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Please use this thread to post all feedback and bugs found in the new Upgrade System.
Upgrade System
Upgrade System
- The upgrade system allows you to upgrade your items on your ship and your crew.
- Access the Upgrade System by choosing the option when right clicking on an item or, click the Upgrade button on the bottom left of the Inventory window.
- For more information, please read the Upgrade System Blog at: http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7005783
- This system is not in a final state.
- This includes some items which cannot be upgraded, text, and icons.
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(I am only half joking here; it would be kind of cool if I could upgrade it from giving me "+1.5 damage resistance for 3,600 seconds" to something like "+3 damage resistance for 6,400 seconds.")
*Please allow us to fabricate Tech Upgrades in bulk like we can with components. (Even if only up to 5 at a time.) I realize that we already get 3 on a crit but seriously, with the number of these that are required to take ONE item up just ONE level, this more than anything else in the game needs to ability to fabricate in bulk. Why do you hate us? We can't do anything in bulk in this game. The UI never allows for it. Doff contribution to starbase? Nope, one at a time. Slotting Traits? One at a time. Buying from bartenders? One at a time. Buying commodities? 100 at a time is a pithy amount and you know it. Deleting mail? One at a time. The amount of clicking needed to do anything in this game in bulk is gobsmackingly stupid, especially in the R&D UI.
*The "Start Task" button for fabricating "Improved Beam Weapons Tech Upgrades" is incredibly laggy. I select the project and it takes upwards of 60 seconds for the button to go from grayed out to ready to click. I don't know if this is normal or just something to do with the Tribble shard. This seems to be much worse in a populated zone like ESD but almost goes away entirely in an empty zone. I can force my way around this issue by changing which Doff is slotted into the R&D project or changing the number of items to be crafted (for those projects that allow multiples); that will immediately cause the Start Task button to light up.
*Can't upgrade any Nanopulse Lirpa or Bat'leth (I have all 6). If I right click to upgrade it, it doesn't convert into a Mk XII. It opens the upgrade UI and says "Item is already fully upgraded" while staying at ∞.
Other items that I cannot upgrade:
*When I right click on my old [Jem'Hadar Armor Mk XI] it changed the portrait icon.
https://i.imgur.com/YlizffC.jpg
*The icon for my [Plasma Piercing Beam Rifle Mk XI [CrtH] [Dmg] [DoT3]] changed to the wrong icon when I upgraded it.
https://i.imgur.com/U586z0Y.jpg
(p.s. When are these being re-added to the dilithium store or crafting or reputation so that I can buy more of them for my other characters?)
*The upgrade for [Prototype Gravitic Impulse Engines Mk XI] is broken. I tried to upgrade it and it turned into a vanilla [Impulse Engines Mk XI]
*What happens to lockbox consoles like [Console - Universal - Fluidic Phase Decoupler] or [Console - Universal - Spatial Charge Launcher]? The recent blog mentioned C-Store consoles only, and these consoles have not been upgraded to Epic rarity.
Joined January 2009
Also no KITS or KIT MODULES can be upgraded
EDIT: Items that do not have an option to upgrade when clicked:
Kit Mods
Kit Frames
Nausicaan Swords
Transphasic Cluster Torpedo Mk XIII [Acc] [Dmg]
Synchronic Proton Distortion Prototype Assault Rifle
Federation Type 2 Phaser Mk XI
Federation Type 3 Phaser Rifle Mk XI
CRM 200
Breen Transphasic Cluster Torpedo
Federation Type 1 Phaser
I've noticed a lot of 'special' items from missions like the TOS style ground phasers that are rare quality do not have an upgrade option, I will add to the list as I find more.
So do:
Enjoy.
TRIBBLE Hydra! Hail Janeway!
* TR-116A (preorder rifle)
* Triolic pattern enhancer
* All hangar pets
* All kits and kit modules
* Epic (Gold) quality starship consoles such as Saucer Separation, MVAM, or the Defiant's Cloaking Device -- note that this does NOT include starship weapons such as the Defiant's quad cannons
Other items that won't be upgradeable include "Starter" items, such as the Phaser pistol you get in the tutorial, and any Common quality weapons that come with ships (For example, a Mk X phaser array that comes by default on a Tier 5 ship). These items will never be upgradeable.
