The Ross Class is really quite disappointing, because it has basically the same bridge officer seating as the Tier 6 Andromeda.
Come on, the ship is called an Exploration Cruiser, but has only a Lt.Science seat, but a Lt.Cmdr Tactical Seat? I am not against the Lt.Cmdr tactical seat, but this makes it more into a Battlecruiser than Exploration Cruiser. Its Lt.Cmdr Engineer should be turned into a Science seat and the Lt. Science seat into an Engineer seat. No ship really needs 7 engineering abilities (even if you can put in a few Command powers on the Commander seat).
But the Defiant is really cool. Wish there had been a completely new costume added on top, but those decals are okay, and the stats are great.
Unfortunately, still no new ship stats released so far.
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The Ross Class is really quite disappointing, because it has basically the same bridge officer seating as the Tier 6 Andromeda.
Come on, the ship is called an Exploration Cruiser, but has only a Lt.Science seat, but a Lt.Cmdr Tactical Seat? I am not against the Lt.Cmdr tactical seat, but this makes it more into a Battlecruiser than Exploration Cruiser. Its Lt.Cmdr Engineer should be turned into a Science seat and the Lt. Science seat into an Engineer seat. No ship really needs 7 engineering abilities (even if you can put in a few Command powers on the Commander seat).
But the Defiant is really cool. Wish there had been a completely new costume added on top, but those decals are okay, and the stats are great.
Unfortunately, still no new ship stats released so far.
I just wish it had miracle worker LT seat instead of command. That in my opinion would make it more attractive while still being command ship.
I hope there is a Pilot excelsior, command seating does fit it too. But every time I think of the excelsior class I can't help but hear sulu say fly her apart then !! I also would like to see a full spec oddy.
There also hasn't been any mention of what those new traits actually do?
The Ross Class is really quite disappointing, because it has basically the same bridge officer seating as the Tier 6 Andromeda.
Come on, the ship is called an Exploration Cruiser, but has only a Lt.Science seat, but a Lt.Cmdr Tactical Seat? I am not against the Lt.Cmdr tactical seat, but this makes it more into a Battlecruiser than Exploration Cruiser. Its Lt.Cmdr Engineer should be turned into a Science seat and the Lt. Science seat into an Engineer seat. No ship really needs 7 engineering abilities (even if you can put in a few Command powers on the Commander seat).
But the Defiant is really cool. Wish there had been a completely new costume added on top, but those decals are okay, and the stats are great.
Unfortunately, still no new ship stats released so far.
I just wish it had miracle worker LT seat instead of command. That in my opinion would make it more attractive while still being command ship.
I could be wrong, but I don't think there's been any dual-spec ships that were not in the Promo box, so that was probably never going to happen.
The Ross Class is really quite disappointing, because it has basically the same bridge officer seating as the Tier 6 Andromeda.
Come on, the ship is called an Exploration Cruiser, but has only a Lt.Science seat, but a Lt.Cmdr Tactical Seat? I am not against the Lt.Cmdr tactical seat, but this makes it more into a Battlecruiser than Exploration Cruiser. Its Lt.Cmdr Engineer should be turned into a Science seat and the Lt. Science seat into an Engineer seat. No ship really needs 7 engineering abilities (even if you can put in a few Command powers on the Commander seat).
But the Defiant is really cool. Wish there had been a completely new costume added on top, but those decals are okay, and the stats are great.
Unfortunately, still no new ship stats released so far.
I just wish it had miracle worker LT seat instead of command. That in my opinion would make it more attractive while still being command ship.
I could be wrong, but I don't think there's been any dual-spec ships that were not in the Promo box, so that was probably never going to happen.
True but they could break their own rules they kinda already are with the latest bundles anyways.
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Odds are they will allow for individual purchase. Almost every ship in the game is available that way. Only ones that aren't are the old T5 Jem'Hadar and the old T5 Galor. Maybe the Miradorn Raider if you also consider the Picard bundle. However those were also lockbox/lobi ships.
From a business standpoint, it makes sense to sell them individually as well as in the bundle, because you can appeal to a wider audience. Not everyone can afford the big packs, but a lot more people can afford one or two at any given time.
Odds are they will allow for individual purchase. Almost every ship in the game is available that way. Only ones that aren't are the old T5 Jem'Hadar and the old T5 Galor. Maybe the Miradorn Raider if you also consider the Picard bundle. However those were also lockbox/lobi ships.
From a business standpoint, it makes sense to sell them individually as well as in the bundle, because you can appeal to a wider audience. Not everyone can afford the big packs, but a lot more people can afford one or two at any given time.
The thing is, it's looking like there's a very real possibility of there being as many as 2 promo box ships, 2 lockbox ships, and a lobi ship in the bundle. If that is indeed the case then the only real precedent we have is the Miradorn, which is currently not sold separately from it's bundle, so they could really go either way on this. Hopefully Kael will be able to answer this question during the next livestream.
