This pack is looking really attractive. I love TMP era ships
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Loving the new skins for the Sovvy and NX, but no Lt. Cmdr Universal seat on the Sovvy is disappointing as there is one on the Archon and Vizier.
"You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
the legend version of the NX comes with the point-defense bombardment console off the lobi version...as i recall, that console tends to show up frequently in higher end builds, so being able to get that account-wide is rather attractive
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A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
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Loving the new skins for the Sovvy and NX, but no Lt. Cmdr Universal seat on the Sovvy is disappointing as there is one on the Archon and Vizier.
I have to say I think the extra point of turn rate, the higher hull, the extra console slot or two, the MW seating, and the extra 10 power makes up for an LT tac instead of ensign and LT uni instead of LTC. It is very clearly the queen of queens.
> @foxrockssocks said: > (Quote) > > I have to say I think the extra point of turn rate, the higher hull, the extra console slot or two, the MW seating, and the extra 10 power makes up for an LT tac instead of ensign and LT uni instead of LTC. It is very clearly the queen of queens.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Yay, I can now discuss the refit my beloved USS Faith of the Heart will be undergoing when this bundle goes live! Already updated the uniforms on that character too (tactical away team members are keeping the MACO uniforms though). I just wish the new NX skin had an Excelsior style neck
With the sovereign being two different specialization seat it would be nice if they were to make the T6 galaxy and oddy have two spec seating too. The T6 Command galaxy would make sense to have Miracle worker, oddy I'd say intel.
While the Galaxy would not be a meta ship at least it be better tank and have a bit more dps, with a Miracle worker lt. Since its so overloaded with engineering and science really isn't it's strong suit. Also the reference to lt Geordi in 2nd season of next gen.
The oddy also doesn't have a second specialization seat which confuses me, and intel would be a nice combination considering it favors shields and generalist console layout.
Loving the new skins for the Sovvy and NX, but no Lt. Cmdr Universal seat on the Sovvy is disappointing as there is one on the Archon and Vizier.
I have to say I think the extra point of turn rate, the higher hull, the extra console slot or two, the MW seating, and the extra 10 power makes up for an LT tac instead of ensign and LT uni instead of LTC. It is very clearly the queen of queens.
Apologies, I should've mentioned that to me it's next to useless as there's no Grav Well capability. On the Vizier and Archon, there is.
"You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
Loving the new skins for the Sovvy and NX, but no Lt. Cmdr Universal seat on the Sovvy is disappointing as there is one on the Archon and Vizier.
I have to say I think the extra point of turn rate, the higher hull, the extra console slot or two, the MW seating, and the extra 10 power makes up for an LT tac instead of ensign and LT uni instead of LTC. It is very clearly the queen of queens.
Apologies, I should've mentioned that to me it's next to useless as there's no Grav Well capability. On the Vizier and Archon, there is.
I think for Aux2Bat builds, Gravity Well is not that popular, but I could be wrong.
Personally, I love having the ability to slot a Lt.Cmdr science ability.
My biggest issue is however that the EXPLORATION Cruiser doesn't have a Lt.Cmdr Science seat. Come on! How are you going to explore without decent science abilities?
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
Loving the new skins for the Sovvy and NX, but no Lt. Cmdr Universal seat on the Sovvy is disappointing as there is one on the Archon and Vizier.
I have to say I think the extra point of turn rate, the higher hull, the extra console slot or two, the MW seating, and the extra 10 power makes up for an LT tac instead of ensign and LT uni instead of LTC. It is very clearly the queen of queens.
Apologies, I should've mentioned that to me it's next to useless as there's no Grav Well capability. On the Vizier and Archon, there is.
I think for Aux2Bat builds, Gravity Well is not that popular, but I could be wrong.
Personally, I love having the ability to slot a Lt.Cmdr science ability.
My biggest issue is however that the EXPLORATION Cruiser doesn't have a Lt.Cmdr Science seat. Come on! How are you going to explore without decent science abilities?
EXACTLY!! I love the Galaxy, but only on-screen. No Lt Cmdr Sci, no deal for a ship.
"You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
Question about this bundle, Does this bundle seeing it is T6 ships, And zen store purchase , are the ships all unlocked for all characters or just one character?
Question about this bundle, Does this bundle seeing it is T6 ships, And zen store purchase , are the ships all unlocked for all characters or just one character?
Yes as far as we are aware all characters get the ships. Except maybe klingons or Klingon aligned characters but they can get the traits.
