Once you've got your ship prepared, boffs, doffs, and equipment, save your loadout !
Then if it ever gets cleared you simply need to click on the loadout you saved to restore everything as it was.
If you change consoles often.. save your loadout often.
I've been trying to reproduce this, but I'm just not seeing it. Nor did I see it while playing over the weekend on my personal account. So I've got some questions to try and track this down.
2-3 times a week is how often I see it.
Do you see this on every map transfer? If not, how often and on what type of transfer? e.g. beaming up from ground to space, loading into space queues, etc.
Logging into a character is when it happens most often for me.
Are there any particular maps that seem to cause this to happen more than others?
no random
Do you change ships and/or Boffs often? If so, how often after a change of Boffs do you see this happen?
Sometimes but not always the case. Have had it happen first time logging in.
Does this occur from the moment you log in, or do you have to be playing a while first? If the latter, approximately ow long before you see it happen?
Both.
Do you experience the same issue on Tribble? If so, is it more frequent or less?
No idea, don't have Tribble.
Side note, reloading a loadout doesn't always call back everything either. I've had loadouts fail to bring up proper Boff and bar setups.
And I suspect this has something to do with my missing Kobali Deflector and Engines. As they disappeared in the process of changing a loadout. I switched from a loudout with them in, to one without, then back to the one with them in and they were gone. Not in any banks, or on any other ship. Just completely gone.
Happened to me earlier transporting from Kobali Prime up to ship. All of my tray slots were empty.
Then again when doing CCA. It was an easy fix for me to just hit one of my saved loadouts but none the less still annoying when I had to take the time to fix it thus losing time in mission.
DAMMIT! JUST FIX IT ONCE & FOR ALL! :mad:
Have happened to me for quite some time now. Every 'Fix' seems to solve it for a while, but it re-appers with another patch.
It's completely random.
Some times I can run the game for several hours without any issues, other times I can only jump from one instance, map, sector or whatnot to the next, without having to rearrange everything.
Most times I can load my setup, other times nothing works.
Everything must be manually added and rearanged to my previous settings I want. It however 'only' affect the Boff's and other skills. Doff's never gets affected.
Some times I enter in a state of battle jumping into an instance. Makes it impossible to rearrange or pull any skill, Boff or like to a useable slot.
Just to clarify; I'm not actually in a battle, nor my team.
The latter are extremely gamebreaking and highly frustrating, both for me and my team, as I cannot do anything to contribute and are forced to leave with a penalty.
*It happens on all my characters*
*I'm not on Tribble, as the function of the game coming from there, makes it useless*
Last time my loadout got messed up, I was logging in to a character that logged out of Defera Invasion Zone.
I finished playing on Defera, and then logged off. I logged back in on that char a short time later for a few seconds (came out on ground) just to check reputation and doffs.
The next day I logged that character in I ended up in Defera System Space with a messed up tray and unable to reapply a loadout. I am sure I never touched anything ship related while being on Defera. That's the only clue I have.
Perhaps it is related to Boffs appearing on Defera when changing instances in Power Plant (to workaround another bug).
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It is happening to me with one character only, 100% of the time when beaming up from Kobali Prime to join a CC. Choosing the loadout prior to combat fixes the issue all the time.
EDIT: I am seeing a common pattern: going from ground to space, from Adventure zones such as Kobali Prime, Defera, New Romulus, Dyson Battlezone, etc. I will test later to see if it happens from social zones or other adventure space maps.
This Loadout System is broken since the FIRST Day they introduced it and they made it WORSE with every atempt to Fix it.......than they changed the Boff Powers System so we can Swap their Powers on the Fly HORRAY!...wait....now not only the Doffs / Gear / Traits / Power Tray and Boffs get Cleared...but also the Boffs Powers are Changing to something else when that Bug hits..... BIG TIME FAIL....*******BIG TIME******* with 40 Characters on my Main Account, this Bug is a MAJOR PAIN in the...well you know where....whenever i Switch to a another Char and see an Empty Boff Station (and / or Cleared Doffs, Traits Power tray and so on) iam Facepalming so HARD that my Face Hurts.....:mad::eek: Thinking of Beaming Down somewhere (Stations, Planets and so on) is a Nightmare since 99% when Beaming up to my Ship again, it will be CLEARED out of 1 or more things, and NO the FRIGGING Loadout System is also BROKEN, it will maybe load 2-3 Boffs, but nothing else, and if at all those Boffs are most of the Time the WRONG ones!
