I'd like to be able to make more accurate characters. The character creator should include Jem'Hadar options, real ones, as well as others, like Vaadwaur. If I need to make a new character for this Delta Recruit thing, I want more and better options for races and character design.
Great... and now I can't unbox my Winter or Anniversary event ships for another month. Why? Simple.
If my current toon becomes obsolete, I want to use those ships on my main character (whatever toon that will be). And if I need to level a new main to get the Delta content and bonuses, I won't be able to use those ships once they are bound to my obsolete main.
They were already bound to your obsolete main when your got them.
Jeepers, the paranoia in this thread is hitting new levels...
Read what's being written guys:
Delta Recruits are specifically designed to rapidly close the gap that exists between new characters and characters that have been in Star Trek Online for years
This is good. People have complained about power gaps between new / old alts for ages, and a lot of good gear (shotgun, emergency conn hologram, antiproton torp, Worf sash) is permanently unattainable. So for once it's the FNGs who get some attention.
They have a list of goals that they can achieve at any time, and completing these goals will see them rewarded with equipment, Marks, and other rewards beneficial not just to the Delta Recruit, but to all characters on the same account.
So; unlock the good stuff on your Delta alt, and it's available to all alts.
Completing the story arcs of your chosen faction will reward you with a unique Starship Trait for all characters on your account: Temporal Insight. This trait will proc a Damage Immunity when you use any Hull Heal on your starship.
Now, a lot of how "pushy" this event is will depend on how powerful this trait is. If it's outcompeted by existing ship / specialisation traits, then no need to grind at all.
And now for the REALLY good news:
by accomplishing these goals, they unlock bonuses for the entire server for the whole of the next week of the event! For example, in the first week of the event, every Episode First Run that Delta Recruits complete will count towards the goal. How many First Runs they complete will determine the bonus of the week-long event running in Week 2. You will have either a 1.5x XP bonus, a 2x XP bonus, or possibly even a 2.5x XP bonus for the entire week!
I am cautiously optimistic that this event will either be genuinely decent, or at least not a "compulsory grind to stay current". It might even get me to roll that Quch'ha character I've been contemplating for years...
Note "for the entire server". I read that as the XP bonus will apply even to veteran alts, very handy in levelling those specialisations.
So; a grind, but at least using the narrative missions once for a set of account-wide bonuses. Better IMO than replaying the same mission 20 times. And potentially some VERY good bonuses for players / alts that don't even take part!
This is good. People have complained about power gaps between new / old alts for ages, and a lot of good gear (shotgun, emergency conn hologram, antiproton torp, Worf sash) is permanently unattainable. So for once it's the FNGs who get some attention.
Maybe these things shouldn't be permanently unattainable, then.
Certainly the solution isn't to create more permanently unattainable things that you can't even get on the same toon as the previous ones.
This is good. People have complained about power gaps between new / old alts for ages, and a lot of good gear (shotgun, emergency conn hologram, antiproton torp, Worf sash) is permanently unattainable. So for once it's the FNGs who get some attention.
the gap has started with the introduction of reputations, starbase (and holdings), specializations and removing the hourly events. Long time ago, skilling a new toon required about some days even if you can't play many hours every day. Reputations started to slow this... a new player needs about 40 days to finish a reputation, if we had just 1-2 reputations it's not a hard task, but we have now many reputations and each one requires a different mark... and after that you have still to grind for reputation's items. Then, if you need fleet items and bonuses, you have to grind and acquire fleet credit... (again time you need to fill the gap), have you done that? then you still need to complete specializations and we know how much hard it is. And do not forget the resources you need to upgrade your items...
Do you really want to remove the gap? reduce the time to complete reputation projects, 5 hours instead of 20, reduse fleet projects requirements and increase fleet credit reward for completing them... also increase exp reward to complete specializations and/or bring back hourly events (mirror universe first of all)... reduce resources requirered to upgrade your items: do you remember because cryptic introduced the omega reputations? because if you wanted end
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Do you really want to remove the gap? reduce the time to complete reputation projects, 5 hours instead of 20, reduse fleet projects requirements and increase fleet credit reward for completing them... also increase exp reward to complete specializations and/or bring back hourly events (mirror universe first of all)... reduce resources requirered to upgrade your items: do you remember because cryptic introduced the omega reputations? because if you wanted end
Been thinking about the Delta recruitment event starting next month, and I think the purpose of the whole running a parallel storyline to the main storyline for a given faction, is to give them an opportunity to ret con The evolution of the Klingon federation war, leading up to current events.
I think it's going to be a kind of quantum leap altering of the timeline to make the overall evolution of the plot and story line more fluid, and have it and where they wanted to be for the next season.
I suspect will be playing similar missions but two different outcomes, which should be interesting. I'll be making a Ferasan ENG, as I enjoy playing for the storyline as an engineer the most, and I prefer the Klingon storyline, and I have yet to play a Ferasan Engineer.
