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  • gizmox64gizmox64 Member Posts: 322 Arc User
    lucho80 wrote: »
    I see we've stooped down to multiple events at the same time now. Grind squared activated.

    Don't try FFBE, so many events at once you'd go bonkers :)

    Why limited? Keep the event but maybe make those types of rewards limited.

    "What would Kirk do?"
    Does that imply we will get some neat mini puzzle to hack into the halogrid and make changes?

    Please have "Choice Marks" be a Choice from every type of Mark.

    ...Bring back Elachi Gate....

    ...Allow LUA Add-ons...
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    chrdragon1 wrote: »
    in the movie where Admiral krik educatis a bunch of rookies in the kobayashi Maru event he fully admits afterwards that he changed that program, where he hack the computer befor hand so it nolonger was a no win senario.

    here an out take about what happend:
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    The test was the problem, and Kirk solved that problem. It’s never explicitly stated what Kirk changed when he **** the program (in a Star Trek novel it’s said that Kirk reprogrammed the Klingons to have a respectful fear of “The” Captain Kirk), but the gist of what we’re to understand is that Kirk didn’t hack the Kobayashi Maru to win, but rather to make it winnable. When Saavik accuses Kirk of cheating, he replies “I changed the conditions of the test!”

    That’s key. Cheating is creating an unfair advantage, which Kirk would argue was the entire basis of the test. By changing the conditions - by evening out the odds - Kirk actually made the whole thing more fair, the opposite of cheating.

    Tell that to Orci and Kurtzman, who have Kirk clearly cheat in the 2009 Star Trek reboot. He sits in his captain’s chair, munching an apple like an ****, while the enemy ships' shields suddenly drop for no reason at all. His hack was not to even the playing field but rather to give himself an unfair advantage, to have the Klingons be unable to defend themselves. The reboot Kirk has the victory simply handed to him. It’s hard not to side with Spock in this version of events.
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    hope this gives as all an example of the No win senario! and how krik did it!

    simply put the only way to win it is to reprogram it so its win able .
    Wasn't he still out-numbered 3 to 1?
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    Why limited keep this queue around this is NWS was one of the most played queues when it was around and we all know that this game could do with queues THAT PEOPLE PLAY

    They probably get tired of the dps monsters blowing through the NWS w/o breaking a sweat? ;)
    Now after the nerf, they want to see if those same people can still do that.
    This event is a test to see if more nerfing is needed.
    Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    I will be done either on July 1 or 2.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,468 Arc User
    @ambassadorkael#6946

    Please can you nudge the Dev's to make sure they have installed AFK penalties for this event!!!

    I want to actually have a decent run, and not have to be concerned about someone not even bothering to play who still gets a reward!!!
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    lucho80 wrote: »
    I see we've stooped down to multiple events at the same time now. Grind squared activated.

    A weekend event during a long-term event? Shocking! They've only been doing those since weekend events became a thing. Last year we had Lohlunat, Episode replay and Temporal Agent recruitment running all at once for at least a week. Sure, this is the newest type of weekend event, and with a newly-repurposed map to go with it, but it's still just another weekend event.
    This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,336 Arc User
    qqqqii wrote: »
    lnblade wrote: »
    Will future events award non-phaser versions of the weapons?
    Nope. They don't care enough about non-fed factions or ship design concepts.

    So, I guess all those alien ships are just "Federation" ships?

    The ship designers have given T6 Klingon and Romulan Vesta equivalents, Miranda equivalents, the first T6 Ferasan vessel, a T6 dhelan which essentially marks the close of all launch Legacy of Romulus ships now at T6 and there's likely more still coming.

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  • lighte007lighte007 Member Posts: 390 Arc User
    I'll be done on July 14th because yeah... I've been playing off and on. Sooo yeah, I am behind on my Voucher Getting quest. lol
    The Rising of the Delta is the best expansion ever, and people love it to death because it is a good day to die in the endless struggle for supremacy of your own conviction. (A spin off of the Delta Rising is the best expansion ever and all the players love it.)
  • gerwalk0769gerwalk0769 Member Posts: 1,095 Arc User
    The event looks interesting. Thank you.

