Don't let me stop you from doing what you want, go right ahead!
knock your socks off, after all it's your time being wasted, not mine!
Well, for a start, one only needs to review this thread to see your standard operating procedure is to ignore what people actually post and go after what you think (or perhaps wish) they posted.
Second, also seen here, when someone points out where you are wrong you just ignore it. For example, your constant claiming 15-20k is some sort of impossible target that only specific ships built specific ways could do it, when in fact every T5 in STO can do that.
Lastly, all someone needs do is search for you on the subject of A2B.
And, yes even I could be deemed an unworthy sinner but, at least I acknowledge my faults, same cannot be said for you.
That screams total arrogance, along with demonstrating a clear head in sand moment. "And, yes even I" wrote as if you are some sort of example of virtue.
And I do acknowledge my faults. I just ensure I need to as little as possible.
actually I dont really see how he is super far off-topic.
This whole thread is about talking these kinda things over:
Thanks to cbrjwrr for keeping working on it though.
No worries. I don't mind people who don't want to do DPS, hell, I mostly run 10k or so on a character* who could easily double to triple it if I could be bothered to put in even the slightest bit of effort - The problem is STO PvE is now designed purely around it, so I don't want to anymore...
I wouldn't mind if it was actually more difficult - Give NPCs an overhaul and decent scripting and we could make them outperform over 90% of players in their own builds - but instead we just get stacks of Hit points as if it is anything more than tedious.
And you could STILL do it in a T1 or T2 if it wasn't for the timer! That is the daft bit, it isn't any more difficult, it is just more tedious and takes longer...
Well, for a start, one only needs to review this thread to see your standard operating procedure is to ignore what people actually post and go after what you think (or perhaps wish) they posted.
Second, also seen here, when someone points out where you are wrong you just ignore it. For example, your constant claiming 15-20k is some sort of impossible target that only specific ships built specific ways could do it, when in fact every T5 in STO can do that.
Lastly, all someone needs do is search for you on the subject of A2B.
That screams total arrogance, along with demonstrating a clear head in sand moment. "And, yes even I" wrote as if you are some sort of example of virtue.
And I do acknowledge my faults. I just ensure I need to as little as possible.
No worries. I don't mind people who don't want to do DPS, hell, I mostly run 10k or so on a character* who could easily double to triple it if I could be bothered to put in even the slightest bit of effort - The problem is STO PvE is now designed purely around it, so I don't want to anymore...
I wouldn't mind if it was actually more difficult - Give NPCs an overhaul and decent scripting and we could make them outperform over 90% of players in their own builds - but instead we just get stacks of Hit points as if it is anything more than tedious.
And you could STILL do it in a T1 or T2 if it wasn't for the timer! That is the daft bit, it isn't any more difficult, it is just more tedious and takes longer...
* Its silly isn't it, doing that little.
Funny, I do believe this is the first time, I have ever seen you admit a fault, otherwise it is utter bragging, arrogance, with the occasional advise to fill in some of the rest.
And, I never said 15-20k is some impossible number to accomplish nor, did I state that no tier5 ship couldn't accomplish this task.
What was stated, was that not every single build and, not every single piece of gear possibly obtained on those builds will net you that easy 15k-20k nor, will every single useable boff skill and, same goes for every single doff able to be used.
My information is not incorrect, in stating that it takes a fairly narrow list of overall useable skills/gear/etc. to hit that mark without effort and, even narrower when going to the great beyond of the 50-80k ranges.
As for my old post about aux2batt, that has no relevance with this thread nor, even our argument.
I made my point of view clear about that subject regarding the skill w/doffs, to try and bring it up now, shows you have little kindle for your fire to burn with so, instead you are settling for straw.
How ironic that Dps league players are all being lumped together as bad because of a few bad apples such as myself.
Yet when all scrubs get lumped together as bad... the special snowflakes (hypocrites) show up in droves to decry being called a scrub.
It's truly funny. Keep up the hypocrisy though it's quite amusing. I mean, if one elitist can justify labelling all Dps league players as elitist making the entire group look bad...then one scrub can also justify labelling all scrubs as baddies.
See how that works?
I have joined many cap'n hold matches in progress only to see 4 or 5 DPS channel scimitars spawn camping helpless pugs trying to farm dailys, it is a bad group. They have to do that because they min max so much their scims can't survive in pvp when not camping. I try to talk to some and they make excuses like the game is so easy and boring now so nothing to do.
