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  • alexvio1alexvio1 Member Posts: 389 Arc User
    I'm definitely don't want to see this stupid event again. Sompek event was too much better.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Yes I misunderstand the level of competency of a pug group 3 times. I will not do that again and will just spend my time doing other games or other content.
    As someone who already finished it.... If you can't solo the first two waves, you're not good enough to be allowed to whine about the quality of PUGs..
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    yes i like the idea of a whining license.


    I guess the mission is okay. some will like it more. i liked the ground one better. Why? LAG.

    all of these interesting effects and hazards are swell. i would like to enjoy them. but it's impossible with the lag. Yes, they improved it some with their fix (and i think increased the difficulty) but not enough to make it really enjoyable for me.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    At least in Sompek you didn't have a braindead Freighter Captain that continually puts itself into Harm's Way. :)
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    At least in Sompek you didn't have a braindead Freighter Captain that continually puts itself into Harm's Way. :)
    Yeah, like flying into Thalaron clouds... :/
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  • ash352ash352 Member Posts: 235 Arc User
    Yes I misunderstand the level of competency of a pug group 3 times. I will not do that again and will just spend my time doing other games or other content.

    I'm not sure how it's possible to fail before round 3. My last run had someone who just sat there AFK the entire time and someone targeting one ship at a time and we STILL got to round 4. I wasn't even on a properly geared character, my phaser user is still rocking MK 12 gear on a few ships, and still did my fair share of damage just pressing BOFF skills whenever I felt like it. If your pug group failed that hard then you got match made with people in all white Mk X gear who had no boff powers slotted because that's what you were using as well. It only gets hard once you pass round 3 and they start doing all the weird combo's, like the Doomsday Machine just randomly spawning for a round that you have to avoid.
  • crazedmike#4189 crazedmike Member Posts: 37 Arc User
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    I must brag on behalf of myself and my fleet mates. 42 rounds in Kobayashi Maru... BOO YA.
  • sarah2774sarah2774 Member Posts: 238 Arc User
    Yes I misunderstand the level of competency of a pug group 3 times. I will not do that again and will just spend my time doing other games or other content.
    As someone who already finished it.... If you can't solo the first two waves, you're not good enough to be allowed to whine about the quality of PUGs..

    If they can solo the first 3 waves, they would not need to whine.
    ash352 wrote: »
    Yes I misunderstand the level of competency of a pug group 3 times. I will not do that again and will just spend my time doing other games or other content.

    I'm not sure how it's possible to fail before round 3. My last run had someone who just sat there AFK the entire time and someone targeting one ship at a time and we STILL got to round 4. I wasn't even on a properly geared character, my phaser user is still rocking MK 12 gear on a few ships, and still did my fair share of damage just pressing BOFF skills whenever I felt like it. If your pug group failed that hard then you got match made with people in all white Mk X gear who had no boff powers slotted because that's what you were using as well. It only gets hard once you pass round 3 and they start doing all the weird combo's, like the Doomsday Machine just randomly spawning for a round that you have to avoid.

    It's possible. I am using Mk XIV gear and most of my gear is epic. I did 6 runs. (2 finish time event, 1 till 10 round and the other 3 only to round 3 so did not get voucher) The 3 failed round no one was healing except me and they were killing too slow. I used protomatter to heal but as soon as Kobayashi Maru moved out of range it dies really fast. You will fail if you are the only one healing.
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  • salvation4salvation4 Member Posts: 1,167 Arc User
    The rewards from the event are UR MKXII but no madifiers what so ever? Did I miss something??

    And yeah at times the que maching for the event seems screwed..Your paired with players that like to forget the maru and so am basically left to defend and heal it and basically stay stuck with it where ever it goes..Most of the time the other players are getting blown to bits atleast twice per round and I'm just using UR MKXII fleet weapons and some other stuff that are MKXIII..
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,667 Arc User
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    I must brag on behalf of myself and my fleet mates. 42 rounds in Kobayashi Maru... BOO YA.

    ^_^ V
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    it is certainly possible to lose in the first 3 rounds. it depends where the ship wanders and what it wanders into. a doomsday device for example. today i saw some really good healers save the ship in round 3 when it was down to 20% and would have been killed before finishing the round. Not many players are able and aware enough to heal like that. after the recent sci nerf i have almost no healing at all and barely fix the ship 1%.
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  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    I failed it during round 3 once out of 6 PUG runs. I guess that makes it like Russian Roulette. It was enjoyable overall, but lag from everything made it annoying at times.
    This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    sarah2774 wrote: »
    Yes I misunderstand the level of competency of a pug group 3 times. I will not do that again and will just spend my time doing other games or other content.
    As someone who already finished it.... If you can't solo the first two waves, you're not good enough to be allowed to whine about the quality of PUGs..
    If they can solo the first 3 waves, they would not need to whine.
    My point was that getting to a high level requires an entire team of people capable of soloing the first few waves. If you can't do that, then it's not just your team that sucks.
    sarah2774 wrote: »
    ash352 wrote: »
    Yes I misunderstand the level of competency of a pug group 3 times. I will not do that again and will just spend my time doing other games or other content.
    I'm not sure how it's possible to fail before round 3. My last run had someone who just sat there AFK the entire time and someone targeting one ship at a time and we STILL got to round 4. I wasn't even on a properly geared character, my phaser user is still rocking MK 12 gear on a few ships, and still did my fair share of damage just pressing BOFF skills whenever I felt like it. If your pug group failed that hard then you got match made with people in all white Mk X gear who had no boff powers slotted because that's what you were using as well. It only gets hard once you pass round 3 and they start doing all the weird combo's, like the Doomsday Machine just randomly spawning for a round that you have to avoid.
    It's possible. I am using Mk XIV gear and most of my gear is epic. I did 6 runs. (2 finish time event, 1 till 10 round and the other 3 only to round 3 so did not get voucher) The 3 failed round no one was healing except me and they were killing too slow. I used protomatter to heal but as soon as Kobayashi Maru moved out of range it dies really fast. You will fail if you are the only one healing.
    I liked Extend Shields, it's not a true heal but rather a way to prevent damage.
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,667 Arc User
    yes i like the idea of a whining license.


