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"We are working on a LOT of ships for the future Expansion" (Al Rivera)

spacebaronlinespacebaronline Member Posts: 1,103 Arc User
That is a quote(well condensed) from Al Rivera's last STOked radio interview.

So what can this mean for expansion 2??

Does it mean a brand new faction(even though they said no new faction)?

Are they updating all the ships to T6 level?

There are lots of interesting comments made by him:

'why we are not doing any current ships - because we are working on all these ships for the expansion'

'We have so many ships to work on for the expansion, we would have to do updates twice'


http://youtu.be/dYsw_GYP8Ok?t=1h23m12s

So will we get the Level 60 cap increase, ship upgrades, and a new Faction for Expansion 2?

Cardassian Faction? How about a liberated Borg Faction?

"A lotttttt of ships" - So Mr Rivera??? What exactly does that mean? Any comments?
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited July 2014
    Highly doubt there will be a new faction... X2 is going to the Delta Quadrant, so adding a Cardassian faction would be odd timing (seems more likely for the Gamma Quadrant). I doubt even more that they would EVER add a Lib-Borg faction, since this is a large draw for LTS-ers.

    As for T6 ships, I say no... it's possible, but a ton of people on here say it won't happen (plus, I believe the T6 ship idea was shot down by the devs, at one point).

    So, what ships will be available? My guesses:
    Kazon ships (my hope for KDFers... fighter, cruiser, shuttle... maybe just a lock box)
    Krenim ships (my bet for the next lock box!)
    Vidian ships (rolled into Rom faction?)
    Dauntless-class
    Constellation-class
    Admiral Janeway's shuttle
    remastered Vesta
    remastered Intrepid
    remastered Nebula
    remastered Negh'Var

    And, my hope is that all factions will each get a few new 2410 ships. The Roms want a carrier, so that would make sense.
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  • spacebaronlinespacebaronline Member Posts: 1,103 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    mhall85 wrote: »
    Highly doubt there will be a new faction... X2 is going to the Delta Quadrant, so adding a Cardassian faction would be odd timing (seems more likely for the Gamma Quadrant). I doubt even more that they would EVER add a Lib-Borg faction, since this is a large draw for LTS-ers.

    As for T6 ships, I say no... it's possible, but a ton of people on here say it won't happen (plus, I believe the T6 ship idea was shot down by the devs, at one point).

    So, what ships will be available? My guesses:
    Kazon ships (my hope for KDFers... fighter, cruiser, shuttle... maybe just a lock box)
    Krenim ships (my bet for the next lock box!)
    Vidian ships (rolled into Rom faction?)
    Dauntless-class
    Constellation-class
    Admiral Janeway's shuttle
    remastered Vesta
    remastered Intrepid
    remastered Nebula
    remastered Negh'Var

    And, my hope is that all factions will each get a few new 2410 ships. The Roms want a carrier, so that would make sense.

    Makes sense. Maybe he was also referring to a LOT of new NPC ships?
  • galanis2814galanis2814 Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    In the context it's pretty clear he is referring to playable ships, as the comments specifically have to do with the backend work in the code branch that has to be done for playable ships, and how making versions for the current code branch and the expansion code branch would slow development down and generally waste resources.

    He also specifically mentioned a 5/2 Kumari-like Raptor for KDF is coming, at long last.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    He also specifically mentioned a 5/2 Kumari-like Raptor for KDF is coming, at long last.

    I've, uh, learned never to believe him when it comes to KDF ships. Everything else he says - whether he says it is coming or it is not coming - ends up in the game...but the KDF ships...meh, just doesn't happen.
  • spacebaronlinespacebaronline Member Posts: 1,103 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    In the context it's pretty clear he is referring to playable ships, as the comments specifically have to do with the backend work in the code branch that has to be done for playable ships, and how making versions for the current code branch and the expansion code branch would slow development down and generally waste resources.