I have joined many cap'n hold matches in progress only to see 4 or 5 DPS channel scimitars spawn camping helpless pugs trying to farm dailys, it is a bad group. They have to do that because they min max so much their scims can't survive in pvp when not camping. I try to talk to some and they make excuses like the game is so easy and boring now so nothing to do.
Why should a team in PVP do something that does not make them survive? I thought survival better then the other team was the goal in PVP, so you adapt the team strategy to do so. Camping is possible because Cryptic designed PvP to allow it.
How ironic that Dps league players are all being lumped together as bad because of a few bad apples such as myself.
Yet when all scrubs get lumped together as bad... the special snowflakes (hypocrites) show up in droves to decry being called a scrub.
It's truly funny. Keep up the hypocrisy though it's quite amusing. I mean, if one elitist can justify labelling all Dps league players as elitist making the entire group look bad...then one scrub can also justify labelling all scrubs as baddies.
See how that works?
Well those few bad apples, can sour an entire batch of cider so to speak!
You only further the fire to flame up, like a billow does for a metal smith.
I have joined many cap'n hold matches in progress only to see 4 or 5 DPS channel scimitars spawn camping helpless pugs trying to farm dailys, it is a bad group. They have to do that because they min max so much their scims can't survive in pvp when not camping. I try to talk to some and they make excuses like the game is so easy and boring now so nothing to do.
I witnessed this too and it really just amounts to straight up trolling/griefing by these guys. Reminds me of when the goon squad kids / dental kids where trolling the queues daily calling everyone scrubs and telling everyone to get good. Whatever.
It just makes you wonder how old these people are that they need to go around calling people scrubs and posting silly internet articles on scrubbery to reinforce their egos...
I have joined many cap'n hold matches in progress only to see 4 or 5 DPS channel scimitars spawn camping helpless pugs trying to farm dailys, it is a bad group. They have to do that because they min max so much their scims can't survive in pvp when not camping. I try to talk to some and they make excuses like the game is so easy and boring now so nothing to do.
Lol, I'd love to spawn and kick off the Voth Shield followed by FBP3, see how they like camping then. Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of Cap'N Hold.
Most DPS builds pretty much suck in the PvP world.
Lol, I'd love to spawn and kick off the Voth Shield followed by FBP3, see how they like camping then. Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of Cap'N Hold.
Most DPS builds pretty much suck in the PvP world.
Lol, yeah the sad part is, my deemed sad and pathetic low scrub dps builds, are perfectly viable in pvp, none - very little changes ever.
And I can queue up, go in, kick some butts.
Of course I take my share of butt handing to me as well but, I tend to keep a higher K:D ratio than butt hurting.
I only play it once in a while, just for some quick fun and rewarded dilithium & EC's, plus it helps other's looking to do the same, than so be it.
My only real quam, with the whole PVP gameplay is, the absurd level of dps we inflict on each other and, that annoying red box popping up when we are to high on the map.
Cryptic, I don't need some freaking red box constantly pestering me, telling me I am too high. I already know this!
otherwise it is utter bragging, arrogance, with the occasional advise to fill in some of the rest.
And, I never said 15-20k is some impossible number to accomplish nor, did I state that no tier5 ship couldn't accomplish this task.
What was stated, was that not every single build and, not every single piece of gear possibly obtained on those builds will net you that easy 15k-20k nor, will every single useable boff skill and, same goes for every single doff able to be used.
My information is not incorrect, in stating that it takes a fairly narrow list of overall useable skills/gear/etc. to hit that mark without effort and, even narrower when going to the great beyond of the 50-80k ranges.
As for my old post about aux2batt, that has no relevance with this thread nor, even our argument.
I made my point of view clear about that subject regarding the skill w/doffs, to try and bring it up now, shows you have little kindle for your fire to burn with so, instead you are settling for straw.
No, you just chose to read it as such.
Actually, you have. Repeatedly.
No, what you said was not that, don't try and ret-con it to make yourself look better. You have constantly been going off on one saying 15k and above required special ships, special equipment, special boff powers, special doffs and how DPSers say you have to use these items and these items alone, and every time someone proves you wrong.
Unless your starting point is a Galaxy Retrofit or similar Lt. Tac/2 tac console ship, 15k is pretty easy. If I was to finish doffing B'Tran I could get my 10k with next to no effort Vulcan into a 15k next to no effort Vulcan. Hell, if I could be bothered, I could have her doing 30k DPS in just 2 weeks time...