Pretty much everything else should be, so keep these reports coming, these are extremely useful to us.
Star Trek Online Lead Programmer
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
I am VERY displeased by this. There are no XII modules in circulation for the vast majority of old kit modules, only lockbox or reputation modules. I want an [Assault Kit Module - Motion Accelerator Mk XII] but the best one that I can possibly get in the game is an [Assault Kit Module - Motion Accelerator Mk XII] from an old fleet kit turn-in.
-edit- Unless this is coming in a future update (i.e. one that allows crafting of Kit modules), in which case nevermind But if there is no future update for this, then yes, I am very angry about this.
Joined January 2009
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I brought up the alarm on some of these when all the items got free upgrades in Holodeck. Seems no one paid attention.
Players keep checking absolutely everything. No item must be left unchecked.
Rep gear should be upgraded through the rep system, not some convoluted concoction designed to get you to use the R&D system for the "best" upgrades.
In order to get the highest upgrade for your high mark items, you have to have high R&D skill in that area. That requires using and "mastering" the R&D system, which makes the whole upgrade system a fail.
Spin it anyway you like, proclaim anything you like, the Dev Blog speaks volumes and gives the truth in this situation.
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
So while the Wide Angle Quantum Torpedo Launcher definitely cannot be upgraded at the moment (at level 50), strangely enough Spiral Wave Disruptors can. Is there some sort of criteria as to which items are impacted by this rule?
I would think that if $$$ weapons like the Spirals can be upgraded immediately, then so should anything else people shelled our real cash for (WAQ, Lobi items, etc.)
No R&D skill is required for your character to apply a Tech Upgrade to an item.
It's a bug, I'll be updating that shortly.
* TR-116A (preorder rifle) (Does this affect other preorders? Chomodynamic armor? Defense turret? Phaser Satellite?)
* All hangar pets
* All kits and kit modules
*Starter gear
*Certain ∞ gear? (also can we get a separate list for which of these items can't be upgraded until 60?)
I noticed that and I'm quite happy that R&D skill is only needed to fabricate the upgrade items, not to apply them.
Joined January 2009
How many kits and how much dilithium would be required to upgrade a Mk XII Very Rare beam array for example?
I managed to get it up to a MK XIV Legendary after a few minutes, but that initial drop seemed like a bug.
Also, the 700 dil per application of each tech upgrade is way too high.
I had well over 400k in dil and managed to eat right through all of it in about 10 minutes.
On just one item.
Recommend turning the Dilithium cost into a single time cost of 8000 dil per upgrade level (meaning each time the counter hits 100%), that way there the player is still able to make progress on upgrading this gear rather than be completely bankrupt after only 10 minutes of playing this system.
XII:
http://i.imgur.com/M5Z9YKI.png
XIV:
http://i.imgur.com/fLZ6yjb.png
The physical, kinetic, and energy damage mods are missing in the description and reflect on my character stats as well.
It will keep its existing mods, like [Acc]x2 in your example, and then it will gain additional [mods] when its rarity increases.
Joined January 2009
Thank you for this. Also, on the subject of Spiral Wave Disruptors, their DPS seems to be exceptionally high after conversion to Mk 12 compared to similar weapons. Is this intentional or a bug?
The reordering of mods there might be partly to blame, since all mods usually follow a very specific order. Changing that order might have made the underlying code not like it.
https://i.imgur.com/U586z0Y.jpg
p.s. When are these being re-added to the dilithium store or crafting or reputation so that I can buy more of them for my other characters?
Joined January 2009
Ex: Some of the universal consoles such as the lobi store ones can use any upgrade item from any class but what item do you need to use to get the Counter Command Universal Console to upgrade?
Edit: Aegis set cant be upgraded.
Based on your images, the [Mods] look to have upgraded correctly, but the base Damage Resistance Magnitude provided for your armor type (Recoil Compensating) has been lost in the Mk XIV image.