So your "Bonus" wouldn't be the same Bonus we currently have? It would basically be a new system in its entirety?
What we have currently is actually:
A base level of damage based on what a white quality weapon of a type does.
A bonus applied based on color quality.
Bonuses/reductions applied based on Dmg mods, distances, and enemy resistances/resistance debuffing/shields/etc.
Bonuses applied based on abilities.
Bonuses applied based on crits.
I'm suggesting that these be split out into two forms of damage on every attack. These two forms could scale separately, limiting absolute scaling potential. But could be better for the basic player.
Base damage would be antiproton/phaser/disruptor/etc-type damage. And would scale based off of some things including resistances and distance and energy type consoles.
Bonus damage (Dmg mod, weapon quality improvement from white quality) would be Bonus-type and would scale off of separate considerations. Basic bonus damage would be MUCH higher than it is presently but would not scale positively or negatively off of range, resistances, and bridge officer abilities.
It is something of a new system but I'm proposing it based on what I think the intent of the current system is, particularly after reading Geko's post.
Man... I run a torpedo bomber, and I really like this change.
Most of my tac consoles are devoted to torpedo damage, but I still have a few poorly bonused energy weapons to take down shields/proc my BO shieldpen doffs. With this change, my torpedo damage has gone up noticeably... but my energy weapon damage is massively improved.
This still does nothing to address the massive power gap between fresh level 60 players and level 60 players with maxed out spec trees. In fact it kind of makes it worse. Remember back when you totally overhauled the Rep system traits because you didn't want a 'huge divide between fresh level 50 players and long standing level 50 players'... Then you did this...
Geko logic, because metrics.
I had some hope for the future of STO when they "nerfed" rep traits.
You can imagine my joy at what specializations have done.
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Let me translate this for you:
Cryptic is going to make mk13 +14 weapons more powerful.
In 2-3 weeks Cryptic will notice that the PVEs are too easy and require some balancing so the mission difficulty will be raised to match the new powerful weapons.
This of course will lead to the situation where players with MK12 weapons are not able to play these missions anymore because they have become too difficult now.
That forces these players to upgrade their weapons which will consume high amounts of dilithium and boosts the rates at which Zen is purchased by these players.
Mission accomplished!
Sometimes you just have to think like a Cryptic EP to see the long term goals.
Let me translate this for you:
Cryptic is going to make mk13 +14 weapons more powerful.
In 2-3 weeks Cryptic will notice that the PVEs are too easy and require some balancing so the mission difficulty will be raised to match the new powerful weapons.
This of course will lead to the situation where players with MK12 weapons are not able to play these missions anymore because they have become too difficult now.
That forces these players to upgrade their weapons which will consume high amounts of dilithium and boosts the rates at which Zen is purchased by these players.
Mission accomplished!
Sometimes you just have to think like a Cryptic EP to see the long term goals.
Why do I see the PVE queues, the ones who are active... getting quieter.
What about ground weapons?
We considered ground weapons, but ground weapons arent affect by items like consoles, and are affected by skill far less than space items. They are performing much closer to what would be expected.
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You really haven't checked out full auto rifles lately, have you? :P
Let me translate this for you:
Cryptic is going to make mk13 +14 weapons more powerful.
In 2-3 weeks Cryptic will notice that the PVEs are too easy and require some balancing so the mission difficulty will be raised to match the new powerful weapons.
This of course will lead to the situation where players with MK12 weapons are not able to play these missions anymore because they have become too difficult now.
That forces these players to upgrade their weapons which will consume high amounts of dilithium and boosts the rates at which Zen is purchased by these players.
Mission accomplished!
Sometimes you just have to think like a Cryptic EP to see the long term goals.
Sadly,that's pretty much it.
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There seem to be some questions as to why we changed the damage on Mark 13 and Mark 14 space weapons. So I wanted to explain the history and talk a little math.
As we were planning Mark 13 and Mark 14 item, we wanted them to be significantly better than Mark 12. All items generally increase at a lineal pace at about +10% improvement per Mark. We wanted the difference between Mark 12 and Mark 13 items to be more than that, and the difference between Mark 13 and Mark 14 to be even greater still. In general, we wanted Mark 14 items to be about +30% better than Mark 12 items. You can see this reflected in the HP of T5U and T6 ships.
