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  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    "Don't Go Chasing Waterfalls" in Canada
    text: "Even superferoes need a break sometimes... slide down the frozen waterfall in Lynx's Fold"
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Heroic 25pts - "Billy Goat Bluff"

    Text: "Defeat the troll under the bridge in MacDonald Park"

    The troll is a grond that spawns in the water under the bridge in the park. He seems pretty rare and the pathing PSI enemies will kill him if he's up. The park is the one between the Argent HQ and the PSI Building.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    yeah transmit recieve is for killing the viper agents around the two big sattelite dishes near project awakening.

    still been unable to find that bit from the rude awakenings questline.... feel free to tell me ;)

    If I could remember what quest it was, I would tell you.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    The "Fenced Yard" for Raptor Roundup in Canada is at 965 50 903.

    Currently at 3245 Perk points and nothing to spend them on :(

    Edit:
    Teleios Destroyer Research: 970 50 956
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Dardove wrote:
    If I could remember what quest it was, I would tell you.

    yeah it kinda seems to me i've done everything but i'm obviously missing something... bleh
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    still been unable to find that bit from the rude awakenings questline.... feel free to tell me ;)
    The only hidden one of those I can think of would be the one you get from a drop at the western Dispatch site.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    The only hidden one of those I can think of would be the one you get from a drop at the western Dispatch site.

    hmmm, may have to try there then lad...

    also, no pvanqish perk for killing mechassasin in questionite authority? why is the poor wimp not work one? :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    ok inside the mission shadow script in canada there's quilophic lore 1 available, pile of glowy books on a rock near a grimoire fragmebnt
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Cavrin wrote:
    Heroic 25pts - "Billy Goat Bluff"

    Text: "Defeat the troll under the bridge in MacDonald Park"

    The troll is a grond that spawns in the water under the bridge in the park. He seems pretty rare and the pathing PSI enemies will kill him if he's up. The park is the one between the Argent HQ and the PSI Building.

    There are two bridges in the park. Happen to know which one it spawns at?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    also and i dont know if people know this, in krim crown coda just behind the brazier by eclipse there is eclipses orders available as a glowy
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    You get a new category called 'Monster Island' in your perk list and one called 'Jurassic Perk' when you kill Teleiosaurus in Monster Island...though it says 'Solo Teleiosaurus' which no one could do unless he was totally bugged....I don't even think I can keep track of how many times I died during that fight.

    You don't get a Vanquished Teleiosaurus one though :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    bah, now i'm also missing 'its not a minor problem to him' from the searching in shadows perk in canada.... :(:(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    bah, now i'm also missing 'its not a minor problem to him' from the searching in shadows perk in canada.... :(:(

    It's an escort quest. Look for Hal Barrett.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Dardove wrote:
    It's an escort quest. Look for Hal Barrett.

    sweet. any idea where roughly?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    sweet. any idea where roughly?
    Look for the ghost tent at the edge between Kigatilik's Maw and Hoarfrost Hills. It should give you the mission to find him.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Look for the ghost tent at the edge between Kigatilik's Maw and Hoarfrost Hills. It should give you the mission to find him.

    cheers you two are stars. now if only i could find the other one i'm missing i'd be goldejn... still, better than nowt ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Dardove wrote:
    There are two bridges in the park. Happen to know which one it spawns at?

    The bridge on the south side of the park.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I dunno if you're interested in the PvP ones, but there are some listed here in this thread that I didn't see on my last perusal.

    http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=56149
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I would say yes as I will try to get those as well.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I have created a page on the wiki for tracking perks that are truly missable (as in you cannot get them after a certain point). Please add to it if you know of any others!

    http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/Category:Missable_Perks
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Collection Perk:

    "Offensive Line"

    Text: "The biggest members of the Stronghold Prison Football Team are hanging out in the exercise yard. Take them down to score points with the warden. Defeat Bestial Prisoners and SPARC armors in the exercise yard."


    The prison's exercise yard looks like a football field hence the Perk's name.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I can't believe the Harrowing Book 3 isn't in the wiki yet. If nobody's mentioned it it's found in MC, outside the bookstore where you fight the Black Shepard where it's all firey and demony. It's sitting at the base of a tree right outside the store.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Various Finds from the day.