Question about this bundle, Does this bundle seeing it is T6 ships, And zen store purchase , are the ships all unlocked for all characters or just one character?
So, two interesting things of note with the Sovereign:
It doesn't have the Vizier trait
It doesn't have the wide-angle quantum torpedo
I do have the Vizier, so I have both those items, though now I wish I hadn't spent that zen, zen which would bring me back up to having enough zen for this pack (I got it when it was 85% off).
However, given it said "all traits," plus the Defiant came with the quad cannons, those two missing seem odd.
That said, it's MW, so I will fly it as my main's main ship now. This is what I've always wanted, a MW ship that actually looks good.
So, two interesting things of note with the Sovereign:
It doesn't have the Vizier trait
It doesn't have the wide-angle quantum torpedo
I do have the Vizier, so I have both those items, though now I wish I hadn't spent that zen, zen which would bring me back up to having enough zen for this pack (I got it when it was 85% off).
However, given it said "all traits," plus the Defiant came with the quad cannons, those two missing seem odd.
That said, it's MW, so I will fly it as my main's main ship now. This is what I've always wanted, a MW ship that actually looks good.
On Reddit, Kael said that's a typo, it'll have the Vizier trait, and the enhanced MW Slipstream drive. No one asked about the torpedo, but I imagine that'll be in there too.
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So, two interesting things of note with the Sovereign:
It doesn't have the Vizier trait
It doesn't have the wide-angle quantum torpedo
I do have the Vizier, so I have both those items, though now I wish I hadn't spent that zen, zen which would bring me back up to having enough zen for this pack (I got it when it was 85% off).
However, given it said "all traits," plus the Defiant came with the quad cannons, those two missing seem odd.
That said, it's MW, so I will fly it as my main's main ship now. This is what I've always wanted, a MW ship that actually looks good.
I'd check again. It says it has both T6 traits.
The torpedo we don't know about because it doesn't list equipment, but those are not unique consoles in any case. It doesn't seem like it would not have the wide angle quantum as every premium Sovereign in game has had that so I don't see why this one would not. And at least for those of us who have another Sov, we can just use our WAQ from that.
As for the LTC sci issue, both Odyssey and Kelvin ship have those, so I guess you have to fly one of them if you want a LTC sci. I do agree it would make a lot of sense for the Galaxy to have one.
definatly lking that Sovvy. it's the best of the bunch stats wise and the sovvy's a nice looking ship too. If you asked me to pick a single ship from this pack I think that'd be it
So, two interesting things of note with the Sovereign:
It doesn't have the Vizier trait
It doesn't have the wide-angle quantum torpedo
I do have the Vizier, so I have both those items, though now I wish I hadn't spent that zen, zen which would bring me back up to having enough zen for this pack (I got it when it was 85% off).
However, given it said "all traits," plus the Defiant came with the quad cannons, those two missing seem odd.
That said, it's MW, so I will fly it as my main's main ship now. This is what I've always wanted, a MW ship that actually looks good.
I'd check again. It says it has both T6 traits.
The torpedo we don't know about because it doesn't list equipment, but those are not unique consoles in any case. It doesn't seem like it would not have the wide angle quantum as every premium Sovereign in game has had that so I don't see why this one would not. And at least for those of us who have another Sov, we can just use our WAQ from that.
OMG, it's a miracle. A blog post has actually been fixed for once (it did not show the other trait when I made the original post)!
Also, the defiant does include the quad phaser cannons, which are equipment. Hence why I made the note.
I do agree it most likely will include it, but I want to point it out, in case there was a mistake somewhere.
Welp completely wrong with the speculations about the Sovereign.
Oh well.
Lets see.
The Ensign Tac is upgraded to a Lt Tac: That is actually pretty decent change. For my Aux2Bat build that means I can free the universal slot for a SCI without loosing much firepower.
The Lt Eng gets a Pilot spec: Kinda worthless for most people I guess, for me in any case.
Cmdr Eng gets Miracle Worker: Strong spec, normal setup. Can get two Abilities there, need to make up for losing System Safety Override.
The Lt Cmdr Universal gets a downgrade to Lt: Probably fair trade off considering the boost for the pretty useless Ensign Tac station.
Overall I think it is more versatile.
Hull, Shield and turn rate get a little boost. Inertia and Impulse stay the same.
+15 weapons power compared to +10 weapons power.