So, technically, this was implemented correctly. If you just consider the weapon alone, a Mark 12 weapon that does 222 damage will do about 282 damage as Mark 14, which is around +27% slightly under target, but within the range of what we were shooting for. However, this is only true if you have no weapon skills, and no items (like consoles) that increase you weapon damage. If you have both Starship Weapon Training and Starship Energy Weapons skill, a Mark 12 weapon will do about 321 damage, while a Mark 14 will do about 381 damage, which is only around +19%. And if you add 4 weapon consoles, a Mark 12 weapon will do about 441 damage, while a Mark 14 will do about 501 damage, which is only around +14%. Basically, the diminishing returns system will reduce the bonus you get out of Mark 14 weapons, even though the weapons themselves are actually on target.
We feel most players have Starship Weapon Training and Starship Energy Weapons skill, and a lot of players have at least some item that makes their weapons better. So we wanted to make Mark 13 and 14 items have a more noticeable increase in damage that was in line with the increase in HP of critter and player ships. The new increase in damage will do the following:
If you have no skill and no energy weapon consoles: +50% damage from Mark 12 to Mark 14
If you have Starship Weapon Training and Starship Energy Weapons skill but no energy weapon consoles: +34% damage from Mark 12 to Mark 14
If you have Starship Weapon Training and Starship Energy Weapons skill and two (2) energy weapon consoles: +29% damage from Mark 12 to Mark 14
If you have Starship Weapon Training and Starship Energy Weapons skill and four (4) energy weapon consoles: +25% damage from Mark 12 to Mark 14
The last 3 scenarios average to about +30% increase in damage, which was the original target. If you have absolutely no skill or consoles, you get a much bigger boost, but this is unlikely, and you will probably need that boost anyway.
What about other items like shields, engines, etc?
Well, those items are not as aggressively effected by the same diminishing returns math that weapons are, so they really dont need to be increased? They are working as expected.
What about ground weapons?
We considered ground weapons, but ground weapons arent affect by items like consoles, and are affected by skill far less than space items. They are performing much closer to what would be expected.
What about PvP?
This change will have a larger effect in PvP that is, you PvP foes with Mark 14 weapons will kill you faster. This is true, but should still be more in line with PvP pre-Delta Rising, assuming a ship with Mark 14 gear is fighting a T5U or T6 ship. The bonus in HP vs Damage should now go up at comparable rates.
As always, no number are final. We will continue to monitor the data and feedback and tune as necessary. But hopefully, everyone will be excited that they will be blowing up bad guys a Iittle faster now.
LLAP
The DPS increases for MK XIII and MK XIV, but the MK XII are still not where they were a few weeks before DR came out. They were nerfed before DR, and have not been put back to where they were.
Also, with this newer Power creep, there is not a cost reduction to upgrading. I am sorry, but all of this long explanation says to me is, "We didn't get enough money from you, so will you spend it now? We give you more power, you give us more money."
Instead of adjusting the advance queues so they will be like they said they would, they are now trying to get everyone to spend money to upgrade weapons. Remember when they said that the elite queues were suppose to be for elite, but the advanced were only going to be slightly harder than the elite were.
All they had to do was lower the hit points of the NPC's hull, and shields. But it doesn't sell, so they try to sell more power creep. And now that the enemies are hitting harder too, it just makes it harder for ones that either can't afford to upgrade, or don't want to.
When I think that they can't do worse, they prove me wrong. At least we still have the underground snowmen to play with till January 15.
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The 128k TP is for taking a VR Mk XIII weapon to VR Mk XIV.
Consoles, Deflectors/Engines, etc all have different prices.
And that's TP...not Dil. Technology Points.
Taking a UR Exploiter Mk XII to Mk XIII is 23400 TP. That's around 2k Dil.
128k TP would be 10x Superior...without any crits. Without using any TP boosts, you'd be looking at 10,750 Dil for that upgrade (1075 Dil per).
Do you folks even bother looking at things before commenting? I mean, seriously...
These maths are seriously flawed and don't take unto account the dili to craft. No one is considering TP as a "cost". You're mixing apples and oranges here. A rough estimate for upgrading one weapon from XI to XIV is 100k dilith. Per weapon. Its too expensive IF we consider all the nerfs to actually getting said dilith. Every time we find a decent place to farm some, once Cryptic hears about it, it gets nerfed.
