It will be interesting to see if/how the game changes to fit the new series though.
I doubt it will change at all. For all anyone knows, this will take place in the JJ verse. "Not related to" could just mean it's not about the Enterprise and crew from JJ Trek, but still within that universe.
CBS is making this. As everyone here knows CBS doesn't have the rights to make anything "JJ-verse" related
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It will be interesting to see if/how the game changes to fit the new series though.
I doubt it will change at all. For all anyone knows, this will take place in the JJ verse. "Not related to" could just mean it's not about the Enterprise and crew from JJ Trek, but still within that universe.
Unlikely, considering this is a CBS series and the IP rights are split between CBS and Paramount. CBS only has the prime timeline, Paramount only has JJ-verse. When you combine that with the last sentence or that article, it almost certainly means this is NOT going to be in the JJ-verse, at all.
Recall Paramount's innovation of founding an entire television network (UPN) on the back of a new Star Trek television series (Voyager). Which worked out for them initially. With so many cable networks to choose from, UPN got lost in the shuffle and is no more. Hard to predict the future - or lack thereof - for CBS All-Access. I would expect all other Trek series to become exclusive to All-Access the closer to the new series we get.
That said, I'm curious as to what they have in mind? Too vague at this point to have any ideas. Though I'm pleased it won't be related to the Bad Robot series of films. That right there is a plus.
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I would like them to move past Nemesis. A brand new ship, a brand new crew, new modern systems, weapons and environments never seen before in Star Trek. Whenever they try to go back in time they always mess it up. Like in Enterprise where almost every system from TNG era existed despite the story playing 200 years in the past. Replicators, transporters, phasers, photon torpedoes, holodecks, tractor beams, etc. It was basically TNG in old costumes.
It will fail, calling it now. Kurtzman reason 1, reason 2 all access for 5.99 a month sorry but I don't even watch tv, think im going to pay 5.99 a month to watch 1 episode a week? Think a lot of other people will? Have to consider how many already pay for cable and then expected to fork over 5.99 to see something on cbs web TRIBBLE..
Also the information in the link is impressive, the original series ran 3 seasons in the span of 1 year..thats damn good..lets not forget it will be just in time for the 50th anniversary in 2017.....I think someone has math issues 1966 - 2017 is....51..
lets just accept the simple reality that until Disney gets their hands on this franchise...we will continue to suffer. For all its worth, Disney is doing their damned best to keep star wars running for the next decade and were getting like 1 movie a year, its taken how long just to get 3 more trek films out with no tv series ?
Netflix just recently started adding the HD version of the Next Gen episodes.
They've had Trek for streaming since 2011 here in the USA.
I suppose CBS could pull them, but I don't really think they will want to give up the revenue stream.
Netflix is a very popular secondary-market money maker at the moment.
It looks like CBS is making their own streaming service. If they make it the go to place for all things Trek...they can replace that revenue stream with a much greater revenue stream.
Yeah, that's a brilliant idea, everybody and their brother is creating a streaming service...
The market is already getting over-saturated and I for one, am not willing to pay 20 different services to watch what I like.
Besides, by the time this hits the airwaves it'll probably have been changed several times.
Heh.. as I said above, as soon as it becomes available, it'll be on the internetz somewhere.
People used to say the same thing about TV networks. However CBS could be banking on the fact that their streaming service will be the only one that has Star Trek on it.
But there comes a limit to how much folks are willing to pay.
Cable company's are just starting to find out the hard way, that they have pushed the market's limit.
Direct TV and such are cutting heavily into the Cable Co's profits with cheaper price offerings.
The same will happen with all these individual streaming services.
I LOVE Trek, but I'm not going to pay extra too see it, not when there are so many alternate ways that I am already paying for or cost me next to nothing.
It'll be the UPN fiasco all over again.
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Recall Paramount's innovation of founding an entire television network (UPN) on the back of a new Star Trek television series (Voyager). Which worked out for them initially. With so many cable networks to choose from, UPN got lost in the shuffle and is no more. Hard to predict the future - or lack thereof - for CBS All-Access. I would expect all other Trek series to become exclusive to All-Access the closer to the new series we get.
That said, I'm curious as to what they have in mind? Too vague at this point to have any ideas. Though I'm pleased it won't be related to the Bad Robot series of films. That right there is a plus.
UPN merged with the WB to form the CW.
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Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Unlikely, considering this is a CBS series and the IP rights are split between CBS and Paramount. CBS only has the prime timeline, Paramount only has JJ-verse. When you combine that with the last sentence or that article, it almost certainly means this is NOT going to be in the JJ-verse, at all.