+15 engine power compared to +5 Shield + 5 Aux Power.
I would prefer shield and aux power over engine power since I run Aux2Bat anyway but overall it probably is a straight up upgrade over the Fleet Intel Aussault Cruiser.
The new skin looks nice.
Does that “adjustments to the saucer and engineering hull” mean the extended neck braces from Nemesis?
Trait sounds interesting… just worried about the visuals…
I do not own any NX-class.
Temporal is however a neat spec IMO.
I see they give the Point Defense Warhead away. Well I take it. Now just need a way to get the Dynamic Power Redistributor Module without the Atlas…
5/2 is awesome for escorts but the Lobi had that already.
Lt Cmdr Tac upgraded form Lt Tac/Pilot: A solid boost IMO. I doubt Pilot got used much and more higher Tac on Escort transfers directly to more dmg.
Cmdr Tac/Temp: I doubt anyone will use Temp much there? Then again I'm just that guy who doesn't bother with odd builds.
Lt Eng downgrade from Lt Cmdr Eng: IMO bad trade off for the higher Tac station. Can’t get Aux2Bat with Reverse Shield Polarity any more. Its probably just me but I just love that for surviability.
Lt Cmdr SCI/Temp: Guess Temp goes there and most people will get Recursive Shearing 1.
Ensign Uni: Should have been the trade off for the Tac boost IMO. Well I guess its good for a Polarize Hull, Tac Team or something.
Turnrate and hull goes down a notch, shields go up a tiny notch.
+5 Engine Power turns to Aux Power.
Not sure about the trait. I have no use for it atm.
The Columbia skin actually looks cool. TMP era inspired. I really like it.
Honestly considering the Defiant Warship I see myself not using this NX. The console would be nice if I could get my hands on the Atlas…
Here's hoping there is a Universe Class in there somewhere. 1.3 billion EC is way out of my EC range currently.
But 200 dollars isn't?!?
What does his EC balance have to do with his RL bank account balance? Is it really that strange to you that some people may have more money than time?
Game companies have been exploiting that for years now e.g. UbiSoft time savers...
sucks its the nx and not the atlas, if it was the atlas the DPRM that has waaaaay more value. And far easier to obtain the nx lobi.
But yeah the NPRM and the torp warhead are mainstays of my builds. For heavy survival and heavy heavy mainstay alliance damage and kinetic damage in that two part set and bonus. its an amazing console.
But i do congratulate all feds that did not have the warhead for gaining an amazing console and the ability to easily easily gain a powerful set bonus with it and perhaps the secondary shield projector to get a really really really good set bonus for the three main factions weapon users.
I figure the Ent B/Excelsior won't be in this, but I really think they should put it in instead of the JJPrise since that's more of an alternate universe thing and not in the prime universe.
Here's hoping there is a Universe Class in there somewhere. 1.3 billion EC is way out of my EC range currently.
But 200 dollars isn't?!?
Not if it's an account wide unlock and comes with other stuff. Even though the cheaper bundle is $195, there is value in it. If it has enough of what I want to save me some money. Why not? I get that people are upset over the pricing of these bundles and that is a lot f money to dump into a decade old game built on an engine that is at least 15 years old. If it has enough of things I don't have that I do want in an account wide form, then I definitely will consider buying it. Now, if they bundle a whole bunch of junk in with one ship I want and expect me to pay $195, I definitely won't. I don't think we have heard what specific ships will be in what and if there will be a cheaper bundle as well to appeal to a wider audience.
I haven't looked at the spoilers but at least 5 of these ships as account wide unlocks would get me to buy in.
Universe Class, TOS Connie, KDF TOS D7 (already have a Discovery D7), Romulan TOS D7, Ambassador (already have the account wide Anniversary one), Warship Voyager, TOS Connie Dread (3 nacelle version), Mirror Walker, Mirror Crossfield, Mirror TOS Connie, and the long overdue Vo'Quv,
The only ones on your list that will be in there are [redacted] and the [redacted] . The [redacted] will also be in there.
It's not worth it posting that stuff anymore, the post will be deleted within an hour. Even posts I've made speculating about other related things have been quickly deleted.
The more I think about this bundle, the more I hate what they have done with it. All the other mega bundles could be bought piecemeal. They offered cross faction value. They were cheaper. And they are always there.
For some reason, though, they think that throwing in a bunch of faux box ships raises the value of a pack to the point where it can be more expensive than anything else offered before, when they aren't even box ships a person necessarily wants.