    He also specifically mentioned a 5/2 Kumari-like Raptor for KDF is coming, at long last.

    That's true - he does refer to using a lot of the existing player ship code - which would not be used for NPC ships.

    Very interesting.
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Am I the only one who doesn't want MOAR ships?
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I've, uh, learned never to believe him when it comes to KDF ships. Everything else he says - whether he says it is coming or it is not coming - ends up in the game...but the KDF ships...meh, just doesn't happen.
    I'll bet you 5mill EC that the 5/2 Raptor will be here before the year's end.

    :cool:
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    I'll bet you 5mill EC that the 5/2 Raptor will be here before the year's end.

    :cool:

    Would take me longer than to the end of the year to make 5m EC since S9.5 though...
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Would take me longer than to the end of the year to make 5m EC since S9.5 though...
    Oh? Why is that? I made at least 30mill so far selling R&D mats I got from queues and R&D requisitions at the academy. Plus weapon drops have increased EC payout too. It's not hard to get, though you probably have to be lucky with the R&D mats/components.

    Edit: This post don't seem too "I have a sandwich so you can't be starving", does it?
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    As said above, we know for an absolute fact the Constellation is coming, because of that leak. And it the saucer appeared to be 95% done.

    The KDF has that Negh'var refit (VoD'Legh?) they been talking about for nearly a year.

    The Dauntless surely will have to appear given it's connection to the Delta Quadrant.

    Romulans likely get a new ship to balance the equation.

    We got a ton of Delta Quadrant species in lockboxes. The Vaadaur fighters will go into the Lobi store.

    mhall85 wrote: »
    As for T6 ships, I say no... it's possible, but a ton of people on here say it won't happen (plus, I believe the T6 ship idea was shot down by the devs, at one point).

    Yeah, they made it clear that they knew the playerbase would go into meltdown knowing that their Tier 5 ships would suddenly be outdated. Lockbox ships, Fleet Ships, Lobi ships, C-store ships.......

    But given Gekos recent snubery, I got a bad feeling ...........
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    Oh? Why is that? I made at least 30mill so far selling R&D mats I got from queues and R&D requisitions at the academy. Plus weapon drops have increased EC payout too. It's not hard to get.

    Edit: This post don't seem too "I have a sandwich so you can't be starving", does it?

    Nah, doesn't seem that way.

    I mainly earned EC from trashing Deflectors/Shields/Cores/Engines. Missions that would get me 100-500k now don't even get me 20-30k...meh.
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Nah, doesn't seem that way.

    I mainly earned EC from trashing Deflectors/Shields/Cores/Engines. Missions that would get me 100-500k now don't even get me 20-30k...meh.
    So weapons don't drop for you?
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    So weapons don't drop for you?

    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Weapons Battery for 80 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Tetryon Beam Array Mk XI for 6,788 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Dual Phaser Beam Bank Mk XI for 6,788 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Console - Engineering - Ablative Hull Armor Mk XI for 1,989 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Engine Battery for 80 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Transphasic Mine Launcher Mk XI [CrtH] for 9,028 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Critical Components for 3,200 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Tricobalt Mine Launcher Mk XI for 6,788 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Dual Disruptor Beam Bank Mk XI for 6,788 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Auxiliary Battery for 80 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Console - Engineering - Injector Assembly Mk XI for 2,939 Energy Credits


    I just happened to be doing a trash from a mission: 51336 EC

    I would have made more from having just 2-3 Deflector/Shield/Core/Engine drop.

    edit: Here, I just got a Deflector drop while doing the Dyson daily in the Allied Zone.