    Aegir Cave Diver
    cave 5: loc 947 2435 179
    cave 6: 1174 2011 1329
    cave 7: 773 2230 505
    cave 8: 1357 2239 245
    cave 9: 1673 2094 1602
    cave 10: 1653 2051 1265

    Qlipothic Lore part 6: Monster Island: Argent Preserve: loc -535 303 -652

    All about Viper: Viper Agent Training: Monster Island Slither Beach: 97 78 723

    Monster island slither beach history: -789 281 1528

    I am the Egg-Man: Collection Perk: 25 points: Monster island: slither beacher: -626 351 1785

    Found 3(?) pieces of Lore inside the Viper's Nest on Monster Island and one outside. Don't remember which ones exactly. I know I completed Mad Correspondence though.

    For Monster Island there is no explorer perk, but the cartographer does exist. Instead of saying find all neighborhoods it says to clear the map.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Here's another one that isn't on the wiki but can't see here:

    Teleios Experiments - Warbeast; Canada 2082, 49, 196. On hood of a truck just behind Cadet Lawrence at foot of Teleios Tower.

    Oh, and in reference to finding things, I find it much easier to bind a key for /loc so I can spam it while moving about. Just use "/bind keyname loc"
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    this is a real longshot but if someone could help i'd be grateful. dont suppose someone could post a list of all their viper missions they've completed in canada so i can compare with mine to see which one i'm missing? don't want to move on without that perk =(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009

    So you don't like Birthers but you're ok with Truthers? :happy:

    Sorry Ogul, each one of us is accountable for what we do. Jones is far from a menial government employee, and having a guy like him in the national spotlight is bad for business.

    You should have an incomplete list in your perk log, with whichever ones you're missing just checked off. Just read off the name of them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Livingston wrote:
    (Edit: Found it)

    Just as a summation:

    If we get the Following:

    Millennium City Tutorial -

    Red Bug Down (Exploration perk)

    Burning Sands Crisis Area -

    Out of the Wasteland (Knowledge Perk)

    Vanquished Ferd (Defeat Perk)

    Vanquished Gigaton (Defeat Perk)

    Canada Crisis Area -

    Raiders On The Storm (Knowledge Perk)

    Vanquished Rakshasa (Defeat Perk)

    Then once we get to the normal map area we should have all the weird perks that you might miss from the areas you can no longer get to, correct?

    Add to this we are the champions - the only way to get credit for talking to witchcraft is at the celebration if you choose ravenspeak make sure you talk to witchcrat too - talking to her in normal desert does nothing
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    As far as the money perks go (well to do, livin' large, whatever is after that) it bugs out as soon as you buy anything. If you just sell a bunch of crap on a new character immediately you'll get well to do (if you sell 10 silver worth of stuff anyway) and the counter on living large will show your money level (eg 1,000 / 50,000). As soon as you BUY anything, this gets set to -1/50,000 .

    Submitted a bug report but again this is something that has been bugged since closed beta so don't count to a fix anytime soon. Unless you plan on not crafting at all or waiting until you completely finish this perk chain to get it, it is basically impossible to get livin' large at the moment.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    insicor wrote:
    As far as the money perks go (well to do, livin' large, whatever is after that) it bugs out as soon as you buy anything. If you just sell a bunch of crap on a new character immediately you'll get well to do (if you sell 10 silver worth of stuff anyway) and the counter on living large will show your money level (eg 1,000 / 50,000). As soon as you BUY anything, this gets set to -1/50,000 .

    Submitted a bug report but again this is something that has been bugged since closed beta so don't count to a fix anytime soon. Unless you plan on not crafting at all or waiting until you completely finish this perk chain to get it, it is basically impossible to get livin' large at the moment.

    indeed i'd imagine most people have this issue
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Anyone have an idea where the third respawn point is in Downtown? I've got the one by the Magic Lantern and the one on the north side of Harmon, but can't find the third.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I found the perk BASE jumping in Ren center as an incomplete one. I have no clue which building and where to jump.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    One of the Devs made a comment that sound like it had nothing to do with jumping off the tallest building. So that is out at least on that one.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Deth wrote:
    One of the Devs made a comment that sound like it had nothing to do with jumping off the tallest building. So that is out at least on that one.

    if it is jumping off a building, id think more along the lines of the only one with a teleporter to the top
    though that didnt work so thats obviously not it
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    now that i've finally sorted my rude awakenings only missing fastest gun and hikers horror. assuming still no update on those?

    also, on base jumping i had a go myself and i'm wondering if it has something to do with not hitting buildings on the way down, as everyn time i triued i hit several

    also i am assuming there are no more perks to be found in the level 20-29 pvp arenas?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    How do you get "cleaning up the town" in the main snake gulch arc?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    cleaning up the town and fastest gun are 2 unknowns for the snake gulch ones, if someone knows would be nice to hear about those 2
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Dardove wrote:
    IAlso have a heroic perk called Communication Breakdown. Have to disable 3 comms array. I just need the primary. Don't remember where exactly the other two are. I believe one was by Project Awakening.
    IS-Wolf wrote:
    All three are in Project Awakening, one is just inside the little side base at the side of the main compound.