And because of how expensive this is an the fact it is only going to be here a limited time, the issue ultimately ends up being if you want half these ships, you still have to save up $300 of zen if you can't buy it right now, and you have to have that on hand when it reappears. This is wildly stupid business practice. It really is whalebait and not something that people can reasonably be expected to save up for, people who would otherwise buy maybe half the pack, and on their own schedule.
How do you make money by excluding so many potential customers by forcing them to buy stuff they don't want at an unprecedented premium or to not buy at all?
Yes, I will probably buy it, despite about half of it being uninteresting to me. Just because its a box ship doesn't mean I care about it, PWE. I was saving up for whatever the anniversary pack was going to be anyway. I really hope it sells poorly, though, so they don't do this again.
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
I have to say I think the extra point of turn rate, the higher hull, the extra console slot or two, the MW seating, and the extra 10 power makes up for an LT tac instead of ensign and LT uni instead of LTC. It is very clearly the queen of queens.
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> I have to say I think the extra point of turn rate, the higher hull, the extra console slot or two, the MW seating, and the extra 10 power makes up for an LT tac instead of ensign and LT uni instead of LTC. It is very clearly the queen of queens.
It also has Pilot seating .
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
While the Galaxy would not be a meta ship at least it be better tank and have a bit more dps, with a Miracle worker lt. Since its so overloaded with engineering and science really isn't it's strong suit. Also the reference to lt Geordi in 2nd season of next gen.
The oddy also doesn't have a second specialization seat which confuses me, and intel would be a nice combination considering it favors shields and generalist console layout.
Apologies, I should've mentioned that to me it's next to useless as there's no Grav Well capability. On the Vizier and Archon, there is.
I think for Aux2Bat builds, Gravity Well is not that popular, but I could be wrong.
Personally, I love having the ability to slot a Lt.Cmdr science ability.
My biggest issue is however that the EXPLORATION Cruiser doesn't have a Lt.Cmdr Science seat. Come on! How are you going to explore without decent science abilities?
EXACTLY!! I love the Galaxy, but only on-screen. No Lt Cmdr Sci, no deal for a ship.
Yes as far as we are aware all characters get the ships. Except maybe klingons or Klingon aligned characters but they can get the traits.
C-Store ships are always account unlock.
I do have the Vizier, so I have both those items, though now I wish I hadn't spent that zen, zen which would bring me back up to having enough zen for this pack (I got it when it was 85% off).
However, given it said "all traits," plus the Defiant came with the quad cannons, those two missing seem odd.
That said, it's MW, so I will fly it as my main's main ship now. This is what I've always wanted, a MW ship that actually looks good.
On Reddit, Kael said that's a typo, it'll have the Vizier trait, and the enhanced MW Slipstream drive. No one asked about the torpedo, but I imagine that'll be in there too.
I'd check again. It says it has both T6 traits.
The torpedo we don't know about because it doesn't list equipment, but those are not unique consoles in any case. It doesn't seem like it would not have the wide angle quantum as every premium Sovereign in game has had that so I don't see why this one would not. And at least for those of us who have another Sov, we can just use our WAQ from that.
As for the LTC sci issue, both Odyssey and Kelvin ship have those, so I guess you have to fly one of them if you want a LTC sci. I do agree it would make a lot of sense for the Galaxy to have one.
OMG, it's a miracle. A blog post has actually been fixed for once (it did not show the other trait when I made the original post)!
Also, the defiant does include the quad phaser cannons, which are equipment. Hence why I made the note.
I do agree it most likely will include it, but I want to point it out, in case there was a mistake somewhere.
Oh well.
Lets see.
The Ensign Tac is upgraded to a Lt Tac: That is actually pretty decent change. For my Aux2Bat build that means I can free the universal slot for a SCI without loosing much firepower.
The Lt Eng gets a Pilot spec: Kinda worthless for most people I guess, for me in any case.
Cmdr Eng gets Miracle Worker: Strong spec, normal setup. Can get two Abilities there, need to make up for losing System Safety Override.
The Lt Cmdr Universal gets a downgrade to Lt: Probably fair trade off considering the boost for the pretty useless Ensign Tac station.
Overall I think it is more versatile.
Hull, Shield and turn rate get a little boost. Inertia and Impulse stay the same.
+15 weapons power compared to +10 weapons power.
+15 engine power compared to +5 Shield + 5 Aux Power.
