After not getting the Corvette last year, I regretted it and thought I'd get it this time around. I'm half way through my pearls and doing the race has just become a joyless, mindless chore. Aren't video games supposed to be fun?
I know the "flying high" mission can be completed quickly, but IMO it would be really nice if the other things to do on Risa gave a "choice of marks" like other stuff does. So I could build sand castles or hunt horgies for pearls instead.
Just an idea to break up the monotony. I'm contemplating forgetting about getting the Corvette now because, I don't like the idea of having to do something I don't want to do and don't enjoy in a video game to get a ship that I want but don't need.
Besides the choice of marks on Risa, my other suggestion would be to cut the pearls cost for the ships in half. For someone who logs on a couple hours a night, Risa is too much of a grind for me.
Besides the choice of marks on Risa, my other suggestion would be to cut the pearls cost for the ships in half. For someone who logs on a couple hours a night, Risa is too much of a grind for me.
For crying out loud, they're already "almost free" once you grind 1 out- then every character after that gets the same ship for doing "Flying High" once.
Seriously, 5 minutes a night for 25 nights is "too much?" :eek:
People have already begun using their unmelting snowballs to knock people off their powerboards on Risa. Way to go!
Something tells me that was not a WAI... I'd expect that to get nerfed, but not before a lot of people use it to exploit/grief.
{Sigh} So much for powerboard. At least now I know not to spring for more than the basic model if all I can expect are the two tags for finishing the race.
What are snowballs doing on a beach resort, anyway? (Yes, I know they're 'unmelting'... doesn't mean they aren't out of place.)
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should of known better about the snowballs, if you forgot the mechanic that snowbalsl can knock down someone, then it can happen all the time. i dont expect a fix for that until next week, like its a priority.
i do however have a texture modelling issue with my fed female klingon, her lower back above the panties, there is a clearly visible darker tone then it just stops, almost as if someone added a shadow effect to the texture file around the back and failed to realize the rest which it would be connected to. tie waist bikini btw.
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so one thing has been consistent with unyielding success is how unreliable the boosters are during the race. before the patch you would probably get races where you could hit all of them and sometimes you miss one and maybe 2, on occassions all three sets. with the patch the boosters either dont show and when they do they are behind you, so those ahead dont get anything while those behind will get a boost. even when they are there the boosters fail to register and they have become 75% more unreliable then they were before the patch. frankly its totally unacceptable. i have lost about 5 certain wins because a booster failed to activate since the patch today. being a former sim racer when something doesnt work as it should it gets into my crawl space and these boosters are really annoying.
from what i understand the devs know of the boosters, so thats ticked, next issue.
the race course limits, right now there is such lax protection for others who race the track within the limits that they have no chance to catch those skipping rocks heading into the split, after the start and just around the first ramp on the left there is a sandy rocky outcropping that players skip to effectively shortcut the track and the ramp. on a race where speed is everything loosing a few seconds means the difference between winning a race and finishing 4th over a mile behind the rest in equivalent terms by the time it comes to the finish line.
the track limits need strict enforcement like the ice race, meaning short cutting is instant dq in much the same way it goes for activation of the floater in the race.
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But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
Oh man, that sounds like they turned the race into Mario Kart.
If they add banana peels too that would be the best.
lego racers, used to use the grappling hook to tow myself to a distance racer, stop him in his tracks and take the lead by a substantial margin. but thats when i was a kid before the sim racing days.
put down oil slicks, rocket boosters for the racer car. firing a heat seeking rocket, nails and such. such nostalgia.
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Ooh, I got an upgrade from "Major Obvious". Thanks!
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interesting just finished the day on the game, my last race i had no boosters at all but i was still in the fight for victory. as far as boosters go; the ones in the water you run over with the red arrows and the ramps. had none of these at all. so yeah, just want to make sure that is helpful if at all.
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With each passing day I wonder if I stepped into an alternate reality. The Cubs win the world series. Donald Trump is President. Britain leaves the EU. STO gets a dedicated PvP season. Engineers are "out of control" in STO.
Everyone is unanimous that the race flags are a horrible idea. Numerous times I park myself at the event, and still have to wait for the popup. A lot of the time, other players grab it before the popup even comes for me.
Sometimes, it somehow doesn't register that I clicked "Join Race" and I end up going around the track and it doesn't even allow me to complete.