My Fiance has around the same amount of Chars, before this TRIBBLE Broken Loadout System, i Set up most if not all of her Chars, now with this TRIBBLE her Boffs are also Kicked out all the Time and the Boffs Powers are also changed also the Power Tray is Wiped, she just Smahes in Something Quickly to at least be able to do Something when this TRIBBLE happens in an STF / Crystalline, she gave up Trying to Figure out what exactly was where and that Frustrates me since i Spend so much Time Setting up everything for her.
Can you Imagine how much FUN it is to Set up every Single Character (again 40 on my Main Acc) AGAIN AND AGAIN?!...right its NOT!
So Cryptic / PWI if you are unable to Fix the BROKEN Loadout System INCLUDING the changing Boff Powers than:
A) Find someone who knows HOW to do it WITHOUT addind 500 New Bugs! Remove it Temporary and Build that System from SCRATCH but this time give it more time and make sure that IT WORKS!
C) Just SCRAP that Whole System and REMOVE IT, i and iam sure MOST of the Players where TOTALY Happy with the Old System...at least it was WORKING!
This TRIBBLE is also a Big reason for the Empty Queues, since People have ENOUGH of entering those Queues just to Find out that they are Basicaly NAKED Since their Ship is Stripped from EVERYTHING!
START DOING YOUR HOMEWORK OR STO WILL BE A GHOST TOWN SOONER THAN LATER! :mad:
But I'm constantly having issue where my BOFF seating gets hosed...In sector space.. everything is good.. enter mission.. CHECK BOFFS before I do anything. There doesn't seem to be a rhyme nor reason to it, but its pretty common. If I switch to a shuttle for any reason it's pretty much a given that I'll need to re-alocate my BOFF's when i come out... If I run any mission that takes me out of my ship and puts me in another ship I will have lost my BOFF seating when I come out of mission.
crypticfrost , i must say that in the last few weeks the issue of cleared boff stations after a map transistion or just loading in another character . while i can try to load a loadout i have to go over to the stations tab and select a boff then the tray magical loads .
any change to consoles or any other gear messes it up more .
There we go again. This time, right after switching to my Scientist captain on ESD, my standard Human Scientist Boff was reset to default abilities, and all Boff stations on my Samsar cleared. Applying a saved loadout did not reassign Boffs. Manually assigned Boffs' abilities were not applied correctly in some cases, especially on my standard Human Engineer. Or perhaps his abilities reset as well, I don't remember.
Turn it off!
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Its Funny that they give us TRIBBLE that no one asked for, and that TRIBBLE now Totaly Ruins the Game, and they are not able to Fix that,
again, find a way to FIX IT, or REMOVE IT once and for all, because of this BS System iam Scared to Beam down somewhere, because i know that when i Beam up 50% chance that EVERYTHING (Boff Skills Resetet, Boffs not in Station, Power Tray Empty , Traits Deselected and so on) is MESSED UP.
Why do you Force us to use NONSENSE that does NOT Work, that MESS up what was working before, and that you CANT Fix?????? If you Insist to keep that Trash, atleast add an Option to Activate OR Deactivate the Loadout System, just because you Guys think that its a good thing does not mean that we think that its a good thing! :mad::mad::mad:
What baffles me, is that companies can throw stuff on the market that has not been checked in whatever form: not by the company itself, not by any other instance.
They make new upgrades, throw it out to suckers like us, and seem to figure: "If something's wrong, THEY'LL tell us."
It should be: "Let's test this ourselves, decently, and see where we can eliminate bugs where found."
Quality nowadays is virtually non-existing!!!
And we, the consumer idiots, go along with this...
Shame on us.
Here's an example: I bought the DYSON Strategic science destroyer, only to figure out I cannot swap skills on the ship.
The ship reverts and locks the BOff's original skills, turning all learned skills useless.
But just THOSE skills I need, and I can't use them.
So, 30 Euro for something I cannot use until fixed (whenever that'll be), the GM's not being of help.
I asked to hardlock the needed skills in the file so I can use them, they do not want to, telling me: "As Customer Service Representatives, we do not have any influence over game decisions.
Excuse me, as a Game Master you ARE responsible for game decisions, and the decision not to help us in such a case kills the fun for us costumers.