"Expensive" is ultimately subjective. For many of us, upgrading more than one set of weapons/tac consoles/engine sets is prohibitively costly so we simply aren't even making the attempt. Sometimes its nice to just play a game without having to constantly grind to play the game. Most casual players aren't space rich. I sometimes think the game is being altered around the few who are or who are willing to drop $100s per week on STO. I am not and I'm not alone. I spent a fair anount to support the game but its apparently not enough.
These maths are seriously flawed and don't take unto account the dili to craft. No one is considering TP as a "cost". You're mixing apples and oranges here. A rough estimate for upgrading one weapon from XI to XIV is 100k dilith. Per weapon. Its too expensive IF we consider all the nerfs to actually getting said dilith. Every time we find a decent place to farm some, once Cryptic hears about it, it gets nerfed.
"Expensive" is ultimately subjective. For many of us, upgrading more than one set of weapons/tac consoles/engine sets is prohibitively costly so we simply aren't even making the attempt. Sometimes its nice to just play a game without having to constantly grind to play the game.
Nah, they're pretty much dead on. Remember, making the actual Tech Upgrades doesn't cost dilithuim, just materials and EC's. It's the application of the Tech Upgrades that costs dilithium.
My own preference for reducing cost as opposed to increasing reward stems more from, as VD mentioned, the overall long-term cost of Upgrading including quality, especially when playing more than one character and more than one build... and the extra cost for Upgrading Torps and Rep Gear. Probably my fault for wanting to play multiple characters, but that's why I haven't bothered with Upgrading much. As you said, "expensive" is a subjective term... for VD the cost is reasonable, for me it's not, thus the difference in opinion. Which I'm fine with.
Besides, it's Thursday... that ship has sailed. :P
With each passing day I wonder if I stepped into an alternate reality. The Cubs win the world series. Donald Trump is President. Britain leaves the EU. STO gets a dedicated PvP season. Engineers are "out of control" in STO.
Yeah, I upgraded my Dyson Shield to Mark 13 and after that experience I was done with the goofy upgrade system. I do fine without it, I do the content I enjoy like the episodes, patrols, mirror invasion, Foundery Missions, Dyson Sphere battlezone stuff, even the Winter Event stuff, which I enjoy now that I know how to win the ice race. I have my Fleet Corsair T-U, and all kinds of cool weapons as stuff on it. I don't need this stuff upgraded, I don't pvp often and when I don't I don't mind blowing up. In the case of the ice race I'm almost doing it more for fun then for the ship, the only part I want is the ship trait for my fleet corsair T-U. The Breen Ships are where symetery went to die.
In my experience the key to enjoying STO is ignore pay to win and only do the content you enjoy. I don't do lockboxes, although I've bought odds and ends from them on the exchange. .
For me dear Virus, neither as I do not plan on upgrading any time soon!
My dilithium is far to valuable, to be dumping into such a TRIBBLE system, that doesn't even work 100% yet.
Yeah, same here. I don't want to waste 9 million EC and almost 20,000 refined dil for each of my 6 fleet AP beam arrays to only get a tiny bump in the stats.
The 128k TP is for taking a VR Mk XIII weapon to VR Mk XIV.
Consoles, Deflectors/Engines, etc all have different prices.
And that's TP...not Dil. Technology Points.
Taking a UR Exploiter Mk XII to Mk XIII is 23400 TP. That's around 2k Dil.
128k TP would be 10x Superior...without any crits. Without using any TP boosts, you'd be looking at 10,750 Dil for that upgrade (1075 Dil per).
Do you folks even bother looking at things before commenting? I mean, seriously...
It's the Rarity Upgrades that really hurt, of course. And Rep Shields/KCB, etc, go for 318k TP per round (as of Very Rare Mk XIV). Some of my UR weps take like 212k TP. Those really are wicked numbers, especially when you have to multiply by 6-8, for weps (and then x5 or so to strike lucky).
And a single Superior Tech costs ca. 400k EC nowadays. That adds up real fast too.
Nah, they're pretty much dead on. Remember, making the actual Tech Upgrades doesn't cost dilithuim, just materials and EC's. It's the application of the Tech Upgrades that costs dilithium.