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So; unlock the good stuff on your Delta alt, and it's available to all alts.
it doesnt actually say that. all it says is that some of the rewards will be 'beneficial' to your other toons. the way in which these nebulous things are 'beneficial' just might be the devil in the details.
AS a player that enjoys episodes and leveling toons I love it. It has always been enjoyable to go through leveling for me, moreso then endgame. I recently have gotten deeper into end game and fleet grind thanx to this expansion and the new cross faction carrier. I had a romulan and leveled it for the experience only to find that none of my shiney cstore ships were for it. Haveing ships faction wide was always a big seller for me on cstore, but haveing romulan char only eligible for romulan ships makes buying for it a nonstarter. Not a fan of 1 char single unlocks in general since I love deleting and redoing toons. Ty pw for this upcoming event adding a 13th slot to my 12 is a nice perk lol.
It's impressive how many people DON'T read the news article before posting:
Waaahh, it needs an XP Boost - Yes. There will be one in week two.
Waaahh, it needs a free character slot - Yes, there will be one given to everyone.
Waaahh, grinding out marks is too hard - Marks are awarded for completing otional goals in existng missions.
The exp boost the new players earn goes to server wide week 2. Meaning if I grind a nubin and you don't you still win an xp boost week 2 based on how many like me do grind. Read all the blog it has many benifits like this that help nubins, and vets. Takeing a nubin into your group for a run through an stf earns you dill. So you have no need to ***** the nubin gimped our stf.
as I see it from reading the blog several times over this is a good thing for new and existing characters alike.
as far as I can see any permanent perks from this event will be account wide unlocks, any perks from this event that are restricted to delta recruits will end when the event does.
after the event is over your delta recruit will have no special abilities that are not shared by your existing characters so this is not making your existing characters obsolete in any way.
you get a free character slot to create the delta recruit in so there is no need to buy slots or delete an existing character.
you will have no requirement to play a delta recruit after the event ends until such time as they run any delta recruit specific events if ever they do.
any goodies that are gained can be transferred to your main characters after the event ends including dil, ec & non account bound equipment drops.
if you can delete a delta recruit after the event is risky, you may loose any perks you have gained on your current characters if you do so but then they are giving us a free slot for the character so what will it hurt to leave him in stasis or use him for farming doff missions if you want to.
there are no requirements as far as I can see to complete any long term grinds with a delta recruit and this includes crafting, reputation and specializations.
as far as I can see it this is a win win event for all who take part.
the only players who are likely to loose out will be those who don't take part and any new players who sign up after the event is over but at the end of the day as the majority of perks seem to be restricted to traits and as players most often seem to forget you can only slot a set number of traits at any one time the loss will not be that great in any case.
until I find otherwise I will give my current characters a holiday and concentrate all play on the delta recruit for the duration of the event.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I began playing this game February 2012. I moved here from Final Fantasy XI Online due to the devs constantly making new stuff to keep the game going, not interesting. Soon as you got a rare item that was decent, (if you're even lucky to) BAM! there they come out with something new to counter it. It got to the point why even try so I quit.
I hate companies or ANYONE dangling carrots before me watching to see if I will try to take a bite. The servers are horrid, glitches run rampant but to some you dare not say anything bad about it (Only reason I can see this is they are affiliated with the game somehow so they don't want to look bad) Any other reason is Highly Illogical.
People like myself are fighters for WHAT IS RIGHT!! We believe you work hard for your income, dammit you bend over backwards for a jerk to be a jerk and you have to scramble to help them and if you don't!! Well, YOU SHOULD get the idea. If you don't SEEK HELP. I digress, you SHOULD get what you pay for. You're SUPPOSED TO!! Now, I liked the idea of making different toons for various reasons. Until Delta came out. Now I am scrambling to have a decent toon.
As I am getting better on one, I finally have decided was 'good', NOW~ they want us to make yet another. Getting a free space isn't the issue, it's the Money ALREADY Spent (and the money I have YET to spend) on my already existing toon. You can't change jobs like you can on FFXI to save your very near and dear toon that is BS already, why can't we change jobs to be that epic character like Kirk was?!
You guys don't think Captains are capable of knowing every system?! Then do NOT pick a fight with the United States Navy!! Real Captains ARE REQUIRED to know EVERYTHING about their ships!! Or you're just for decoration and we don't win wars that way. I wonder about those who brain storm for STO.. They seem like they are so high in their thinking they forget the simplest things can be better for a game not the next big WOW shock factor they are after.
Levels 1-50 was fun to do, then Delta came out and I was sitting here scratching my head as to why everything went to s**t from too long of story lines (Hey! Emergencies and LIFE Happens! And here WE get punished if we have a distraction or the server glitches out!) Not to mention not seeing diverse ships where they could make ALL ships up gradable, they keep coming out with 'new' ones which is fine too!, But seeing masses of the same kind, makes one wonder why did I waste $$$ on the others from before?? I play a made up Terran toon to 'Mirror' my main toon. (To try out a new job) I found out through this I adore the Engineering side of things. Now my True main toon is on the back burner, because I can't switch jobs and here I have all Fleet equipment on her but since she is Science and I really enjoy Engineering, She suffers!
