I play the game. I have six captains that I play...my main I try to maximize.
My other characters I play just to play the game. At this point since I don't STF...It mostly involves doffing and CE. My Rom character is getting most of my focus as he's only lvl 54 and playing through DR. All the others are at lvl 60 at various levels of specializing.
Your pain runs deep.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
At least, that's what I do. I've come to realize that in terms of the forum going population, I'm vocally more considerate of others than the majority of posters here.
Exactly! There's nothing wrong with running elites at 75k just as there's nothing wrong with running normals. Everyone plays their own way, it should be all good.
How is creating new and better ways to level toons - for new players, returning players, or existing players wanting to make alts - a bad business decision? That sounds plenty good to me.
Alts are great you need 5 to play STO efficiently with 1 main
Originally Posted by jellico1 View Post
maybe a tiny minority of players think leveling new characters up then deleting them and doing it again is fun !
but not most players...yes im speaking most players because I am in touch with most players leveling up new toons is a grind its not exciting playing the same content over and over that's why the term Grind exists
-chipg7
That's quite the assumption you're making. I have no idea what the ratio of hate/love for leveling is, but there are plenty of players in this thread and elsewhere who have expressed a lot of excitement over Delta Recruitment and leveling a new toon. Might not be the majority, might not be the minority, who knows - you and I certainly don't know, that's for sure.
No it isn't a assumption its a fact.Once you achieve some experience in creating and managing a Fleet spend years in contact with thousands of players like myself and some others here have you can make statements like I have
I do know because I have that ingame experience
New players like you may be excited, the story missions are still new to you, Veterans with 3, 5 ,10 characters under there belt which in our fleet happens pretty quick once we explain the advantages of alts to them...Are really burned out on making new characters
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Exactly! There's nothing wrong with running elites at 75k just as there's nothing wrong with running normals. Everyone plays their own way, it should be all good.
Yeah, but there's something wrong with running advanced at 1-3k, and running normals at 50k+.
What would it take to convince you to start using proper tags on quotes?
Any other issues aside, it makes it difficult to read through your post. You seem to have three quotes in there, including one from yourself. I'm not even positive where the quotes end and your comments begin.
"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society." - Aristotle
Exactly! There's nothing wrong with running elites at 75k just as there's nothing wrong with running normals. Everyone plays their own way, it should be all good.
If you run a normal at 75k DPS your trolling the new players in that STF and most likely they will get a afk penality because you will blow everything up before they can get a shot off
So yea that's wrong and its not good
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
chipg7 gave the answer I would have given, and you already twisted it into your 'Elite STF Or GTFO' stance. It doesn't even cross your mind that someone may just be happy to run missions, blow up the odd Klingon/Fed, and gradually improve the build they have to their own tastes. Throw in your dismissiveness of royalsoverign's counter-point and that's pretty much all I need to know.
I guess you've nothing else to add then? Music to my ears.
My other characters I play just to play the game. At this point since I don't STF...It mostly involves doffing and CE. My Rom character is getting most of my focus as he's only lvl 54 and playing through DR. All the others are at lvl 60 at various levels of specializing.
Doffing is repetitive and ultimately doesn't serve no purpose, it's a means to an end, a slower level progression (if you don't wish to level up with missions/other content).
You say you don't STF, but then say you CE. That's an ever-so-slight contradiction right there. STF's are PvE, and CE is PvE, so...
I have five characters, three of which I actively (yet casually) play, the other two I am drying up before eventually deleting. Why? Because I don't have time for them truthfully. One is a FED Science, the other is a ROM Science. The Republic character is the 4th Republic character I have created in my time with the game, each time I create one, I seemingly end up getting annoyed with how Cryptic have left the mess (that is the Republic) that I subsequently delete.
I haven't truly enough time to focus on three characters, though I'll stick with them. The game for me isn't about blitzing through PvE after PvE; if anything I get most enjoyment when doing things with my fleet, heck all of my ships are using XII gear (purple) with the odd exception. I have no interest in maxing everything out, but I likewise have no interest in doing what I have thus far accomplished all over again.