My own preference for reducing cost as opposed to increasing reward stems more from, as VD mentioned, the overall long-term cost of Upgrading including quality, especially when playing more than one character and more than one build... and the extra cost for Upgrading Torps and Rep Gear. Probably my fault for wanting to play multiple characters, but that's why I haven't bothered with Upgrading much. As you said, "expensive" is a subjective term... for VD the cost is reasonable, for me it's not, thus the difference in opinion. Which I'm fine with.
Besides, it's Thursday... that ship has sailed. :P
I should have been more accurate. I just meant they were off in the context of what is considered cost. The application of the tech is how I see the cost. The materials I see more as time to get them. (IF they can be gotten during play and not bought on the exchange).
In the end, subjective or not, it seems many people find upgrading to expensive one way or another. An old fleetmate who I work with irl asked me if he should come back to STO and I simply told him only if you don't chase the upgrade dragon and just play the older content with what gear/ships he has. Progression has become a mountain too high to climb for most of us.
Thanks for your response, though. Its unfortunate that so many of us have become discouraged by one cost or another.
you can complete all the current elite content in mk12 EQ
why make 13 n14 stronger?
ah right to post buff pve content to make it unplayable to mk12 EQ to firce ppl to upgrade
makes sense
See, the problem you've got going there is that you can do something you expect everybody else can do it. But that's simply not the case...we've got years of powercreep showing that, cause the content never got harder - but they kept boosting power over and over again. It allows folks that couldn't do it to do it.
All the paranoid and delusional stuff is kind of a trip...when the obvious reason is the same reason that they've been doing it for years. You could take somebody's 20-30k build and drop the majority of the playerbase in it, and they're unlikely even to see 5k. This is an extremely casual game aimed at Star Trek fans...not Star Trek gamers. If it were aimed at Star Trek gamers, lol, there would be a Hell of a lot more complaints.
The instant I saw this change I knew this was nothing more than ANOTHER contrived way to force players to UPGRADE their EXISTING purchases for the xNUM time, and then some excuse announced to justify the "upping" of the difficulty of all content to force our hand.
I don't like this business model. It leaves me with no choice. I might as well be a hamster on a wheel.
Everything is designed to force players into a narrowing conclusion of spending money. "Free" is really only "free" to unlock. The really cost comes later when you locked into the system.
Cryptic killed the EC economy much like economic hit-men that go into parts of the world to reek havoc on foreign competition.
I have not spent a dime on this game in over 1 1/2 years and I will NEVER again. FUverymuch.
I don't even want to think about how much I've dropped money-wise in 4+ years. All I do know is I'm not dropping a dollar more until/unless I see some movement on rolling back some of these nerfs/extreme upgrade costs. Metrics be damned.
btw this was nothing to get excited about. I wrote down some numbers pre and post for 13 and 14 and the change is minute.
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btw this was nothing to get excited about. I wrote down some numbers pre and post for 13 and 14 and the change is minute.
I've been at work and only messed with the game post-patch long enough to see neither the skillbar nor the Breen ship issue had been fixed. I haven't been able to check out if the "buff" was consequential or not. I'm keeping an open mind but the 2nd hand info Im hearing so far is that this change is barely noticeable. I'm curious however if this frees up a tac slot or two without sacrificing too much dps. Honestly, Im glad some at Cryptic are engaging more the last few days but I can't help but to be cautious with things said.
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So, the one thing that actually didn't need buffing in this game, and they buffed it? People have been saying for a while now that one of the issues with DR was how build variety unfriendly the game is, and this is the response?
I'm guessing this is going to be some petty attempt at trying to justify the upgrade costs in the future, which is pretty sad to be honest.
There's no hope....
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So, the one thing that actually didn't need buffing in this game, and they buffed it? People have been saying for a while now that one of the issues with DR was how build variety unfriendly the game is, and this is the response?
I'm guessing this is going to be some petty attempt at trying to justify the upgrade costs in the future, which is pretty sad to be honest.
There's no hope....
Oh please, one of the appeals to the game was how easy it was prior to DR.
This is just a little to bring that back.
Don't forget this is a video game, games are fun and it's so easy to upgrade all your stuff yourself.
The only people in our fleet who complained about the costs are the ones who could not wait.
Thanks goodness only a small percent of players vist the forums.
Oh please, one of the appeals to the game was how easy it was prior to DR.
This is just a little to bring that back.