My 'mirror' toon can only use Fed ships, unable to use the mirror paint and ISS label which I feel all ships should have this ability (purchasable by the C store like the NX idea they already have). Now am scrambling to do the same for this Mirrored one I made in December of 2014. Now they want me to make yet another... I think I'm either done with MMO's because the devs seem to lack true ingenuity and imagination or they are Ferengi at heart over thinking things. It is written you will know them (who they truly are) by what they produce. I'm seeing a major TRIBBLE deal here and Thankfully I'm not alone!
Guys at Cryptic, I want to say I honor your work I honestly do, or I wouldn't pay a monthly 'tip' for your work. If you thought things out, took peoples ideas and try them out, you might get a better response and happier customers! I can see you guys trying, but it's genuinely not that great right now. We are Trekkies! We love the story lines and Characters!! That been said know this: "Imagination is MORE IMPORTANT than knowledge, Knowledge is limited, but imagination encircles the globe." -A. Einstein. If the whole game needs to be redone, then I hate to tell you this but DO IT. You'd be surprised who is out there LOOKING for a damn good Quality game and who would be willing to throw $$$ at a damn good QUALITY game!!
as I see it from reading the blog several times over this is a good thing for new and existing characters alike.
as far as I can see any permanent perks from this event will be account wide unlocks, any perks from this event that are restricted to delta recruits will end when the event does.
after the event is over your delta recruit will have no special perks that are not shared by your existing characters so this is not making your existing characters obsolete in any way.
The blog does not specify what, if any, permanent effects the Delta Recruit status confers, or which of them are account-wide. The XP and dilithium bonuses will go away, the account-wide starship trait will stay, anything else is unknown.
The Delta Symbol itself counts as a perk.
you get a free character slot to create the delta recruit in so there is no need to buy slots or delete an existing character.
you will have no requirement to play a delta recruit after the event ends until such time as they run any delta recruit specific events if ever they do.
any goodies that are gained can be transferred to your main characters after the event ends including dil, ec & non account bound equipment drops.
Some account-wide rewards were promised. This does not mean all of them will be account-wide or transferable. If there are any accolades involved, I don't know if it's even possible for them to be account-wide unless they change the accolade system.
And as mentioned, the Delta Symbol itself counts as a goodie.
if you can delete a delta recruit after the event is risky, you may loose any perks you have gained on your current characters if you do so but then they are giving us a free slot for the character so what will it hurt to leave him in stasis or use him for farming doff missions if you want to.
as far as I can see it this is a win win event for all who take part.
From a collector's point of view this looks like a lose-lose event for everyone regardless of if you take part or not. Unless all the Delta Recruit stuff goes away or becomes account-wide such that after the event there is absolutely nothing left to distinguish a Delta Recruit from a non-Delta Recruit, all toons old and new are going to be missing something. Either this, or everything that came before it.
until I find otherwise I will give my current characters a holiday and concentrate all play on the delta recruit for the duration of the event.
That does seem to be the point of the event. Question is, should that be a permanent holiday?
The blog does not specify what, if any, permanent effects the Delta Recruit status confers, or which of them are account-wide. The XP and dilithium bonuses will go away, the account-wide starship trait will stay, anything else is unknown.
The Delta Symbol itself counts as a perk.
neither does its say there are any that will only be for the delta recruit.
Some account-wide rewards were promised. This does not mean all of them will be account-wide or transferable. If there are any accolades involved, I don't know if it's even possible for them to be account-wide unless they change the accolade system.
And as mentioned, the Delta Symbol itself counts as a goodie.
what makes you think there will be any delta recruit only accolades there may be no accolades available over and above the current ones available.
the delta symbol means nothing as far as I can see and offers no extras after the event is over and is only there for the player to see which of his characters are delta recruits if they run any other delta events in the future that might benefit you account wide also.
From a collector's point of view this looks like a lose-lose event for everyone regardless of if you take part or not. Unless all the Delta Recruit stuff goes away or becomes account-wide such that after the event there is absolutely nothing left to distinguish a Delta Recruit from a non-Delta Recruit, all toons old and new are going to be missing something. Either this, or everything that came before it.
at the moment that's just an opinion, my opinion differs from yours, it remains to be see which is closest to the truth.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
the delta symbol means nothing as far as I can see and offers no extras after the event is over and is only there for the player to see which of his characters are delta recruits if they run any other delta events in the future that might benefit you account wide also.
It means something simply by existing. Unless its going to disappear after the event, I want one on my main character.
And yes, there is always the chance that there will be related events in the future. Which is all the more reason to have the Symbol.
It means something simply by existing. Unless its going to disappear after the event, I want one on my main character.