Well of course it would require that to do 50k and beyond. To do 50k is something very few players can do, and very few ships can do.
No, the A2B threads are significant, because you are doing what you did then, all over again - spouting off about a topic you don't understand. And more importantly, don't want to understand. Your point of view was wrong, and built entirely on misunderstanding and wilful ignorance, same as you are doing here.
Lol, I'd love to spawn and kick off the Voth Shield followed by FBP3, see how they like camping then. Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of Cap'N Hold.
Most DPS builds pretty much suck in the PvP world.
Well of course they would. Bringing a 50k DPS PvE build to PvP is like bringing an F1 car to a World Rally Championship gravel or snow stage - sure, an F1 car is PDQ on a track (and if your spine can cope with the jarring, and your eyes with the blur as the bumps strike a very, very stiff suspension system and shake you around a lot, on a road) but on a rally stage it would be totally useless.
Why should a team in PVP do something that does not make them survive? I thought survival better then the other team was the goal in PVP, so you adapt the team strategy to do so. Camping is possible because Cryptic designed PvP to allow it.
I witnessed this too and it really just amounts to straight up trolling/griefing by these guys. Reminds me of when the goon squad kids / dental kids where trolling the queues daily calling everyone scrubs and telling everyone to get good. Whatever.
It just makes you wonder how old these people are that they need to go around calling people scrubs and posting silly internet articles on scrubbery to reinforce their egos...
I witnessed it at least 4 times over the past few months. really sad that rather then build for pvp and sacrifice some of their precious DPS or just stick to pve they go that route instead.
Given your reading ability, I am entirely unsurprised. You've never managed to read my posts right before after all.
No, you just chose to read it as such.
Actually, you have. Repeatedly.
No, what you said was not that, don't try and ret-con it to make yourself look better. You have constantly been going off on one saying 15k and above required special ships, special equipment, special boff powers, special doffs and how DPSers say you have to use these items and these items alone, and every time someone proves you wrong.
Unless your starting point is a Galaxy Retrofit or similar Lt. Tac/2 tac console ship, 15k is pretty easy. If I was to finish doffing B'Tran I could get my 10k with next to no effort Vulcan into a 15k next to no effort Vulcan. Hell, if I could be bothered, I could have her doing 30k DPS in just 2 weeks time...
Well of course it would require that to do 50k and beyond. To do 50k is something very few players can do, and very few ships can do.
No, the A2B threads are significant, because you are doing what you did then, all over again - spouting off about a topic you don't understand. And more importantly, don't want to understand. Your point of view was wrong, and built entirely on misunderstanding and wilful ignorance, same as you are doing here.
Well of course they would. Bringing a 50k DPS PvE build to PvP is like bringing an F1 car to a World Rally Championship gravel or snow stage - sure, an F1 car is PDQ on a track (and if your spine can cope with the jarring, and your eyes with the blur as the bumps strike a very, very stiff suspension system and shake you around a lot, on a road) but on a rally stage it would be totally useless.
Well, start digging up this so called condescending posts, because so far you haven't done any better at proving a point, than myself have!
tell you what, build me a easy 15k mirror mogai heavy warbird, with no fleet gear and only rare doffs 5 of them to be exact.
I will try it out in a pug, than see if it even comes slightly close and, don't give me it's not a tier5 vessel TRIBBLE neither, because it technically is a tier5, only it is a tier5 sub-admiral, heck you can even go for the actual tier5 mogai retro if you see fit, as I have both.
No fleet version so, sorry cannot use that one as the base ship and, don't worry about my piloting skills, they are more than adequate.
Let's see if it is just so easy with any tier5 ship, on a very narrow shoe string budget like many claim.
Done it already but, I want you all to build one for me, seeing how you all are so willing to help the so called community!
Oh, and see if a torpedo can be factored in to it, because I know how much you all love torpedoes. :rolleyes:
Mind you, mine wasn't pug tested and, Shadowwraith approved so to speak, as I prefer pugging dps #'s to back claims, over pre-made feeding.
Put some of that so called community aid to work, otherwise stuff your money where the sun doesn't shine!
sure sure. i believe that evasion.
so let me ask you again, since you don't care about DPS and the DPS league; why are you still posting here? it seems to me you are more obsessed about DPS than anyone in the DPS League by the near stalking behavior you are exhibiting.