Yeah, but there's something wrong with running advanced at 1-3k, and running normals at 50k+.
What would it take to convince you to start using proper tags on quotes?
Any other issues aside, it makes it difficult to read through your post. You seem to have three quotes in there, including one from yourself. I'm not even positive where the quotes end and your comments begin.
simply does not work for me when I hit the quote button
when double quotes are involved
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
That's excatly the problem with most of the Snide Comments in this Thread ... stupid rants out of nowhere, about how "many evil whiners" are in here, without even reading the Thread (except the Headline) ... because there aren't that many ...
It's funny when people complain about the toxicity of "Complainers" ... when they don't even exist ... and the only "toxicity" is their own ...
PS : Just read Taco's first response ...
First complaint was about lack of information from the marketing department. It was within the first 5 posts. Your first post on this thread, #17 echo'd that complaint with a hilarious prediction that the lack of onfirmation would cause most posters to think this event will include new story missions from 1-60, with blog posts clearly indicating the events stop at 50 either means you think most posters on this board are stupid, or that you didn't actually read the blog.
Given that your response to me is about complaints not being there and me not reading the thread, this is kind of funny.
The floor's open, fellow players. While I understand there are concerns and complains, please keep those to other threads. This one is for Taco!
Midly optimistic, but I'll keep that in the closet till Taco's bosses lets out the actuall/full list of mystery perks, instead of dribble text and promises.
Doffing is repetitive and ultimately doesn't serve no purpose, it's a means to an end, a slower level progression (if you don't wish to level up with missions/other content).
You say you don't STF, but then say you CE. That's an ever-so-slight contradiction right there. STF's are PvE, and CE is PvE, so...
I guess you are right. I'll specifiy. I do the events if I like the rewards. I have never done the winter events nor did I do the last Q event. CE rewards Dil and I am saving up for a T6 ship for my Rom...who may get shafted if rumors of the T6 Sovereign drop....not because I want an endgame ship but the Sovy is my second fav Enterprise behind the original. All of my toons are at level 60. No more missions...save for the occasional Argala run when they are close to getting that next Spec point. I don't do the non-event STFs. No real need since save for my Main everyone is geared the way I want them to be.
I proceed at my own pace and play as I want. I have a level 60 Tac in the Refit Connie zooming around the Delta Quadrant as we speak.
Your pain runs deep.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
First complaint was about lack of information from the marketing department. It was within the first 5 posts. Your first post on this thread, #17 echo'd that complaint with a hilarious prediction that the lack of onfirmation would cause most posters to think this event will include new story missions from 1-60
That's not a "prediction" ... just read the responses to the original Blog ... they're already in there ... btw who said anything about "most people" you're just twisting words now -> "most" =/= "there are even some people" ...
, with blog posts clearly indicating the events stop at 50 either means you think most posters on this board are stupid, or that you didn't actually read the blog.
Doesn't really matter if it's, 1-10, 1-50, or 1-60 there are no new Story Missions (like "SOME" people obviously believed) ... your just nitpicking now, out of hostility ... -> q.e.d.
Given that your response to me is about complaints not being there and me not reading the thread, this is kind of funny.
We probably have different definitions of "complaints" & "whining", yours seems to be that you can't say anything remotly critical about anything (like the lack of information, even after Taco acknowleged this) ... & even if most of your comment is postive ...
Patch Notes : Resolved an Issue, where people would accidently experience Fun.
That's not a "prediction" ... just read the responses to the original Blog
Doesn't really matter if it's 1-50 or 1-60 there are no new Story Missions ...
We probably have different definitions of "complaints" & "whining", yours seems to be that you can't say any remotly critical about anything ... even if most of your comment is postive ...
Yeah, I use the word "complaint" to mean a statement that a situation is unsatisfactory or unacceptable. What you're describing is something managers call the "compliment sandwhich" where you say something positive, then complain, then say something else that's positive. But the compliment bread doesn't actually turn the complaint meat into a compliment. And normally I'm okay with complaints. Don't get me wrong, complaints are valid feed back aswell in any other thread. Sure, some complaints get to be hilariously out of proportion, but still complaints are valid most of the time.
But THIS thread is stated, explicitely, to not be for complaints. This thread is a place that was created to explicitely focus on just the positive, without rehashing all the same complaining and whining that has been dogging every other Delta Recruitment event thread that people have tried to start since the event was first introduced. In essence, the people who make complaints in this thread, even as "PS's" that follow rather hollow compliments, have missed the purpose of this thread and they deserve to have that explained to them. Even if they think the explanation is a "rant" that "comes out of nowhere" because they couldn't imagine their inability to follow simple instructions might cause someone to notice.
In short, you'd get the exact same snide comment from me if you walked past the 'quiet please, reading room' sign, and then started yelling in the library. If you want to complain about lack of information, find any of the other Delta Recruitment event threads.
In short, you'd get the exact same snide comment from me if you walked past the 'quiet please, reading room' sign, and then started yelling in the library. If you want to complain about lack of information, find any of the other Delta Recruitment event threads.
You should tell that to Taco ... he was "complaining" about the "lack of information" (but I guess, I can't even respond to Taco, because he responded to this ""complaint"", just like I did) ... seriously every Thread that only allows "one opinion" is kind of stupid ... sorry real opinions are little bit more diverse in the real world ... everything has it's ups and downs ...
Besides ... it's only from your limited POV ... Taco already acknowledged & understands the "lack of information" & the "concerns" some people might have because of it -> so this might actually lead to something positive, and maybe more Information ... most "constructive criticism" works that way ... it's kind of obvious that you can't see it this way, though ...
Patch Notes : Resolved an Issue, where people would accidently experience Fun.
Yeah, I use the word "complaint" to mean a statement that a situation is unsatisfactory or unacceptable. What you're describing is something managers call the "compliment sandwhich" where you say something positive, then complain, then say something else that's positive. But the compliment bread doesn't actually turn the complaint meat into a compliment. And normally I'm okay with complaints. Don't get me wrong, complaints are valid feed back aswell in any other thread. Sure, some complaints get to be hilariously out of proportion, but still complaints are valid most of the time.
But THIS thread is stated, explicitely, to not be for complaints. This thread is a place that was created to explicitely focus on just the positive, without rehashing all the same complaining and whining that has been dogging every other Delta Recruitment event thread that people have tried to start since the event was first introduced. In essence, the people who make complaints in this thread, even as "PS's" that follow rather hollow compliments, have missed the purpose of this thread and they deserve to have that explained to them. Even if they think the explanation is a "rant" that "comes out of nowhere" because they couldn't imagine their inability to follow simple instructions might cause someone to notice
In short, you'd get the exact same snide comment from me if you walked past the 'quiet please, reading room' sign, and then started yelling in the library. If you want to complain about lack of information, find any of the other Delta Recruitment event threads.
The OP already started out by dismissing all comments that don't fit into his positive box as whinining and attempting to restrict the feedback so that only his concept of what is acceptable is allowed so pardon me if I take offense to it. That's like hosting a political debate and claiming all are welcome to come but then mysteriously the third party candidate is refused a seat at the table because his or her views aren't quite mainstream enough. There's a term for that in politics and it's called double speak. You could also call it tyranny masked as tolerance.
You should tell that to Taco ... he was "complaining" about the "lack of information" (so I can't even respond to Taco ?) ... serioulsy every Thread that only allows "one opinion" is kind of stupid ... sorry real opinions are little bit more diverse in the real world ...
Besides ... it's only from your limited POV ... Taco already acknowledged & understands the "lack of information" & the "concerns" some people might have because of it -> so this might lead to something positive, and maybe more Information ... most "constructive criticism" works that way ... it's kind of obvious that you can't see it this way, though ...