    I can only find two, the primary and secondary. Where is the backup?

    Edit: nevermind, found it. It's outside the base proper.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    TheVedis wrote:
    Machine Revolution page on wiki is wrong, states Mechanon Radio Signal for Machine Revolution is in the Lemurian sub, if it is, I have not found it, I did however find alternate Mechanon lore there. So if it is in fact in the sub, someone please update it with an exact location.

    Mechanon Radio Signal has been moved to Monster Island and is among the rocks just above the entrance to Monroe's Lab.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Alright, another thread has been started for perks for killing your nemesis' minions. Since you can only have so many nemeses, some of these are missable.

    http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=57297
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Sarielle wrote:
    Alright, another thread has been started for perks for killing your nemesis' minions. Since you can only have so many nemeses, some of these are missable.

    http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=57297

    none of them are missable sinse you can kill other peoples minions for credit
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    *sigh* just realized today I missed a quest in the desert crisis for a perk on my highest toon.

    Grond Theft Altercation

    /crushed
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    @Calendros made a custom channel for talking about perks called "Perk Hunters"

    If you don't know how to join custom channels. right kill on one of your chat tabs. When the chat option menu shows up, click on the channels tab, and type in Perk Hunters. The button should say join. Click it and you should be good to go.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Knowledge: Viper Supersoldier Program: Teleios Brain Deal
    Found in Millenium City, in the Reptile's Retreat area, underneath the ramp leading into the underground base. Go to one of the two giant lever mechanisms and check the briefcase.

    Loc 9856 139 603
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Cavrin wrote:
    Collection Perk:

    "Offensive Line"

    Text: "The biggest members of the Stronghold Prison Football Team are hanging out in the exercise yard. Take them down to score points with the warden. Defeat Bestial Prisoners and SPARC armors in the exercise yard."


    The prison's exercise yard looks like a football field hence the Perk's name.
    Confirmed.

    Edit:
    Teleios' Experiments: Qularr Dissection notes - In Teleios' Secret Lab on Monster Island (Big metal door where the Qularr fight some Teleiosaurs).

    Same map also has the Qularr Biotechnology notes & Teleiosaurus vs Qwijibo, but it neither register as part of Teleios' Experiments for some reason.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Confirmed.

    Edit:
    Teleios' Experiments: Qularr Dissection notes - In Teleios' Secret Lab on Monster Island (Big metal door where the Qularr fight some Teleiosaurs).

    Same map also has the Qularr Biotechnology notes & Teleiosaurus vs Qwijibo, but it neither register as part of Teleios' Experiments for some reason.

    Yeah, I submitted a bug report about that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Does anyone know how to get the volatile perk in the High tech UTC zone? I know their is a large box at the top of the ramps in the center that is extremely volatile, and when you attack it, it blows up and does about 2600 damage to anyone around it. I have destroyed it many times, and I have even killed an enemy from it blowing up and still didn't recieve the perk.

    Has anyone recieved this yet? Maybe it is bugged.

    I just don't want to miss this perk by leveling out of the bracket, like I did with Cieling Cat.

    If any devs are reading this, any word on allowing us to do the other UTC zones even though we level out of them? Would be nice to have a variety at higher levels.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    If anyone could find Phoenix's Order for Crowns of Krim, I would really like to know where it is. I searched his lair up and down, but couldn't find it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    TheVedis wrote:
    none of them are missable sinse you can kill other peoples minions for credit

    Ah? Well that's good to know :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    TheVedis wrote:
    if it is jumping off a building, id think more along the lines of the only one with a teleporter to the top
    though that didnt work so thats obviously not it

    Well, someone claimed to have gotten it, but isn't quite sure how.
    From what he described though, it might involve jumping off all the buildings in Ren Center.
    Although that seems kinda counter to what the Dev said.

    Another option that occurred to me is that it might involve jumping from building to building, starting at the highest and ending up at the lowest.

    *shrugs*

    Just ideas though, no guarantees that it'll work.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    If have not gotten to Lemuria and Monster Island yet, so if anyone has some of the Rogue's Gallery Perks and hit the history Perks can you guys start sending me screen shots? Make sure that when you take the screenie, the Perk is highlighted so its the larger image.

    Lohr@champions-online-wiki.com
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