And yes, there is always the chance that there will be related events in the future. Which is all the more reason to have the Symbol.
there again there may be many delta recruit only accolades and as you say the delta symbol but think of it like this, there are some accolades that can only be gained by feds and there a some that can only be gained by kdf and yet again there are some that can only be gained by romulans.
speaking from a collectors point of view I will say this if you have not got a character from each faction as I do that you play as a main like I do then whats your problem just look at this as like an extra faction the delta symbol being the mark of this faction, whos accolades you will never get.
if you have got a character from each faction then again look at this like an extra faction better to roll a character from this new faction to collect all that is limited to him & have a complete as possible collection then not have one and have your collection incomplete.
assuming you might have a character from each faction even if you could get the delta symbol for them all and make them delta recruits there is no way you could get all of the unknown extras for all 3 in the time allotted.
and I would say yes there may be related events in the future in fact I would say its a certainty, then all the more reason to have a delta recruit available to you even if it means rolling a new one and playing him as a character from a different faction even if he is a half faction like a romulan who plays many of the missions from his aligned faction.
and what better character to roll to maintain this notion then a romulan or reman, if you have a rom roll a reman and vice versa.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
there again there may be many delta recruit only accolades and as you say the delta symbol but think of it like this, there are some accolades that can only be gained by feds and there a some that can only be gained by kdf and yet again there are some that can only be gained by romulans.
speaking from a collectors point of view I will say this if you have not got a character from each faction as I do that you play as a main like I do then whats your problem just look at this as like an extra faction the delta symbol being the mark of this faction, whos accolades you will never get.
if you have got a character from each faction then again look at this like an extra faction better to roll a character from this new faction to collect all that is limited to him & have a complete as possible collection then not have one and have your collection incomplete.
Yes, and this is on reason why accolades should be account-wide even without this whole new character issue. I do have characters in all factions, although I don't collect all accolades on every one, because some of them are just too boringly grindy to do more than once.
Obviously I'm going to have a Delta Recruit. I'd use the free character slot even if there was nothing special about it, just so it doesn't go to waste. The question never was whether I'm going to make a new character. I'd just like to have my collectibles on the character I play most. To have one complete character instead of a bunch of almost-completes.
assuming you might have a character from each faction even if you could get the delta symbol for them all and make them delta recruits there is no way you could get all of the unknown extras for all 3 in the time allotted.
Maybe, maybe not. Depends on what we have to do to get them. So far the only tasks mentioned are "leveling up, playing through story content up through the Breen story arc, and finding special Delta Recruit objectives on certain mission maps." That doesn't sound like it would take over 7 weeks to do. Especially with XP bonuses.
EDIT: And yet another open question...Is there going to be different content for each faction? Should we really have 3 Delta Recruits to experience the event to the fullest? They're only giving us one free slot, are we expected to buy two more?
and I would say yes there may be related events in the future in fact I would say its a certainty, then all the more reason to have a delta recruit available to you even if it means rolling a new one and playing him as a character from a different faction even if he is a half faction like a romulan who plays many of the missions from his aligned faction.
and what better character to roll to maintain this notion then a romulan or reman, if you have a rom roll a reman and vice versa.
I wouldn't call it a certainty just yet. Assuming the Delta Recruit status remains restricted to new characters, they'd pretty much have to give everyone a free character slot every time, so that players who didn't participate before can roll a Delta Recruit.
And if they're willing to disqualify existing characters from this event, that means they'll be willing to disqualify existing characters from future events, too. The next one may well be Gamma Recruit or something entirely different, and its all new characters for everyone yet again.
personally I think the entire new delta system here as presented is Pandora's Box
Or maybe
That little box from the movie
Hellraiser !
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Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
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The talk about the mysterious benefactor, as well as the fact our old toons can't get retconed into Delta Recruits gave me a thought. Maybe the "in universe" rational for why our old ones can't retroactively get Delta Recruit status is that they are the mysterious benefactor.
Now naturally unless the game randomly grabs a same faction level 50+ alt from your account to stick into cutscenes they can't show your old captain, but if the Benefactor is kept hidden in the shadows or something, that paired with perhaps a mission with your high level captain being sent back in time briefly could at least cause the implications of your old toon being the benefactor to the new guy.
of course this is just a random idea that popped into my head with absolutely no basis in game.
They are retconning the storyline to streamline things, our Delta Recruit is altering the timeline to create the universe that our other characters exist in.
At least that is what I am expecting, take the Temporal Cold War, sprinkle in some Back to the Future, Quantum Leap, ect...
Our Delta Recruit will be the character making these changes.
That is my theory. Would explain these account unlocks as results of changes to the timeline.
Can't wait to make my new Ferasan.
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Why are they called "delta" recruits if the adjusted content designed for them only goes up to the breen arc?
seems to me there is no reason to call them "delta" unless there are going to be significant delta-recruits-only content in the delta quadrant to be released at some future date
Why are they called "delta" recruits if the adjusted content designed for them only goes up to the breen arc?
seems to me there is no reason to call them "delta" unless there are going to be significant delta-recruits-only content in the delta quadrant to be released at some future date
haha if they do something like that i think the "veteran" players like myself and others who have spent years in this game and plenty of $$ in this game will be (to put it very nicely and understated) upset. which means they will loose a whole lot of players and gain a whole lot of negative pr. Probably enough to kill the game all together. PWE is money hungry not stupid
The talk about the mysterious benefactor, as well as the fact our old toons can't get retconed into Delta Recruits gave me a thought. Maybe the "in universe" rational for why our old ones can't retroactively get Delta Recruit status is that they are the mysterious benefactor.