Don't forget this is a video game, games are fun and it's so easy to upgrade all your stuff yourself.
The only people in our fleet who complained about the costs are the ones who could not wait.
Thanks goodness only a small percent of players vist the forums.
Yeah I completely agree it easy to upgrade gear. Especially when you play right into cryptic hands and dump hundreds of dollars/pounds into the system. Cryptic have essentially turned the entire game into a DPS race. Which isn't all bad. Since it will force people to up their game some what.
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What we have currently is actually:
A base level of damage based on what a white quality weapon of a type does.
A bonus applied based on color quality.
Bonuses/reductions applied based on Dmg mods, distances, and enemy resistances/resistance debuffing/shields/etc.
Bonuses applied based on abilities.
Bonuses applied based on crits.
I'm suggesting that these be split out into two forms of damage on every attack. These two forms could scale separately, limiting absolute scaling potential. But could be better for the basic player.
Base damage would be antiproton/phaser/disruptor/etc-type damage. And would scale based off of some things including resistances and distance and energy type consoles.
Bonus damage (Dmg mod, weapon quality improvement from white quality) would be Bonus-type and would scale off of separate considerations. Basic bonus damage would be MUCH higher than it is presently but would not scale positively or negatively off of range, resistances, and bridge officer abilities.
It is something of a new system but I'm proposing it based on what I think the intent of the current system is, particularly after reading Geko's post.
Most of my tac consoles are devoted to torpedo damage, but I still have a few poorly bonused energy weapons to take down shields/proc my BO shieldpen doffs. With this change, my torpedo damage has gone up noticeably... but my energy weapon damage is massively improved.
This truly is the age of the torpedo boat.
I had some hope for the future of STO when they "nerfed" rep traits.
You can imagine my joy at what specializations have done.
That is *exactly* how things will go down!
UNLESS players "work" for Dilithium spending more time in the game and less real money trying to buy the D from other players.
Why do I see the PVE queues, the ones who are active... getting quieter.
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You really haven't checked out full auto rifles lately, have you? :P
Sadly,that's pretty much it.
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The DPS increases for MK XIII and MK XIV, but the MK XII are still not where they were a few weeks before DR came out. They were nerfed before DR, and have not been put back to where they were.
Also, with this newer Power creep, there is not a cost reduction to upgrading. I am sorry, but all of this long explanation says to me is, "We didn't get enough money from you, so will you spend it now? We give you more power, you give us more money."
Instead of adjusting the advance queues so they will be like they said they would, they are now trying to get everyone to spend money to upgrade weapons. Remember when they said that the elite queues were suppose to be for elite, but the advanced were only going to be slightly harder than the elite were.
All they had to do was lower the hit points of the NPC's hull, and shields. But it doesn't sell, so they try to sell more power creep. And now that the enemies are hitting harder too, it just makes it harder for ones that either can't afford to upgrade, or don't want to.
When I think that they can't do worse, they prove me wrong. At least we still have the underground snowmen to play with till January 15.
These maths are seriously flawed and don't take unto account the dili to craft. No one is considering TP as a "cost". You're mixing apples and oranges here. A rough estimate for upgrading one weapon from XI to XIV is 100k dilith. Per weapon. Its too expensive IF we consider all the nerfs to actually getting said dilith. Every time we find a decent place to farm some, once Cryptic hears about it, it gets nerfed.
"Expensive" is ultimately subjective. For many of us, upgrading more than one set of weapons/tac consoles/engine sets is prohibitively costly so we simply aren't even making the attempt. Sometimes its nice to just play a game without having to constantly grind to play the game. Most casual players aren't space rich. I sometimes think the game is being altered around the few who are or who are willing to drop $100s per week on STO. I am not and I'm not alone. I spent a fair anount to support the game but its apparently not enough.
Nah, they're pretty much dead on. Remember, making the actual Tech Upgrades doesn't cost dilithuim, just materials and EC's. It's the application of the Tech Upgrades that costs dilithium.
My own preference for reducing cost as opposed to increasing reward stems more from, as VD mentioned, the overall long-term cost of Upgrading including quality, especially when playing more than one character and more than one build... and the extra cost for Upgrading Torps and Rep Gear. Probably my fault for wanting to play multiple characters, but that's why I haven't bothered with Upgrading much. As you said, "expensive" is a subjective term... for VD the cost is reasonable, for me it's not, thus the difference in opinion. Which I'm fine with.
