10th Anniversary Legacy Starship Bundles!

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  • evilmark444
    evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,762 Arc User
    Question for the devs if they happen to read this (they probably won't, lol), as far as I know every TMP era ship available has alternate nacelles available that glow blu on the sides, why wasn't the new NX skin given that option?
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  • t0m#2593
    t0m#2593 Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    ltminns wrote: »
    The ships are Account Unlocked for all Federation or Federation aligned Characters.

    The Account-wide Traits are special. Once a Character reaches Tier 5 on the Account Trait, all the Traits for that ship unlock for that Character. Once that Character clears Tier 6 in the Account Trait, that Trait (only) is now awarded to ALL Characters on the Account.

    Federation and Federation aligned Characters would still need to level up the older (not Account-wide) Trait to Tier 5 to unlock that one For That Character ONLY.

    thats sounds very good and calms my mind :) because i like the bundle. it brings kind of an end to the promo-ship madness and gives everybody the chance to fly the show-ships. especially new players to the game who might just started the game over discovery or picard show.

    so at the end it looks they really put some brains into this. for my taste they did a good effort in this and the price is kind of fair then. and if the ship slots are splitable in packages of two around the account ... even more great! wouldn't expected that.

    if they'll now go on and provide new story or game-elements to fly those beauties it would be an even more round thing.

    and no. i'm not a fanboy of the game btw. i like it very much. but my list of things i don't like about it is long and i could also bleat about it for hours. but since hate and trolling is such a common thing these days ... i'm just happy that this package is not just a plain blank rip off like many people want to see it.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134
    fleetcaptain5#1134 Member Posts: 3,234 Arc User
    Still doubting whether to buy this or not.

    The consoles are nice, the traits are too. But there's simply too much stuff in it that I would never use. I don't care about the Constitution ships, Warship Voyager is exactly what a Starfleet captain shouldn't fly (that was the whole point of the episode where it appeared) and the Defiant's nose-art will never be seen while in battle.


    The only ships that are sufficiently interesting to me are the Sovereign and the Odyssey. But to use even those ships, I would either have to create more characters (not going to do that because I barely get to play most of those I already have) or retire other ships that were very expensive on existing characters.


    I'm leaning towards passing on this. I'm sure that for new players, it's a good deal because you get different types of ships and a large amount of consoles and traits. For me though, it's rather pointless to buy more stuff only so that more of what I already have can go and collect dust. And because I can't think of a single character that does not have its traits and console slots filled yet, with little room for improvement
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134
    fleetcaptain5#1134 Member Posts: 3,234 Arc User
    I might buy the Odyssey and Sovereign seperately as they would be upgrades of ships I am currently flying. Even if they would be sold at a higher price a piece than a regular T6 ship, I would still be interested.


    So... if any at Cryptic's sales department is reading this: you can get at least one more customer (and I imagine many more) for this pack if parts of it could be bought seperately.


    Use that information or don't, I'm happy to spend my money on other things that I will fully make use of :)
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  • foxrockssocks
    foxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,479 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    I might buy the Odyssey and Sovereign seperately as they would be upgrades of ships I am currently flying. Even if they would be sold at a higher price a piece than a regular T6 ship, I would still be interested.


    So... if any at Cryptic's sales department is reading this: you can get at least one more customer (and I imagine many more) for this pack if parts of it could be bought seperately.


    Use that information or don't, I'm happy to spend my money on other things that I will fully make use of :)

    Selling thing seperately will completely negate the purpose of this pack. This pack is basically a buy a ToS connie that is an account unlock with no gambling pack. NONE of the other ships matters in this pack other than that ship. At best, what we MIGHT see is the zen store already ships that got an upgrade get sold individually...which for you and me works out just fine...but the cost of this pack is the account unlock, no gamble ToS connie.

    I disagree. I don't think the TOS Connie the selling point for this pack. If it is, we should see space swarming with them.

    It is certainly A selling point for some people, and it is a very good ship, but people all have different tastes.

    Personally, I grew up watching reruns of TOS and the TOS movies, before TNG came out, but the Connie has never quite grabbed me.
  • ltminns
    ltminns Member Posts: 12,481 Arc User
    I saw a Legendary Sovereign at DS9 last night as well.
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  • redwren89
    redwren89 Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    Never saw an excelsior...

    So upsetting...