How hard can it be to open a save game, shift out a skill in the ship loadout, and save it again?
Where I can understand you cannot magically give me a solution, you CAN alter the save game file.
THAT is within your power.
And since my BOff's have the skills, I can't see why you won't help me.
I was planning to go lifetime, but all these bugs make me wonder if that is actually a good idea.
Seems more and more, it is not, at all, a good idea....
I was planning to go lifetime, but all these bugs make me wonder if that is actually a good idea.
Seems more and more, it is not, at all, a good idea....
I have become so disghusted with the game I have reduced my 40 hrs a week down to 10 minutes and most of that is spent on the forums. I think of the thousands I have spent on this game it seemed worth it at the time. Now they have way too many bugs like getting DCed after a map change or my boffs going awol. This is more than a minor problem added in with that is the LAG, Rubberbanding, and UI Latency of anywhere between 2-6 seconds. Furthermore we politely tell them what is going on and they either tell us nothing or insinuate that it is some how our fault they broke the game. Frankly I thought the game was bad when Cryptic wasn't under the PWE banner. It has become space money grab not Star Trek.
The icing on the cake is the SILENCE we as a community get when we ask for answers. The forums should be a place where the company actually interacts with the customers. After all without the customers money the game folds and nobody has a job. Even a Ferengi understands that. I would be far more understanding if the company said "We are having problems with the amount of traffic on our servers and are attempting to fix this by doing XYZ" rather than the typical silence. There are a ton of smart engineer types who have offered to help you solve the problems for free why not use thier expertise?
I have this same issue as well sometimes even with the loadout saved it will not reset your loadout that you saved and you have to redo it all over again
As far as I can tell loadouts have never really benn fixed. I have to redo them on all 5 toons at least 1 time everyother day or so. The ghosts of blurred npcs and players has gotten worse. After
the update yesterday I could not even fly from 1 mine to the other in less then 5 minute because of the rubberband effect.
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Actually this doesn't always work.
I've had saved loadouts fail repeatedly.
Logging into a character is when it happens most often for me.
no random
Sometimes but not always the case. Have had it happen first time logging in.
Both.
No idea, don't have Tribble.
Side note, reloading a loadout doesn't always call back everything either. I've had loadouts fail to bring up proper Boff and bar setups.
And I suspect this has something to do with my missing Kobali Deflector and Engines. As they disappeared in the process of changing a loadout. I switched from a loudout with them in, to one without, then back to the one with them in and they were gone. Not in any banks, or on any other ship. Just completely gone.
Then again when doing CCA. It was an easy fix for me to just hit one of my saved loadouts but none the less still annoying when I had to take the time to fix it thus losing time in mission.
DAMMIT! JUST FIX IT ONCE & FOR ALL! :mad:
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It's completely random.
Some times I can run the game for several hours without any issues, other times I can only jump from one instance, map, sector or whatnot to the next, without having to rearrange everything.
Most times I can load my setup, other times nothing works.
Everything must be manually added and rearanged to my previous settings I want. It however 'only' affect the Boff's and other skills. Doff's never gets affected.
Some times I enter in a state of battle jumping into an instance. Makes it impossible to rearrange or pull any skill, Boff or like to a useable slot.
Just to clarify; I'm not actually in a battle, nor my team.
The latter are extremely gamebreaking and highly frustrating, both for me and my team, as I cannot do anything to contribute and are forced to leave with a penalty.
*It happens on all my characters*
*I'm not on Tribble, as the function of the game coming from there, makes it useless*
I finished playing on Defera, and then logged off. I logged back in on that char a short time later for a few seconds (came out on ground) just to check reputation and doffs.
The next day I logged that character in I ended up in Defera System Space with a messed up tray and unable to reapply a loadout. I am sure I never touched anything ship related while being on Defera. That's the only clue I have.
Perhaps it is related to Boffs appearing on Defera when changing instances in Power Plant (to workaround another bug).
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EDIT: I am seeing a common pattern: going from ground to space, from Adventure zones such as Kobali Prime, Defera, New Romulus, Dyson Battlezone, etc. I will test later to see if it happens from social zones or other adventure space maps.
