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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    i have people trying to hit me and I'm trying to do an elegant dance for Spock on Vulcan! please deal with that griefer!
  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    nabreeki wrote: »
    Orions are actually green, though. It doesn't make any sense for them not to be?

    They can have either green or pale gray skin.

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Orion
    Green people don't have to be.... little.
  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    i am offended! someone is blocking my attempts to dance for joy to celebrate today on Vulcan!
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Oh, enough about green Orions already. The last time there was a Thread about that in October 2015 many were banned. It did not end well. If your intention is to recreate that fiasco then the Title fits.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    jonsills wrote: »
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    wylonus wrote: »
    nope, Repe, i do have a book on orionians and few books for other aliens.
    orionians really do have 4 races, like earth people have several ethnic races, also i am charter member of starfleet that handled sci-fi cons.
    i can prove it, but now, i am out of town at this time to link a book and pics as soon i get home by tuesday.

    i didnt say bleached white.

    or you can look up on Bing.com and they have several and may lead you to find a book in hurry or wait til i get back. just type orionians.

    I do have to ask though. WTH is an Orionian? I've heard of Orions, but Orionians?​​
    That's what we call a "red flag" that someone's talking through their hat.

    "Risans" or "Risians" gets stuck in my craw, too. The former is correct, but the latter is what is universally used. The Planet is question is Risa, not Risia, so there's an exta i being added incorrectly.
    And of course there's no chance whatsoever that a species intentionally has a different name than their homeworld. Humans must come from the planet Huma and klingons from the planet Klingo. :smirk:

    BTW, while we're nitpicking, species names are not supposed to be capitalized.
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    wylonus wrote: »
    nope, Repe, i do have a book on orionians and few books for other aliens.
    orionians really do have 4 races, like earth people have several ethnic races, also i am charter member of starfleet that handled sci-fi cons.
    i can prove it, but now, i am out of town at this time to link a book and pics as soon i get home by tuesday.

    i didnt say bleached white.

    or you can look up on Bing.com and they have several and may lead you to find a book in hurry or wait til i get back. just type orionians.

    I do have to ask though. WTH is an Orionian? I've heard of Orions, but Orionians?​​
    That's what we call a "red flag" that someone's talking through their hat.

    "Risans" or "Risians" gets stuck in my craw, too. The former is correct, but the latter is what is universally used. The Planet is question is Risa, not Risia, so there's an exta i being added incorrectly.
    And of course there's no chance whatsoever that a species intentionally has a different name than their homeworld. Humans must come from the planet Huma and klingons from the planet Klingo. :smirk:

    BTW, while we're nitpicking, species names are not supposed to be capitalized.
    Who says species names aren't capitalized? We don't usually bother with Humans, because we aren't aware of any other sapient species (yet, anyway).

    On a side note, after Gene L. Coon first came up with Klingons, Roddenberry said that their homeworld was called Kling. (Needless to say, that one didn't make it into canon, thank Q.)
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,283 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    wylonus wrote: »
    nope, Repe, i do have a book on orionians and few books for other aliens.
    orionians really do have 4 races, like earth people have several ethnic races, also i am charter member of starfleet that handled sci-fi cons.
    i can prove it, but now, i am out of town at this time to link a book and pics as soon i get home by tuesday.

    i didnt say bleached white.

    or you can look up on Bing.com and they have several and may lead you to find a book in hurry or wait til i get back. just type orionians.

    I do have to ask though. WTH is an Orionian? I've heard of Orions, but Orionians?
    That's what we call a "red flag" that someone's talking through their hat.

    "Risans" or "Risians" gets stuck in my craw, too. The former is correct, but the latter is what is universally used. The Planet is question is Risa, not Risia, so there's an exta i being added incorrectly.
    And of course there's no chance whatsoever that a species intentionally has a different name than their homeworld. Humans must come from the planet Huma and klingons from the planet Klingo. :smirk:

    BTW, while we're nitpicking, species names are not supposed to be capitalized.

    if anything, humans shouldn't be humans and should instead be either earthlings (Earth), terrans (Terra), solarians (Sol III), or gaians (Gaia)

    though, admittedly, neither of those two latter names show up too often as alternate names for Earth​​
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    #LegalizeAwoo

    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"


    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
    Passion and Serenity are one.
    I gain power by understanding both.
    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
    The Force is united within me.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    wylonus wrote: »
    nope, Repe, i do have a book on orionians and few books for other aliens.
    orionians really do have 4 races, like earth people have several ethnic races, also i am charter member of starfleet that handled sci-fi cons.
    i can prove it, but now, i am out of town at this time to link a book and pics as soon i get home by tuesday.

    i didnt say bleached white.

    or you can look up on Bing.com and they have several and may lead you to find a book in hurry or wait til i get back. just type orionians.