    Q,Q

    But really it should have it, objectively speaking though that wouldn't be the one I'd fly, it's be the Odyssey. What an impressive vessel, canon Enterprise F!!!

    But can't pay for the bundle if I'm using a tiny amount of it. I'll say it again and again. Not happening cryptic, I won't break :)
  • seaofsorrows
    seaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,889 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Selling thing seperately will completely negate the purpose of this pack. This pack is basically a buy a ToS connie that is an account unlock with no gambling pack. NONE of the other ships matters in this pack other than that ship. At best, what we MIGHT see is the zen store already ships that got an upgrade get sold individually...which for you and me works out just fine...but the cost of this pack is the account unlock, no gamble ToS connie.

    Agreed. While a few of the ships are cool (the new NX skin is really nice) the pack really is 'buy a connie and get some throw in's for free.' I have seen a few of the Legendary Odysseys here and there and a couple Defiants, but most of what I have seen flying around are Legendary Constitutions.

    I don't think the TOS Connie the selling point for this pack. If it is, we should see space swarming with them.

    That is exactly what's happening. They're everywhere.
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  • hanover2
    hanover2 Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    Sorry, Cryptic. You had me with the Pilot Defiant, then lost me by forcing the purchase of the whole bundle to obtain it.
  • evilmark444
    evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,762 Arc User
    the pack really is 'buy a connie and get some throw in's for free.'

    Not for me it wasn't, I primarily bought it for the NX, Galaxy, and Odyssey skins. I've never liked the TOS Connie (I do love Cryptic's Excalibur design, but I already have the promo version on the character I wanted it for) so that wasn't a big seller for me. The Disco and JJ Connies were a nice bonus, but I would have made the purchase without them.
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  • reyan01
    reyan01 Member Posts: 15,510 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Selling thing seperately will completely negate the purpose of this pack. This pack is basically a buy a ToS connie that is an account unlock with no gambling pack. NONE of the other ships matters in this pack other than that ship. At best, what we MIGHT see is the zen store already ships that got an upgrade get sold individually...which for you and me works out just fine...but the cost of this pack is the account unlock, no gamble ToS connie.

    Agreed. While a few of the ships are cool (the new NX skin is really nice) the pack really is 'buy a connie and get some throw in's for free.' I have seen a few of the Legendary Odysseys here and there and a couple Defiants, but most of what I have seen flying around are Legendary Constitutions.

    I don't think the TOS Connie the selling point for this pack. If it is, we should see space swarming with them.

    That is exactly what's happening. They're everywhere.

    I'd have to agree.

    Actually on the whole I'd say that the Bundle appears to have proven VERY successful. Whilst there is now an (over?) abundance of various Constitution class ships pretty much everywhere its clear other ships in the pack have proven popular too. Every single TFO I've played since the bundle was released has consisted of mostly, if not entirely, 'Legendary' ships.

    Personally having more fun with the Intrepid from the pack. Couldn't care less about the 'Warship' nonsense - being able to equip six EPG boosting Science consoles makes this ship a Science powerhouse without equal!. The Gravity Wells it can put out are preposterously great!

    Honestly - I know some are upset about the pricing, and I get that; but the bundle has clearly been succesful and that's got to be good for the game's health?
  • ltminns
    ltminns Member Posts: 12,481 Arc User
    I said years ago, the so-called prohibition of end game Constitutions was BS. The reason was if they had one it would surpress sales of other ships. Well, we have had a plethora of other ships that have made good money. They have had a go with R&D Promotion Constitutions and made good money. Here is the cash out with a 'for a limited time only' (but we'll be back wink, wink, nudge, nudge) cherry on top. ;)
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  • evilmark444
    evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,762 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    I said years ago, the so-called prohibition of end game Constitutions was BS.

    In the early days it wasn't, otherwise there would have been one LONG before AoY. Once that restriction was lifted though the only thing stopping them from putting it in the C-Store instead of a lock box or promo pack was greed.
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  • fred26291#2759
    fred26291#2759 Member Posts: 1,044 Arc User
    Pass, $300 is too rich for me.
  • evilmark444
    evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,762 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    Pass, $300 is too rich for me.