    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Graviton Deflector Array MK XI [InC] for 9,028 Energy Credits

    It's trash price was cut more than in half...a Mk XI Green would have been ~30k.
  • jengozjengoz Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    voporak wrote: »
    Am I the only one who doesn't want MOAR ships?

    you not the only one.. I have quite a few ships. I want some thing to do with them. Not more of them.
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  • joshl7889joshl7889 Member Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Weapons Battery for 80 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Tetryon Beam Array Mk XI for 6,788 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Dual Phaser Beam Bank Mk XI for 6,788 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Console - Engineering - Ablative Hull Armor Mk XI for 1,989 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Engine Battery for 80 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Transphasic Mine Launcher Mk XI [CrtH] for 9,028 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Critical Components for 3,200 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Tricobalt Mine Launcher Mk XI for 6,788 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Dual Disruptor Beam Bank Mk XI for 6,788 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Auxiliary Battery for 80 Energy Credits
    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Console - Engineering - Injector Assembly Mk XI for 2,939 Energy Credits


    I just happened to be doing a trash from a mission: 51336 EC

    I would have made more from having just 2-3 Deflector/Shield/Core/Engine drop.

    edit: Here, I just got a Deflector drop while doing the Dyson daily in the Allied Zone.

    [System] [NumericReceived] You sold Graviton Deflector Array MK XI [InC] for 9,028 Energy Credits

    It's trash price was cut more than in half...a Mk XI Green would have been ~30k.


    Dude, green quality was NEVER that much. You get at most 30k from a purple quality deflector, but not a green. The trash price is 1/2 of wat the "sell" price is
    *Me*Why don't you just step away from the weapons console. You and I both know that you couldn't hit that cube, even if it was right in front of us.
    *Junior Tactical Officer* But sir the cube IS right in front of us.
    *Me* EXACTLY! Its right in front of us and you still missed it! Just step away from the console.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    joshl7889 wrote: »
    Dude, green quality was NEVER that much. You get at most 30k from a purple quality deflector, but not a green. The trash price is 1/2 of wat the "sell" price is

    Yeah, sell price on a Mk XI Green was 66.5k.

    Mk XI Common 50k
    Mk XI Uncommon 66.5k
    Mk XI Rare 83k
    Mk XI Very Rare 100k

    Where you'd get 1/2 of that.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I've, uh, learned never to believe him when it comes to KDF ships. Everything else he says - whether he says it is coming or it is not coming - ends up in the game...but the KDF ships...meh, just doesn't happen.

    Yeah...if it's anything Romulan or Klingon I wont hold my breath till there is a blog about it on the front page lol.

    Who knows maybe these new ships will be long range vessels...a.k.a science vessels? Which would be a good time to bring in the secondary deflectors...pipe dream I know :P
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  • spacebaronlinespacebaronline Member Posts: 1,103 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Holy cow - this is a "lots of ships" coming thread - not a loot drop nerf thread:P

    Virus - If you want 10, 20, 30 million EC - just let me know.:)
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Holy cow - this is a "lots of ships" coming thread - not a loot drop nerf thread:P

    Heh, it was about the bet with orange and Geko talking about KDF ships. :P

    Cause how long ago did he mention certain KDF ships...and...we're still waiting on them?
    Virus - If you want 10, 20, 30 million EC - just let me know.:)

    Nah, I was fine living comfortably poor before...going to try out this uncomfortably poor thing for a bit. ;)
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Heh, it's like the Negh'Var Refit...that started how long ago? We even got the Mogh copypasta when the Feds got the Avenger, but there was no Negh'Var. Some even though the Mogh was what they decided to give us in its place...but they kept talking about it.

    Fleet Guramba for how long?

    Sure, sure - the Fleet Kar'Fi came along...only cause they wanted to give the Feds the Fleet Atrox and Roms the Fleet Ar'kif.

    As long as somebody else needs a ship, the KDF might - maybe - possibly - perchance get a ship too...

    edit: Either way, it's a win for me. He actually comes through - awesome. He does the same ol' same ol'...I get to keep complaining. Obviously I'd rather finally have a freakin' ZEN Raptor...but meh...it's been how long now?
  • hartzillahartzilla Member Posts: 1,177 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    If they are adding more ships fed side any hope that there might be more Odessey inspired ship skins.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Hrmmm, to be honest - listening to that again...I guess I glossed through the first time (heh, hate podcasts - I tune out) - it could simply be what he was talking about with branch40 and branch45, eh?