Not surprised that it's (very likely) 100% FED. I had hoped for a D'deridex and Negh'var but that was pushing it. I also hoped for an Excelsior and it looks like that won't happen. Oh well, the Defiant does look pretty sweet and hopefully the Sovereign stats end up being really good.
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Yeah, it's a shame how the excelsior isn't in there either, Sulu did captain an excelsior and that would've been a good excuse to add it as a hero ship, not to mention the actual excelsior in the game has a very limiting setup.
Not sure what will be in the pack yet but might be worth it. The small one at least. How are those few extra items worth 10k Zen more? No idea who did the pricing on this but that's just ridiculous.
Okay, if that image is true, then there will be 11 if I'm counting the image correctly after rubbing my eyes several times & I thought it had been said it was a 10 ship bundle so 11 would be better but...
Its a screenshot from the recent mission. That 11th ship... is the player ship. The rest were NPCs.
Okay, if that image is true, then there will be 11 if I'm counting the image correctly after rubbing my eyes several times & I thought it had been said it was a 10 ship bundle so 11 would be better but...
Its a screenshot from the recent mission. That 11th ship... is the player ship. The rest were NPCs.
Well that certainly makes sense, & thanks, but I was hoping Cryptic was going to try to be sly & slip some surprise for everybody buying the bundle lol, oh well, thanks again. I just cannot fathom why Cryptic would only do Fed ships for a 10th anniversary bundle & dismiss the other factions/ships so easily, I mean there are iconic ST ships besides Fed ships.
Odds are they will allow for individual purchase. Almost every ship in the game is available that way. Only ones that aren't are the old T5 Jem'Hadar and the old T5 Galor. Maybe the Miradorn Raider if you also consider the Picard bundle. However those were also lockbox/lobi ships.
From a business standpoint, it makes sense to sell them individually as well as in the bundle, because you can appeal to a wider audience. Not everyone can afford the big packs, but a lot more people can afford one or two at any given time.
The thing is, it's looking like there's a very real possibility of there being as many as 2 promo box ships, 2 lockbox ships, and a lobi ship in the bundle. If that is indeed the case then the only real precedent we have is the Miradorn, which is currently not sold separately from it's bundle, so they could really go either way on this. Hopefully Kael will be able to answer this question during the next livestream.
I bet you that they are variants. It's a shame no pilot excelsior though.
Odds are they will allow for individual purchase. Almost every ship in the game is available that way. Only ones that aren't are the old T5 Jem'Hadar and the old T5 Galor. Maybe the Miradorn Raider if you also consider the Picard bundle. However those were also lockbox/lobi ships.
From a business standpoint, it makes sense to sell them individually as well as in the bundle, because you can appeal to a wider audience. Not everyone can afford the big packs, but a lot more people can afford one or two at any given time.
The thing is, it's looking like there's a very real possibility of there being as many as 2 promo box ships, 2 lockbox ships, and a lobi ship in the bundle. If that is indeed the case then the only real precedent we have is the Miradorn, which is currently not sold separately from it's bundle, so they could really go either way on this. Hopefully Kael will be able to answer this question during the next livestream.
I bet you that they are variants.
Of course they are variants, that's what all of these ships are, wasn't saying the actual lockbox versions will be in the bundle.
Ask Kael about whether the ships would be sold seperately? Not likely that he would know. Remember, he was totally baffled on a previous Livestream as to where all this 10 ship talk came from!!
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Ask Kael about whether the ships would be sold seperately? Not likely that he would know. Remember, he was totally baffled on a previous Livestream as to where all this 10 ship talk came from!!
My understanding is that question was about ten FREE ships.
> @coldnapalm said: > (Quote) > > Excuse me...there are 4 factions...yeah I realize that the Roms and Doms are kinda screwed as factions...but there are 4.
I know that. Your kdf bretheren sympathise. However rom and Dominion characters can still pick fed side and enjoy this should they choose. Kdf mains? Just a big middle finger. And before someone comes along telling me just to make a Fed, I'd be happy to...if someone is willing to front the same investment I've already made on ships, doffs, rep grinds, Dil sinks and the like.
Ask Kael about whether the ships would be sold seperately? Not likely that he would know. Remember, he was totally baffled on a previous Livestream as to where all this 10 ship talk came from!!
My understanding is that question was about ten FREE ships.
I just always figured it was Kael avoiding answering the question directly with his "acting".
I still think if all these "legendary" ships are Fed only that displays Cryptic's apathy & mindset towards KDFs & Roms for sure, I'll look the other way on Dom since much newer.
