looks pretty good. Do the tights only appear in cloth? No metal tights? Also, I like the fact that the Devs made an emblem attachment for the armor. Awesome.
Being a Head Wear part, players wouldn't be able to use other head wear that looks like it could work with. Would it be too much trouble to add a new Head Wear subcategory? So it works with every head wear piece? Being able to use hats with this would be a major plus.
Scifi Soldier Collar
Shouldn't this be in the collar category in the Head section?
Scifi Soldier Shoulder Pads
Playing around with the tailor I noticed that we can now have Shoulder Pads and Bracers with the Jackets category. Thank you! Please expand on this more whenever you can since its seems not all bracers are attached to it yet.
Scifi Soldier Chest
I'm glad that emblems can be used on the chest piece too. We would like all chest pieces to do this too, eventually.
Can the third color on all these pieces have a glow option too? It seems that it would work very well.
The whole set seems to scale pretty well, which has sometimes been an issue with some costumes that have come out in 2013, like the gladiator and Socrates chest armor parts. I should probably check the ankle. That's a trouble area, sometimes. Edit: I didn't find clipping anywhere, even with weird body proportions.
I don't like the way that it seems to end in what comes across as a cuff, rather high on the arm. It's very obvious on the picture above. Same with the boot.
How about the side or mouth slots? It might not work with hats because it would be very similar to using partial masks with a hat. The only differences would be the neck, face detail options, and vent/intake on the side.
If anything put it in Side but not in mouth piece.
...went and made one for you... and here you go, doing cool stuff without my permission.
DO IT MORE OFTEN!
Thanks. Seems like a wasted opportunity.
Unless, you know...
Tech Sword, Shellie Pistol, Jackhammer rifle/SMG.... just saying, guys.
Also, if you want us to test costumes accurately, we need to be able to access the costumes we've already unlocked. People rarely use a whole set, it's all about how we combine it with others.
There was a time, I dunno... a little over a month ago, maybe? Where I said 'watch them start doing gender-specific costumes. Watch the outrage when it happens and it's a male-only costume'. And people told me I was full of it. Let's hope this isn't the case.
Except that doing so cancels out a TON of costume options. Please leave this where it is.
Not unless they unlock the collar for all head options.
I could rock with this. Kinda like the Archer? (I had to check that one)
Also...
None of those weapons could make their way into this costume pack, by chance? Just asking because we keep neglecting munitions weapons.... with the exception of the Foxbat gun which is... yeah...
Girls got the Magical Girl set. Boys get the Scifi Soldier set. Eh?
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1.) The chinguard piece should be under the side bits so that our scifi soldiers can protect their heads with a nice helmet. Having a helmet as part of the set would have been a nice edition too...but I'm comfortable with that part as is.
2.) Emblems on the PTS are fairly limited, I would recommend double checking that all emblems are unlocked with the chest piece, so that scifi adventurers can use the scifi emblems.
3.) Guns, guns, guns. A solider set should really have a hip holster, a rifle or shotgun strapped across its back, and some munitions models to match. Please consider either putting the now unavailable anime weapon set in the pack (which was previously available via power replacers) or just releasing some of the costume bits shown in this thread so far.
4.) This set should be available to both genders.
Those issues aside, I love this new costume set. It already has me considering new hero concepts, and thats a win/win situation for you devs. The new collar is particularly awesome.
Y U not ask for Magical Boys. o3o
Thanks for listening, can't wait until this hits live!
The SciFi Soldier costume set is awesome! Why not consider adding a "Space Marine" type AT to the C-store to compliment it? I imagine a simple Pulse Beam rifle build with utilitarian powers like Bionic Shielding and Concentration to compliment it.
No build expert here, just tossing in the suggestion! Might be a good money--making opportunity without having to spend tons of development time.
Keep on adding stuff... love the additions so far!
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I'm playing the typical CO gamer's card here on this one. 'I don't care if they make a female version or not, it won't affect me'. But, after what I've seen in zone and on this forum, might wanna make a female version or you might be looking at a class 7 Manchild Meltdown.
absolutely not, to put it with collars it would limit options more, its fine in neck just like lemurian collar or large nephilam
Except those two pieces aren't usable with chest wear... so, no.
If they mean the short hair and collars option then yes I agree it would be too limiting, but I'm pretty sure they mean the collars category that appeared with the archer set, in which case yes, it needs to be there.
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Release Notes for FC.31.20140303.16:
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Gar, can we get some weapons with this one? Please? I will or will not send you pictures of me dressed in a thong, depending on whether this is something you do or do not want to see.
Also, is this a C-store costume for tomorrow? Inquiring minds want to know.