And I've acknowledged the lack of information in the very first thread about this two weeks ago. I don't care that your complaint is valid. Hell, I don't even care that you ignored the rules of common decency and the simple requests of the original poster by posting a complaint. I also don't care that Taco shares our view that more information could have been provided because that doesn't make what you did okay. But if it were just there, I wouldn't have even posted a response to you. Rude people with opinions are a dime a dozen on the internet.
But you went a step further and, as I was responding to an entirely different person who was feeling unfairly maligned for doing exactly what you did, as I was failing to explain to him why complaints in a "no complaints" thread may be leading to some snide responses. Your response was to tell me that I was wrong, that my "rant" was "out of nowhere" and that if I had "read" this thread, I'd see that there were no complaints. And that the toxicity in this community was only in my heart. I proved that claim hilariously wrong within the first 5 posts of this thread. Past that, I don't particularly care for, or have an opinion, on your views regarding whatever else you're trying to talk about.
But you went a step further and, as I was responding to an entirely different person who was feeling unfairly maligned for doing exactly what you did, as I was failing to explain to him why complaints in a "no complaints" thread may be leading to some snide responses.
Since the "snide comments" weren't made by yourself (until later) ... how could you even think it was about you ... I was just telling you to actually read those "Snide Comments" in context, which you according to yourself didn't read, while blindly supporting hostility...
Your response was to tell me that I was wrong, that my "rant" was "out of nowhere" and that if I had "read" this thread, I'd see that there were no complaints.
No it wasn't ... it was mostly about the other 2-5 guys earlier in this Thread I already responded to ... you're obviously right about the "reading" - part, though ...
PS : Please turn down on the "B&W", "Them & Us" ... sorry for having a different & more diverse opinion ...
PPS : There is still a huge difference between - "You Suck", "Complaints", "Constructice Criticism" etc ... doesn't help if you just keep throwing everything in one basket ...
Patch Notes : Resolved an Issue, where people would accidently experience Fun.
I am slightly more hopeful this will not be destructive, after seeing from the recent blog that one of my top 3 DR grievances--autofails--may well be set to be properly addressed. As I mentioned in my post as to why I was worried, that prior track record concerns me, but I did allow the possibility that a new EP could help Cryptic recover. I would like to hope this recent development is a sign in that direction.
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Not directed at any specific individual, but if the shoe fits...
Why is it absolutely necessary to turn every single attempt to make a positive thread into a frigging train wreck?
Stop the arguments and incivility, all of you who are doing it. I don't care why you're doing it. I care that you're derailing this thread.
If you don't want to support Delta Recruiting, that's fine. There are other open threads where you can make your opinions known. If you don't support it and see nothing positive about it, you don't need to post here.
If you do support Delta Recruiting, that's fine. I suggest you stop replying to the people who insist on trying to turn this into another argument.
There is absolutely no reason to bicker with each other over it.
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I read relatively little about Delta Recruitment, so from what I gather, it's designed to help new players catch up to veteran players by shrinking the gap.
I support this. We really need new blood in this game.
My only issue is that these new players will likely leave the game after hitting level 50 and seeing for themselves what a grind it is at that point, in terms of leveling, gear, and upgrading. It's a good move, but Cryptic has a long, LONG way to go towards restoring player confidence in the game's future.
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The OP already started out by dismissing all comments that don't fit into his positive box as whinining and attempting to restrict the feedback so that only his concept of what is acceptable is allowed so pardon me if I take offense to it.
Actually, I'd asked that the negatives be kept to other threads, and admitted straight up there were legitimate concerns. To quote myself:
The floor's open, fellow players. While I understand there are concerns and complains, please keep those to other threads. This one is for Taco!
I'd made this thread to collect some positive feedback because Taco expressed his disheartened feelings. I'd hoped that I could get a bunch of the positive feedback into one spot, for his easy reading. I wanted to reach out to a great guy and hopefully lift his spirits - not only with my voice, but the voice of others as well.
