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  • marty123#3757 marty123 Member Posts: 666 Arc User
    Captain Akira Sulu is first officer of Earth Space Dock, so “canonically” in STO captains can serve under an admiral who’s in command of a starship or starbase. So yes, this should happen.
  • keepcalmchiveonkeepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 3,508 Arc User
    Captain Akira Sulu is first officer of Earth Space Dock, so “canonically” in STO captains can serve under an admiral who’s in command of a starship or starbase. So yes, this should happen.

    again...its a first officer, oh look, on ESD...not a ship. again, i dont really care if they add this feature, but using the reference you mention only supports the fact that ranks above CPT are more shore billet or space station billet positions.

    meh

  • paradox#7391 paradox Member Posts: 1,145 Arc User
    Never really understood why some people want to play as Admirals, all they do is sit around all day filing paper work, some of which are morally corrupt like Satie or complete jerks like Clancy.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 3,881 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    Never really understood why some people want to play as Admirals, all they do is sit around all day filing paper work, some of which are morally corrupt like Satie or complete jerks like Clancy.

    Commodore is a kind of admiral (what the game calls "Rear Admiral Lower Half"), and some of them have field commands (like Decker in The Doomsday Machine), enough in fact that in TOS Starfleet made separate insignia to distinguish between ground and field commodores (and possibly other admirals, since the rank is still on the sleeves).
  • keepcalmchiveonkeepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 3,508 Arc User
    Never really understood why some people want to play as Admirals, all they do is sit around all day filing paper work, some of which are morally corrupt like Satie or complete jerks like Clancy.

    Commodore is a kind of admiral (what the game calls "Rear Admiral Lower Half"), and some of them have field commands (like Decker in The Doomsday Machine), enough in fact that in TOS Starfleet made separate insignia to distinguish between ground and field commodores (and possibly other admirals, since the rank is still on the sleeves).

    and many times it has been argued that the rank of commodore should have been included, if not the highest rank obtainable.
    meh

  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 10,647 Arc User
    > @phoenixc#0738 said:
    > Commodore is a kind of admiral (what the game calls "Rear Admiral Lower Half"), and some of them have field commands (like Decker in The Doomsday Machine), enough in fact that in TOS Starfleet made separate insignia to distinguish between ground and field commodores (and possibly other admirals, since the rank is still on the sleeves).

    It grinds my gears they went with RALH and it was always defended with 'but the RL US Navy did this and that". Now canon has finally shown it's Commodore, no such thing as RALH. The game should adapt, especially since it's just a text change. But knowing how these things worked in the past, one of the two devs of STO probably has to crawl through the game code one line at a time (no search or replace feature, because) and manually change every single appearance of 'RALH' to 'Commodore' and that's impossible to do. Or something like that.
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  • keepcalmchiveonkeepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 3,508 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    > @phoenixc#0738 said:
    > Commodore is a kind of admiral (what the game calls "Rear Admiral Lower Half"), and some of them have field commands (like Decker in The Doomsday Machine), enough in fact that in TOS Starfleet made separate insignia to distinguish between ground and field commodores (and possibly other admirals, since the rank is still on the sleeves).

    It grinds my gears they went with RALH and it was always defended with 'but the RL US Navy did this and that". Now canon has finally shown it's Commodore, no such thing as RALH. The game should adapt, especially since it's just a text change. But knowing how these things worked in the past, one of the two devs of STO probably has to crawl through the game code one line at a time (no search or replace feature, because) and manually change every single appearance of 'RALH' to 'Commodore' and that's impossible to do. Or something like that.

    it was argued, even by myself, that commodore would have been the better choice, however you see what we got. we should never have been promoted past commodore in the first place.
    meh

  • woerligenwoerligen Member Posts: 259 Arc User
    The only workaround for now is to use a Holo Boff at captain's rank. For instance, a DSC Starfleet could roleplay as either First Officer under Captain Lorca, or Admiral with Lorca's ship as their flagship.

    The option to give a boff captain pips would be cool in the Tailor, tho.

    And I also out myself as somebody who prefers the title "Commodore" over "Rear Admiral, Lower Half".
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  • shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,608 Arc User
    I like idea of captain boffs but I like being a fleet admiral
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,249 Arc User
    Well I too would like this. Because while at the battle of Sector 001, yes there was an Admiral in command of the fleet, he wasn't on the bridge.

    Infact in some space operas like Star Trek(and in real life) there is what is called a "Flag Bridge". Basically meaning when the ship is in combat or at battlestations and is flagship of an Admiral, he commands the squadron from the Flag Bridge.

    So if anything there should be flag bridges in STO once we hit Admiral. And our First officer should be able to take command of the ship as a Captain.

    Then ofcourse you can also have the Flag Staff which also the Chief of Staff could have the same Rank as the Captain, but the Captain of the ship has the white shoulders while our chief of staff simply has the standard Oddy uniform.

    Plenty of ways to do this.
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  • gminfly#3704 gminfly Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    Folks really want to appoint Captain rank to Boff that often act like this in combat?

    While that was funny, the fact that some real players act like wet breadsticks on TFOs like "Khitomer in Stasis", "Brotherhood of the Sword" or the new Halloween one, tells me that my Boffs have a good shot at being President of the Federation.

    But to answer your actual question on "want":
    Yes people want this for ages:
    https://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1262012/suggestion-boff-promotion-to-captain-rank
    https://arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/comment/9606855
    https://arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/comment/11654771
    https://arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/comment/10290891
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 54,800 Community Moderator
    Thread in Necromancy territory.
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