What bothers me and keeps me from buying lately is that it seems always when i just buy something, BOEM, another discount comes along, there are so many discounts after eachother that it seems that i always pay to much.
the writing was on the wall from day 1 with this game... the kdf side was tacked on to a fed game. they had to build that up after game launched and safe money says that anything outside of fed does not pay.
This is basically the TOS expan... Fed Only. Given how the stories are written... in a Fed centric sort of way...
what i think is that they need to add a treasure chest that contains all the consoles to claim... that way KDF players can get the gear. they can claim the new account unlock traits already once the new ship is xp maxed out.
yes I have rom toons (both sides), jhd toons (both sides) and kdf toons as well. this is just a ship you fly for a period of time for the ship trait. if they removed the faction restrictions... would kdf toons fly a fed ship? I am honestly thinking of having all my fed toons fly a scim w/ur drone (power levels only reason holding me back)
Odds are they will allow for individual purchase. Almost every ship in the game is available that way. Only ones that aren't are the old T5 Jem'Hadar and the old T5 Galor. Maybe the Miradorn Raider if you also consider the Picard bundle. However those were also lockbox/lobi ships.
From a business standpoint, it makes sense to sell them individually as well as in the bundle, because you can appeal to a wider audience. Not everyone can afford the big packs, but a lot more people can afford one or two at any given time.
They'll NEVER put the Lockbox or Promo Box ships in that bundle for sale on the C-Store individually, ever. And remember after the 'sale price' promo ends - it's $300 U.S. worth of Zen for the base pack ($450 for the pack with the 'extras' that IMO really ain't worth it for another $150 YMMV); and yes, I'm sure the Pack will be price reduced when they do their occasional 20% - 30% off promos...
But yeah, those Lock Box and Promo Box ships will never be put up for sale individually on the C-Store.
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"Hero ships" to me suggests main character/series ships from the shows. Galaxy, Defiant, Connie, Sovereign, Voyager, Discovery, NX, etc. Given the visual revamp on the Heavy Cruiser, I expect a Stargazer. Not sure how you round out the 10 (multiple movie & show Connies seems silly). But I wouldn't expect any KDF/Rom/Jem/etc ships - because none of those have been main character/'hero' ships in any of the media.
Odds are they will allow for individual purchase. Almost every ship in the game is available that way. Only ones that aren't are the old T5 Jem'Hadar and the old T5 Galor. Maybe the Miradorn Raider if you also consider the Picard bundle. However those were also lockbox/lobi ships.
From a business standpoint, it makes sense to sell them individually as well as in the bundle, because you can appeal to a wider audience. Not everyone can afford the big packs, but a lot more people can afford one or two at any given time.
They'll NEVER put the Lockbox or Promo Box ships in that bundle for sale on the C-Store individually, ever. And remember after the 'sale price' promo ends - it's $300 U.S. worth of Zen for the base pack ($450 for the pack with the 'extras' that IMO really ain't worth it for another $150 YMMV); and yes, I'm sure the Pack will be price reduced when they do their occasional 20% - 30% off promos...
But yeah, those Lock Box and Promo Box ships will never be put up for sale individually on the C-Store.
Idk, my gut tells me you're right but just two months ago I was convinced that a variation of a lockbox or promo ship would never, ever make it to the C-Store in any capacity whatsoever. Since Cryptic seems to have flipped on that particular idea I have no idea what to think right now, could be bundle only or the ships could each have something like a 6k zen individual price tag to make the bundle more attractive.
"Hero ships" to me suggests main character/series ships from the shows. Galaxy, Defiant, Connie, Sovereign, Voyager, Discovery, NX, etc. Given the visual revamp on the Heavy Cruiser, I expect a Stargazer. Not sure how you round out the 10 (multiple movie & show Connies seems silly). But I wouldn't expect any KDF/Rom/Jem/etc ships - because none of those have been main character/'hero' ships in any of the media.
"Hero ships" to me suggests main character/series ships from the shows. Galaxy, Defiant, Connie, Sovereign, Voyager, Discovery, NX, etc. Given the visual revamp on the Heavy Cruiser, I expect a Stargazer. Not sure how you round out the 10 (multiple movie & show Connies seems silly). But I wouldn't expect any KDF/Rom/Jem/etc ships - because none of those have been main character/'hero' ships in any of the media.
Then don't call it an "anniversary pack" when they clearly aren't paying any sort of lip service to the other three factions in the game. Call it a "Federation hero pack" or something.
"Hero ships" to me suggests main character/series ships from the shows. Galaxy, Defiant, Connie, Sovereign, Voyager, Discovery, NX, etc. Given the visual revamp on the Heavy Cruiser, I expect a Stargazer. Not sure how you round out the 10 (multiple movie & show Connies seems silly). But I wouldn't expect any KDF/Rom/Jem/etc ships - because none of those have been main character/'hero' ships in any of the media.