    @fred26291 Between the sale and the current zen charge bonus I believe you can get the cheaper bundle for $150 right now. (that's what I've seen other people say anyway, i paid 200 cause I had other stuff i wanted to buy too)
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  • salazarraze
    salazarraze Member Posts: 3,789 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    $300 is too rich for me.
    Me too. $200 is much better.
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  • avoozuul
    avoozuul Member Posts: 3,006 Arc User
    There's many ships in the game stuck at T1 to T5U and ships not yet in the game which I would rather have at T6 than any of the T6 Connies, I couldn't care less for the Connie.
  • redwren89
    redwren89 Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    Can we just agree that getting this pack isn't just about a ToS Connie. Everybody has personal preference.

    I like the Odyssey with the hangar bay and full command suite. Not batted an eyelid at the connies. But I guess it just feels silly that they're t6 at all.
  • phoenix841
    phoenix841 Member Posts: 484 Arc User
    redwren89 wrote: »
    Can we just agree that getting this pack isn't just about a ToS Connie. Everybody has personal preference.

    I like the Odyssey with the hangar bay and full command suite. Not batted an eyelid at the connies. But I guess it just feels silly that they're t6 at all.

    Yeah, the TOS connie was one ship I wanted, but actually I really wanted the MW Sovereign, Intrepid, Defiant, and Donnie more.

    (despite the show it came from, the Donnie is a beautiful ship, especially the alternate skin with the straight pylons)

    On the flip side, I can't stand the Ross variant, and the Verity variant is disappointing.
    The Ross's rear hull where the nacelle pylons flow into looks unnatural. The curves and the texturing on those curves look awful. Plus there's the deflector, gah. It looks worse than the crossfield, which I didn't think was possible.
    The image I saw of the Verity looked fantastic, however the actual in-game look is meh. The texturing is really spot on, but the saucer shape bothers me. I prefer a more elongated saucer on that style ship.
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  • saurializard
    saurializard Member Posts: 4,228 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    Having played with all ships of the bundles, I overall feel a bit disappointed as most of them are legendary in-name only. Apart from the MW sci ship Warship Voyager, the Beyond Konnie, the Pilot Defiant and maybe the MW Sovereign, most of the ships don't really feel impressive or an improvement compared to their normal T6 counterparts.

    The main great things are really just the skins and account traits. And the unlocked Advanced Phaser Arrays of the Donnie (I prefer their S31 Covert variant, though).

    I still think the Command Inspiration system is the most useless system of the game, compared to MW, Pilot, and even Temporal and Intel.
    It's so slow to fill up the meter that 9/10 of the time, I have finished a map before it even reached 75% despite normally using my abilities.
    At least, even Temporal fills faster and has a strong DoT that can be useful to shoot a big target and then focus on other threats while it's dying, and Intel is useful against "boss" ships.

    But Command is utterly useless. The Boff abilities aren't bad, but the innate system is. So the Verity and Galaxy really stick out in this pack and not in a good way.

    A bit of info, regarding 2 traits:

    -Temporal Anchor turns your Gravity Wells into a red swirly thingie with radiation damage, but some research needs to be done, because it seems to conflict with the "spawn aftermath GW Doffs" and kill its effects. After about 6 hours of using it, I ever got it to spawn just 1 additional and normal-looking GW, in just two runs out of about a dozen, which doesn't match what I normally get with the purple Doff and the normal GW. @ambassadorkael#6946 Could the QA team investigate this?

    -Heard I Needed Help is very useful against my expectations after the disappointment of the hyper-squishy useless Section 31 vessel from the Need-to-Know Basis trait. It basically spawns a duplicate of your ship with the Kelvin shield visual on, and its version of Construction Shuttle Wings targets you instead of itself. It's also a bit funny when using the Connie, because it doesn't spawn the Konnie, just a "Kelvin'd" Connie. I guess it's from another Kelvin Timeline where the Kelvin failed to gather future data on the Narada, or the Kelvin-T engineers of the 25th century started following our own's propensity to borrow the other reality's ship designs.

    Also, the Warship Voyager skin does use its cannons as origin points, even if you only have beam arrays, so it's a good point as I was expecting them to be dual-cannons-exclusive, which for a sci ship is not really a good idea.
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  • avoozuul
    avoozuul Member Posts: 3,006 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    Now I am regretting getting the Vizier (Maybe also the intel sov) and the lockbox NX for the console on my main what a waste of EC and a ship slot.
  • avoozuul
    avoozuul Member Posts: 3,006 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    phoenix841 wrote: »
    redwren89 wrote: »
    Can we just agree that getting this pack isn't just about a ToS Connie. Everybody has personal preference.