Remember in another post you stated that you where just posting to incite, troll and raise your post count? You got your wrist slapped by a mod for doing so but apparently you haven't learned and are back to the same MO.
If you keep insisting that you don't care yet obsessively continue to post, someone might report you again.
Well, start digging up this so called condescending posts, because so far you haven't done any better at proving a point, than myself have!
tell you what, build me a easy 15k mirror mogai heavy warbird, with no fleet gear and only rare doffs 5 of them to be exact.
I will try it out in a pug, than see if it even comes slightly close and, don't give me it's not a tier5 vessel TRIBBLE neither, because it technically is a tier5, only it is a tier5 sub-admiral, heck you can even go for the actual tier5 mogai retro if you see fit, as I have both.
No fleet version so, sorry cannot use that one as the base ship and, don't worry about my piloting skills, they are more than adequate.
Let's see if it is just so easy with any tier5 ship, on a very narrow shoe string budget like many claim.
Why - you will only deny it. Just like you always do, its why I haven't bothered already. You are a wilful troll, and I treat you as such. I humour you when it amuses me to do so - you prove nothing except your own failings on every post.
This latest spat with sarcasm only reinforces it. You, not trolling? Don't make us laugh.
None of what I have posted in this thread, is by any means trolling to be trolling...heck I am not even trolling.
I post in the threads you all make, because you come off making me want to actually despise you for, the two sided action you all take regarding how you help the community but, at the same time totally come in these threads and mock the very people you claim you all are out to help!
Like I said, you all feed the fire that burns you the hottest.
What are you trying to accomplish?
I say this with sincerity. Picture in your mind the perfect scenario where you get what you want from him and explain it to me and everyone else who is reading this. Hate is a strong emotion to feel for someone you've never met and have practically no connection to.
The guys in the dps channels are good people, i've been with the community a while now and they've helped me to up my game and i've seen many others follow the same path as i have taken.
Currently i have one of the top 10 dps scores, and until recently i wouldn't have believed it possible. If people wanna continue to cry about elitism, then let them, if they want the help you're offering, and in turn that i offer, they know where to go to find it.
The thing you gotta remember about these folk, is they're grown ups, not just kids who've figured out the game and troll over everyone. The won't take TRIBBLE from people and you gotta listen if you want their help. If they know something to be fact, there's no point discussing it and trying to tell them you think they're wrong, when, with DPS numbers, they are factual. Torps sucking for example, it is quite possible to build a torp boat that can handle the content in this game, but, if you want the biggest numbers, beams are proven to be the way to go.
Just if you wanna learn to get higher dps, then give these guys a chance, if not, go do whatever it is you wanna do instead.
SCM - Infected(S) - DMG Out: 11,776,567 DPS: 114,224.70 (28.7% of Team) - Pinky@ukcaptain420 I reserve the right to have a completely different standpoint depending on my mood.
I say this with sincerity. Picture in your mind the perfect scenario where you get what you want from him and explain it to me and everyone else who is reading this. Hate is a strong emotion to feel for someone you've never met and have practically no connection to.
It's not so much as the person to be hated, it is the way the person comes off portraying themselves, that deserves the distaste for them!
The guys in the dps channels are good people, i've been with the community a while now and they've helped me to up my game and i've seen many others follow the same path as i have taken.
Currently i have one of the top 10 dps scores, and until recently i wouldn't have believed it possible. If people wanna continue to cry about elitism, then let them, if they want the help you're offering, and in turn that i offer, they know where to go to find it.
The thing you gotta remember about these folk, is they're grown ups, not just kids who've figured out the game and troll over everyone. The won't take TRIBBLE from people and you gotta listen if you want their help. If they know something to be fact, there's no point discussing it and trying to tell them you think they're wrong, when, with DPS numbers, they are factual. Torps sucking for example, it is quite possible to build a torp boat that can handle the content in this game, but, if you want the biggest numbers, beams are proven to be the way to go.
Just if you wanna learn to get higher dps, then give these guys a chance, if not, go do whatever it is you wanna do instead.
Now this kind of post would be better suited as having you for their PR guy but, what you say today, will undoubtedly be made to be looked past when the so called, sour apples get their snide remarks in and, therefore completely ruining what good intention you had displayed in the first place.