Besides, it's Thursday... that ship has sailed. :P
In my experience the key to enjoying STO is ignore pay to win and only do the content you enjoy. I don't do lockboxes, although I've bought odds and ends from them on the exchange. .
For me dear Virus, neither as I do not plan on upgrading any time soon!
My dilithium is far to valuable, to be dumping into such a TRIBBLE system, that doesn't even work 100% yet.
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Yeah, same here. I don't want to waste 9 million EC and almost 20,000 refined dil for each of my 6 fleet AP beam arrays to only get a tiny bump in the stats.
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It's the Rarity Upgrades that really hurt, of course. And Rep Shields/KCB, etc, go for 318k TP per round (as of Very Rare Mk XIV). Some of my UR weps take like 212k TP. Those really are wicked numbers, especially when you have to multiply by 6-8, for weps (and then x5 or so to strike lucky).
And a single Superior Tech costs ca. 400k EC nowadays. That adds up real fast too.
I should have been more accurate. I just meant they were off in the context of what is considered cost. The application of the tech is how I see the cost. The materials I see more as time to get them. (IF they can be gotten during play and not bought on the exchange).
In the end, subjective or not, it seems many people find upgrading to expensive one way or another. An old fleetmate who I work with irl asked me if he should come back to STO and I simply told him only if you don't chase the upgrade dragon and just play the older content with what gear/ships he has. Progression has become a mountain too high to climb for most of us.
Thanks for your response, though. Its unfortunate that so many of us have become discouraged by one cost or another.
why make 13 n14 stronger?
ah right to post buff pve content to make it unplayable to mk12 EQ to firce ppl to upgrade
makes sense
This is Geko's top secret plan! How did you work it out?
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See, the problem you've got going there is that you can do something you expect everybody else can do it. But that's simply not the case...we've got years of powercreep showing that, cause the content never got harder - but they kept boosting power over and over again. It allows folks that couldn't do it to do it.
All the paranoid and delusional stuff is kind of a trip...when the obvious reason is the same reason that they've been doing it for years. You could take somebody's 20-30k build and drop the majority of the playerbase in it, and they're unlikely even to see 5k. This is an extremely casual game aimed at Star Trek fans...not Star Trek gamers. If it were aimed at Star Trek gamers, lol, there would be a Hell of a lot more complaints.
I don't like this business model. It leaves me with no choice. I might as well be a hamster on a wheel.
Everything is designed to force players into a narrowing conclusion of spending money. "Free" is really only "free" to unlock. The really cost comes later when you locked into the system.
Cryptic killed the EC economy much like economic hit-men that go into parts of the world to reek havoc on foreign competition.
I have not spent a dime on this game in over 1 1/2 years and I will NEVER again. FUverymuch.
I really should get that psych degree. I could make a decent living off this forum.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
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Take note of this folks. Save your money.
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I've been at work and only messed with the game post-patch long enough to see neither the skillbar nor the Breen ship issue had been fixed. I haven't been able to check out if the "buff" was consequential or not. I'm keeping an open mind but the 2nd hand info Im hearing so far is that this change is barely noticeable. I'm curious however if this frees up a tac slot or two without sacrificing too much dps. Honestly, Im glad some at Cryptic are engaging more the last few days but I can't help but to be cautious with things said.
Level 13 Grav torpedo - 659 to 691 dps = 5%
Level 14 Prot Polaron DBB - 490 to 542 = 10%
Level 14 Beam bank - 377 to 417 = 10%
It's not going to break or change anything.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
I'm guessing this is going to be some petty attempt at trying to justify the upgrade costs in the future, which is pretty sad to be honest.
There's no hope....
Oh please, one of the appeals to the game was how easy it was prior to DR.
This is just a little to bring that back.
Don't forget this is a video game, games are fun and it's so easy to upgrade all your stuff yourself.
The only people in our fleet who complained about the costs are the ones who could not wait.
Thanks goodness only a small percent of players vist the forums.
Yeah I completely agree it easy to upgrade gear. Especially when you play right into cryptic hands and dump hundreds of dollars/pounds into the system. Cryptic have essentially turned the entire game into a DPS race. Which isn't all bad. Since it will force people to up their game some what.