Why do it this way? It makes no sense and only adds an element of needless stupidity so that the person who wins the race doesn't necessarily win. Is there anything cool about that? Please, fix this and stop trying to pass this lame TRIBBLE off as a fun minigame. The sand castle TRIBBLE and flying the peal courses 50 times are already lame enough. Seriously.
* when you ride over the arrows, they sometimes work and sometimes don't.
* when you jump the ramps, it sometimes gives a speed boost and sometimes not with no real logic behind it
* the end flag is atrocious and sometimes the popup doesn't come for several seconds allowing people behind you to win even though you actually won. It's a horrible mechanic and frankly just lazy programming
Sand castles:
* Rewards so low that no one is doing this
* Building variety of things doesn't really give extra bonus. There may have been a one-time bonus for trying all varieties but it was meager
Flying:
* It's fine, just making it the only way to earn pearls is completely tedious and makes the other actions sort of pointless
* when you jump the ramps, it sometimes gives a speed boost and sometimes not with no real logic behind it
There is a logic, you get a boost if it was not given to another person that was closely in front or behind you. Game seams not to be able to handle keeping track of persons position at each time interval so it only register one person, and that is probably why we have that awful mechanism with flags at goal. :rolleyes:
A test server is supposed to be used to properly test patches before patching anything....
The events are boring, the grinds are ridiculous. To top it off most of the rewards can only be used on Risa, which makes them useless. How about giving us letting us at least wear the swimsuits everywhere? That would at least make them some what worth the mindless grind.
The events are boring, the grinds are ridiculous. To top it off most of the rewards can only be used on Risa, which makes them useless. How about giving us letting us at least wear the swimsuits everywhere? That would at least make them some what worth the mindless grind.
The events are boring, the grinds are ridiculous. To top it off most of the rewards can only be used on Risa, which makes them useless. How about giving us letting us at least wear the swimsuits everywhere? That would at least make them some what worth the mindless grind.
If enjoying the environment of Risa and doing the events because they are fun is boring to you, then there's no reason for you to bother visiting Risa, is there? And, since you aren't going to be visiting Risa, why would you want to wear a swimsuit in the first place? Lastly, why would you say something is a mindless grind if you'd be doing it anyway for fun if you enjoy being on Risa in the first place?
I think the main problem here is people thinking about the rewards first and foremost instead of enjoying the activities on their own with the rewards as a nice add-on. This is about -relaxing-, not grinding. If you are only interested in the rewards, you probably will find Risa pretty boring and mindless, so there's no reason for you to take away time from things you will find more enjoyable in other parts of the galaxy. Everything that was there before the event on Risa started is still there, so if you don't find the event fun, you probably won't lose anything that would be important to you by not participating.
If enjoying the environment of Risa and doing the events because they are fun is boring to you, then there's no reason for you to bother visiting Risa, is there? And, since you aren't going to be visiting Risa, why would you want to wear a swimsuit in the first place?
It's an MMOrpg. MMOs are about grinding for items etc. The swimsuits would also give more options to the player in the tailor if they were implemented properly. Now that is something I hold out some hope for. In the meantime, it does no real harm to have them ready just in case. If you don't want to use them, you could always sell them on the exchange for EC at a later date, no?
Lastly, why would you say something is a mindless grind if you'd be doing it anyway for fun if you enjoy being on Risa in the first place?
Read above comment. I.e. "It's an MMO, MMOs are about grinding".
I think the main problem here is people thinking about the rewards first and foremost instead of enjoying the activities on their own with the rewards as a nice add-on. This is about -relaxing-, not grinding. If you are only interested in the rewards, you probably will find Risa pretty boring and mindless, so there's no reason for you to take away time from things you will find more enjoyable in other parts of the galaxy. Everything that was there before the event on Risa started is still there, so if you don't find the event fun, you probably won't lose anything that would be important to you by not participating.
My own opinion.
Hey buddy, this is an MMO and MMOs are mostly about grinding for items. Funnily enough basically all of the stuff on risa is to grind for items, ships or rep marks.
I don't find the event fun, in fact I dislike the sheer grind-fest it is but I want the items and the ships which is why I take part and it is why I imagine the vast majority of people will suffer through it.
I would like to see more seasonal events incorporate STO gameplay. While running races is a neat idea, I enjoy the Star Trek fun of firing a disruptor pistol or launching a photon torpedo. In the future, I would appreciate it if even a simple set of events were attached to these holiday events. As it stands I just find the Risa content to be too dull to play, and the Lobi cost for the ships to simply be too high. The Winter event, no doubt to being older, has much more diverse content though it, too, could stand to use a ship mission.