Now naturally unless the game randomly grabs a same faction level 50+ alt from your account to stick into cutscenes they can't show your old captain, but if the Benefactor is kept hidden in the shadows or something, that paired with perhaps a mission with your high level captain being sent back in time briefly could at least cause the implications of your old toon being the benefactor to the new guy.
of course this is just a random idea that popped into my head with absolutely no basis in game.
I cant see this how would this apply to new players who have no current captains to go back in time and show them the way.
They are retconning the storyline to streamline things, our Delta Recruit is altering the timeline to create the universe that our other characters exist in.
At least that is what I am expecting, take the Temporal Cold War, sprinkle in some Back to the Future, Quantum Leap, ect...
Our Delta Recruit will be the character making these changes.
That is my theory. Would explain these account unlocks as results of changes to the timeline.
Can't wait to make my new Ferasan.
this is more likely to be the case and it would make more sense for new players if the mysterious benefactor is a future of the delta characters themselves.
or it could just be a new character made especially to play this role, only time will tell, unless of course a future you has already contacted the present you and told you how things are going to go.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I'm just gonna cut straight to the point for everyone and for any Dev or PWE/Cryptic team member that sees this. Real simple: we have seen in the 3 year history of STO, that your track record is more about generating revenue than keeping the community happy. You tweak things here and there but if it ever comes down to conflict between the communities enjoyment or the bottom line for PWE, you choose the bottom line every single time. Now let's face facts, you're a business and are in business to make money...we all get that. But if you push the community too far, there won't be a community left to make money from. And let's face it, what you've been doing with these Tier 6 ships is really taxing the communities patience. And based on your history, it is by no means even a small stretch of the imagination of the community to fear that along with T-6 ships, you have now announced what is no less than a T-6 character which makes 5 years of captains, leveling, ships, and everything we have grinded and made our fingers bled for, lost sleep for, emptied accounts and charged up credit cards for, completely obsolete.
If you think the community at large is going to go for this, you're gonna have a bit so friendly reminder of why City of Heroes/City of Villains fell apart. There are games like Star Wars: The Old Republic, Star Citizen (launches later this year with superior API) Star Trek: Timelines (launches later this year) and Sims of a Solar Empire (with Star Trek mods) that we will gladly move on to and let you realize that you may know how to make a game with a lot of toom customization, but when it comes to making a good game and keeping your community happy, you don't go pull TRIBBLE like this, you have A LOT to learn.
So I would suggest someone get on here and straighten out exactly what your intentions are with this new character..because if you're making our T5 toons obsolete like our T5 ships, you're gonna find the servers empty out faster than what happened on CoH/CoV.
To all of you that are looking forward to this i say to you......You must not of spent allot money or time on your main but to be force to construct a new toon just for unique bonous's and account bonous's is lame in the buttom line they are forceing us to level one toon to rule all and going to cost players tons of money so cheer on you guppie's i see delta riseing as A end to sto like locking traits to ships and now locking bonous's to toon's it's comeing, all it's going to be is who has spent the most or who is useing the most amount of broken abil's The end is here there is no game in its current state TRIBBLE look at your shields atm in a space combat game wtf. Cant you guys tell they are exploiting everythiung we love and turning it into a slot machine.......
As an old player returned to the game what really poisons this game for me the most is the community. Shouldn't you be glad that the Devs are trying to bring in new players or bring back old ones? Why does every thing Cryptic does have to be for your benefit or it is a terrible idea?
Because it's not for our benefit, little sheep, it's for theirs.
If they wanted to do something for my benefit, they'd let my five-year-old character take part in this.
All this says is, "Hey, you guys that've been around since the beginning? Yeah. Ef you."
If they were doing anything for our benefit at all, it'd be different. Existing characters could do it. They wouldn't have made STFs that are Elite only. They wouldn't have released DR at ALL. They would have made the game more alt-friendly. They would be fixing bugs and not copping out with the excuse that not enough people are experiencing them to fix them.
Turning STO into an Asian-style grind with boredom and time wasting, then turning around and giving the finger to all of us who have been playing since the beginning?
That's not for MY benefit. It doesn't benefit anyone who's been playing this game for years.
Because it's not for our benefit, little sheep, it's for theirs.
If they wanted to do something for my benefit, they'd let my five-year-old character take part in this.
All this says is, "Hey, you guys that've been around since the beginning? Yeah. Ef you."
If they were doing anything for our benefit at all, it'd be different. Existing characters could do it. They wouldn't have made STFs that are Elite only. They wouldn't have released DR at ALL. They would have made the game more alt-friendly. They would be fixing bugs and not copping out with the excuse that not enough people are experiencing them to fix them.