I was going to reply to other comments on here as well... but Bluegeek hit it out of the park. I can't really follow that up, so I'll quote it again (in the appropriate colour )
Why is it absolutely necessary to turn every single attempt to make a positive thread into a frigging train wreck?
Stop the arguments and incivility, all of you who are doing it. I don't care why you're doing it. I care that you're derailing this thread.
If you don't want to support Delta Recruiting, that's fine. There are other open threads where you can make your opinions known. If you don't support it and see nothing positive about it, you don't need to post here.
If you do support Delta Recruiting, that's fine. I suggest you stop replying to the people who insist on trying to turn this into another argument.
There is absolutely no reason to bicker with each other over it.
I've been active in other Delta Recruitment threads, putting forward my views on the debate. This was not a thread I created to continue that debate, nor was it a thread designed to end, or even ignore, that debate.
Thanks to everyone who shared some good vibes. It was really nice to see that there were a lot of positive, happy, or otherwise nicely-worded comments in this thread
Not directed at any specific individual, but if the shoe fits...
Why is it absolutely necessary to turn every single attempt to make a positive thread into a frigging train wreck?
Stop the arguments and incivility, all of you who are doing it. I don't care why you're doing it. I care that you're derailing this thread.
If you don't want to support Delta Recruiting, that's fine. There are other open threads where you can make your opinions known. If you don't support it and see nothing positive about it, you don't need to post here.
If you do support Delta Recruiting, that's fine. I suggest you stop replying to the people who insist on trying to turn this into another argument.
There is absolutely no reason to bicker with each other over it.
In a perfect world (believe it or not, no pun intended), this doesn't happen. I would think that a forum moderator, such as yourself, would be used to this by now. You can voice your opinion on how things are SUPPOSED to work, but trolls will be trolls.
That being said, I still stick by my opinion in order to keep this a bit more upbeat.
I don't have any hard numbers, but most of the player-base went back to their mains, using alts as farmers, rather than actually PLAYING them anyway. Why not just make a new farmer that gives account-wide bonuses, instead of not getting a bonus from your current farmers?
I genuinely don't see anything wrong with Delta Recruiting. If you don't want to roll a new alt and want to keep grinding the same STFs with the same old characters then go ahead.
I'm looking forward to, getting a new free characters, replaying some old content with a new twist (which we now get DIL for as well Finally), having the lore fleshed out and getting account wide bonuses for the trouble.
Also MMOs need players to exist so any drive to bring in new players can only be a good thing.
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I play the game. I have six captains that I play...my main I try to maximize.
My other characters I play just to play the game. At this point since I don't STF...It mostly involves doffing and CE. My Rom character is getting most of my focus as he's only lvl 54 and playing through DR. All the others are at lvl 60 at various levels of specializing.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Exactly! There's nothing wrong with running elites at 75k just as there's nothing wrong with running normals. Everyone plays their own way, it should be all good.
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
What would it take to convince you to start using proper tags on quotes?
Any other issues aside, it makes it difficult to read through your post. You seem to have three quotes in there, including one from yourself. I'm not even positive where the quotes end and your comments begin.
If you run a normal at 75k DPS your trolling the new players in that STF and most likely they will get a afk penality because you will blow everything up before they can get a shot off
So yea that's wrong and its not good
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
I guess you've nothing else to add then? Music to my ears.
Doffing is repetitive and ultimately doesn't serve no purpose, it's a means to an end, a slower level progression (if you don't wish to level up with missions/other content).
You say you don't STF, but then say you CE. That's an ever-so-slight contradiction right there. STF's are PvE, and CE is PvE, so...
I have five characters, three of which I actively (yet casually) play, the other two I am drying up before eventually deleting. Why? Because I don't have time for them truthfully. One is a FED Science, the other is a ROM Science. The Republic character is the 4th Republic character I have created in my time with the game, each time I create one, I seemingly end up getting annoyed with how Cryptic have left the mess (that is the Republic) that I subsequently delete.