    ~Ish tempted to make one for folks~ <_< >_>

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  • nommo#5819 nommo Member Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    This event was fun in my opinion. Was it flawed with some glitches? Yes, but nothing too breaking to where I wouldn't play it. One time it skipped-out on rewarding the pug I was in at the end which seemed to be a moderate occurrence so I waited patiently, did other things, then was rewarded the 2nd attempt. Nice weapons though I'm still not sure hope effective they'll be for game play I look forward to testing them out. Also, it would've been nice to offer a extra marks or dilithium reward for those willing to complete it every day upon the Reputation available. Once I got the 3 day completed there was no opportunity for anything like that in Reputation. Thanks again, Cryptic for this Kobayashi Maru & well done to those players that to many MANY levels. None of my pugs never passed 8. Lastly, well done on the livestream showcasing this event. That definitely stokes the excitement for these type of events.
  • salvation4salvation4 Member Posts: 1,167 Arc User
    Uh yesterday I got qued into an active session where the team already there was in the second round and I spawned with the new summer event carrier right into the center of the Voth bombardment..Is that normal? Also the trait progression is not effected by this event..

    As for the reward weapons..Still wondering and confused as to the no modifiers on them..

    But all in all a fun event to do..
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  • kaarruukaarruu Member Posts: 133 Arc User
    I didn't enjoy this anywhere near as much as I did Sompek. The concept isn't bad, but the execution has some issues. Points for making timed and untimed versions of the queue; this alleviates much of the friction between people who want to get their tokens quickly and those who want to give it their best shot.

    The Maru moves. What the fork? They've lost all power, yet they're gallantly flying out of heal AoEs and into incoming enemy swarms. More like lost all power of reason. The fact that the supposedly disabled ship moves around like a drunken lemming both works against the scenario's premise and feels like a extra hurdle thrown in just because.

    Acceleration. What is this supposed to be? Makes no sense in the scenario and is very irritating. CC without a counter is the worst kind of dev cheese. This petty trolling was what wrecked the few good PUGs I found myself in during the event. Every single time. I was not amused.

    There's just too much annoyance at once for this to be fun. Make the Maru hold still like it should and cut the "tee hee, full thrusters for everyone, all the time" pancake - it'll be much more PUGable.
  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    yeah there was a lot of potential here for different strategies and situations. however, to use this potential it requires you to survive a long time like we did with the ground scenario. Before the patch the pugs would survive around 8 rounds. After the patch on Friday it was between 1 and 4 - usually 4. That's not enough time to explore the possibilities and really get into it.

    I don't mind so much that the ship moves but it should survive better. The scenario was tuned to a well organized premade. This is not the bread and butter of who played this. So most just got their tokens and waved goodbye to what could have been a very interesting mission. I suggest tuning it so the average pug can do between 10-15 rounds for the timed version then you can leave the untimed version as it is.
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  • gerwalk0769gerwalk0769 Member Posts: 1,095 Arc User
    I did not get my last Weekend Voucher.

    There is a lot of potential for growth for this event. The number of enemy ships and their speed heavily favored wide arc weapons (beams and 180 degree cannons) and AOE attacks. I rarely could use torpedoes (I only use torpedoes) as I tracked the Maru and tried to engage a lone ship here or there (the Borg were the only exception). My weapons were pretty useless and I wished that the weapons ports could supplement and enhance my Sci magic. I only played the event more than once a day on the first two days as I grew frustrated with the limited design.

    I appreciated how powers like Scramble Sensors and healing were valuable but I wished that Viral Matrix and Mask Enemy Signature was of some use.

    I did not enjoy this event as much as Sompek. For starters Sompek spawned less npcs so both AOE and single target attacks were viable.
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  • zwfzwf Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    I have been trying to use vouchers since 3rd day of event. I have 3 vouchers. Can not open/find store by clicking voucher, nor under reputation. Any help or clues?
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    zwf wrote: »
    I have been trying to use vouchers since 3rd day of event. I have 3 vouchers. Can not open/find store by clicking voucher, nor under reputation. Any help or clues?
    It's an event rep project. But if you didn't start the project already you might as well toss the vouchers into your bank to collect dust.
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  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
    I have 4 extras ( started off with two from Kempek's ). Next times one of these types of Events run I won't even need to do it if I don't want to. :p
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  • nommo#5819 nommo Member Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    I have 4 extras ( started off with two from Kempek's ). Next times one of these types of Events run I won't even need to do it if I don't want to. :p

    Unless Cryptic decides that is not their intent with these type of events, they want players to participate, & they make each event have their own specific voucher for that event only.

  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    It says specifically on the Voucher that it is good for any Weekend Event.
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    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • salvation4salvation4 Member Posts: 1,167 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    It says specifically on the Voucher that it is good for any Weekend Event.

    The heck?! I missed that and discarded 3 vouchers last night before log off!!
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