    I like the Odyssey with the hangar bay and full command suite. Not batted an eyelid at the connies. But I guess it just feels silly that they're t6 at all.

    Yeah, the TOS connie was one ship I wanted, but actually I really wanted the MW Sovereign, Intrepid, Defiant, and Donnie more.
    I wanted the Intrepid until I found out what its stats are. The MW Soveresign seemed interesting but I hated how there's only one LtCom slot, the first MW ships in the game plus most other engi based MW ships didn't have this downside. The lack of the Excelsior also was a big blow to me since that was my number one favorite TOS/TMP ship and the current one in game has very limiting stats.

  • redwren89
    redwren89 Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    > @saurializard said:
    > Having played with all ships of the bundles, I overall feel a bit disappointed as most of them are legendary in-name only. Apart from the MW sci ship Warship Voyager, the Beyond Konnie, the Pilot Defiant and maybe the MW Sovereign, most of the ships don't really feel impressive or an improvement compared to their normal T6 counterparts.
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    > The main great things are really just the skins and account traits. And the unlocked Advanced Phaser Arrays of the Donnie (I prefer their S31 Covert variant, though).
    >
    > I still think the Command Inspiration system is the most useless system of the game, compared to MW, Pilot, and even Temporal and Intel.
    > It's so slow to fill up the meter that 9/10 of the time, I have finished a map before it even reached 75% despite normally using my abilities.
    > At least, even Temporal fills faster and has a strong DoT that can be useful to shoot a big target and then focus on other threats while it's dying, and Intel is useful against "boss" ships.
    >
    > But Command is utterly useless. The Boff abilities aren't bad, but the innate system is. So the Verity and Galaxy really stick out in this pack and not in a good way.
    >
    > A bit of info, regarding 2 traits:
    >
    > -Temporal Anchor turns your Gravity Wells into a red swirly thingie with radiation damage, but some research needs to be done, because it seems to conflict with the "spawn aftermath GW Doffs" and kill its effects. After about 6 hours of using it, I ever got it to spawn just 1 additional and normal-looking GW, in just two runs out of about a dozen, which doesn't match what I normally get with the purple Doff and the normal GW. @ambassadorkael#6946 Could the QA team investigate this?
    >
    > -Heard I Needed Help is very useful against my expectations after the disappointment of the hyper-squishy useless Section 31 vessel from the Need-to-Know Basis trait. It basically spawns a duplicate of your ship with the Kelvin shield visual on, and its version of Construction Shuttle Wings targets you instead of itself. It's also a bit funny when using the Connie, because it doesn't spawn the Konnie, just a "Kelvin'd" Connie. I guess it's from another Kelvin Timeline where the Kelvin failed to gather future data on the Narada, or the Kelvin-T engineers of the 25th century started following our own's propensity to borrow the other reality's ship designs.
    >
    > Also, the Warship Voyager skin does use its cannons as origin points, even if you only have beam arrays, so it's a good point as I was expecting them to be dual-cannons-exclusive, which for a sci ship is not really a good idea.

    I will admit that it's the oldest of the lot, which makes it typical the weakest due to a lower level of power creep. That being said, using command boff powers increases the charge up, using normal boff powers on global cool down can charge it nearly every 1 minute.

    The commander slot for command powers is great for suppression barrage, the single best survival power in-game that is up 100% of the time. You can forget rsp with it!

    The rest is just gravy
  • saurializard
    saurializard Member Posts: 4,228 Arc User
    Also, while I'm talking about it, @ambassadorkael#6946 the Heard I Needed Help trait has a very nasty bug where if you equip it and have a "Construction Shuttle Wing" ability as well, hovering and/or trying to click said ability with the cursor will bring your FPS to their knees.

    I can only guess this may be due to some kind of conflict between the NPC and the PC versions as the latter is caster-only while the NPC one targets the PC's ship.
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  • foxrockssocks
    foxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,479 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    I might buy the Odyssey and Sovereign seperately as they would be upgrades of ships I am currently flying. Even if they would be sold at a higher price a piece than a regular T6 ship, I would still be interested.


    So... if any at Cryptic's sales department is reading this: you can get at least one more customer (and I imagine many more) for this pack if parts of it could be bought seperately.