I haven't truly enough time to focus on three characters, though I'll stick with them. The game for me isn't about blitzing through PvE after PvE; if anything I get most enjoyment when doing things with my fleet, heck all of my ships are using XII gear (purple) with the odd exception. I have no interest in maxing everything out, but I likewise have no interest in doing what I have thus far accomplished all over again.
simply does not work for me when I hit the quote button
when double quotes are involved
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
First complaint was about lack of information from the marketing department. It was within the first 5 posts. Your first post on this thread, #17 echo'd that complaint with a hilarious prediction that the lack of onfirmation would cause most posters to think this event will include new story missions from 1-60, with blog posts clearly indicating the events stop at 50 either means you think most posters on this board are stupid, or that you didn't actually read the blog.
Given that your response to me is about complaints not being there and me not reading the thread, this is kind of funny.
I think that multi toggle next to the quote button is just for show.
Midly optimistic, but I'll keep that in the closet till Taco's bosses lets out the actuall/full list of mystery perks, instead of dribble text and promises.
Untill then .. suspicion eyes from me
I proceed at my own pace and play as I want. I have a level 60 Tac in the Refit Connie zooming around the Delta Quadrant as we speak.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
That's not a "prediction" ... just read the responses to the original Blog ... they're already in there ... btw who said anything about "most people" you're just twisting words now -> "most" =/= "there are even some people" ...
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1396331
It's really hilarious that the only thing that you can see in #17 is a "complaint" ... explains a lot ...
Doesn't really matter if it's, 1-10, 1-50, or 1-60 there are no new Story Missions (like "SOME" people obviously believed) ... your just nitpicking now, out of hostility ... -> q.e.d.
We probably have different definitions of "complaints" & "whining", yours seems to be that you can't say anything remotly critical about anything (like the lack of information, even after Taco acknowleged this) ... & even if most of your comment is postive ...
Yeah, I use the word "complaint" to mean a statement that a situation is unsatisfactory or unacceptable. What you're describing is something managers call the "compliment sandwhich" where you say something positive, then complain, then say something else that's positive. But the compliment bread doesn't actually turn the complaint meat into a compliment. And normally I'm okay with complaints. Don't get me wrong, complaints are valid feed back aswell in any other thread. Sure, some complaints get to be hilariously out of proportion, but still complaints are valid most of the time.
But THIS thread is stated, explicitely, to not be for complaints. This thread is a place that was created to explicitely focus on just the positive, without rehashing all the same complaining and whining that has been dogging every other Delta Recruitment event thread that people have tried to start since the event was first introduced. In essence, the people who make complaints in this thread, even as "PS's" that follow rather hollow compliments, have missed the purpose of this thread and they deserve to have that explained to them. Even if they think the explanation is a "rant" that "comes out of nowhere" because they couldn't imagine their inability to follow simple instructions might cause someone to notice.
In short, you'd get the exact same snide comment from me if you walked past the 'quiet please, reading room' sign, and then started yelling in the library. If you want to complain about lack of information, find any of the other Delta Recruitment event threads.
You should tell that to Taco ... he was "complaining" about the "lack of information" (but I guess, I can't even respond to Taco, because he responded to this ""complaint"", just like I did) ... seriously every Thread that only allows "one opinion" is kind of stupid ... sorry real opinions are little bit more diverse in the real world ... everything has it's ups and downs ...
Besides ... it's only from your limited POV ... Taco already acknowledged & understands the "lack of information" & the "concerns" some people might have because of it -> so this might actually lead to something positive, and maybe more Information ... most "constructive criticism" works that way ... it's kind of obvious that you can't see it this way, though ...
Don't forget Kirok from The Paradise Syndrome.
The OP already started out by dismissing all comments that don't fit into his positive box as whinining and attempting to restrict the feedback so that only his concept of what is acceptable is allowed so pardon me if I take offense to it. That's like hosting a political debate and claiming all are welcome to come but then mysteriously the third party candidate is refused a seat at the table because his or her views aren't quite mainstream enough. There's a term for that in politics and it's called double speak. You could also call it tyranny masked as tolerance.