Ah, never mind. Hadn't seen the end of the 2nd episode when I wrote this.
Yeah, the end of the 2nd episode gives us our ten ships. Though I suspect that the ship we should be driving at the end is the Khitomer to round out all the ships.
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Come on, the ship is called an Exploration Cruiser, but has only a Lt.Science seat, but a Lt.Cmdr Tactical Seat? I am not against the Lt.Cmdr tactical seat, but this makes it more into a Battlecruiser than Exploration Cruiser. Its Lt.Cmdr Engineer should be turned into a Science seat and the Lt. Science seat into an Engineer seat. No ship really needs 7 engineering abilities (even if you can put in a few Command powers on the Commander seat).
But the Defiant is really cool. Wish there had been a completely new costume added on top, but those decals are okay, and the stats are great.
Unfortunately, still no new ship stats released so far.
I just wish it had miracle worker LT seat instead of command. That in my opinion would make it more attractive while still being command ship.
I hope there is a Pilot excelsior, command seating does fit it too. But every time I think of the excelsior class I can't help but hear sulu say fly her apart then !! I also would like to see a full spec oddy.
There also hasn't been any mention of what those new traits actually do?
I could be wrong, but I don't think there's been any dual-spec ships that were not in the Promo box, so that was probably never going to happen.
From a business standpoint, it makes sense to sell them individually as well as in the bundle, because you can appeal to a wider audience. Not everyone can afford the big packs, but a lot more people can afford one or two at any given time.
The thing is, it's looking like there's a very real possibility of there being as many as 2 promo box ships, 2 lockbox ships, and a lobi ship in the bundle. If that is indeed the case then the only real precedent we have is the Miradorn, which is currently not sold separately from it's bundle, so they could really go either way on this. Hopefully Kael will be able to answer this question during the next livestream.
Its a screenshot from the recent mission. That 11th ship... is the player ship. The rest were NPCs.
Well that certainly makes sense, & thanks, but I was hoping Cryptic was going to try to be sly & slip some surprise for everybody buying the bundle lol, oh well, thanks again. I just cannot fathom why Cryptic would only do Fed ships for a 10th anniversary bundle & dismiss the other factions/ships so easily, I mean there are iconic ST ships besides Fed ships.
Of course they are variants, that's what all of these ships are, wasn't saying the actual lockbox versions will be in the bundle.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
My understanding is that question was about ten FREE ships.
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> Excuse me...there are 4 factions...yeah I realize that the Roms and Doms are kinda screwed as factions...but there are 4.
I know that. Your kdf bretheren sympathise. However rom and Dominion characters can still pick fed side and enjoy this should they choose. Kdf mains? Just a big middle finger. And before someone comes along telling me just to make a Fed, I'd be happy to...if someone is willing to front the same investment I've already made on ships, doffs, rep grinds, Dil sinks and the like.
I just always figured it was Kael avoiding answering the question directly with his "acting".
I still think if all these "legendary" ships are Fed only that displays Cryptic's apathy & mindset towards KDFs & Roms for sure, I'll look the other way on Dom since much newer.
This is basically the TOS expan... Fed Only. Given how the stories are written... in a Fed centric sort of way...
what i think is that they need to add a treasure chest that contains all the consoles to claim... that way KDF players can get the gear. they can claim the new account unlock traits already once the new ship is xp maxed out.
yes I have rom toons (both sides), jhd toons (both sides) and kdf toons as well. this is just a ship you fly for a period of time for the ship trait. if they removed the faction restrictions... would kdf toons fly a fed ship? I am honestly thinking of having all my fed toons fly a scim w/ur drone (power levels only reason holding me back)
They'll NEVER put the Lockbox or Promo Box ships in that bundle for sale on the C-Store individually, ever. And remember after the 'sale price' promo ends - it's $300 U.S. worth of Zen for the base pack ($450 for the pack with the 'extras' that IMO really ain't worth it for another $150 YMMV); and yes, I'm sure the Pack will be price reduced when they do their occasional 20% - 30% off promos...
But yeah, those Lock Box and Promo Box ships will never be put up for sale individually on the C-Store.
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Idk, my gut tells me you're right but just two months ago I was convinced that a variation of a lockbox or promo ship would never, ever make it to the C-Store in any capacity whatsoever. Since Cryptic seems to have flipped on that particular idea I have no idea what to think right now, could be bundle only or the ships could each have something like a 6k zen individual price tag to make the bundle more attractive.
George and Gracie disagree.
Then don't call it an "anniversary pack" when they clearly aren't paying any sort of lip service to the other three factions in the game. Call it a "Federation hero pack" or something.
Ah, never mind. Hadn't seen the end of the 2nd episode when I wrote this.
Hrm.