    That they've basically got to "recreate" all the current ships in the new branch...so they're technically working on a lot of ships without having to work on a single new ship.

    Course, it begs the question of why they had to break the data going from 40 to 45, eh? What's going to be different about our ships with 45...hrmmm...
  • spacebaronlinespacebaronline Member Posts: 1,103 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Hrmmm, to be honest - listening to that again...I guess I glossed through the first time (heh, hate podcasts - I tune out) - it could simply be what he was talking about with branch40 and branch45, eh?

    That they've basically got to "recreate" all the current ships in the new branch...so they're technically working on a lot of ships without having to work on a single new ship.

    Course, it begs the question of why they had to break the data going from 40 to 45, eh? What's going to be different about our ships with 45...hrmmm...

    This is the reason I suggested an upgrade to T6 - So there will be new T6 ships - but all the existing ships are being worked on to bring them up a level to.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Lots of ships and lots of playable ships are two completely different things. For every new enemy npc faction that is introduced in Expansion 2, assuming that it focuses on the Delta Quadrant, there are at least 3 npc ships that need to be created.
  • malkarrismalkarris Member Posts: 797 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Well, given how they count ships, and how they earn more with fleet ships than c store, I'll put my money that a fair portion are going to be fleet ships one way or another. Even if there are new c-store ships, Cryptic will count it as double for the fleet ship. Feds have all of their ships as fleet ships now I think, or its close, so if there aren't too many new fed ships, KDF has a chance to get some more fleet ships, unless they go for new lower tier Romulan ships.

    There there are the two ships for the lockbox. Maybe three if they add in a shuttle for the lobi store.

    And finally, there are is the ship for the winter event, which I am sure they will count however they can to boost the ship count of currently working on.

    Of course, I could be giving them too much credit and they are just working on adding in secondary deflectors to the science ships and they are counting those as "new."

    Oh and Virus, tips on making EC.

    1. If in fleet, run the fleet EC doff mission. Its over 100K on a crit, if I remember right.

    2. Get dil, change to zen, get keys, sell keys. Probably the fastest way to get a lot of EC.

    3. If you don't mind Bing seeing your searches, sign up for Bing rewards. Once you get to gold level (which doesn't take long, maybe about a month or two max) you can get two to three Rixty $5 game cards a month, and you can still swap those in for zen. Then zen to keys to EC, there's about 28 mil a month, easy. Not a massive amount, but its something. I do this, and haven't had a problem yet.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    This is the reason I suggested an upgrade to T6 - So there will be new T6 ships - but all the existing ships are being worked on to bring them up a level to.

    If they broken the linkage, they'd have to recreate not just the T5 boats - but all the boats, T1-T5...even smallcraft. Might even have to do all the NPC boats. Without knowing why, any speculation about any sort of T6 thing would be pretty out there, eh?

    Course, could be something along the lines of an "Upgrade" slot that T5 ships get that you can drop in, eh? All sorts of time to speculate on this up through X2, hrmm....
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    If they broken the linkage, they'd have to recreate not just the T5 boats - but all the boats, T1-T5...even smallcraft. Might even have to do all the NPC boats. Without knowing why, any speculation about any sort of T6 thing would be pretty out there, eh?

    Course, could be something along the lines of an "Upgrade" slot that T5 ships get that you can drop in, eh? All sorts of time to speculate on this up through X2, hrmm....

    I'll take a sixth tactical console, thanks.

    :rolleyes:
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,588 Community Moderator
    edited July 2014
    I doubt they'll make a T6 ship. Too many people would rage that their current ships, and maybe even their fleet ships, are now obsolete.
    Give us the ability to have an "Away Team" consisting of our ships in certain areas? Maybe.
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