I attack you all, because some or, most of your group seems it is a necessity, to make you all come off as what people label you as and, than you wonder why you get such negative remarks regarding you all as such.
You can't come of smelling like roses, when people associated with you, bury you in piles of raw manure and, expect it not to leave a foul taste in people's mouths!
It's not so much as the person to be hated, it is the way the person comes off portraying themselves, that deserves the distaste for them!
Ok, for once one of you actually made me laugh, even if you were not trying to.
Ok I can understand that, but it doesn't answer the why though, if someone pisses me off and it's easy to ignore them (it's dead simple on a forum lets be honest) then I will.
So you must have a reason and since I can see more people coming to the defense Sarcasmdetector than opposing him I'm struggling to to figure out what that actually might be. I'm sure it makes sense in your head but I find it always helps to try and explain to other people.
Now this kind of post would be better suited as having you for their PR guy but, what you say today, will undoubtedly be made to be looked past when the so called, sour apples get their snide remarks in and, therefore completely ruining what good intention you had displayed in the first place.
I attack you all, because some or, most of your group seems it is a necessity, to make you all come off as what people label you as and, than you wonder why you get such negative remarks regarding you all as such.
You can't come of smelling like roses, when people associated with you, bury you in piles of raw manure and, expect it not to leave a foul taste in people's mouths!
You still have not answered my question. So again, what do you gain from all your unfriendlyness? This not the only topic in which you show unfrienlyness.
If you want to be unfriendly fine, you are free to do as you like, but a bit strange in my opinion if someone mostly only writes unfriendly posts in the STO topics.
Ok I can understand that, but it doesn't answer the why though, if someone pisses me off and it's easy to ignore them (it's dead simple on a forum lets be honest) then I will.
So you must have a reason and since I can see more people coming to the defense Sarcasmdetector than opposing him I'm struggling to to figure out what that actually might be. I'm sure it makes sense in your head but I find it always helps to try and explain to other people.
Well, for starter's the lack of respect some of you all show towards people like myself so, someone has to stand up against it, even if it is only for myself.
2nd, I take a huge offense regarding some of the comments related to my religious beliefs and, if you think I am kidding, you would be dead wrong.
In fact, it would be nice if a civil suite could be brought up against them and, no not one for money but, maybe some good old fashioned community service, as a fitting punishment to show some humility to those, who would go around putting down other's religious beliefs!
Than maybe you all can truly say, you have helped your community!
These 2, would be my top reasons for doing so if, you must know!
I am a Christian believer, granted by no means a perfect Christian but, it is my born unto religion and, one I still believe in no matter how hard people try to scoff at it.
I may come on here and put you all down negatively, I even sit here and argue with you all but, I do not make a mockery of your personal religious beliefs, especially on a forum for the whole forum public to view.
This alone is, perfect reason to distrust you all, to totally see you all as nothing but a negativity and, yet some of you try and cover up for, the very people who most make you all come off as what people are labeling you as!
You can't come of smelling like roses, when people associated with you, bury you in piles of raw manure and, expect it not to leave a foul taste in people's mouths!
Well, for starter's the lack of respect some of you all show towards people like myself so, someone has to stand up against it, even if it is only for myself.
2nd, I take a huge offense regarding some of the comments related to my religious beliefs and, if you think I am kidding, you would be dead wrong.
In fact, it would be nice if a civil suite could be brought up against them and, no not one for money but, maybe some good old fashioned community service, as a fitting punishment to show some humility to those, who would go around putting down other's religious beliefs!
Than maybe you all can truly say, you have helped your community!
These 2, would be my top reasons for doing so if, you must know!
I am a Christian believer, granted by no means a perfect Christian but, it is my born unto religion and, one I still believe in no matter how hard people try to scoff at it.
I may come on here and put you all down negatively, I even sit here and argue with you all but, I do not make a mockery of your personal religious beliefs, especially on a forum for the whole forum public to view.
This alone is, perfect reason to distrust you all, to totally see you all as nothing but a negativity and, yet some of you try and cover up for, the very people who most make you all come off as what people are labeling you as!
First you haven't earned any respect among us, or anyone else for that matter. Your actions on this forum show you to be a pathetic troll who really does not have the slightest clue about how to play this game, nor the intellect needed to better yourself.
