If all the dreadnoughts are supposed to be "balanced" like the D'Deridex is supposed to be the Romulan mirror to the Negh'var and Galaxy. Then WHY is the Scimitar about 10 times more powerful with a better tactical layout, better consoles and superior firepower. Anybody notice how ships like the Galaxy-X Dreadnought have been shafted again!
so they can push this ROMULAN agenda....thats why...:D
"buying a subscription to STO is a lot like feeding pigeons, you give them food, they give you.......well you know":rolleyes:
Then why dont you get lost. Pack up your troubles and walk away and take your nasty comment with you. Cryptic is a business. They need to make things to sell to suvive. As someone said in another thread. How do you think they survive? Selling Unicorn Farts?
I think Cryptic do an excellent job despite nasty abuse from people like you.
Thats exactly what they sold me with my Regent ship :mad:
For those saying the Thalaron blast is useless, Im not going to ever buy one, but wouldnt it be wise to travel in a wolf pack with one Scimmy and two other ships? First ship traps it with a tractor or gravity well, when that wears off the next ship tractors it, then when that wears off the Scimmy tractors it, and by that time the Death Ray has fully charged. POOF their dead.
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So has anyone in this thread tried the Scimitar yet? Have they compared it or PVPd against the Odessey, Bortas'qu, Vesta, etc.? If not, I'd like to point out that it's just a bunch of conjecture. about the abilities of the Scimitar, and trading off three console slots for a lot of special features while potentially diminishing DPS, shield & hull buffs, etc.
Although I do think that perhaps other ship sets should also have a two piece set bonus thrown in for the sake of "fairness".
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If all the dreadnoughts are supposed to be "balanced" like the D'Deridex is supposed to be the Romulan mirror to the Negh'var and Galaxy. Then WHY is the Scimitar about 10 times more powerful with a better tactical layout, better consoles and superior firepower. Anybody notice how ships like the Galaxy-X Dreadnought have been shafted again!
Why has there been no update to both Klingon and Federation Dreadnoughts (Possibly the Odyssey because its a 3 pack) to be competitive with this new ship.
Bet Cryptic won't do this... they are having too much fun milking the Romulan fanbase now. Hi Klinks, we're the Federation, we had our day but now we are going to join you in mediocrity.
The Galaxy needs a 3 pack with 5 weapons consoles as does the Neg'var , Federation ships in general need upgrades to match the romulans especially in cruisers
Romulan ships have all of the advantagers with no drawback making the federation the weakest ships in the game
plasmonic leach cancels out any power loss
We advise all of our new players to make only a romulan characters to take advantage of the benifits as soon as the join and to delete there Fed characters so they dont waste any Zen on the inferior Federation ships.
do the RIGHT thing and make a balence pass to Fed and klingon ships
We hope so
Why waste money on a ship like the Galaxy with 2 weapons consoles when you can buy one for the SAME money with 5.......... with 3x the crit chance 5x better warp core free battlecloak totally superior Boff layout
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Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
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Every time a new c store ship appears someone complains its overpowered. The complaints continue until older wiser players find and start exploiting the new ships weaknesses. Usually by that time another ship becomes the target of complaints. I have active characters both fed and kdf as well as fed/kdf aligned roms... For the record my ONLY complaint about ships for ANY faction is the rom ship selection needs some work; current selection is a bit limited. All ships; both old and new, have advantages and disadvantages. A good player finds a ship that works for them and excels in it. A GREAT player can make any ship shine... and a poor player can make any ship fail hard.
The Galaxy needs a 3 pack with 5 weapons consoles as does the Neg'var , Federation ships in general need upgrades to match the romulans especially in cruisers
Romulan ships have all of the advantagers with no drawback making the federation the weakest ships in the game
plasmonic leach cancels out any power loss
We advise all of our new players to make only a romulan characters to take advantage of the benifits as soon as the join and to delete there Fed characters so they dont waste any Zen on the inferior Federation ships.
do the RIGHT thing and make a balence pass to Fed and klingon ships
We hope so
Why waste money on a ship like the Galaxy with 2 weapons consoles when you can buy one for the SAME money with 5.......... with 3x the crit chance 5x better warp core free battlecloak totally superior Boff layout
I totally agree with you, as leader of the only Fleet that outright bans lockbox ships (because we like our players to be good WITHOUT the P2W element) we feel that the Romulans have been given far too much.
The insignifcant power problems with the romulans are nothing compared to the advantages of the "double shields" singularity abilities, among others but I told my Fleet to prepare for this anyway, thats why we avoid recruiting romulans.
