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suzanna3
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To Boldly dance like a puppet on a string...
To mess up the screen, so you can't see a thing....
Is that what this game has become? :eek:
I would like to point out that some individuals and groups are using the "party amplifier"[disco ball] and other devices to flagrantly break some rules in Terms and Conditions that are clearly stated on the site -
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f. stalk, threaten or otherwise harass or cause discomfort to another;"
They spam the party amplifier [disco ball] and other devices continuously, to the point where any social gathering or event in a public place becomes unpleasant,the screen becomes just a mess, unpleasant to look at, thereby forcing these events to be moved to "invite only"ships or bases. [This is unfortunate as the limit of players allowed on ships is very small compared to a public area, and bases can not invite different factions, thus limiting the players choice]
Of course, one can and does report, but how many reports are needed before it becomes clear that something needs to be done about this? This has been going on for a year approx....
As it is clear that some of these devices are open to abuse by some, the devs would be wise to address this matter.....
To mess up the screen, so you can't see a thing....
Is that what this game has become? :eek:
I would like to point out that some individuals and groups are using the "party amplifier"[disco ball] and other devices to flagrantly break some rules in Terms and Conditions that are clearly stated on the site -
15.
f. stalk, threaten or otherwise harass or cause discomfort to another;"
They spam the party amplifier [disco ball] and other devices continuously, to the point where any social gathering or event in a public place becomes unpleasant,the screen becomes just a mess, unpleasant to look at, thereby forcing these events to be moved to "invite only"ships or bases. [This is unfortunate as the limit of players allowed on ships is very small compared to a public area, and bases can not invite different factions, thus limiting the players choice]
Of course, one can and does report, but how many reports are needed before it becomes clear that something needs to be done about this? This has been going on for a year approx....
As it is clear that some of these devices are open to abuse by some, the devs would be wise to address this matter.....
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I've wondered from time to time, if the overall effect of the Party Amps wouldn't be as bad on some folks if it were not for the dance emotes being so horrible...
Oh, no doubt there's the choice aspect that's being violated. For me though, it comes down to if the Party Amp forced the toon to do jumping jacks - I'd just be annoyed about being forced to do the jumping jacks and think it pretty stupid. The dance emotes, though, man oh man - it takes it to an entirely different level for me...I've uh, said some things in local that I'm not proud of having said; because those dance emotes are just so bad...it massively magnifies my negative reaction to the toon being forced to take some action.
Should I have the right to go about my business in game without being forced to dance for someone else's amusement? Perhaps.
Should someone have the right to use toys put in game by Cryptic? Again, perhaps.
Point is, we have two sets of rights, both justified to the same degree, but conflicting with each other.
The solution is one of two approaches. It can either be self governing or cryptic can regulate it.
Self governing works, and is the preferred option, provided two things happen.
Those who hate the wretched things avoid areas where they're common, and those who like ghrm stick to avoidable places.
Problems arise when people insist on going to disco ball hotspots and act surprised when the spirit of john Travolta moves them. They also arise when the throwers seek to bypass someone's option not to dance.
I hate the wretched things, but some love them. Thus I do my business in K7 and not Drozana.
As long as K7 remains free of the horrible things then everyone has an option that suits them.
I don't like Ren Faires.
In CoH the disco lights and other appurtenances were limited to clubs. There was no spontaneous disco lighting on the street. If you wanted it, you knew where to go.
Yeah, one glance at the title and I knew what we had going- "this thread again."
It's also a bit soon for another, considering how recent the last was. Maybe the anti-disco-ball troops are doing warmup exercises for the LOLnut festival? As I recall the last one was also a "multiple disco ball threads per day" festival.
I would like to point out that this has been pointed out so many times there's no possible way the Devs and staff aren't aware of it, and suggest that this having been the case since at least the last LOLnut festival could point to them being content with the situation as it currently stands, making the entire topic eligible for "beating a dead sandworm" status.
Heres a thought for Risa.
Make instance 1 disco ball free and have at it for all the others.
Leave those of us who hate disco balls one haven.
If you're reading this Nebreeki, how about it?
One instance for us grumpy people and let the kids have their fun everywhere else.
Would you support that idea?
Another baby crying about Disco Balls, ah do you have nightmares already off Disco Balls Chasing you, Ah that's terrible, My advice as a Ships Doctor would be shut off your Computer for awhile read a good book. Do this for a weak and the problems should disappear...
Because there is nothing to do in this god forsaken MMO Grind Fest, that's why people use Disco Balls to at least have some fun round here...
Watch this tread !!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFKy1jfqDWM
Not in a live time !!!:D
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
No matter who gets more areas and who gets fewer, this is still the "[Disco/Anti-Disco] Ghetto" concept which I will oppose until drawing my last breath.
How about they add a client-side "No Fun on My Screen, Buddy!" toggle that lets those who wish opt out of seeing any item-induced avatar/NPC actions?
Then, for those who hate the disco balls, everywhere is a disco-free zone even though they're actually walking through a Disco Inferno of other players.
Then the disco-ballers can dance 24/7, the anti-disco-ballers can walk right through the same areas unmolested, and nobody is confined to the "penalty instance?"
Well if they added an area, instead they removed the Disco on ESD and there is no where else where you can have decend fun in this game....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxpzPjA99_Q&list=PLmFrMBy4DV_gGUDU5rfyorlJRHgUKqTIe
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
These will be the only threads you see come Risa because a certain fleet will be out in force.
Thread winner. Disco "Not Trek" my eye...
Do you suppose Klytemwhoever will be back? Those videos were actually rather funny, in an eye-rolling "Gawd, get a grip already" kind of way.
That way the ones that conisder the DB fun can still use them whenever and wherever they want, while to ones that consider them an annoyance won't have their chars forced into an animation they don't like.
And then see how suddenly the rate of these threads that often end with TOS violations come to a full stop. Peace and quiet for everyone....well until the new "Fed needs cloak" thread.
this very much ^^^^^^^^^
system Lord Baal is dead
Discoball is a colloquial term used for them on the forum and chat, the actual name of the device is the subspace party amplifier. It' not a discoball in the traditional sense, it's far more advanced.
Agreed with client-side opt-out 100%.
But I think your above statement is laughable. I don't doubt for a moment that after about 24 hours of celebration, the people who get so bent about "OMG mah character did something I didn't tell it to do" (you know, like idle animations :rolleyes: ) will find something else to mount a no-compromise jihad over.
Eh, you're probably right - but what I meant was that this specific topic usually always ends with multiple TOS breaches, warnings and infractions to participants.
True, there are many other dead horses that get annualy beaten and complaint threads about whatnot, but none of which succeeds in bringing so much animosity between the posters as the DB threads. Heck even the mods often tend to close these threads before they get out of hand, because they know it'll eventually get out of hand.
We won't be peachy afterwards, but we'll be better off without them.
In WoW there was a really annoying toy that made everyone imitate a train for the duration (emote AND a voice clip). Then the devs added another toy that seeks and destroys it.
Add a "Party neutralizer" where you whip out a phaser rifle and blast that big ball of annoying to smithereens, as well as adding a long CD to the amplifier.
you mean this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atd_535Su-Y i loved both of them toys in wow
but you do got a point very good idea imo
system Lord Baal is dead
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f. stalk, threaten or otherwise harass or cause discomfort to another;
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Of course there are two sides to every coin, some will find these Discoballs/Subspace Party Amplifiers fun, while others will not.
It is one thing to walk/jog/run through an area where they are being let off, it's another thing entirely when a person takes it upon themselves to follow your character around and continuously let them off, forcing your character to perform an unwarranted and unwanted action.
During player-run events, the less-savory people of our community will seek the event out and cause mayhem. When asked nicely and politely to stop, they refuse or use the common child routine of "this is my fun, so I'm going to do it anyway."
Multiple Discoballs/Subspace Party Amplifiers are not only a disruption to the flow of gameplay but they also can cause serious lag on most rigs.
In most other MMOs, anything that can affect the actions of the PC is on a short animation cycle and on a heavy cooldown.
Looking over the previous posts of this topic, I don't believe the issue is putting the pro-discoball/Subspace Party Amplifier crowd into a "ghetto", but a intelligent post bringing attention to a topic that impacts a fair portion of the community in STO. And to compare what is being said in this thread to Germany of the 1940s is not only disrespectful to the people that went through it, but a false argument. I will offer those that are comparing it to such an atrocious event, please go and re-read your history books.
I'm sure there are some that are done reading these types of threads, but if no one says anything, how will the powers-that-be know what's truly going on?
Someone above offered a brilliant solution and I will echo it here. The devices should either be restricted to specific locations of the game where they in fact make more sense, or there should be a client side option to turn them off. Same as can be done for the party balloons and the smoke guns and all. I would also throw in they shouldn't override any current player animations.
This way both crowds can be happy and find some sort of middle ground.
As we approach the Risa Summer Event, the only thing I can say is these Subspace Party Amplifiers are....so last year.
This thread again.
Good luck.