Second as for your religion that you blathered on about so much, don't really give a **** to be honest. You can believe in whatever being up in the sky that will judge you or tell you how to live your life, not my problem and not sure why you feel the need to blather on about it.
Those of us in the DPS community are willing to help those with some level of intelligence that actually want to better themselves, neither of which is true for you.
So why don't you practice what you preach? Millions of Christians have been tortured or have died for their faith, and are still dying every day. A bit of forum banter is nothing.
In your own Holy Book it tells you that you will be persecuted in this life for your faith. Flat out, see Paul's 2nd letter to Timothy. Now Paul. There's a fascinating guy. He put people like you who professed belief to the sword, before a journey to Syria changed him forever.
I truly doubt you even know what being a Christian means.
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Well, for a start, one only needs to review this thread to see your standard operating procedure is to ignore what people actually post and go after what you think (or perhaps wish) they posted.
Second, also seen here, when someone points out where you are wrong you just ignore it. For example, your constant claiming 15-20k is some sort of impossible target that only specific ships built specific ways could do it, when in fact every T5 in STO can do that.
Lastly, all someone needs do is search for you on the subject of A2B.
That screams total arrogance, along with demonstrating a clear head in sand moment. "And, yes even I" wrote as if you are some sort of example of virtue.
And I do acknowledge my faults. I just ensure I need to as little as possible.
No worries. I don't mind people who don't want to do DPS, hell, I mostly run 10k or so on a character* who could easily double to triple it if I could be bothered to put in even the slightest bit of effort - The problem is STO PvE is now designed purely around it, so I don't want to anymore...
I wouldn't mind if it was actually more difficult - Give NPCs an overhaul and decent scripting and we could make them outperform over 90% of players in their own builds - but instead we just get stacks of Hit points as if it is anything more than tedious.
And you could STILL do it in a T1 or T2 if it wasn't for the timer! That is the daft bit, it isn't any more difficult, it is just more tedious and takes longer...
* Its silly isn't it, doing that little.
Funny, I do believe this is the first time, I have ever seen you admit a fault, otherwise it is utter bragging, arrogance, with the occasional advise to fill in some of the rest.
And, I never said 15-20k is some impossible number to accomplish nor, did I state that no tier5 ship couldn't accomplish this task.
What was stated, was that not every single build and, not every single piece of gear possibly obtained on those builds will net you that easy 15k-20k nor, will every single useable boff skill and, same goes for every single doff able to be used.
My information is not incorrect, in stating that it takes a fairly narrow list of overall useable skills/gear/etc. to hit that mark without effort and, even narrower when going to the great beyond of the 50-80k ranges.
As for my old post about aux2batt, that has no relevance with this thread nor, even our argument.
I made my point of view clear about that subject regarding the skill w/doffs, to try and bring it up now, shows you have little kindle for your fire to burn with so, instead you are settling for straw.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
my Narcine build is here: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1267031
my Benthan is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un1jS1N5ixY
...and i would need to know more about your skills, traits, builds, flight style before i could giveyou any advice.
I have joined many cap'n hold matches in progress only to see 4 or 5 DPS channel scimitars spawn camping helpless pugs trying to farm dailys, it is a bad group. They have to do that because they min max so much their scims can't survive in pvp when not camping. I try to talk to some and they make excuses like the game is so easy and boring now so nothing to do.
Why should a team in PVP do something that does not make them survive? I thought survival better then the other team was the goal in PVP, so you adapt the team strategy to do so. Camping is possible because Cryptic designed PvP to allow it.
Well those few bad apples, can sour an entire batch of cider so to speak!
You only further the fire to flame up, like a billow does for a metal smith.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
I witnessed this too and it really just amounts to straight up trolling/griefing by these guys. Reminds me of when the goon squad kids / dental kids where trolling the queues daily calling everyone scrubs and telling everyone to get good. Whatever.
It just makes you wonder how old these people are that they need to go around calling people scrubs and posting silly internet articles on scrubbery to reinforce their egos...
Lol, I'd love to spawn and kick off the Voth Shield followed by FBP3, see how they like camping then. Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of Cap'N Hold.
Most DPS builds pretty much suck in the PvP world.
Lol, yeah the sad part is, my deemed sad and pathetic low scrub dps builds, are perfectly viable in pvp, none - very little changes ever.
And I can queue up, go in, kick some butts.
Of course I take my share of butt handing to me as well but, I tend to keep a higher K:D ratio than butt hurting.
I only play it once in a while, just for some quick fun and rewarded dilithium & EC's, plus it helps other's looking to do the same, than so be it.
My only real quam, with the whole PVP gameplay is, the absurd level of dps we inflict on each other and, that annoying red box popping up when we are to high on the map.
Cryptic, I don't need some freaking red box constantly pestering me, telling me I am too high. I already know this!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Given your reading ability, I am entirely unsurprised. You've never managed to read my posts right before after all.
No, you just chose to read it as such.
Actually, you have. Repeatedly.
No, what you said was not that, don't try and ret-con it to make yourself look better. You have constantly been going off on one saying 15k and above required special ships, special equipment, special boff powers, special doffs and how DPSers say you have to use these items and these items alone, and every time someone proves you wrong.
Unless your starting point is a Galaxy Retrofit or similar Lt. Tac/2 tac console ship, 15k is pretty easy. If I was to finish doffing B'Tran I could get my 10k with next to no effort Vulcan into a 15k next to no effort Vulcan. Hell, if I could be bothered, I could have her doing 30k DPS in just 2 weeks time...
Well of course it would require that to do 50k and beyond. To do 50k is something very few players can do, and very few ships can do.
No, the A2B threads are significant, because you are doing what you did then, all over again - spouting off about a topic you don't understand. And more importantly, don't want to understand. Your point of view was wrong, and built entirely on misunderstanding and wilful ignorance, same as you are doing here.
Well of course they would. Bringing a 50k DPS PvE build to PvP is like bringing an F1 car to a World Rally Championship gravel or snow stage - sure, an F1 car is PDQ on a track (and if your spine can cope with the jarring, and your eyes with the blur as the bumps strike a very, very stiff suspension system and shake you around a lot, on a road) but on a rally stage it would be totally useless.
I witnessed it at least 4 times over the past few months. really sad that rather then build for pvp and sacrifice some of their precious DPS or just stick to pve they go that route instead.
Well, start digging up this so called condescending posts, because so far you haven't done any better at proving a point, than myself have!
tell you what, build me a easy 15k mirror mogai heavy warbird, with no fleet gear and only rare doffs 5 of them to be exact.
I will try it out in a pug, than see if it even comes slightly close and, don't give me it's not a tier5 vessel TRIBBLE neither, because it technically is a tier5, only it is a tier5 sub-admiral, heck you can even go for the actual tier5 mogai retro if you see fit, as I have both.
No fleet version so, sorry cannot use that one as the base ship and, don't worry about my piloting skills, they are more than adequate.
Let's see if it is just so easy with any tier5 ship, on a very narrow shoe string budget like many claim.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
No. Build it yourself since you already have the knowledge and expertise (or so you claim).
it's time to nut up because:
1. you claim to not care about DPS and the DPS League, yet you still seem to obsessively post in any thread about DPS and the DPS League.
2. you claim to already know how to do high DPS yet are asking other to make builds for you so you could test them.
Looking forward to seeing the mental gymnastics required to back yourself out of this one.
Done it already but, I want you all to build one for me, seeing how you all are so willing to help the so called community!
Oh, and see if a torpedo can be factored in to it, because I know how much you all love torpedoes. :rolleyes:
Mind you, mine wasn't pug tested and, Shadowwraith approved so to speak, as I prefer pugging dps #'s to back claims, over pre-made feeding.
Put some of that so called community aid to work, otherwise stuff your money where the sun doesn't shine!
Normally, my lazy pug dps is only in the 10k normalized region and, that is with a single torpedo mounted!
This is where I am usually the happiest.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
sure sure. i believe that evasion.
so let me ask you again, since you don't care about DPS and the DPS league; why are you still posting here? it seems to me you are more obsessed about DPS than anyone in the DPS League by the near stalking behavior you are exhibiting.
Remember in another post you stated that you where just posting to incite, troll and raise your post count? You got your wrist slapped by a mod for doing so but apparently you haven't learned and are back to the same MO.
If you keep insisting that you don't care yet obsessively continue to post, someone might report you again.
why would i make a theory DPS build for someone who doesn't care about DPS and constantly trolls me?
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Why - you will only deny it. Just like you always do, its why I haven't bothered already. You are a wilful troll, and I treat you as such. I humour you when it amuses me to do so - you prove nothing except your own failings on every post.
This latest spat with sarcasm only reinforces it. You, not trolling? Don't make us laugh.
