I think this is silly. People put a lot of effort into their Heroic raid gear in WoW, yet with each expansion they gleefully leave that work behind and plunge into the next 10 levels of content, quest greens and all.
I think it IS time for a reset! Leave behind all the madness and start fresh with a new, unabashedly more powerful tier.
It's not like people don't fly T3 and T4 ships in T5 content currently anyway for more of a challenge. It's not impossible.
My biggest concern is we are getting T6 ships, but are we getting T6 content? Or T6 versions of current content?
Also, lets do the math, 7 to 10 new ships? That's not nearly enough. That's just about one choice per role per faction. (Sci, Tac, Engi, x3 factions = 9 plus what, a random carrier or BoP?). That's pretty poor.
I would vote for no dev time spent developing some 'upgrade' system for current ships, tack a few months onto release date, and spend time developing two or three options per role, per faction.
while i do agree with them needed more time i am hoping that their new ships are some what similar to the dyson style of being able to have the ships be more then just one style like the dyson science can also be a tactical which for me personally i loved cause i may be a science officer but i play mine like a tank cause that is what i like doing but is hard to even do when ships really don't fit us being diverse ,voyager was originally a science ship but she was also designed to fight like a warship if needed as she was being constantly upgraded to i would love more ships with this capability as well as i have read that other people have said it would be nice to have a way to upgrade lower tier ships up to a higher tier as it would make for a bigger diversity
I only wish there will be an update that instead buying new powerful ships, will allow to upgrade our old ships to tier 6 ones or any tier we want. That will be the complete solution to any concern. Im really tired of levels and levels everywhere. Instead, i want to pick my old saber and upgrade their systems, maybe a little design change here and there to accomodate another forward weapon slot, some structural changes to allow the use of another console slot, for example. Thats the only thing i want, not just new ships every time. Its really ridiculous. Because this is a strategy that will never ends, and eventually players will ask emselves wth are they doing and what is the point on keep doing the same day after day just to wait an expansion that will give him just more levels of everything to do the same over and over again. What about something original and different cryptic?? like as i said, the opportunity to upgrade our old ships?? is that ever will happen??
I have a question. Since there was never a T5 Connie and that was a huge disappointment to a lot of players. Will there be a T6 Connie, hopefully with a MU skin?
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I have a question. Since there was never a T5 Connie and that was a huge disappointment to a lot of players. Will there be a T6 Connie, hopefully with a MU skin?
Cyptic has officially stated many times that CBS (who owns the rights to the ship) will not allow an endgame level constitution class of any kind, that means no T6 connie either, unless CBS can stop being jerks about it.
If you were trying to be funny, I'm sorry. A T5 connie is a touchy subject for some of us and the mere mention of it can set us off.
Edit: And to get their point across that we will never get a T5 connie, moderators have taking to deleting any new T5 connie threads from now on because they are sick of us asking about it and have already given us an answer that so far hasn't been changed. (They're also deleting any new "doom, the game is dying" type of threads also)
I think Cryptic is starting to resent us for wanting a T5 connie in the game. Sadly it isn't up to them to give us one and I'm sure some of them wish they could.
I don't care if we have to pay, but the old ships need to have a way to become truly tier 6, not just competitive.
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Although I do care if we have to pay. I bought A tier 5 because in my opinion, it was the best in the game for what I wanted to do and is top of the line. A couple months down the road and now it's just middl'n? Better not be!
Cyptic has officially stated many times that CBS (who owns the rights to the ship) will not allow an endgame level constitution class of any kind, that means no T6 connie either, unless CBS can stop being jerks about it.
If you were trying to be funny, I'm sorry. A T5 connie is a touchy subject for some of us and the mere mention of it can set us off.
Edit: And to get their point across that we will never get a T5 connie, moderators have taking to deleting any new T5 connie threads from now on because they are sick of us asking about it and have already given us an answer that so far hasn't been changed. (They're also deleting any new "doom, the game is dying" type of threads also)
I think Cryptic is starting to resent us for wanting a T5 connie in the game. Sadly it isn't up to them to give us one and I'm sure some of them wish they could.
I wasn't asking about a T5 Connie. I was asking about a T6 Connie. I haven't seen any proof of CBS stating ihey will not allow it. When you look at the Ambassador taking 3 years to get into the game, that was based on a dev not liking the ship. We have the clunky and ancient Excelsior which is definitely not one of my favorite ships at T5 so why not an Exeter or a Constitution? Just because some people don't like a particular ship doesn't mean they shouldn't have it to play at what ever level they wish. STO is a game that has lost sight of what Star Trek is all about so who cares if people want to fly around in a T6 Connie or not? More ships are always welcome in my opinion, even if they are not ships I like or want to see in this game.
With the actual Intrepid bridge and the Intrepid being redone. Will the Prometheus get the same treatment?
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Sooo... I haven't read all 30 pages past the first one but I was wondering if the NPCs will continue with the same AI which is a joke unless they have millions of hitpoints and can two-shot you or is someone thinking of a way to make them more competitive distributing shields and using some more abilities past the annoying ones they use when they first "march in".
I've been away for more than half a year, so it would be nice to know if that has/is being planned to change.
With all excitement circulating around our new upcoming expansion, Executive Producer, Stephen D'Angelo speaks about the new tier of ships and what it means for Captains in the coming weeks!
I'm going to ask this once. WHAT EXCITEMENT!? all I see is RAGE! if everything I have read comes to past this will be the WORST patch in the games history and the start of the games death spiral. you have several lifers, some since beta that our quiting over what they see.
I'm going to ask this once. WHAT EXCITEMENT!? all I see is RAGE! if everything I have read comes to past this will be the WORST patch in the games history and the start of the games death spiral. you have several lifers, some since beta that our quiting over what they see.
yeah, I've heard that about every major update. what makes this one special?
And I've seen more excited people than angry people here...
yeah, I've heard that about every major update. what makes this one special?
And I've seen more excited people than angry people here...
Um have you SEEN the T5 upgrade thread? you have several lifers either quiting or not pay any additional money for a zen boost. None of my fleet are happy because most of our work on our base now means SQUAT. Heck the two heads of our fleet both lifers looked down their ship list and only one ship of theirs gets a free upgrade which won't could for much and several of their ships aren't being upgraded at all. About half my fleet is Mirror and they are getting jack. Sure they might have some good mission but in comparison to the UGLY T6 ship designs, the big TRIBBLE you to the T5 ships and the Fleets. yeah this is a disaster coming but they still have a month to not do this.
Our request are being ignored, most don't have an issue paying out $5 for a full upgrade. I'm voting with my wallet, strongly wondering if my love for this game has been bested by its obvious greed.
To the Devs, don't throw away our hard work and your own naturally. People will still purchase your new ships even if we could fully upgrade our current shipyard. Your lockboxes still sell every time do they not?
We feel like we're getting bottlenecked here and many players are getting choked out.
Um have you SEEN the T5 upgrade thread? you have several lifers either quiting or not pay any additional money for a zen boost. None of my fleet are happy because most of our work on our base now means SQUAT. Heck the two heads of our fleet both lifers looked down their ship list and only one ship of theirs gets a free upgrade which won't could for much and several of their ships aren't being upgraded at all. About half my fleet is Mirror and they are getting jack. Sure they might have some good mission but in comparison to the UGLY T6 ship designs, the big TRIBBLE you to the T5 ships and the Fleets. yeah this is a disaster coming but they still have a month to not do this.
I agree with you there especially about the fleet ships with my fed fleet we never hit Tier V and are not to bothered not spending on fleet ships but my rom kdf fleet have spent thousands and I even bought the fleet B'rel and it was pointless knowing now I will have to pay again.I only hope they do a Tier 6 B'rel and that will truly make me want to rebuy it for the battle cloak but if I will or not is another question.
As for Mirror ships getting jack I am furious as I use a star cruiser only to realise it will be obsolete next season and not getting a free upgrade. I will give x2 a try but i'm not sure if this game will be something I will stay with. Cryptic has got to greedy and all my work gets nerfed or obsolete a few seasons down the line. So makes this feel like the job I am currently in and dont want that in my spare time as well
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Hmmm...I wonder of they are working a way to upgrade to full T6
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Hmmm...I wonder of they are working a way to upgrade to full T6
It would no doubt be months of work to add scaling HP and a Intel seat to all existing tier 5 ships, crating a special trait for each ship could take up a year worth of work.
I'm sorry to people who I, in the past, insulted, annoyed, etc.
I think it will be ok.
I see many LIfes complaining as if they have special rights being a Lifer?
The way i see it Lifers kill this game, you are NOT paying anymore because you are beyond what you would have paid if you monthly subbed, no income there from you guys/girls.
Then you get the free Zen every month, meaning you dont have to pay for nothing in the C-Store, save up some ZEN en BANG , buy that ship in the C-Store for free.
And now after 4 years a major upgrade is coming and you expect it all for free because you are a lifer?
Well gues what, it almost is!, use your saved ZEN to buy the ships , or upgrade.
Or just fly the old ships you like, you liked them yesterday, they still be the same tomorrow!
Just be glad that they work to make something, what would a lifer be with no game at all?
I think it will be ok.
I see many LIfes complaining as if they have special rights being a Lifer?
The way i see it Lifers kill this game, you are NOT paying anymore because you are beyond what you would have paid if you monthly subbed, no income there from you guys/girls.
Then you get the free Zen every month, meaning you dont have to pay for nothing in the C-Store, save up some ZEN en BANG , buy that ship in the C-Store for free.
And now after 4 years a major upgrade is coming and you expect it all for free because you are a lifer?
Well gues what, it almost is!, use your saved ZEN to buy the ships , or upgrade.
Or just fly the old ships you like, you liked them yesterday, they still be the same tomorrow!
Just be glad that they work to make something, what would a lifer be with no game at all?
Dont worry, be Happy
Well said op. No I am not a lifer but I am a gold/veteran have been since dec. 2010 And I can tell you this game doe's not owe me anything I pay the 14.99 a month for my entertainment and thats what I get.
I am thinking about retiring my gold membership depends on what I see as of today sorry but that ability to end projects for a set price just rubs me the wrong way.
But in any case this game doe's not owe me any more rewards then what it has already givin me.
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while i do agree with them needed more time i am hoping that their new ships are some what similar to the dyson style of being able to have the ships be more then just one style like the dyson science can also be a tactical which for me personally i loved cause i may be a science officer but i play mine like a tank cause that is what i like doing but is hard to even do when ships really don't fit us being diverse ,voyager was originally a science ship but she was also designed to fight like a warship if needed as she was being constantly upgraded to i would love more ships with this capability as well as i have read that other people have said it would be nice to have a way to upgrade lower tier ships up to a higher tier as it would make for a bigger diversity
Pitchfork sales might be down; but, hype in the new Star Citizen might be increasing.
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Cyptic has officially stated many times that CBS (who owns the rights to the ship) will not allow an endgame level constitution class of any kind, that means no T6 connie either, unless CBS can stop being jerks about it.
If you were trying to be funny, I'm sorry. A T5 connie is a touchy subject for some of us and the mere mention of it can set us off.
Edit: And to get their point across that we will never get a T5 connie, moderators have taking to deleting any new T5 connie threads from now on because they are sick of us asking about it and have already given us an answer that so far hasn't been changed. (They're also deleting any new "doom, the game is dying" type of threads also)
I think Cryptic is starting to resent us for wanting a T5 connie in the game. Sadly it isn't up to them to give us one and I'm sure some of them wish they could.
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Although I do care if we have to pay. I bought A tier 5 because in my opinion, it was the best in the game for what I wanted to do and is top of the line. A couple months down the road and now it's just middl'n? Better not be!
I wasn't asking about a T5 Connie. I was asking about a T6 Connie. I haven't seen any proof of CBS stating ihey will not allow it. When you look at the Ambassador taking 3 years to get into the game, that was based on a dev not liking the ship. We have the clunky and ancient Excelsior which is definitely not one of my favorite ships at T5 so why not an Exeter or a Constitution? Just because some people don't like a particular ship doesn't mean they shouldn't have it to play at what ever level they wish. STO is a game that has lost sight of what Star Trek is all about so who cares if people want to fly around in a T6 Connie or not? More ships are always welcome in my opinion, even if they are not ships I like or want to see in this game.
With the actual Intrepid bridge and the Intrepid being redone. Will the Prometheus get the same treatment?
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the original Prometheus bridge is a little too white ... the already existing 3 bridges for Prometheus are just fine...at least for me.
example http://techstepman.deviantart.com/art/red-alert-175123952?q=sort%3Atime%20gallery%3Atechstepman&qo=123
the nacelles on that fed tier 6 looked really bad. I liked the romulan and the Klingon one though....just saying...
My biggest problem about delta rising is that I have to find where I put those dvds and rewatch the voyger series cause I don't remember much.
I've been away for more than half a year, so it would be nice to know if that has/is being planned to change.
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I'm going to ask this once. WHAT EXCITEMENT!? all I see is RAGE! if everything I have read comes to past this will be the WORST patch in the games history and the start of the games death spiral. you have several lifers, some since beta that our quiting over what they see.
And I've seen more excited people than angry people here...
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Um have you SEEN the T5 upgrade thread? you have several lifers either quiting or not pay any additional money for a zen boost. None of my fleet are happy because most of our work on our base now means SQUAT. Heck the two heads of our fleet both lifers looked down their ship list and only one ship of theirs gets a free upgrade which won't could for much and several of their ships aren't being upgraded at all. About half my fleet is Mirror and they are getting jack. Sure they might have some good mission but in comparison to the UGLY T6 ship designs, the big TRIBBLE you to the T5 ships and the Fleets. yeah this is a disaster coming but they still have a month to not do this.
To the Devs, don't throw away our hard work and your own naturally. People will still purchase your new ships even if we could fully upgrade our current shipyard. Your lockboxes still sell every time do they not?
We feel like we're getting bottlenecked here and many players are getting choked out.
Torch sales remain static...;)
Not for long.
We're saving up to buy more.
I agree with you there especially about the fleet ships with my fed fleet we never hit Tier V and are not to bothered not spending on fleet ships but my rom kdf fleet have spent thousands and I even bought the fleet B'rel and it was pointless knowing now I will have to pay again.I only hope they do a Tier 6 B'rel and that will truly make me want to rebuy it for the battle cloak but if I will or not is another question.
As for Mirror ships getting jack I am furious as I use a star cruiser only to realise it will be obsolete next season and not getting a free upgrade. I will give x2 a try but i'm not sure if this game will be something I will stay with. Cryptic has got to greedy and all my work gets nerfed or obsolete a few seasons down the line. So makes this feel like the job I am currently in and dont want that in my spare time as well
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Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
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It would no doubt be months of work to add scaling HP and a Intel seat to all existing tier 5 ships, crating a special trait for each ship could take up a year worth of work.
I'm sorry to people who I, in the past, insulted, annoyed, etc.
I see many LIfes complaining as if they have special rights being a Lifer?
The way i see it Lifers kill this game, you are NOT paying anymore because you are beyond what you would have paid if you monthly subbed, no income there from you guys/girls.
Then you get the free Zen every month, meaning you dont have to pay for nothing in the C-Store, save up some ZEN en BANG , buy that ship in the C-Store for free.
And now after 4 years a major upgrade is coming and you expect it all for free because you are a lifer?
Well gues what, it almost is!, use your saved ZEN to buy the ships , or upgrade.
Or just fly the old ships you like, you liked them yesterday, they still be the same tomorrow!
Just be glad that they work to make something, what would a lifer be with no game at all?
Dont worry, be Happy
Well said op. No I am not a lifer but I am a gold/veteran have been since dec. 2010 And I can tell you this game doe's not owe me anything I pay the 14.99 a month for my entertainment and thats what I get.
I am thinking about retiring my gold membership depends on what I see as of today sorry but that ability to end projects for a set price just rubs me the wrong way.
But in any case this game doe's not owe me any more rewards then what it has already givin me.
Hint: Turn off 'on demand patching' in the launcher.
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