Turning STO into an Asian-style grind with boredom and time wasting, then turning around and giving the finger to all of us who have been playing since the beginning?
That's not for MY benefit. It doesn't benefit anyone who's been playing this game for years.
Have you even read the blog? It will benefit new AND old because of the things that will be shared between characters (whatever they are). The only thing we know for sure won't be shared is the story, but I assume no one hating this event even cares about it. The point is, everyone is getting worked up for no apparent reason.
And can we just let go of the hate on Delta Rising? It has a few faults, but you all blow it completely out of proportion.
But what do I know? I'm just a "little sheep", just having fun while waiting for an interesting event to happen.:rolleyes:
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This is good. People have complained about power gaps between new / old alts for ages, and a lot of good gear (shotgun, emergency conn hologram, antiproton torp, Worf sash) is permanently unattainable. So for once it's the FNGs who get some attention.
So; unlock the good stuff on your Delta alt, and it's available to all alts.
Now, a lot of how "pushy" this event is will depend on how powerful this trait is. If it's outcompeted by existing ship / specialisation traits, then no need to grind at all.
And now for the REALLY good news:
I am cautiously optimistic that this event will either be genuinely decent, or at least not a "compulsory grind to stay current". It might even get me to roll that Quch'ha character I've been contemplating for years...
Note "for the entire server". I read that as the XP bonus will apply even to veteran alts, very handy in levelling those specialisations.
So; a grind, but at least using the narrative missions once for a set of account-wide bonuses. Better IMO than replaying the same mission 20 times. And potentially some VERY good bonuses for players / alts that don't even take part!
Certainly the solution isn't to create more permanently unattainable things that you can't even get on the same toon as the previous ones.
the gap has started with the introduction of reputations, starbase (and holdings), specializations and removing the hourly events. Long time ago, skilling a new toon required about some days even if you can't play many hours every day. Reputations started to slow this... a new player needs about 40 days to finish a reputation, if we had just 1-2 reputations it's not a hard task, but we have now many reputations and each one requires a different mark... and after that you have still to grind for reputation's items. Then, if you need fleet items and bonuses, you have to grind and acquire fleet credit... (again time you need to fill the gap), have you done that? then you still need to complete specializations and we know how much hard it is. And do not forget the resources you need to upgrade your items...
Do you really want to remove the gap? reduce the time to complete reputation projects, 5 hours instead of 20, reduse fleet projects requirements and increase fleet credit reward for completing them... also increase exp reward to complete specializations and/or bring back hourly events (mirror universe first of all)... reduce resources requirered to upgrade your items: do you remember because cryptic introduced the omega reputations? because if you wanted end
Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
I think it's going to be a kind of quantum leap altering of the timeline to make the overall evolution of the plot and story line more fluid, and have it and where they wanted to be for the next season.
I suspect will be playing similar missions but two different outcomes, which should be interesting. I'll be making a Ferasan ENG, as I enjoy playing for the storyline as an engineer the most, and I prefer the Klingon storyline, and I have yet to play a Ferasan Engineer.
it doesnt actually say that. all it says is that some of the rewards will be 'beneficial' to your other toons. the way in which these nebulous things are 'beneficial' just might be the devil in the details.
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The exp boost the new players earn goes to server wide week 2. Meaning if I grind a nubin and you don't you still win an xp boost week 2 based on how many like me do grind. Read all the blog it has many benifits like this that help nubins, and vets. Takeing a nubin into your group for a run through an stf earns you dill. So you have no need to ***** the nubin gimped our stf.
as far as I can see any permanent perks from this event will be account wide unlocks, any perks from this event that are restricted to delta recruits will end when the event does.
after the event is over your delta recruit will have no special abilities that are not shared by your existing characters so this is not making your existing characters obsolete in any way.
you get a free character slot to create the delta recruit in so there is no need to buy slots or delete an existing character.
you will have no requirement to play a delta recruit after the event ends until such time as they run any delta recruit specific events if ever they do.
any goodies that are gained can be transferred to your main characters after the event ends including dil, ec & non account bound equipment drops.
if you can delete a delta recruit after the event is risky, you may loose any perks you have gained on your current characters if you do so but then they are giving us a free slot for the character so what will it hurt to leave him in stasis or use him for farming doff missions if you want to.
there are no requirements as far as I can see to complete any long term grinds with a delta recruit and this includes crafting, reputation and specializations.
as far as I can see it this is a win win event for all who take part.
the only players who are likely to loose out will be those who don't take part and any new players who sign up after the event is over but at the end of the day as the majority of perks seem to be restricted to traits and as players most often seem to forget you can only slot a set number of traits at any one time the loss will not be that great in any case.
until I find otherwise I will give my current characters a holiday and concentrate all play on the delta recruit for the duration of the event.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I hate companies or ANYONE dangling carrots before me watching to see if I will try to take a bite. The servers are horrid, glitches run rampant but to some you dare not say anything bad about it (Only reason I can see this is they are affiliated with the game somehow so they don't want to look bad) Any other reason is Highly Illogical.