The events are boring, the grinds are ridiculous. To top it off most of the rewards can only be used on Risa, which makes them useless. How about giving us letting us at least wear the swimsuits everywhere? That would at least make them some what worth the mindless grind.
The events are boring, but thats only because the rewards are so expensive that makes you wonder what the hell i am doing. Just for gathering 1 decent swimsuit for , lets say for 4 or 5 toons you must grind almost 10 days to say the least. The event is not even 2 months lenght. So, if you plan to gather 2 swimsuits for 6 characters.. that is all you get. And unless you spent several hours a day grinding in Risa (because you need to login the next hour to catch the hunting horgans event again) you cant achieve that. And i am not saying anything about the superior floaters, the hoverboards.. etc.
I am not in favor of allowing swimsuits outside Risa, not as regular outfits at least, but what i dont get it is, why the hell they are so expensive if they are limited to Risa. Its ridiculous.
Now, as everybody said, grinding is part of an mmorpg, i agree that cryptic is just too lazy to release original, well made and different events or stuff, but this is what you get. Its better to enjoy what you have that expect things to change.
I like the powerboards, but dislike that you made it mandatory to rent/own a powerboard to just compete in the race. I wonder if this is foreshadowing of a change in the winter event too.
The older events are still fun.
The sand castle event is fun, but terrible implementation allowing so few locations to build sand castles. Also, the reward versus time investment ratio is horrid ... even during bonus time.
Of course there are a few other positives regarding the Summer event, but none top the best most courteous to us players: the generous affording of 40 pearls for a ship if already owning that ship for our other characters.
While I have been somewhat disenchanted with some of Cryptic's recent mod decisions, I have to give credit where it is due, and Risa has been a mostly pleasurable experience for me (much better than the Winter Event). Yes, the favor hunting is a grind, but we are so easily distracted by all the pretty toys! I could have filled my alt's DOff rosters with Risans by now if the swimwear and other toys weren't so much fun. Besides, it did take quite a while to get 4 'toons through the many accolades to qualify for the best DOffs.
I will be both sad & relieved to see this event come to a close, and we are left with the classic beach. Hopefully, we can still break out our swimwear, and use our mobile toys to get around...
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Did not know about this. Should have come here sooner.
To be blunt, this is the second time the Summer Event has caused me to lose interest in STO for a good month or so. The prize ships are still shiny but otherwise uninteresting, the events are fun but meaningless, and the scenery is well constructed and looks good but again, the novelty is ultimately short-lived when i'm trying to get as many favors as possible.
My biggest complaint is the price of things. Specifically the swimwear. The amount being asked, for Risa-only items? It'd be daylight robbery if it were real money. If you're going to restrict the swimwear to Risa during the Summer Event (which encompasses maybe three weeks to a month, out of the entire year) then it should be free - as in, totally free; no currency price tag attached at all. I don't mind paying for my Winter Coats during the winter event since I can use them all the time. But seriously, charging any type of currency for the swimwear was a monstrous mistake. It was probably the thing that drove me away from STO again - I couldn't enjoy fooling around with fleet mates or concentrate on running the race because in the back of my mind, I knew i'd have to spend every waking hour grinding for meagre Favor payouts to get even the most basic of clothing items - that would then be useless once the event ended.
Still, as much as I have slated the event, there are some lessons to be learned for when it comes to this year's Christmas Event. Most notably, expansion is always a good thing. And queueing is always a bad thing. The one thing I can say I liked about the Summer Event is that for the pearls race, I didn't have to queue and wait for other players to start before I could start, and not have to worry about rude people queue-barging.
Food for thought.
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I know the "flying high" mission can be completed quickly, but IMO it would be really nice if the other things to do on Risa gave a "choice of marks" like other stuff does. So I could build sand castles or hunt horgies for pearls instead.
Just an idea to break up the monotony. I'm contemplating forgetting about getting the Corvette now because, I don't like the idea of having to do something I don't want to do and don't enjoy in a video game to get a ship that I want but don't need.
Besides the choice of marks on Risa, my other suggestion would be to cut the pearls cost for the ships in half. For someone who logs on a couple hours a night, Risa is too much of a grind for me.
For crying out loud, they're already "almost free" once you grind 1 out- then every character after that gets the same ship for doing "Flying High" once.