    Use that information or don't, I'm happy to spend my money on other things that I will fully make use of :)

    Selling thing seperately will completely negate the purpose of this pack. This pack is basically a buy a ToS connie that is an account unlock with no gambling pack. NONE of the other ships matters in this pack other than that ship. At best, what we MIGHT see is the zen store already ships that got an upgrade get sold individually...which for you and me works out just fine...but the cost of this pack is the account unlock, no gamble ToS connie.

    I disagree. I don't think the TOS Connie the selling point for this pack. If it is, we should see space swarming with them.

    It is certainly A selling point for some people, and it is a very good ship, but people all have different tastes.

    Personally, I grew up watching reruns of TOS and the TOS movies, before TNG came out, but the Connie has never quite grabbed me.

    Are we even in the same game? ToS connies are EVERYWHERE. The price of the pack is what it is because there is a ToS connie in there. If you expected to get a ToS connie that is no gamble AND account unlock for less than the price of this pack...yeah you are dreaming.

    Firstly, no, we aren't in the same game. The majority of my time has been spent in patrols to unlock these Legendary traits, so I haven't seen a whole lot outside those solitary maps. I wasn't making any claims either way, just stating what we should see if your hypothesis is true.

    However, what I have seen outside the game has not been TOS Connieville, not even close. I've seen several, yes, but I can safely say I've seen more of any other ship, even other legendary ships have outnumbered the Connies I've seen. Again though, I haven't been out too much so I'm not saying there are or are not tons of Connies, just that I don't believe it is the main selling point for most people in a pack of 10 different ships.

    Finally, the newness of these ships is going to wear off eventually. People will settle into what they like. Whatever the case may be right now, are we going to see tons of TOS Connies as people's preferred ships all over the game in a month? That remains to be seen, but I think that will be the real measure here of what people wanted. Maybe lots of people really did just want the MW Connie, I'm not predicting anything, and don't particularly care if my guess was wrong.

    Personally I like seeing TOS Connies for the nostalgia. I'm not so fond of flying them when there are many other much more attractive ships.
  • redwren89
    redwren89 Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    > @foxrockssocks said:
    > (Quote)
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    > Firstly, no, we aren't in the same game. The majority of my time has been spent in patrols to unlock these Legendary traits, so I haven't seen a whole lot outside those solitary maps. I wasn't making any claims either way, just stating what we should see if your hypothesis is true.
    >
    > However, what I have seen outside the game has not been TOS Connieville, not even close. I've seen several, yes, but I can safely say I've seen more of any other ship, even other legendary ships have outnumbered the Connies I've seen. Again though, I haven't been out too much so I'm not saying there are or are not tons of Connies, just that I don't believe it is the main selling point for most people in a pack of 10 different ships.
    >
    > Finally, the newness of these ships is going to wear off eventually. People will settle into what they like. Whatever the case may be right now, are we going to see tons of TOS Connies as people's preferred ships all over the game in a month? That remains to be seen, but I think that will be the real measure here of what people wanted. Maybe lots of people really did just want the MW Connie, I'm not predicting anything, and don't particularly care if my guess was wrong.
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    > Personally I like seeing TOS Connies for the nostalgia. I'm not so fond of flying them when there are many other much more attractive ships.

    I've been in the game a while since legendary TRIBBLE bundle release and can confirm its i solid mix, tipped toward. Not seen any konnies, but seen some connies and donnies. Seen everything else too. Yes I'm playing the only game 😂
  • crm14916
    crm14916 Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    You know what I THOUGHT Cryptic was gonna do for the 10th anniversary? I thought they were going to release some kind of token that allowed for the T1 - T5 ships of our choice to upgrade to full T6... The old roadmap a while back said something about the "ships we'd been waiting for." Maybe that's where I got the idea...

    Hmmm
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    p.s. Apparently, my wife says the $200 I spent over 8 years ago on my lifetime sub means I can't spend that kind of money on the game again... So I'm out of luck on the bundles...
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  • strathkin
    strathkin Member Posts: 2,655 Bug Hunter
    ltminns wrote: »
    I saw a Legendary Sovereign at DS9 last night as well.

    I've seen a few Legendary Ody's and even a Legendary Exploration ship as well. It seems the ship bundle is a little if not a lot more popular than many first predicted. I'll admit it will likely remain out of the price point for a larger majority, yet for those who buy Lobi or Promo ships could represent a savings for sure.
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