Additionally glove and boot variations with those same plates would be a great extra for the set.
And definitely needs a helm of some sort. with all that protection a naked scalp seems a bit of a "shoot me right here" - not great for a soldier. Something like the kendrium fleet helm seems to work from the front in terms of styling but with a solid skull cap area and without the extended ridge out of the rear of the head.
Edit: Something like this maybe?
I also think it would be great if the irridescent material was added to this set. This could allow better mix and match with the existing retro sci fi set and promote cross purchasing.
finally and keeping with the sci fi theme - how about 2 and 3 fingered glove options for those wanting to use this as alien armor
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Booo, does this mean we can't use it with full helms now?
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No, you can use them. I tested it.
Oh, phew, thank goodness. This set feels like it'd be perfect to upgrade a beloved Power Armor character of mine, but having a full helm is critical to his suit. I'd love to use that collar in addition to the helm, so this is a very pleasing development.
What helmet? If it's available, I'll see if I can snag you a shot on PTS.
Sci-Fi Soldier gloves are still metal only.
The Chin guard and Collar could do with some more fine detail.
Also the gloves and feet chuold do with a bit more work as well I don't seem to enjoy the detail that's got them lines all-over them a choice to pick between smooth and lined whuold be nice.
Oh and the feet for the females need to be hi-heels!. I need good looking hi-heel boots. and about the weapons yeah we need some to come with this set.
Also the chest attachments chuold have more things like the other set that has this choice like maybe small parts of the chest like radios or vents you kown techy stuff. Not just a slap-on emblem.
well this bacily how I feel about it.
But yeah really chuold do with more detail and more options to it.
The fact that they have added the emblem flush on the piece as an option is AWESOME! It's a much better idea than the alternate "iron man" circle with emblem that's super small inside. I hope to see this applied to all chest wear in the future.
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Only as a second option. A heavy duty sci fi set is one of the last things that should have heels slapped onto them.
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Oh, it's one of the tech helms. The one that has the Y-shaped visor. Coupled with the knight's top crest and the smooth tech ventilator.
I'll probably hop onto the PTS at some point myself to see this new costume set in action at some point.
Bug: You can't change the material type for both gloves at once. You have to do them individually.
I'd like for the ones we have to be on the 'side' rather than on top, if we're going to make the actual shoulder pads bigger.
Not a slam on you, but I don't like how the majority of shoulderpads in this game make my character look like a DBZ reject.
In addition, I think it's probably best to throw in some weapons with this pack. It's kind of pointless to make a 'Soldier' costume that is really just a set of armor. The game currently lacks weapon models in all categories since On Alert. I advise bringing back some of the originals, or making new ones.
However, couple of issues.
*cough*
Also I was thinking about the gun options - how about a sci fi version of the gunblade
This model would be used for single and dual pistol powers, and also for single and dual sword powers. (red areas = glow points)
A rifle/axe version could be included for rifle powers and HW
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I'd like an 'alternate' version without the blade to have maybe a laser beam in place of the blade (like the minigun from power armor).
I had the same thoughts, too.
Also, as someone mentioned before in this thread, the boot pieces have the unfortunate effect of looking somewhat like heavily armored socks because of the vertical fluting along their length. I'd recommend either change the fluting to horizontal, or remove it altogether and make that area of the boot armor smooth.
(Just threw together a few different colours for experimentation for possible future costumes)
I'm not so keen on the auto-almost bracers for the gloves, but it's tolerable.
+1'd for both of these comments too.
Aside from that, it's a very nice addition!
EDIT: Has it been mentioned where this costume set will be dropping from/purchasable from?
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LOVE the collar, LOVE the thigh plates, Love the ear cover thingy.
Also, has anyone asked/has it been specified, but is this for a Z-Store set? Or a lockbox one? I feel like it's more of a store-bound set.
I've been waiting for a chinstrap as a mouth accessory for a while, but I'd prefer one that comes with less extra geometry. The part that wraps around the back of the head keeps it from working with most helmets without serious clipping, and even the extra cheek guards seem unnecessary. At the very least it needs a helmet to go with it, but I'd prefer if new set pieces were designed to integrate better existing sets.
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All of the this. Gunblades where a wasted opprotunity, they could have easily been Melee weapons as well as pistols. A large chunk of specialist AT's would LOVE to have this.
On an unrelated note; would someone be willing to take a screencap of just the Scifi soldier chestpiece? preferably on a robot torso if you can.
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It's an awesome idea. Even if such a weapon skin can't make into the SciFi set, please consider it for future sets.
Also, allowing Gunblades as a weapon for both Melee and Ranged weapons would be great. Those playing "The Specialist" AT would highly appreciate it!
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