What are you trying to accomplish?
I say this with sincerity. Picture in your mind the perfect scenario where you get what you want from him and explain it to me and everyone else who is reading this. Hate is a strong emotion to feel for someone you've never met and have practically no connection to.
The guys in the dps channels are good people, i've been with the community a while now and they've helped me to up my game and i've seen many others follow the same path as i have taken.
Currently i have one of the top 10 dps scores, and until recently i wouldn't have believed it possible. If people wanna continue to cry about elitism, then let them, if they want the help you're offering, and in turn that i offer, they know where to go to find it.
The thing you gotta remember about these folk, is they're grown ups, not just kids who've figured out the game and troll over everyone. The won't take TRIBBLE from people and you gotta listen if you want their help. If they know something to be fact, there's no point discussing it and trying to tell them you think they're wrong, when, with DPS numbers, they are factual. Torps sucking for example, it is quite possible to build a torp boat that can handle the content in this game, but, if you want the biggest numbers, beams are proven to be the way to go.
Just if you wanna learn to get higher dps, then give these guys a chance, if not, go do whatever it is you wanna do instead.
I reserve the right to have a completely different standpoint depending on my mood.
It's not so much as the person to be hated, it is the way the person comes off portraying themselves, that deserves the distaste for them!
Ok, for once one of you actually made me laugh, even if you were not trying to.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
The daft bit is it is pretty much that simple...
Now this kind of post would be better suited as having you for their PR guy but, what you say today, will undoubtedly be made to be looked past when the so called, sour apples get their snide remarks in and, therefore completely ruining what good intention you had displayed in the first place.
I attack you all, because some or, most of your group seems it is a necessity, to make you all come off as what people label you as and, than you wonder why you get such negative remarks regarding you all as such.
You can't come of smelling like roses, when people associated with you, bury you in piles of raw manure and, expect it not to leave a foul taste in people's mouths!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Ok I can understand that, but it doesn't answer the why though, if someone pisses me off and it's easy to ignore them (it's dead simple on a forum lets be honest) then I will.
So you must have a reason and since I can see more people coming to the defense Sarcasmdetector than opposing him I'm struggling to to figure out what that actually might be. I'm sure it makes sense in your head but I find it always helps to try and explain to other people.
You still have not answered my question. So again, what do you gain from all your unfriendlyness? This not the only topic in which you show unfrienlyness.
If you want to be unfriendly fine, you are free to do as you like, but a bit strange in my opinion if someone mostly only writes unfriendly posts in the STO topics.
Well, for starter's the lack of respect some of you all show towards people like myself so, someone has to stand up against it, even if it is only for myself.
2nd, I take a huge offense regarding some of the comments related to my religious beliefs and, if you think I am kidding, you would be dead wrong.
In fact, it would be nice if a civil suite could be brought up against them and, no not one for money but, maybe some good old fashioned community service, as a fitting punishment to show some humility to those, who would go around putting down other's religious beliefs!
Than maybe you all can truly say, you have helped your community!
These 2, would be my top reasons for doing so if, you must know!
I am a Christian believer, granted by no means a perfect Christian but, it is my born unto religion and, one I still believe in no matter how hard people try to scoff at it.
I may come on here and put you all down negatively, I even sit here and argue with you all but, I do not make a mockery of your personal religious beliefs, especially on a forum for the whole forum public to view.
This alone is, perfect reason to distrust you all, to totally see you all as nothing but a negativity and, yet some of you try and cover up for, the very people who most make you all come off as what people are labeling you as!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
HAHA!, Well said.
First you haven't earned any respect among us, or anyone else for that matter. Your actions on this forum show you to be a pathetic troll who really does not have the slightest clue about how to play this game, nor the intellect needed to better yourself.
Second as for your religion that you blathered on about so much, don't really give a **** to be honest. You can believe in whatever being up in the sky that will judge you or tell you how to live your life, not my problem and not sure why you feel the need to blather on about it.
Those of us in the DPS community are willing to help those with some level of intelligence that actually want to better themselves, neither of which is true for you.
In your own Holy Book it tells you that you will be persecuted in this life for your faith. Flat out, see Paul's 2nd letter to Timothy. Now Paul. There's a fascinating guy. He put people like you who professed belief to the sword, before a journey to Syria changed him forever.
I truly doubt you even know what being a Christian means.