If all the dreadnoughts are supposed to be "balanced" like the D'Deridex is supposed to be the Romulan mirror to the Negh'var and Galaxy. Then WHY is the Scimitar about 10 times more powerful with a better tactical layout, better consoles and superior firepower. Anybody notice how ships like the Galaxy-X Dreadnought have been shafted again!
Why has there been no update to both Klingon and Federation Dreadnoughts (Possibly the Odyssey because its a 3 pack) to be competitive with this new ship.
Bet Cryptic won't do this... they are having too much fun milking the Romulan fanbase now. Hi Klinks, we're the Federation, we had our day but now we are going to join you in mediocrity.
The Gal-X is not a fleet/premium level ship. It is an old purchase. I'm sorry its your favorite ship and its sub-par, but lots of people are in the exact same position. Also keep in mind, there is no reason for fleets to start making Gal-X's. It is not the federation dreadnaught (that would be the Typhoon). The Gal-X is some weird alternate timeline version of the galaxy, so not only is the design out of date, noone in our universe ever built it.
The Gal-X is not a fleet/premium level ship. It is an old purchase. I'm sorry its your favorite ship and its sub-par, but lots of people are in the exact same position. Also keep in mind, there is no reason for fleets to start making Gal-X's. It is not the federation dreadnaught (that would be the Typhoon). The Gal-X is some weird alternate timeline version of the galaxy, so not only is the design out of date, noone in our universe ever built it.
Well I would fly a Galaxy but unfortunately, Cryptic ***** that ship as well. Sorry but I won't fly an Excelsior, completely inappropriate for the time period and its a horribly overrated vessel.
I would agree with the first post to be fair.
I'm an engineer my role is to tank and heal but the fact is no matter what I try to do to stay competitive I cant.
Cruisers and engineers get shafted no matter what, Sci officers can heal and tank just as well if not better then eng, tactical officers can sit and laugh in your face with there over powered healing and dmg.
There are so many things that make the engineers useless in this game and its very unfair in that respect.
The oddy the Glaxay Dread and some other cruisers need upgrades to make them competitive again.
I just know when ever I want to join a PVP from today i'm going to be looking at 3 scmiters (sorry about spelling) waiting to tare my hull apart. The Engineers special ability Merical worker needs to be a Heal that can be throw around even with the new trait its useless.
The Galaxy needs a 3 pack with 5 weapons consoles as does the Neg'var , Federation ships in general need upgrades to match the romulans especially in cruisers
Romulan ships have all of the advantagers with no drawback making the federation the weakest ships in the game
plasmonic leach cancels out any power loss
We advise all of our new players to make only a romulan characters to take advantage of the benifits as soon as the join and to delete there Fed characters so they dont waste any Zen on the inferior Federation ships.
do the RIGHT thing and make a balence pass to Fed and klingon ships
We hope so
Why waste money on a ship like the Galaxy with 2 weapons consoles when you can buy one for the SAME money with 5.......... with 3x the crit chance 5x better warp core free battlecloak totally superior Boff layout
Ugh. Please stop asking for a galaxy with tac consoles and stations. You have other ships for that. The galaxy should be the very model of an engineering ship. That is what it is, deal with it. If you want to deal damage and kill lots of stuff, don't play a galaxy, that is not the purpose as designed nor should it ever be.
If you're fed and you want the ability to blast things out of the water, try the Kumari or the (Fleet) Armitage. Both of those ships are unique among the other factions in capabilities and awesomeness.
Also, the "plasmonic leech cancels out any power loss" argument is stupid, because everyone can use plasmonic leech and get more benefit out of it than the Romulans do because they dont have to dig themselves out of the whole created by the overall gimicky and not super useful singularity powers.
BTW, I don't understand what you mean by better warp core. Matter/Antimatter cores are much better than singularity cores and give much stronger and generally useful passive bonuses.
If you want cruisers (or science vessels) to be better, try and address the issue and get engineering powers re-balanced, rather than try to get all the cruisers turned into escorts.
Folks that go shelling out the $50 or so to get the pack are paying for what they hope MAY be an advantage, but are really paying to get a really cool looking ship to play.
Actually, that is precisely why I am getting it - because it looks cool. I could care less about stats on a z-store ship. As with all other z-store ships that people cry are supposedly "overpowered", I will log onto my KDF Tac, who is running all default in-game gear with not a single item from the store, and blow them away in less than 3 seconds of uncloaking.
People need to realize that stats mean absolutely nothing in an MMO unless the player knows how to . . . well . . . play. I could take a ship with crappy stats and literally own a lot of PvP players who THINK they are powerful because they have a z-store ship with a cool console . . . and I am not even a PvPer. I am just a casual. So while this WILL offend a lot of players, I could care less because this is common sense gaming observation.
So why pop 50 bucks? Because it's really bloody cheap and the skin looks sweet XD.