    A torpedo or mine prize option would be nice as well.
    Joined STO in September 2010.
  • bigblackafricabigblackafrica Member Posts: 151 Arc User
    chrdragon1 wrote: »
    in the movie where Admiral krik educatis a bunch of rookies in the kobayashi Maru event he fully admits afterwards that he changed that program, where he hack the computer befor hand so it nolonger was a no win senario.

    here an out take about what happend:
    _______________________________________________________________
    The test was the problem, and Kirk solved that problem. It’s never explicitly stated what Kirk changed when he **** the program (in a Star Trek novel it’s said that Kirk reprogrammed the Klingons to have a respectful fear of “The” Captain Kirk), but the gist of what we’re to understand is that Kirk didn’t hack the Kobayashi Maru to win, but rather to make it winnable. When Saavik accuses Kirk of cheating, he replies “I changed the conditions of the test!”

    That’s key. Cheating is creating an unfair advantage, which Kirk would argue was the entire basis of the test. By changing the conditions - by evening out the odds - Kirk actually made the whole thing more fair, the opposite of cheating.

    Tell that to Orci and Kurtzman, who have Kirk clearly cheat in the 2009 Star Trek reboot. He sits in his captain’s chair, munching an apple like an ****, while the enemy ships' shields suddenly drop for no reason at all. His hack was not to even the playing field but rather to give himself an unfair advantage, to have the Klingons be unable to defend themselves. The reboot Kirk has the victory simply handed to him. It’s hard not to side with Spock in this version of events.
    ________________________________________________________________________
    hope this gives as all an example of the No win senario! and how krik did it!

    simply put the only way to win it is to reprogram it so its win able .
    Wasn't he still out-numbered 3 to 1?

    That just means the odds were against him. Maybe James T. is part Corellian.
  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
    edited June 2017
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    I can haz playable version? Pweeze?
    Unless the Devs get very creative, I can't see using a ship like that in most battles ( dropping the fuel pods as mines for example ).

    That said, I bet it becomes an Admialty Card soon.
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    Sig? What sig? I don't see any sig.
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    leemwatson wrote: »
    @ambassadorkael#6946

    Please can you nudge the Dev's to make sure they have installed AFK penalties for this event!!!

    I want to actually have a decent run, and not have to be concerned about someone not even bothering to play who still gets a reward!!!

    private ques is your answer... i personally am hoping the KM blows up in 30 secs from the start so I can start my next toon. Once done then I'd try "for reals"
  • ambassadorkael#6946 ambassadorkael Member, Administrator Posts: 2,678 Community Manager
    leemwatson wrote: »
    @ambassadorkael#6946

    Please can you nudge the Dev's to make sure they have installed AFK penalties for this event!!!

    I want to actually have a decent run, and not have to be concerned about someone not even bothering to play who still gets a reward!!!

    It shouldn't be an issue, but please let me know if there's a ton of AFKing going on.
  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,015 Arc User
    Good fun :)
    Wave 17 and then we lost
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      -Lord Commander Solar Macharius
    • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,225 Arc User
      In the description of the gear it states "Account Bound on Pickup"... so, while it's not true account unlock, it can still be shifted between toons on account
    • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,367 Arc User
      qqqqii wrote: »
      lnblade wrote: »
      Will future events award non-phaser versions of the weapons?
      Nope. They don't care enough about non-fed factions or ship design concepts.

      So, I guess all those alien ships are just "Federation" ships?