People like myself are fighters for WHAT IS RIGHT!! We believe you work hard for your income, dammit you bend over backwards for a jerk to be a jerk and you have to scramble to help them and if you don't!! Well, YOU SHOULD get the idea. If you don't SEEK HELP. I digress, you SHOULD get what you pay for. You're SUPPOSED TO!! Now, I liked the idea of making different toons for various reasons. Until Delta came out. Now I am scrambling to have a decent toon.
As I am getting better on one, I finally have decided was 'good', NOW~ they want us to make yet another. Getting a free space isn't the issue, it's the Money ALREADY Spent (and the money I have YET to spend) on my already existing toon. You can't change jobs like you can on FFXI to save your very near and dear toon that is BS already, why can't we change jobs to be that epic character like Kirk was?!
You guys don't think Captains are capable of knowing every system?! Then do NOT pick a fight with the United States Navy!! Real Captains ARE REQUIRED to know EVERYTHING about their ships!! Or you're just for decoration and we don't win wars that way. I wonder about those who brain storm for STO.. They seem like they are so high in their thinking they forget the simplest things can be better for a game not the next big WOW shock factor they are after.
Levels 1-50 was fun to do, then Delta came out and I was sitting here scratching my head as to why everything went to s**t from too long of story lines (Hey! Emergencies and LIFE Happens! And here WE get punished if we have a distraction or the server glitches out!) Not to mention not seeing diverse ships where they could make ALL ships up gradable, they keep coming out with 'new' ones which is fine too!, But seeing masses of the same kind, makes one wonder why did I waste $$$ on the others from before?? I play a made up Terran toon to 'Mirror' my main toon. (To try out a new job) I found out through this I adore the Engineering side of things. Now my True main toon is on the back burner, because I can't switch jobs and here I have all Fleet equipment on her but since she is Science and I really enjoy Engineering, She suffers!
My 'mirror' toon can only use Fed ships, unable to use the mirror paint and ISS label which I feel all ships should have this ability (purchasable by the C store like the NX idea they already have). Now am scrambling to do the same for this Mirrored one I made in December of 2014. Now they want me to make yet another... I think I'm either done with MMO's because the devs seem to lack true ingenuity and imagination or they are Ferengi at heart over thinking things. It is written you will know them (who they truly are) by what they produce. I'm seeing a major TRIBBLE deal here and Thankfully I'm not alone!
Guys at Cryptic, I want to say I honor your work I honestly do, or I wouldn't pay a monthly 'tip' for your work. If you thought things out, took peoples ideas and try them out, you might get a better response and happier customers! I can see you guys trying, but it's genuinely not that great right now. We are Trekkies! We love the story lines and Characters!! That been said know this: "Imagination is MORE IMPORTANT than knowledge, Knowledge is limited, but imagination encircles the globe." -A. Einstein. If the whole game needs to be redone, then I hate to tell you this but DO IT. You'd be surprised who is out there LOOKING for a damn good Quality game and who would be willing to throw $$$ at a damn good QUALITY game!!
The Delta Symbol itself counts as a perk. Some account-wide rewards were promised. This does not mean all of them will be account-wide or transferable. If there are any accolades involved, I don't know if it's even possible for them to be account-wide unless they change the accolade system.
And as mentioned, the Delta Symbol itself counts as a goodie. From a collector's point of view this looks like a lose-lose event for everyone regardless of if you take part or not. Unless all the Delta Recruit stuff goes away or becomes account-wide such that after the event there is absolutely nothing left to distinguish a Delta Recruit from a non-Delta Recruit, all toons old and new are going to be missing something. Either this, or everything that came before it.
That does seem to be the point of the event. Question is, should that be a permanent holiday?
neither does its say there are any that will only be for the delta recruit.
what makes you think there will be any delta recruit only accolades there may be no accolades available over and above the current ones available.
the delta symbol means nothing as far as I can see and offers no extras after the event is over and is only there for the player to see which of his characters are delta recruits if they run any other delta events in the future that might benefit you account wide also.
at the moment that's just an opinion, my opinion differs from yours, it remains to be see which is closest to the truth.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
And yes, there is always the chance that there will be related events in the future. Which is all the more reason to have the Symbol.
there again there may be many delta recruit only accolades and as you say the delta symbol but think of it like this, there are some accolades that can only be gained by feds and there a some that can only be gained by kdf and yet again there are some that can only be gained by romulans.
speaking from a collectors point of view I will say this if you have not got a character from each faction as I do that you play as a main like I do then whats your problem just look at this as like an extra faction the delta symbol being the mark of this faction, whos accolades you will never get.
if you have got a character from each faction then again look at this like an extra faction better to roll a character from this new faction to collect all that is limited to him & have a complete as possible collection then not have one and have your collection incomplete.