Maybe, maybe not. No one knows anything at this point.
Obviously. However, the facts we DO know(which I mentioned) suggest this is NOT a JJ-series. There is a difference between a reasonable assumption and a complete shot in the dark.
I bet it's going to be some sort of procedural crime drama involving a crack team of specialists, with their own quirky personalities and odd character interplay, solving mysteries...in spaaace!
Oh, and do some occasional "exploring the humanities" too.
Unlikely, considering this is a CBS series and the IP rights are split between CBS and Paramount. CBS only has the prime timeline, Paramount only has JJ-verse. When you combine that with the last sentence or that article, it almost certainly means this is NOT going to be in the JJ-verse, at all.
Maybe, maybe not. No one knows anything at this point.
Obviously. However, the facts we DO know(which I mentioned) suggest this is NOT a JJ-series. There is a difference between a reasonable assumption and a complete shot in the dark.
I agree, JJ-Trek is its own thing.
CBS will have to renegotiate with Paramount to use any of it.
It's highly more likely that this will be either a brand new Trek Universe, or a continuation of the original in some fashion.
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"I hear because the films are employing the original Star Trek characters they were not available for a TV series."
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Obviously. However, the facts we DO know(which I mentioned) suggest this is NOT a JJ-series. There is a difference between a reasonable assumption and a complete shot in the dark.
Well, sure, but it may not be unreasonable for Paramount/CBS to take a page from the Marvel playbook and create a single, shared universe for their film and television property.
Heh... that'll be the big day.
They've been dealing with in-fighting between them since the split on a host of different things, never mind all the Trek stuff that's been reported.
Wasn't Kurtzman involved in a Trek Animation thing that he was trying to develop?
Oh, found it on Google, that was back in 2011.
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Obviously. However, the facts we DO know(which I mentioned) suggest this is NOT a JJ-series. There is a difference between a reasonable assumption and a complete shot in the dark.
Well, sure, but it may not be unreasonable for Paramount/CBS to take a page from the Marvel playbook and create a single, shared universe for their film and television property.
doubtful since the two companies can't seem to come together just for an online game.
Your pain runs deep.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Obviously. However, the facts we DO know(which I mentioned) suggest this is NOT a JJ-series. There is a difference between a reasonable assumption and a complete shot in the dark.
Well, sure, but it may not be unreasonable for Paramount/CBS to take a page from the Marvel playbook and create a single, shared universe for their film and television property.
If we see ANY evidence that is happening, then I'll be happy to agree. However, at the moment, based on what we actually know, the chances are this is NOT a JJ-series. If you see any evidence suggesting a CBS/Paramount deal, let me know.
Heh... that'll be the big day.
They've been dealing with in-fighting between them since the split on a host of different things, never mind all the Trek stuff that's been reported.
People said the same thing about Sony and owning the rights to Spider-Man and look where that went.
Yeah, but SONY FU'd Spiderman big time.
CBS hasn't done anything close to that with Star Trek... yet.
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Heh... that'll be the big day.
They've been dealing with in-fighting between them since the split on a host of different things, never mind all the Trek stuff that's been reported.
People said the same thing about Sony and owning the rights to Spider-Man and look where that went.
and notice when that happened there was a big press conference announcing that Sony and Marvel were working together on the new Spider-Man. Did Paramount and CBS announce they were working on this series?
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Yeah, but SONY FU'd Spiderman big time.
CBS hasn't done anything close to that with Star Trek yet.
I wouldn't call "Enterprise" a raving success....
While Enterprise wasn't TNG...it wasn't Amazing Spider-Man 2 either
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Hopefully it will be a real Trek series and not Cowboys in Space or Star Wars set in the Trek universe again. And I also hope Vulcan will survive this time.
Hopefully it will be a real Trek series and not Cowboys in Space or Star Wars set in the Trek universe again. And I also hope Vulcan will survive this time.
you do know Captain Kirk was very much a space cowboy
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and notice when that happened there was a big press conference announcing that Sony and Marvel were working together on the new Spider-Man. Did Paramount and CBS announce they were working on this series?
Not yet. Maybe they will. No one knows much of anything at this point.
You keep saying this, but there are things we definitely DO know:
1) CBS is making a new Trek series
2) Trek IP rights are split between CBS and Paramount, and CBS only has the prime timeline
Yes, things could change. Yes, some hypothetical deal could be made. But the actual FACTS that we know at this point suggest this is NOT a JJ-trek series. That is what you would call an "educated guess", which is better than a guess made without any basis at all.
Yes, things could change. Yes, some hypothetical deal could be made.
Isn't that what I just said? Sure, it's unlikely. That doesn't mean it's impossible. How about everyone wait for more information?
What do you mean "wait"? As in, not talk? If so, you have every freedom to not read/post in discussions until you get the info you want. But no one else has to "wait" if they don't want to. And while it's all speculation at this point, speculation supported by fact is better than speculation with no basis at all.
and notice when that happened there was a big press conference announcing that Sony and Marvel were working together on the new Spider-Man. Did Paramount and CBS announce they were working on this series?
Not yet. Maybe they will. No one knows much of anything at this point.
I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you, at this point.
This a solely a CBS Television Project, Paramount is the Theatrical/Movie side and ne'er between the two shall meet.
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CBS is making this. As everyone here knows CBS doesn't have the rights to make anything "JJ-verse" related
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Unlikely, considering this is a CBS series and the IP rights are split between CBS and Paramount. CBS only has the prime timeline, Paramount only has JJ-verse. When you combine that with the last sentence or that article, it almost certainly means this is NOT going to be in the JJ-verse, at all.
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That said, I'm curious as to what they have in mind? Too vague at this point to have any ideas. Though I'm pleased it won't be related to the Bad Robot series of films. That right there is a plus.
Also the information in the link is impressive, the original series ran 3 seasons in the span of 1 year..thats damn good..lets not forget it will be just in time for the 50th anniversary in 2017.....I think someone has math issues 1966 - 2017 is....51..
lets just accept the simple reality that until Disney gets their hands on this franchise...we will continue to suffer. For all its worth, Disney is doing their damned best to keep star wars running for the next decade and were getting like 1 movie a year, its taken how long just to get 3 more trek films out with no tv series ?
But there comes a limit to how much folks are willing to pay.
Cable company's are just starting to find out the hard way, that they have pushed the market's limit.
Direct TV and such are cutting heavily into the Cable Co's profits with cheaper price offerings.
The same will happen with all these individual streaming services.
I LOVE Trek, but I'm not going to pay extra too see it, not when there are so many alternate ways that I am already paying for or cost me next to nothing.
It'll be the UPN fiasco all over again.
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UPN merged with the WB to form the CW.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Obviously. However, the facts we DO know(which I mentioned) suggest this is NOT a JJ-series. There is a difference between a reasonable assumption and a complete shot in the dark.
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Oh, and do some occasional "exploring the humanities" too.
I agree, JJ-Trek is its own thing.
CBS will have to renegotiate with Paramount to use any of it.
It's highly more likely that this will be either a brand new Trek Universe, or a continuation of the original in some fashion.
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"I hear because the films are employing the original Star Trek characters they were not available for a TV series."
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Heh... that'll be the big day.
They've been dealing with in-fighting between them since the split on a host of different things, never mind all the Trek stuff that's been reported.
Wasn't Kurtzman involved in a Trek Animation thing that he was trying to develop?
Oh, found it on Google, that was back in 2011.
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doubtful since the two companies can't seem to come together just for an online game.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
If we see ANY evidence that is happening, then I'll be happy to agree. However, at the moment, based on what we actually know, the chances are this is NOT a JJ-series. If you see any evidence suggesting a CBS/Paramount deal, let me know.
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Yeah, but SONY FU'd Spiderman big time.
CBS hasn't done anything close to that with Star Trek... yet.
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and notice when that happened there was a big press conference announcing that Sony and Marvel were working together on the new Spider-Man. Did Paramount and CBS announce they were working on this series?
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
While Enterprise wasn't TNG...it wasn't Amazing Spider-Man 2 either
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
you do know Captain Kirk was very much a space cowboy
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
You keep saying this, but there are things we definitely DO know:
1) CBS is making a new Trek series
2) Trek IP rights are split between CBS and Paramount, and CBS only has the prime timeline
Yes, things could change. Yes, some hypothetical deal could be made. But the actual FACTS that we know at this point suggest this is NOT a JJ-trek series. That is what you would call an "educated guess", which is better than a guess made without any basis at all.
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Join Date: Sep 2008
What do you mean "wait"? As in, not talk? If so, you have every freedom to not read/post in discussions until you get the info you want. But no one else has to "wait" if they don't want to. And while it's all speculation at this point, speculation supported by fact is better than speculation with no basis at all.
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I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you, at this point.
This a solely a CBS Television Project, Paramount is the Theatrical/Movie side and ne'er between the two shall meet.
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