      The ship designers have given T6 Klingon and Romulan Vesta equivalents, Miranda equivalents, the first T6 Ferasan vessel, a T6 dhelan which essentially marks the close of all launch Legacy of Romulus ships now at T6 and there's likely more still coming.
      That Ferasan T6 isn't just the first tier 6 for that race, it's the first official ship for that race at all in STO and you could easily be the first look into the asthetics of that race since TAS (the feresans come from TAS but the name was changed to avoid possible legal issues as said episode was orginally a cross-over with Larry Niven's known space franchice)
    • ambassadorkael#6946 ambassadorkael Member, Administrator Posts: 2,678 Community Manager
      So just as a heads up, it seems like right now you can't reclaim the items on other characters when you get it on one, we're fixing that.

      And yes, the beams are account bound while the canons are character bound, which is also being fixed. (And won't matter once we fix the reclaimable thing anyway. :) )
    • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
      You know, for a ship that has lost all power, the Kobayashi Maru sure seems to love to fly where it shouldn't. XD
      #TASforSTO
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    • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
      it was a flipbook of lag for me. thanks for the true choice of marks though
      Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."

      "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

    • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,225 Arc User
      So just as a heads up, it seems like right now you can't reclaim the items on other characters when you get it on one, we're fixing that.

      And yes, the beams are account bound while the canons are character bound, which is also being fixed. (And won't matter once we fix the reclaimable thing anyway. :) )

      Good, and it's looks like i can get only 1 token (forgot the actual name) per account daily...
    • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
      saber1973a wrote: »
      So just as a heads up, it seems like right now you can't reclaim the items on other characters when you get it on one, we're fixing that.

      And yes, the beams are account bound while the canons are character bound, which is also being fixed. (And won't matter once we fix the reclaimable thing anyway. :) )

      Good, and it's looks like i can get only 1 token (forgot the actual name) per account daily...
      It's an account unlock, so that's all you need
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    • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
      You know, for a ship that has lost all power, the Kobayashi Maru sure seems to love to fly where it shouldn't. XD

      you'd think these cargo ships would be armed by this point.
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    • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
      Now to begin a plan that no cadet in the history of Starfleet has ever tried before! It'll surely beat the simulation.

      *swivels captain's chair*

      Helm, set a collision course to the Kobayashi Maru!

      Ah, approach #205. It's rare for people to do this on the first attempt.
      Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
    • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
      Really!?! A freakin' Doomday Machine! What did this crew do to aggro every alien race in the galaxy! :D
      Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
    • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
      Really!?! A freakin' Doomday Machine! What did this crew do to aggro every alien race in the galaxy! :D

      I actually LOL when I saw that, then tried to remembered the last time I equipped an Hargh'peng Torpedo. * GULP *
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      Sig? What sig? I don't see any sig.
    • themadprofessor#9835 themadprofessor Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
      Really!?! A freakin' Doomday Machine! What did this crew do to aggro every alien race in the galaxy! :D

      Oh let's see...

      1) Destroyed three Birds of Prey and killed their crew to a man, even though they told you they were here to take out an Undine and were right, and didn't apologize to them afterwards.

      2) Stole a KDF ship and tried to keep it.

      3) Killed countless Klingon crews in battle.

      4) Did a whole lot of "shoot first, ask questions later" situations.

      5) Declared martial law on a planet and aggravated the Orion Syndicate.

      And that's just in the first story arc.

      If you go back and look at everything the player character does, yes it's for the greater good, but they are a real douchenozzle about it.
      Space Barbie Extraordinaire. Got a question about Space Barbie? Just ask.

      Things I want in STO:

      1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
      2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
      3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
      4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
      5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
      6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
      7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
      8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
    • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
      Are we supposed to be able to get Marks if you do this more that once per day?

      I'm asking because I went through it a 2nd time and didn't get any Marks.
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      Sig? What sig? I don't see any sig.
    • mystarlite#1876 mystarlite Member Posts: 109 Arc User
      I just did this and a wave of Fed ships blew up the Kobayashi Maru and i didn't get any marks or the Weekend Event Voucher. So if we lose on the Fed wave we get nothing?
    • dragunfyrdragunfyr Member Posts: 41 Arc User
      I've rec'd the Weekend Event Voucher on one of my eight toons. Bugged......
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