Seriously, 5 minutes a night for 25 nights is "too much?" :eek:
Something tells me that was not a WAI... I'd expect that to get nerfed, but not before a lot of people use it to exploit/grief.
{Sigh} So much for powerboard. At least now I know not to spring for more than the basic model if all I can expect are the two tags for finishing the race.
What are snowballs doing on a beach resort, anyway? (Yes, I know they're 'unmelting'... doesn't mean they aren't out of place.)
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i do however have a texture modelling issue with my fed female klingon, her lower back above the panties, there is a clearly visible darker tone then it just stops, almost as if someone added a shadow effect to the texture file around the back and failed to realize the rest which it would be connected to. tie waist bikini btw.
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Based on no less than 2 consecutive years of Q's Winter Wonderland, I hope you're settled in for the long, long, long haul.
good luck with that, your likely to have a heart attack and die before the devs even care to notice...
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from what i understand the devs know of the boosters, so thats ticked, next issue.
the race course limits, right now there is such lax protection for others who race the track within the limits that they have no chance to catch those skipping rocks heading into the split, after the start and just around the first ramp on the left there is a sandy rocky outcropping that players skip to effectively shortcut the track and the ramp. on a race where speed is everything loosing a few seconds means the difference between winning a race and finishing 4th over a mile behind the rest in equivalent terms by the time it comes to the finish line.
the track limits need strict enforcement like the ice race, meaning short cutting is instant dq in much the same way it goes for activation of the floater in the race.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
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Oh man, that sounds like they turned the race into Mario Kart.
If they add banana peels too that would be the best.
Good, something to make the race more fair for those who can't afford a superior board. Now it's more like Mariokart.
lego racers, used to use the grappling hook to tow myself to a distance racer, stop him in his tracks and take the lead by a substantial margin. but thats when i was a kid before the sim racing days.
put down oil slicks, rocket boosters for the racer car. firing a heat seeking rocket, nails and such. such nostalgia.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Yeah, really more fair... lol..
We should add just mini guns to all power boards, THAT will be fair.. lol.
So, cryptic cant make a realistic hoverboard race, so they need to convert it to a joke.. lol. I love it xD.
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By combining "realistic" and "hoverboard"... you mean like this?
Sometimes, it somehow doesn't register that I clicked "Join Race" and I end up going around the track and it doesn't even allow me to complete.
Why do it this way? It makes no sense and only adds an element of needless stupidity so that the person who wins the race doesn't necessarily win. Is there anything cool about that? Please, fix this and stop trying to pass this lame TRIBBLE off as a fun minigame. The sand castle TRIBBLE and flying the peal courses 50 times are already lame enough. Seriously.
* when you ride over the arrows, they sometimes work and sometimes don't.
* when you jump the ramps, it sometimes gives a speed boost and sometimes not with no real logic behind it
* the end flag is atrocious and sometimes the popup doesn't come for several seconds allowing people behind you to win even though you actually won. It's a horrible mechanic and frankly just lazy programming
Sand castles:
* Rewards so low that no one is doing this
* Building variety of things doesn't really give extra bonus. There may have been a one-time bonus for trying all varieties but it was meager
Flying:
* It's fine, just making it the only way to earn pearls is completely tedious and makes the other actions sort of pointless
There is a logic, you get a boost if it was not given to another person that was closely in front or behind you. Game seams not to be able to handle keeping track of persons position at each time interval so it only register one person, and that is probably why we have that awful mechanism with flags at goal. :rolleyes:
A test server is supposed to be used to properly test patches before patching anything....
Agreed. It also gets new players lost.
If enjoying the environment of Risa and doing the events because they are fun is boring to you, then there's no reason for you to bother visiting Risa, is there? And, since you aren't going to be visiting Risa, why would you want to wear a swimsuit in the first place? Lastly, why would you say something is a mindless grind if you'd be doing it anyway for fun if you enjoy being on Risa in the first place?
I think the main problem here is people thinking about the rewards first and foremost instead of enjoying the activities on their own with the rewards as a nice add-on. This is about -relaxing-, not grinding. If you are only interested in the rewards, you probably will find Risa pretty boring and mindless, so there's no reason for you to take away time from things you will find more enjoyable in other parts of the galaxy. Everything that was there before the event on Risa started is still there, so if you don't find the event fun, you probably won't lose anything that would be important to you by not participating.