Ugh. Please stop asking for a galaxy with tac consoles and stations. You have other ships for that. The galaxy should be the very model of an engineering ship. That is what it is, deal with it. If you want to deal damage and kill lots of stuff, don't play a galaxy, that is not the purpose as designed nor should it ever be.
If you're fed and you want the ability to blast things out of the water, try the Kumari or the (Fleet) Armitage. Both of those ships are unique among the other factions in capabilities and awesomeness.
Also, the "plasmonic leech cancels out any power loss" argument is stupid, because everyone can use plasmonic leech and get more benefit out of it than the Romulans do because they dont have to dig themselves out of the whole created by the overall gimicky and not super useful singularity powers.
BTW, I don't understand what you mean by better warp core. Matter/Antimatter cores are much better than singularity cores and give much stronger and generally useful passive bonuses.
Except ENGINEERING is POINTLESS when all the content in the game is DPS based! Stop beating us over the head with a point that we are ALREADY AWARE OF. The Galaxy sucks because it had no firepower, it doesn't preform in PvP, anything less then 3 tactical consoles do and having an over-abundance of hull is POINTLESS compared to Shields which is in the department of the Vesta...
Nobody wants the Galaxy to be a god-ship, what we want is a combat capable one that reflects the adaptability and versatility of the ORIGINAL CLASS. The Galaxy was the FIRST ship to have a modular design... Hell if Cryptic can't do that... then just give us the f**king New Orleans!
I am tired of actual fans of the Next Generation get shafted by Cryptic because they have a hard on for Deep Space Nine.
Well I would fly a Galaxy but unfortunately, Cryptic ***** that ship as well. Sorry but I won't fly an Excelsior, completely inappropriate for the time period and its a horribly overrated vessel.
Excelsior is probably the best Fed cruiser in the game... I have a Fleet Excelsior and Fleet Galaxy and they're both fine at doing exactly what they're meant to do... It's the tardmongers that use X as Y and then complain when X isn't Y...
For the most part I think both of these ships match canon pretty well... The Excelsior can go toe-to-toe with a Defiant just like in the show and a Galaxy can get taken out by a single BoP just like in the movies...
People need to realize that stats mean absolutely nothing in an MMO unless the player knows how to . . . well . . . play. I could take a ship with crappy stats and literally own a lot of PvP players who THINK they are powerful because they have a z-store ship with a cool console . . . and I am not even a PvPer. I am just a casual. So while this WILL offend a lot of players, I could care less because this is common sense gaming observation.
So why pop 50 bucks? Because it's really bloody cheap and the skin looks sweet XD.
Then the PvP players you are facing really don't know how to PvP. I don't run P2W equipment - and I have the option of equipping my Tachyokinetic, PDS, AMS, Grappler, Cloaking Device, Thermionic Torpedo, Tholian console from the Recluse, Saucer Separation... But I don't. Because, most of the time, those consoles do not help me.
And it sure would be nice to have the money to splurge into the game. Try grinding like the rest of us.
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Actually, that is precisely why I am getting it - because it looks cool. I could care less about stats on a z-store ship. As with all other z-store ships that people cry are supposedly "overpowered", I will log onto my KDF Tac, who is running all default in-game gear with not a single item from the store, and blow them away in less than 3 seconds of uncloaking.
People need to realize that stats mean absolutely nothing in an MMO unless the player knows how to . . . well . . . play. I could take a ship with crappy stats and literally own a lot of PvP players who THINK they are powerful because they have a z-store ship with a cool console . . . and I am not even a PvPer. I am just a casual. So while this WILL offend a lot of players, I could care less because this is common sense gaming observation.
So why pop 50 bucks? Because it's really bloody cheap and the skin looks sweet XD.
If you are not a pvp'er then you have no idea what pvp is like, it is completely different to PVE and STF the setups are different.
So you saying u could blow people away is most likely untrue, I know people that have dedicated all there time into pvp and setups and can most likely blow you apart by just blowing heavily on your hull please don't make a comment like that unless you know what your talking about please.
Excelsior is probably the best Fed cruiser in the game... I have a Fleet Excelsior and Fleet Galaxy and they're both fine at doing exactly what they're meant to do... It's the tardmongers that use X as Y and then complain when X isn't Y...
For the most part I think both of these ships match canon pretty well... The Excelsior can go toe-to-toe with a Defiant just like in the show and a Galaxy can get taken out by a single BoP just like in the movies...
You are an absolute idiot that probably has no idea about Star Trek. The Enterprise was destroyed by bad writing and bad command from Riker (Firing one phaser back at the BoP... Ok then, thats normal)... I seem to remember the Galaxy went toe to toe with a Borg Cube and survived... more then can be said for the Excelsior... How many were lost at Wolf 359.