I would prefer shield and aux power over engine power since I run Aux2Bat anyway but overall it probably is a straight up upgrade over the Fleet Intel Aussault Cruiser.
The new skin looks nice.
Does that “adjustments to the saucer and engineering hull” mean the extended neck braces from Nemesis?
Trait sounds interesting… just worried about the visuals…
I do not own any NX-class.
Temporal is however a neat spec IMO.
I see they give the Point Defense Warhead away. Well I take it. Now just need a way to get the Dynamic Power Redistributor Module without the Atlas…
5/2 is awesome for escorts but the Lobi had that already.
Lt Cmdr Tac upgraded form Lt Tac/Pilot: A solid boost IMO. I doubt Pilot got used much and more higher Tac on Escort transfers directly to more dmg.
Cmdr Tac/Temp: I doubt anyone will use Temp much there? Then again I'm just that guy who doesn't bother with odd builds.
Lt Eng downgrade from Lt Cmdr Eng: IMO bad trade off for the higher Tac station. Can’t get Aux2Bat with Reverse Shield Polarity any more. Its probably just me but I just love that for surviability.
Lt Cmdr SCI/Temp: Guess Temp goes there and most people will get Recursive Shearing 1.
Ensign Uni: Should have been the trade off for the Tac boost IMO. Well I guess its good for a Polarize Hull, Tac Team or something.
Turnrate and hull goes down a notch, shields go up a tiny notch.
+5 Engine Power turns to Aux Power.
Not sure about the trait. I have no use for it atm.
The Columbia skin actually looks cool. TMP era inspired. I really like it.
Honestly considering the Defiant Warship I see myself not using this NX. The console would be nice if I could get my hands on the Atlas…
What does his EC balance have to do with his RL bank account balance? Is it really that strange to you that some people may have more money than time?
Game companies have been exploiting that for years now e.g. UbiSoft time savers...
But yeah the NPRM and the torp warhead are mainstays of my builds. For heavy survival and heavy heavy mainstay alliance damage and kinetic damage in that two part set and bonus. its an amazing console.
But i do congratulate all feds that did not have the warhead for gaining an amazing console and the ability to easily easily gain a powerful set bonus with it and perhaps the secondary shield projector to get a really really really good set bonus for the three main factions weapon users.
Not if it's an account wide unlock and comes with other stuff. Even though the cheaper bundle is $195, there is value in it. If it has enough of what I want to save me some money. Why not? I get that people are upset over the pricing of these bundles and that is a lot f money to dump into a decade old game built on an engine that is at least 15 years old. If it has enough of things I don't have that I do want in an account wide form, then I definitely will consider buying it. Now, if they bundle a whole bunch of junk in with one ship I want and expect me to pay $195, I definitely won't. I don't think we have heard what specific ships will be in what and if there will be a cheaper bundle as well to appeal to a wider audience.
I haven't looked at the spoilers but at least 5 of these ships as account wide unlocks would get me to buy in.
Universe Class, TOS Connie, KDF TOS D7 (already have a Discovery D7), Romulan TOS D7, Ambassador (already have the account wide Anniversary one), Warship Voyager, TOS Connie Dread (3 nacelle version), Mirror Walker, Mirror Crossfield, Mirror TOS Connie, and the long overdue Vo'Quv,
It's not worth it posting that stuff anymore, the post will be deleted within an hour. Even posts I've made speculating about other related things have been quickly deleted.
For some reason, though, they think that throwing in a bunch of faux box ships raises the value of a pack to the point where it can be more expensive than anything else offered before, when they aren't even box ships a person necessarily wants.
And because of how expensive this is an the fact it is only going to be here a limited time, the issue ultimately ends up being if you want half these ships, you still have to save up $300 of zen if you can't buy it right now, and you have to have that on hand when it reappears. This is wildly stupid business practice. It really is whalebait and not something that people can reasonably be expected to save up for, people who would otherwise buy maybe half the pack, and on their own schedule.
How do you make money by excluding so many potential customers by forcing them to buy stuff they don't want at an unprecedented premium or to not buy at all?
Yes, I will probably buy it, despite about half of it being uninteresting to me. Just because its a box ship doesn't mean I care about it, PWE. I was saving up for whatever the anniversary pack was going to be anyway. I really hope it sells poorly, though, so they don't do this again.
you have your answer. that's why they keep doing this kind of bundle; they sell them.