    I do have to ask though. WTH is an Orionian? I've heard of Orions, but Orionians?
    That's what we call a "red flag" that someone's talking through their hat.

    "Risans" or "Risians" gets stuck in my craw, too. The former is correct, but the latter is what is universally used. The Planet is question is Risa, not Risia, so there's an exta i being added incorrectly.
    And of course there's no chance whatsoever that a species intentionally has a different name than their homeworld. Humans must come from the planet Huma and klingons from the planet Klingo. :smirk:

    BTW, while we're nitpicking, species names are not supposed to be capitalized.

    if anything, humans shouldn't be humans and should instead be either earthlings (Earth), terrans (Terra), solarians (Sol III), or gaians (Gaia)

    though, admittedly, neither of those two latter names show up too often as alternate names for Earth​​
    Oh, how I hate sci-fi that calls humans terrans (fortunately, the others you mention rarely show up). Calling a species <planetname>ians is the worst kind of lazy writing and reverting humans to that as cover up is even worse.

    It's especially absurd in settings where nobody's actually from Earth.
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  • nickodaemusnickodaemus Member Posts: 711 Arc User
    "Name a thing, and you will know it."

    Things have to be given a designation until we learn what the proper designation is.
  • nickodaemusnickodaemus Member Posts: 711 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    Oh, how I hate sci-fi that calls humans terrans (fortunately, the others you mention rarely show up). Calling a species <planetname>ians is the worst kind of lazy writing and reverting humans to that as cover up is even worse.

    It's especially absurd in settings where nobody's actually from Earth.

    Agreed; except for circumstances in which monitoring of one by another has allowed one party to know something of the other in advance.

    Speaking of lazy writing, the name "Borg" is an example of this. Cybernetic organism, shortented to cyborg, then to borg. Strictly a human naming process. But then we cannot make up alien tongues that we would understand, could we? Star Trek reawakened popular culture to zombies, adding the "novel" aspect of them being from the far flung reaches of space. Except that came from "Night of the Living Dead" in a way, too, it simply took the form of radiation being one probable cause of the dead rising. All of this has in it origins the work of H.P. Lovecraft. He at least knew we wouldn't be able to pronounce certain names, and typically gave them arcane ones from forgotten lore.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    It's especially absurd in settings where nobody's actually from Earth.
    In Niven's Known Space stories, "flatlander" is generally an insulting term used toward anyone who's never left their homeworld. There's one exception - if you were born on Earth, no matter where you go after that, you'll be called a flatlander. (Then again, Beowulf Shaeffer had a similar problem, at least for someone who works as a ship's pilot - being from We Made It, one of the planets of Procyon A, he was known everywhere in Known Space as a "crashlander".)
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  • rndfluctuation#1470 rndfluctuation Member Posts: 813 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    Note that some players do not mean to interfere/harass. It could be a misclick (I had) or some testing of how things look or some other thing, or what people may think benign non interupting non distracting fun not near NPC or consoles etc or some other things not meant to hurt.

    I do know some non verbal things bother (for me for example, what which stops interaction/makes a surprise noise or sometimes, not always, too strong light or many colors all of a sudden (I do like light or colors)/move my chars but not only especially in interaction/killing NPC or hurting other player's chars etc all bother me, or some bad or rude interaction between chars unwanted. This is not a full list.) but not all things are clear or are same between players. (bombing chars and probably NPC/stopping or hindering or hiding part of interaction, is probably something to consider bothering all/most.)

    In some cases, it's good to politely ask. If it's my forum name's account (me), by all means, ask. Some people won't react to that well but I think you can see some examples on forum/game who may be OK to ask.
  • nickodaemusnickodaemus Member Posts: 711 Arc User
    True. I take that into account before reporting them. It's not hard to tell the difference, and if I have any doubt I skip it.
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    a white orion is like a purple klingon with neon green eyes, its got nothing to do with star trek and its obscene

    How is a purple Klingon obscene? Ridiculous maybe. You have taken this too far to be taken seriously.
    "Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
  • dongswaggerdongswagger Member Posts: 3
    edited February 2017
    This thread.
  • blueweakblueweak Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    Greetings Civilians!