My own opinion.
Read above comment. I.e. "It's an MMO, MMOs are about grinding".
Hey buddy, this is an MMO and MMOs are mostly about grinding for items. Funnily enough basically all of the stuff on risa is to grind for items, ships or rep marks.
I don't find the event fun, in fact I dislike the sheer grind-fest it is but I want the items and the ships which is why I take part and it is why I imagine the vast majority of people will suffer through it.
"My own opinion."
The events are boring, but thats only because the rewards are so expensive that makes you wonder what the hell i am doing. Just for gathering 1 decent swimsuit for , lets say for 4 or 5 toons you must grind almost 10 days to say the least. The event is not even 2 months lenght. So, if you plan to gather 2 swimsuits for 6 characters.. that is all you get. And unless you spent several hours a day grinding in Risa (because you need to login the next hour to catch the hunting horgans event again) you cant achieve that. And i am not saying anything about the superior floaters, the hoverboards.. etc.
I am not in favor of allowing swimsuits outside Risa, not as regular outfits at least, but what i dont get it is, why the hell they are so expensive if they are limited to Risa. Its ridiculous.
Now, as everybody said, grinding is part of an mmorpg, i agree that cryptic is just too lazy to release original, well made and different events or stuff, but this is what you get. Its better to enjoy what you have that expect things to change.
I like the powerboards, but dislike that you made it mandatory to rent/own a powerboard to just compete in the race. I wonder if this is foreshadowing of a change in the winter event too.
The older events are still fun.
The sand castle event is fun, but terrible implementation allowing so few locations to build sand castles. Also, the reward versus time investment ratio is horrid ... even during bonus time.
Of course there are a few other positives regarding the Summer event, but none top the best most courteous to us players: the generous affording of 40 pearls for a ship if already owning that ship for our other characters.
Thank you & Risa is still fun :-)
- Bird Egg drop rate sucks alot. It needs to be increased OR made a daily reward for your first Lolnut Hunt instead of the 25 bonus Lolnuts.
- Powerboard race is a G-damn nightmare of bugs, pay-to-win boards, and idiotic finish line mechanic.
- Dance contest is torture. I'm going to call the U.N. about the Geneva Convention breaches.
- Sandcastles is worst reward giving event ever devised in human history.
- Flying High is ok, but only because you know it has an end point.
- The Alt friendly 'only need 40 pearls to get ship' is freaking awesome! Copy that for Winter event please.
- Swimsuits on Risa only... Ok, I can live w/ that, but the price of the suits should be 50-100 not 500-1000 to counter the limited use.
- Bird/Monkey raising should be 20hr cooldown, not 24 hrs.
- Monkey tags should be sold by vendor for 50 lolnuts for 6. (same for a single bird egg, not 150)
Or leave all prices the same but give LTS members a 50% discount.i hope that they more bugs problems solving and please the swimsuits on lower price it is to much -_-!
I will be both sad & relieved to see this event come to a close, and we are left with the classic beach. Hopefully, we can still break out our swimwear, and use our mobile toys to get around...
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To be blunt, this is the second time the Summer Event has caused me to lose interest in STO for a good month or so. The prize ships are still shiny but otherwise uninteresting, the events are fun but meaningless, and the scenery is well constructed and looks good but again, the novelty is ultimately short-lived when i'm trying to get as many favors as possible.
My biggest complaint is the price of things. Specifically the swimwear. The amount being asked, for Risa-only items? It'd be daylight robbery if it were real money. If you're going to restrict the swimwear to Risa during the Summer Event (which encompasses maybe three weeks to a month, out of the entire year) then it should be free - as in, totally free; no currency price tag attached at all. I don't mind paying for my Winter Coats during the winter event since I can use them all the time. But seriously, charging any type of currency for the swimwear was a monstrous mistake. It was probably the thing that drove me away from STO again - I couldn't enjoy fooling around with fleet mates or concentrate on running the race because in the back of my mind, I knew i'd have to spend every waking hour grinding for meagre Favor payouts to get even the most basic of clothing items - that would then be useless once the event ended.
Still, as much as I have slated the event, there are some lessons to be learned for when it comes to this year's Christmas Event. Most notably, expansion is always a good thing. And queueing is always a bad thing. The one thing I can say I liked about the Summer Event is that for the pearls race, I didn't have to queue and wait for other players to start before I could start, and not have to worry about rude people queue-barging.
Food for thought.