assuming you might have a character from each faction even if you could get the delta symbol for them all and make them delta recruits there is no way you could get all of the unknown extras for all 3 in the time allotted.
and I would say yes there may be related events in the future in fact I would say its a certainty, then all the more reason to have a delta recruit available to you even if it means rolling a new one and playing him as a character from a different faction even if he is a half faction like a romulan who plays many of the missions from his aligned faction.
and what better character to roll to maintain this notion then a romulan or reman, if you have a rom roll a reman and vice versa.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Obviously I'm going to have a Delta Recruit. I'd use the free character slot even if there was nothing special about it, just so it doesn't go to waste. The question never was whether I'm going to make a new character. I'd just like to have my collectibles on the character I play most. To have one complete character instead of a bunch of almost-completes. Maybe, maybe not. Depends on what we have to do to get them. So far the only tasks mentioned are "leveling up, playing through story content up through the Breen story arc, and finding special Delta Recruit objectives on certain mission maps." That doesn't sound like it would take over 7 weeks to do. Especially with XP bonuses.
EDIT: And yet another open question...Is there going to be different content for each faction? Should we really have 3 Delta Recruits to experience the event to the fullest? They're only giving us one free slot, are we expected to buy two more? I wouldn't call it a certainty just yet. Assuming the Delta Recruit status remains restricted to new characters, they'd pretty much have to give everyone a free character slot every time, so that players who didn't participate before can roll a Delta Recruit.
And if they're willing to disqualify existing characters from this event, that means they'll be willing to disqualify existing characters from future events, too. The next one may well be Gamma Recruit or something entirely different, and its all new characters for everyone yet again.
Or maybe
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Now naturally unless the game randomly grabs a same faction level 50+ alt from your account to stick into cutscenes they can't show your old captain, but if the Benefactor is kept hidden in the shadows or something, that paired with perhaps a mission with your high level captain being sent back in time briefly could at least cause the implications of your old toon being the benefactor to the new guy.
of course this is just a random idea that popped into my head with absolutely no basis in game.
At least that is what I am expecting, take the Temporal Cold War, sprinkle in some Back to the Future, Quantum Leap, ect...
Our Delta Recruit will be the character making these changes.
That is my theory. Would explain these account unlocks as results of changes to the timeline.
Can't wait to make my new Ferasan.
Why are they called "delta" recruits if the adjusted content designed for them only goes up to the breen arc?
seems to me there is no reason to call them "delta" unless there are going to be significant delta-recruits-only content in the delta quadrant to be released at some future date
haha if they do something like that i think the "veteran" players like myself and others who have spent years in this game and plenty of $$ in this game will be (to put it very nicely and understated) upset. which means they will loose a whole lot of players and gain a whole lot of negative pr. Probably enough to kill the game all together. PWE is money hungry not stupid
I cant see this how would this apply to new players who have no current captains to go back in time and show them the way.
this is more likely to be the case and it would make more sense for new players if the mysterious benefactor is a future of the delta characters themselves.
or it could just be a new character made especially to play this role, only time will tell, unless of course a future you has already contacted the present you and told you how things are going to go.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
If you think the community at large is going to go for this, you're gonna have a bit so friendly reminder of why City of Heroes/City of Villains fell apart. There are games like Star Wars: The Old Republic, Star Citizen (launches later this year with superior API) Star Trek: Timelines (launches later this year) and Sims of a Solar Empire (with Star Trek mods) that we will gladly move on to and let you realize that you may know how to make a game with a lot of toom customization, but when it comes to making a good game and keeping your community happy, you don't go pull TRIBBLE like this, you have A LOT to learn.
So I would suggest someone get on here and straighten out exactly what your intentions are with this new character..because if you're making our T5 toons obsolete like our T5 ships, you're gonna find the servers empty out faster than what happened on CoH/CoV.
That made existing players leave in droves...
Because it's not for our benefit, little sheep, it's for theirs.
If they wanted to do something for my benefit, they'd let my five-year-old character take part in this.
All this says is, "Hey, you guys that've been around since the beginning? Yeah. Ef you."
If they were doing anything for our benefit at all, it'd be different. Existing characters could do it. They wouldn't have made STFs that are Elite only. They wouldn't have released DR at ALL. They would have made the game more alt-friendly. They would be fixing bugs and not copping out with the excuse that not enough people are experiencing them to fix them.
Turning STO into an Asian-style grind with boredom and time wasting, then turning around and giving the finger to all of us who have been playing since the beginning?
That's not for MY benefit. It doesn't benefit anyone who's been playing this game for years.
Have you even read the blog? It will benefit new AND old because of the things that will be shared between characters (whatever they are). The only thing we know for sure won't be shared is the story, but I assume no one hating this event even cares about it. The point is, everyone is getting worked up for no apparent reason.
And can we just let go of the hate on Delta Rising? It has a few faults, but you all blow it completely out of proportion.
But what do I know? I'm just a "little sheep", just having fun while waiting for an interesting event to happen.:rolleyes: