So yeah, no idea who/what the Krenim are...but I can think of dozens of Red Forman quotes to share for everybody that voted VOY...so I'm going with the Krenim.
The Krenim Empire is going to put there foots into your asses :P
Krenim FTW
and to think Red Forman was also a Federation President and Thrax
Yeah well, this sounds just like nothing new but more ships, more species, more new aliens and ships in new costumes...how well dit that work with season 7, adding a complete new playable species? It doesn`t work for me, or my fleet...
If we come into delta quadrant without having a real exploration game mechanic it will be obvious, that it will come never.
Also: the BORG as playable race? Yeah, this means STO shuts down one year after this "expansion".
So sorry, but this dev post is worst case - and this from dstahl itself - holy upkeeper of exploration hopes.
I would like to see:
- a real exploration game mechanic, in an persistent delta quadrant, which resets every 3 month, so the race restarts.
- a territory control game, which could open the way to the delta quadrant for the faction controling the wormwhole atm. (this could be integrated in suggestion 1)
- neverwinter ground combat mechanics in STO, which means making the game accessable in "combat mode". Clear out 2/3 of ground abilities.
- make skill count - increase difficulty so you really need your ship or your knowledge of how your abilities work. All(!) content atm is just firepower, firepower, firepower. Some call it Pew,pew. An other way to do this would be to improve loot in higher difficulties. Why should anyone play in higher difficulties, as it gets you nothing, but costs more time (more enemys spawn) and ingame currency to heal your injuries...
- pvp. I don`t know, why you always TRIBBLE up on pvp. You are doing it right now also in neverwinter. Classes are unbalanced, and there is still one pvp mode and two mapes?!? For months?!? Are you going to wait until every one is bored, abandons pvp play and then you state, it doesn`t pay off to improve pvp because no one plays it? Is it that hard to make a pvp map every six weeks or so?!?
We don`t need more costumes. We need new game mechanics and related content.
I voted Hierarchy. In addition to their awesome ship designs (Assault-class and the survey vessel, which could work as enemy cruisers and frigates respectively) they also seemed to be a relatively powerful, yet mysterious, faction. The Devore and the Vidiians are my runner-ups.
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I voted Vidiians. At least they are somewhat different in their goals and intentions from every other voyager species. The others are just moustache twirling villains and measly 'empires' who only strive for 'unlimited powah!' ... *yawn* ... yeah we have never seen those before :rolleyes:
my take on how to incorporate the delta quad would be
A group of starfleet vessels equipped with slip stream make the long journey to the asteroid field where nelix lives. Once the ships are there then they start building a transwarp gate which connects to the one in the alpha quadrant. From there more constructions ships make there way through the gate and assemble a star base and ally them selves with the talaxians and nelix as the ambassador.
Then your free to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before
you have a better way of explaining how you got there. it's called an iconian gateway.
Just a note ... Getting there isn't as long as people might think ... longer than currently ... yes ... but we have (1) transwarp drive which puts it just a week or so out ... look at the books.
and (2) ... The Borg can already get back and forth.
I voted Viidians. Yes the Phage has been cured, but the trama of generation of Viidians murdering people for thier organs as well as slavery and piracy has to leave massive scars on the Viidian mindset. Some might go back to a more idealistic lifestyle, but others have know little or nothing but murder, thief, enslavement, and medical cannibalism.
This could lead to interesting plotlines as Viidian society tries to rebuild and handle so many damage people. The time that has passed since Voyager is too little time to fix something so massively broken.
*snaps fingers* Stahl, snap out of it! *claps hands* Snap out of it mr.Stahl, before it's too late. A Borg or Undine faction is a really bad idea the way you're introducing factions in STO. It makes absolutely zero sense to shoehorn the Borg or Undine into a Fed or KDF alliance. Please forget about this, it will make STO the laughing stock of the entire Star Trek community.
Even if you're discussing making one of those a full fledged faction, which would shock me BTW:eek:, don't do the Borg, because to do them justice you'll have to make all of their ships uber OP. Then you'll have the other 3 factions whining for the whole eternity. And if you make Borg and scale down the power output of their ships, you will turn one of the most frightening and menacing species in Star Trek into a complete joke. I can already see a player with a JHAS owning another one in a Tactical Cube. Please don't do this, it will make more damage than good to STO.
Also, does Voyager winning the poll mean that we'll finally be getting a pack of Voyager interiors with the proper bridge and facilities in the C-Store?
As you say, they were "hand-waved out" which is another way of saying "lazily removed by the writers" ... and it was done without apparent reason. Furthermore, without any supporting evidence. The Think Tank could've been lying.
Or, even more devious, they could have given the Vidiians a cure that only works temporarily, and more would only be supplied on the condition that the Vidiians become a sort of vassal state to their needs. A protection racket, one might say... Sort of a, "Continue to pay us or otherwise fulfill our needs, and we'll keep your species cured. Fail, and you lose."
The Think Tank was not an altruistic group of thinkers. They were only interested if they got something out of the deal. And when they were crippled by Voyager, it's entirely possible that the 'cure' stopped working.
I'm not seeing how the disposition of the phage has anything to do with the viability of the Viidians as a alien for STO. Voyager was moving through regions of space, it only made sense they would pass Viidian space, like they passed Kazon and Borg space.
I'm still deeply disappointed that the community voted for Voyager. Not only was it the worst Trek, it's also bad television. I know some people have been able to reconcile their opinion of the show by accepting that Janeway was the villain rather than the hero... but I follow the viewpoint of many of the cast in thinking it was unwatchable tripe.
Less Voyager the better.
Do to the nature of Voyager moving through vast areas of space, that series has the most possible alien cultures with minimal contact that can be expanded on. I don't see what any of that has to do with the supposed quality of Voyager as a television series.
I don't know if this has been mentioned or no yet, but what about be flung halfway to the DQ, like reach a abandoned Unicomplex with a modified transwarp hub, and then expand from there?
What would I like to see? Vidiian ground weapons, PVP-only if need be, that would proc injuries on the target when fired.
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Reading this post by Stahl makes me really wish Voyager had not won the poll.
Had Deep Space Nine won, we would likely have gotten playable Cardassians, or maybe a Changeling bridge officer, or Vorta.
Had Enterprise won, we would likely have gotten the Xindi in the game.
But, since Voyager won, we seem to be stuck on Voyager for the next year (probably Season 8 and 9 together).
Had people known they were secretly picking the direction for the next 12 months of the game, I suspect some people would have not voted for Voyager.
and it should be pointed out all other shows. are based in the alpha+beta quadrants.
and combined they beat the delta quadrant based show. just thought i'd throw that out there. the alpha and beta quadrants need far far far much more work doing on them before heading to the gamma quadrant (easily accessible from a thing called the worm hole) or delta quadrant
Wow, there are a lot more Voyager fans out there than I ever expected. I'm decidedly Not A Fan, but fair's fair.
Opening up the Delta Quadrant is pretty tricky, for the reasons Stahl outlined. I agree that it makes no sense to have every single player get trapped the way Voyager did, but I also find the idea of simply expanding into Delta Quadrant space rather...boring.
I guess my ideal solution is kind of a compromise between the two. Maybe our factions could discover some sort of Borg Transwarp Hub / Iconian Gateway / technological whatzit that allows them to travel far into the heart of the Delta Quadrant - too far to reach by conventional warp, but the initial mechanism of travel still works, a la the Tranwarp to Gamma Orionis.
This would be a prime opportunity to develop that new exploration system that's been discussed for the last three years...the Delta Quadrant would truly be a new frontier, Voyager having barely scratched the surface during its, well, voyage.
As far as storylines go, I think it'd be nice to encounter a political climate between various Delta factions which feels like it's existed for hundreds of years - we're constantly bumping up against conflicts and tensions which run deep, and it's hard to take sides. That would be a lot more interesting to me than yet another "superfaction" that everybody needs to unite to defeat, a la the Borg, Undine, Tal Shiar, and presumably Iconians.
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
A game where my ship and crew is put in some random area in the delta quadrent and has to find its way home? maybe not appealing to some but this actually sounds like fun to me, just as long as it does not take 7 years, maybe a week or a few days or some certain amount of in game play time.
I would prefer another faction with the same quality, or better, just like the Romulans.
Getting all these new player ships is great, but lately it is getting out of hand a little. I see more fed captains flying captured enemy ships than actual fed ships. at this rate it would be easier to take the fed / kdf/rom put them all together, and call it one big faction and just let everyone buy anything they want. feds can be explorers, kdf can be the warriors, roms can be the spies.
Lets see more factions with there own specific ships rather than introducing a new species and handing their ships out to the fed/kdf/rom. could even make it a 500 or 1000 zen option to switch factions to get more people into other factions.
My question is : Why not the Gamma quadrant? You already have a gateway there, and only a little bit has been explored. Seems to me there is the opening you need. The delta Quadrant has a lot of stuff, but like you said, there is no "easy" way to get back and forth from there. Therefore you might want to give another star system another wormhole like bajor to the Delta. Or just work on the gamma quadrant first. MHO.
my take on how to incorporate the delta quad would be
A group of starfleet vessels equipped with slip stream make the long journey to the asteroid field where nelix lives. Once the ships are there then they start building a transwarp gate which connects to the one in the alpha quadrant. From there more constructions ships make there way through the gate and assemble a star base and ally them selves with the talaxians and nelix as the ambassador.
Then your free to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before
An easier solution would be to explain that while exploring in the Gamma Quadrant (through the Bajoran Wormhole), a joint Federation/Romulan Team discovered another Stable Wormhole that leads to the Delta Quadrant.
This would not only get us there quickly, but would also give a reason for there to be more development and use of that already existing resource in the game.
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Of those listed I had to go with the Kremin, Year of Hell was my favorite two parter. I was disappointing that the Vaudwar were not included in the poll but I dragged that subject to death already. I just hope the Devs are thinking about them.
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An easier solution would be to explain that while exploring in the Gamma Quadrant (through the Bajoran Wormhole), a joint Federation/Romulan Team discovered another Stable Wormhole that leads to the Delta Quadrant.
This would not only get us there quickly, but would also give a reason for there to be more development and use of that already existing resource in the game.
This sounds great, could add both voyager species and deep space nine species at the same time. could make a sort of battle between the alpha-beta/gamma/delta quadrent species. instead of faction wars it would be quadrant wars
To tell the truth, none of those options thrill me much.
The Kazon and the Krenim are probably logical choices. But I don't have any enthusiasm for either of them. Possibly because the Kazon are dirtbags and I haven't seen the episodes with the Krenim yet (still working through Netflix occasionally).
What happened to the Turei and the surviving Vaadwaur? Those underspace corridors sound like an excellent excuse for exploring the Delta Quadrant.
What about the Ocampa? Seems like it would be hard to tell a story about the Delta Quadrant in the post-Voyager era without dealing with that question.
The photonic lifeforms? ("Heroes and Demons", "Bride of Chaotica!", "Body and Soul", "Flesh and Blood") Seems like we have lots of options there, too.
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The Vidiians were terrifying. At least if you were assimilated by the Borg you were still mostly intact, with the addition of some cool cybernetics. If you were captured by the Vidiians, you would end up as part of someone else's skin! Creepy!
A Vidiian mission would make a great Halloween or Friday the 13th featured episode. A ground missions through a Vidiian ship or base would be like a shop of horrors. I would love to go up against the Vidiians in STO, if only for the sheer terror of the thought of what happens to you if you lose...
So just by the memory alpha material if your looking for bad guys the Krenim, Possible allies post-phage then the Vidiian, the rest seem to be minor players in an sto setting used to flesh out some story lines perhaps.
Vidiian would be my vote in that case forging new alliances and all that.
A Vidiian mission would make a great Halloween or Friday the 13th featured episode. A ground missions through a Vidiian ship or base would be like a shop of horrors. I would love to go up against the Vidiians in STO, if only for the sheer terror of the thought of what happens to you if you lose...
And then you click 'respawn' and the whole thing is ruined. :P
Very nice, very very nice. I can see the Voth interesting in suppressing the idea they came from the Alpha Quadrant. More correctly that little planet ruled by primitive primates who think they have something in common with them. Best just to wipe earth out of the star map and be done with it.
It was said They have been able to help hundreds of clients, including the Vidiians, for whom they cured the Phage. Granted they had been underhanded... but if the Think Tank was as smart as they appeared in the show... Chances are they COULD pull it off. And I think the Vidiians would have been willing to pay any price to cure the Phage. So if you introduce the Vidiians... Remember that they may not have the Phage.
I Voted for the Malons because the first episode they were introduced, I like the idea of their garbage scows showing up to start dumping their Toxic waste in the Alpha Quadrant. Via Wormhole Far from home, out of sight out of mind. And when pointed out they are endangering lives... Sorry not our problem. Maybe even sending automated Scows to dump the radiation. Theta Radiation bombs as weapons. So an entire arc could be to locate the wormhole, Get through it... get past the Waste disposal group (Which was said The technology that recycles Theta radiation would put them out of business.)
No body likes the idea of being put out of business, by simple technology. The Klingons would be more inclined to destroy these attackers, or make a new allie to at least convince them of the error of dumping in Klingon Space, To... encourage them to dump in federation space. Romulan republic might be interested in stopping the dumping (which could be encouraged by the Tal Shiar) in their space and getting additional trading partners.
The Federation being the do gooders they are... to help them correct the problem all together.
Can't wait to fly a Borg ship that is weaker then my current ship. What are Cubes now days like T3. Maybe the borg Tube, that's a T5 ship right.
What ever happened to the Kazon? The Vidiians? The Talaxians? What about the Malon and the Hierarchy? What has happened between the Undine and the Borg? What about the Caretaker, or the Hirogen communications network? There are so many episodes to go back and expand on.
I would love to know what happen to them. But if we go to the Delta Quadrant, I do know what will happen to them. I will be forced to slaughter them all just like I have to do with the Borg everyday.
Where is Janeway, Kim, Tuvok, Seven of Nine, The Doctor, and what about Neelix and Kes?
Will they come to the Delta Quadrant to slaughter there old enemies with me?
We already know that the Voth are going to play a big role in Season 8 ? their massive city ships and technologically advanced society will prove to be a great challenge to existing captains.
Like the Borg are? I do not have much faith in that statement.
If you are going to take us to the Delta Quadrant please do not water down the bad guys. Better yet fix the bad guys we have now.
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The Krenim Empire is going to put there foots into your asses :P
Krenim FTW
and to think Red Forman was also a Federation President and Thrax
If we come into delta quadrant without having a real exploration game mechanic it will be obvious, that it will come never.
Also: the BORG as playable race? Yeah, this means STO shuts down one year after this "expansion".
So sorry, but this dev post is worst case - and this from dstahl itself - holy upkeeper of exploration hopes.
I would like to see:
- a real exploration game mechanic, in an persistent delta quadrant, which resets every 3 month, so the race restarts.
- a territory control game, which could open the way to the delta quadrant for the faction controling the wormwhole atm. (this could be integrated in suggestion 1)
- neverwinter ground combat mechanics in STO, which means making the game accessable in "combat mode". Clear out 2/3 of ground abilities.
- make skill count - increase difficulty so you really need your ship or your knowledge of how your abilities work. All(!) content atm is just firepower, firepower, firepower. Some call it Pew,pew. An other way to do this would be to improve loot in higher difficulties. Why should anyone play in higher difficulties, as it gets you nothing, but costs more time (more enemys spawn) and ingame currency to heal your injuries...
- pvp. I don`t know, why you always TRIBBLE up on pvp. You are doing it right now also in neverwinter. Classes are unbalanced, and there is still one pvp mode and two mapes?!? For months?!? Are you going to wait until every one is bored, abandons pvp play and then you state, it doesn`t pay off to improve pvp because no one plays it? Is it that hard to make a pvp map every six weeks or so?!?
We don`t need more costumes. We need new game mechanics and related content.
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you have a better way of explaining how you got there. it's called an iconian gateway.
and (2) ... The Borg can already get back and forth.
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This could lead to interesting plotlines as Viidian society tries to rebuild and handle so many damage people. The time that has passed since Voyager is too little time to fix something so massively broken.
Even if you're discussing making one of those a full fledged faction, which would shock me BTW:eek:, don't do the Borg, because to do them justice you'll have to make all of their ships uber OP. Then you'll have the other 3 factions whining for the whole eternity. And if you make Borg and scale down the power output of their ships, you will turn one of the most frightening and menacing species in Star Trek into a complete joke. I can already see a player with a JHAS owning another one in a Tactical Cube. Please don't do this, it will make more damage than good to STO.
Also, does Voyager winning the poll mean that we'll finally be getting a pack of Voyager interiors with the proper bridge and facilities in the C-Store?
More sour grapes please. The poll was to vote for which series aliens you wanted to see more of, Seven of Nine never entered into it.
I'm not seeing how the disposition of the phage has anything to do with the viability of the Viidians as a alien for STO. Voyager was moving through regions of space, it only made sense they would pass Viidian space, like they passed Kazon and Borg space.
Do to the nature of Voyager moving through vast areas of space, that series has the most possible alien cultures with minimal contact that can be expanded on. I don't see what any of that has to do with the supposed quality of Voyager as a television series.
Had Deep Space Nine won, we would likely have gotten playable Cardassians, or maybe a Changeling bridge officer, or Vorta.
Had Enterprise won, we would likely have gotten the Xindi in the game.
But, since Voyager won, we seem to be stuck on Voyager for the next year (probably Season 8 and 9 together).
Had people known they were secretly picking the direction for the next 12 months of the game, I suspect some people would have not voted for Voyager.
I love Voyager ideas for sure though!
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Gamma Orionis is further from the Delta Quadrant. Its on the edge of the galaxy near Gorn Space (Down on the map from Eta Eridani).
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and it should be pointed out all other shows. are based in the alpha+beta quadrants.
and combined they beat the delta quadrant based show. just thought i'd throw that out there. the alpha and beta quadrants need far far far much more work doing on them before heading to the gamma quadrant (easily accessible from a thing called the worm hole) or delta quadrant
Opening up the Delta Quadrant is pretty tricky, for the reasons Stahl outlined. I agree that it makes no sense to have every single player get trapped the way Voyager did, but I also find the idea of simply expanding into Delta Quadrant space rather...boring.
I guess my ideal solution is kind of a compromise between the two. Maybe our factions could discover some sort of Borg Transwarp Hub / Iconian Gateway / technological whatzit that allows them to travel far into the heart of the Delta Quadrant - too far to reach by conventional warp, but the initial mechanism of travel still works, a la the Tranwarp to Gamma Orionis.
This would be a prime opportunity to develop that new exploration system that's been discussed for the last three years...the Delta Quadrant would truly be a new frontier, Voyager having barely scratched the surface during its, well, voyage.
As far as storylines go, I think it'd be nice to encounter a political climate between various Delta factions which feels like it's existed for hundreds of years - we're constantly bumping up against conflicts and tensions which run deep, and it's hard to take sides. That would be a lot more interesting to me than yet another "superfaction" that everybody needs to unite to defeat, a la the Borg, Undine, Tal Shiar, and presumably Iconians.
I would prefer another faction with the same quality, or better, just like the Romulans.
Getting all these new player ships is great, but lately it is getting out of hand a little. I see more fed captains flying captured enemy ships than actual fed ships. at this rate it would be easier to take the fed / kdf/rom put them all together, and call it one big faction and just let everyone buy anything they want. feds can be explorers, kdf can be the warriors, roms can be the spies.
Lets see more factions with there own specific ships rather than introducing a new species and handing their ships out to the fed/kdf/rom. could even make it a 500 or 1000 zen option to switch factions to get more people into other factions.
An easier solution would be to explain that while exploring in the Gamma Quadrant (through the Bajoran Wormhole), a joint Federation/Romulan Team discovered another Stable Wormhole that leads to the Delta Quadrant.
This would not only get us there quickly, but would also give a reason for there to be more development and use of that already existing resource in the game.
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I thought it was said in series it was going to take 70/75 years not 100 ? , this is from memory so I may be wrong
I thought that few ep's dragged on to much tbh
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This sounds great, could add both voyager species and deep space nine species at the same time. could make a sort of battle between the alpha-beta/gamma/delta quadrent species. instead of faction wars it would be quadrant wars
The Kazon and the Krenim are probably logical choices. But I don't have any enthusiasm for either of them. Possibly because the Kazon are dirtbags and I haven't seen the episodes with the Krenim yet (still working through Netflix occasionally).
What happened to the Turei and the surviving Vaadwaur? Those underspace corridors sound like an excellent excuse for exploring the Delta Quadrant.
What about the Ocampa? Seems like it would be hard to tell a story about the Delta Quadrant in the post-Voyager era without dealing with that question.
The photonic lifeforms? ("Heroes and Demons", "Bride of Chaotica!", "Body and Soul", "Flesh and Blood") Seems like we have lots of options there, too.
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A Vidiian mission would make a great Halloween or Friday the 13th featured episode. A ground missions through a Vidiian ship or base would be like a shop of horrors. I would love to go up against the Vidiians in STO, if only for the sheer terror of the thought of what happens to you if you lose...
The Kazon seems unremarkable ship wise
The Vidiian post phage encounter could be interesting
The Krenim also interesting, temporal forcefields
The Malon The garbage guys?
The Hierarchy Seems meh
The Devore ? afraid of telepaths
So just by the memory alpha material if your looking for bad guys the Krenim, Possible allies post-phage then the Vidiian, the rest seem to be minor players in an sto setting used to flesh out some story lines perhaps.
Vidiian would be my vote in that case forging new alliances and all that.
And then you click 'respawn' and the whole thing is ruined. :P
I do want to point out something VERY important about the Vidiians. The Phage was apparently cured for them. In the Voyager episode Think Tank, http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Think_Tank_%28episode%29
It was said They have been able to help hundreds of clients, including the Vidiians, for whom they cured the Phage. Granted they had been underhanded... but if the Think Tank was as smart as they appeared in the show... Chances are they COULD pull it off. And I think the Vidiians would have been willing to pay any price to cure the Phage. So if you introduce the Vidiians... Remember that they may not have the Phage.
I Voted for the Malons because the first episode they were introduced, I like the idea of their garbage scows showing up to start dumping their Toxic waste in the Alpha Quadrant. Via Wormhole Far from home, out of sight out of mind. And when pointed out they are endangering lives... Sorry not our problem. Maybe even sending automated Scows to dump the radiation. Theta Radiation bombs as weapons. So an entire arc could be to locate the wormhole, Get through it... get past the Waste disposal group (Which was said The technology that recycles Theta radiation would put them out of business.)
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No body likes the idea of being put out of business, by simple technology. The Klingons would be more inclined to destroy these attackers, or make a new allie to at least convince them of the error of dumping in Klingon Space, To... encourage them to dump in federation space. Romulan republic might be interested in stopping the dumping (which could be encouraged by the Tal Shiar) in their space and getting additional trading partners.
The Federation being the do gooders they are... to help them correct the problem all together.
Can't wait to fly a Borg ship that is weaker then my current ship. What are Cubes now days like T3. Maybe the borg Tube, that's a T5 ship right.
I would love to know what happen to them. But if we go to the Delta Quadrant, I do know what will happen to them. I will be forced to slaughter them all just like I have to do with the Borg everyday.
Will they come to the Delta Quadrant to slaughter there old enemies with me?
Like the Borg are? I do not have much faith in that statement.
If you are going to take us to the Delta Quadrant please do not water down the bad guys. Better yet fix the bad guys we have now.