And I've acknowledged the lack of information in the very first thread about this two weeks ago. I don't care that your complaint is valid. Hell, I don't even care that you ignored the rules of common decency and the simple requests of the original poster by posting a complaint. I also don't care that Taco shares our view that more information could have been provided because that doesn't make what you did okay. But if it were just there, I wouldn't have even posted a response to you. Rude people with opinions are a dime a dozen on the internet.
But you went a step further and, as I was responding to an entirely different person who was feeling unfairly maligned for doing exactly what you did, as I was failing to explain to him why complaints in a "no complaints" thread may be leading to some snide responses. Your response was to tell me that I was wrong, that my "rant" was "out of nowhere" and that if I had "read" this thread, I'd see that there were no complaints. And that the toxicity in this community was only in my heart. I proved that claim hilariously wrong within the first 5 posts of this thread. Past that, I don't particularly care for, or have an opinion, on your views regarding whatever else you're trying to talk about.
Since the "snide comments" weren't made by yourself (until later) ... how could you even think it was about you ... I was just telling you to actually read those "Snide Comments" in context, which you according to yourself didn't read, while blindly supporting hostility...
No it wasn't ... it was mostly about the other 2-5 guys earlier in this Thread I already responded to ... you're obviously right about the "reading" - part, though ...
PS : Please turn down on the "B&W", "Them & Us" ... sorry for having a different & more diverse opinion ...
PPS : There is still a huge difference between - "You Suck", "Complaints", "Constructice Criticism" etc ... doesn't help if you just keep throwing everything in one basket ...
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Why is it absolutely necessary to turn every single attempt to make a positive thread into a frigging train wreck?
Stop the arguments and incivility, all of you who are doing it. I don't care why you're doing it. I care that you're derailing this thread.
If you don't want to support Delta Recruiting, that's fine. There are other open threads where you can make your opinions known. If you don't support it and see nothing positive about it, you don't need to post here.
If you do support Delta Recruiting, that's fine. I suggest you stop replying to the people who insist on trying to turn this into another argument.
There is absolutely no reason to bicker with each other over it.
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I support this. We really need new blood in this game.
My only issue is that these new players will likely leave the game after hitting level 50 and seeing for themselves what a grind it is at that point, in terms of leveling, gear, and upgrading. It's a good move, but Cryptic has a long, LONG way to go towards restoring player confidence in the game's future.
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First this had me looking forward to giving KDF another try and now they go and announce they are changing Advanced queues.
This lack of fear and loathing is an unfamiliar feeling. It feels kinda nice.
Actually, I'd asked that the negatives be kept to other threads, and admitted straight up there were legitimate concerns. To quote myself:
I'd made this thread to collect some positive feedback because Taco expressed his disheartened feelings. I'd hoped that I could get a bunch of the positive feedback into one spot, for his easy reading. I wanted to reach out to a great guy and hopefully lift his spirits - not only with my voice, but the voice of others as well.
I was going to reply to other comments on here as well... but Bluegeek hit it out of the park. I can't really follow that up, so I'll quote it again (in the appropriate colour
I've been active in other Delta Recruitment threads, putting forward my views on the debate. This was not a thread I created to continue that debate, nor was it a thread designed to end, or even ignore, that debate.
Thanks to everyone who shared some good vibes. It was really nice to see that there were a lot of positive, happy, or otherwise nicely-worded comments in this thread
In a perfect world (believe it or not, no pun intended), this doesn't happen. I would think that a forum moderator, such as yourself, would be used to this by now. You can voice your opinion on how things are SUPPOSED to work, but trolls will be trolls.
That being said, I still stick by my opinion in order to keep this a bit more upbeat.
I'm looking forward to, getting a new free characters, replaying some old content with a new twist (which we now get DIL for as well Finally), having the lore fleshed out and getting account wide bonuses for the trouble.
Also MMOs need players to exist so any drive to bring in new players can only be a good thing.
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