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My Fiance has around the same amount of Chars, before this TRIBBLE Broken Loadout System, i Set up most if not all of her Chars, now with this TRIBBLE her Boffs are also Kicked out all the Time and the Boffs Powers are also changed also the Power Tray is Wiped, she just Smahes in Something Quickly to at least be able to do Something when this TRIBBLE happens in an STF / Crystalline, she gave up Trying to Figure out what exactly was where and that Frustrates me since i Spend so much Time Setting up everything for her.
Can you Imagine how much FUN it is to Set up every Single Character (again 40 on my Main Acc) AGAIN AND AGAIN?!...right its NOT!
So Cryptic / PWI if you are unable to Fix the BROKEN Loadout System INCLUDING the changing Boff Powers than:
A) Find someone who knows HOW to do it WITHOUT addind 500 New Bugs!
C) Just SCRAP that Whole System and REMOVE IT, i and iam sure MOST of the Players where TOTALY Happy with the Old System...at least it was WORKING!
This TRIBBLE is also a Big reason for the Empty Queues, since People have ENOUGH of entering those Queues just to Find out that they are Basicaly NAKED Since their Ship is Stripped from EVERYTHING!
START DOING YOUR HOMEWORK OR STO WILL BE A GHOST TOWN SOONER THAN LATER! :mad:
Loadouts.. no issues for me there...
But I'm constantly having issue where my BOFF seating gets hosed...In sector space.. everything is good.. enter mission.. CHECK BOFFS before I do anything. There doesn't seem to be a rhyme nor reason to it, but its pretty common. If I switch to a shuttle for any reason it's pretty much a given that I'll need to re-alocate my BOFF's when i come out... If I run any mission that takes me out of my ship and puts me in another ship I will have lost my BOFF seating when I come out of mission.
any change to consoles or any other gear messes it up more .
Turn it off!
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again, find a way to FIX IT, or REMOVE IT once and for all, because of this BS System iam Scared to Beam down somewhere, because i know that when i Beam up 50% chance that EVERYTHING (Boff Skills Resetet, Boffs not in Station, Power Tray Empty , Traits Deselected and so on) is MESSED UP.
Why do you Force us to use NONSENSE that does NOT Work, that MESS up what was working before, and that you CANT Fix?????? If you Insist to keep that Trash, atleast add an Option to Activate OR Deactivate the Loadout System, just because you Guys think that its a good thing does not mean that we think that its a good thing! :mad::mad::mad:
They make new upgrades, throw it out to suckers like us, and seem to figure: "If something's wrong, THEY'LL tell us."
It should be: "Let's test this ourselves, decently, and see where we can eliminate bugs where found."
Quality nowadays is virtually non-existing!!!
And we, the consumer idiots, go along with this...
Shame on us.
Here's an example: I bought the DYSON Strategic science destroyer, only to figure out I cannot swap skills on the ship.
The ship reverts and locks the BOff's original skills, turning all learned skills useless.
But just THOSE skills I need, and I can't use them.
So, 30 Euro for something I cannot use until fixed (whenever that'll be), the GM's not being of help.
I asked to hardlock the needed skills in the file so I can use them, they do not want to, telling me: "As Customer Service Representatives, we do not have any influence over game decisions.
Excuse me, as a Game Master you ARE responsible for game decisions, and the decision not to help us in such a case kills the fun for us costumers.
How hard can it be to open a save game, shift out a skill in the ship loadout, and save it again?
Where I can understand you cannot magically give me a solution, you CAN alter the save game file.
THAT is within your power.
And since my BOff's have the skills, I can't see why you won't help me.
I was planning to go lifetime, but all these bugs make me wonder if that is actually a good idea.
Seems more and more, it is not, at all, a good idea....
You're not alone.
The icing on the cake is the SILENCE we as a community get when we ask for answers. The forums should be a place where the company actually interacts with the customers. After all without the customers money the game folds and nobody has a job. Even a Ferengi understands that. I would be far more understanding if the company said "We are having problems with the amount of traffic on our servers and are attempting to fix this by doing XYZ" rather than the typical silence. There are a ton of smart engineer types who have offered to help you solve the problems for free why not use thier expertise?
the update yesterday I could not even fly from 1 mine to the other in less then 5 minute because of the rubberband effect.
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Switching maps causes my bridge officers to be removed.
How did this bug come back????
I guess an annoying 1-2 weeks before this is maybe fixed in the next patch.
Back? It never went away
Precisely. If anything, it just became more frequent. It's incredibly frustrating