    On behalf of all of Starfleet Dental and affiliates, as their sworn Dear Leader, I apologize for any inconvenience they may have caused.
    I hereby pardon all members and affiliates for these actions. Play the game how you see fit to provide a fun gaming environment for all!


    Butts
    Dear Leader of Starfleet Dental
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    Oh, how I hate sci-fi that calls humans terrans (fortunately, the others you mention rarely show up). Calling a species <planetname>ians is the worst kind of lazy writing and reverting humans to that as cover up is even worse.

    It's especially absurd in settings where nobody's actually from Earth.

    Agreed; except for circumstances in which monitoring of one by another has allowed one party to know something of the other in advance.

    Speaking of lazy writing, the name "Borg" is an example of this. Cybernetic organism, shortented to cyborg, then to borg. Strictly a human naming process. But then we cannot make up alien tongues that we would understand, could we? Star Trek reawakened popular culture to zombies, adding the "novel" aspect of them being from the far flung reaches of space. Except that came from "Night of the Living Dead" in a way, too, it simply took the form of radiation being one probable cause of the dead rising. All of this has in it origins the work of H.P. Lovecraft. He at least knew we wouldn't be able to pronounce certain names, and typically gave them arcane ones from forgotten lore.
    "Borg" isn't really a human name, though. It's what they call themselves (or perhaps, an english universal translation of the name they call themselves). And given that they tend to name pretty much everything with just a serial number...you wouldn't expect them to have a creative name for themselves. In fact, I do suspect they only have a name at all because they need one for the "We are the Borg" -speech.
  • wylonuswylonus Member Posts: 471 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    just got home and very tired.
    does it matter that we call them Orions or Orionians?

    ok, i got the link. http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Orion
    first of all. it is 5 races for them, thought it was 4.

    Green Orions, standard and most often encountered than all other orions. they are slavemasters

    ok, i got the correct names this time.

    Ruddy Orions, reddish/golden skin, as i said, they work behind the scenes, always in shadows, they avoid or reveal themselves to outsiders, they are royality, and wealthy merchants

    blue were wrong, it is actually "Grey Orions", the grunts of the lowest ranks, most of them are labor caste, and most of them were thrown as cannon fodders and easy expendables.

    4th are still the "Feral Orions", only few survive and send away as exiles on the islands with no means of going back to mainland unless if they overcome gaurds and steal the boats, but no boats had come near for centuries, they use teleport and fresh gaurd duty rotations to beam with security codes.

    5th, half-breed orions, and they are outlaw and considered as scums, often put to death or sold to other slavemasters.

    this is last time to talk about orions, here the link and look up in search engine Bing.com for "orions of star trek", otherwise you get constellation of stars, it got tons of pictures.
    dont argue with me, it is proof they exist but may not be in the game, we only see green orions.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,007 Arc User
    @wylonus that's memory beta and thus irrelevant. In canon at least, Orions are green.​​
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,283 Arc User
    and sickly gray, as per TAS​​
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    #LegalizeAwoo

    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"


    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
    Passion and Serenity are one.
    I gain power by understanding both.
    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
    The Force is united within me.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,007 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    and sickly gray, as per TAS

    It's still green, though. A pale one, but it is imaginable that not every orion has the exact same skin complexion. Druk is referring to people that simply use orions to play bikini clad humans, although his remarks of obscenity of course are part of his bit pig-3.gif However in TAS there is the problem of their uniforms being gre (actually skin color green) and thus it required their skin to have some contrast - it was a questionable colouring choice for sure, although I'm not certain the colour blind person worked on the whole show. Purple Klingon uniforms and Kzinti (whose whole existence in Star Trek is problematic as it was a cross-over with anover universe) are a acknowledged mistake and do not really exist, just as the appearance of a wrong uniform doesn't mean the characters changed departments.​​
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    This is a constant honeypot for him. His last Thread on Green Orions in October 2015 ended in many getting banned. Don't let him pull you in on this Forum grief attempt.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    That's their own fault. No one is forced to post here - just resist the urge to post in case of questionable remarks or stirring and use the report button when necessary.

    That's all I will say on that subject.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    and sickly gray, as per TAS

    It's still green, though. A pale one, but it is imaginable that not every orion has the exact same skin complexion. Druk is referring to people that simply use orions to play bikini clad humans, although his remarks of obscenity of course are part of his bit pig-3.gif
    People wouldn't use orions to play bikini-clad humans, if the game didn't discriminate against other races wearing bikinis.
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