Hell, the Melbourne was an Excelsior Class and was easily swatted by a Borg Cube. Riker would be dead and the Enterprise-D would still be in service.
More damage potential? There are no 5 tact consoles raptors and none of the battlecruisers support a double aux2bat+APO 1 build (unless you wanna try a tor'kaht without sci skills in pvp).
Plus the only 2 battlecruisers coming with 4 (or more) tactical consoles are the fleet tor'kaht and the bortas, sure you can try cannons on the tor'kaht but it's nowhere as good as a real tanky escort like the somraw.
And finally the probably best 2a2b beam boat (in my opinion the fleet k'tinga, the kamarag having a laughable 25 inertia rating to help it bleeding defense) has only 3 tact consoles and lower hull than some escorts. Now compare it to fleet Excelsior and fleet assault cruiser...
Well appart of a bortas alpha strike I don't see how KDF ships have more damage potential
EDIT : obviously I am talking about pvp because the bortas is probably awesome in pve.
Yeah, I should have specified that I mean cruisers are slightly better, rather than just ships in general, sorry about that.
AtB isn't something I run anymore. Despite what everyone seems to think, its not the end all/be all of cruiser spec, so its hard to base my current value of ships on that set-up. I do run a fleet Excelsior though, and honestly, I would kill for a fleet vorcha equivalent on fed side. For the build I run, in my opinion it is the best cruiser pre-LoR.
Turn rate matters, and for the most part, KDF is slightly better in that regard. The trade-off is lower hull. As I said, I don't look at KDF cruisers as OP, just slightly better. A few are on par.
My point was that the trade-offs between fed and KDF were there. Cannons and turn vs. higher hull. Now with romulan ships, the little tid bits that we could debate back and forth are out the window because the romulan ships outclass both Fed and KDF by a slight margin. Scimitar (mind you with all 3 consoles) now outclasses even the current romulan ships by a slight margin.
Just nervous about the power creep only affecting one faction right now. Feds do have a lot more ships, sure, but many of them have been rendered sub-par, even pre LoR. Dreadnaught, Sabre, Aquarius, Heavy Cruiser, Galaxy, Star Cruiser, D'Kyr, Kitty Carrier, LRSV, just to name a few.
You are an absolute idiot that probably has no idea about Star Trek. The Enterprise was destroyed by bad writing and bad command from Riker (Firing one phaser back at the BoP... Ok then, thats normal)... I seem to remember the Galaxy went toe to toe with a Borg Cube and survived... more then can be said for the Excelsior... How many were lost at Wolf 359.
Hell, the Melbourne was an Excelsior Class and was easily swatted by a Borg Cube. Riker would be dead and the Enterprise-D would still be in service.
So go away if you can't say anything sensible.
Actually, if you're going to call him an idiot, which is kind of harsh by the way, you should look at the Dominion war as well. There were a lot of Excelsior class ships in that fight that were destroyed, but there were quite a few Galaxy and Ambassador class ships that were lost too.
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And the enterprise went (as quoted before) toe to toe with that ship and barley survived the encounter.
But from what I've read and seen the cruiser will be completely blown away by this ship in pvp making it to over powered or the cruisers are to under powered.
Something needs to change to keep players like the engineers competitive and still in the running.
And the enterprise went (as quoted before) toe to toe with that ship and barley survived the encounter.
But from what I've read and seen the cruiser will be completely blown away by this ship in pvp making it to over powered or the cruisers are to under powered.
Something needs to change to keep players like the engineers competitive and in still in the running.
It kinda shows really, who's a Star Trek fan and whose not. People who think this ship is "good" and not "OP" because of the amount of guns it has on it. As many fans will know, most ships encountered in Star Trek have some advantage on Starfleet vessels and yet, they still manage to overcome it through unconventional means... in this game... its just not possible to do that.
The truth must hurt or you make excuses? Passive aggressive. Poster was stating his opinion and you said he was being nasty? Where? Pls enlighten the board with more of your ignorance.
Oman, the ignorance infesting and infecting the emo knee-jerk reactions to the Scimitar are just about priceless.
You are an absolute idiot that probably has no idea about Star Trek. The Enterprise was destroyed by bad writing and bad command from Riker (Firing one phaser back at the BoP... Ok then, thats normal)... I seem to remember the Galaxy went toe to toe with a Borg Cube and survived... more then can be said for the Excelsior... How many were lost at Wolf 359.
Hell, the Melbourne was an Excelsior Class and was easily swatted by a Borg Cube. Riker would be dead and the Enterprise-D would still be in service.
So go away if you can't say anything sensible.
Ummm... I don't know about went toe-to-toe with a Cube and survived as much as it dinked and dunked and ran (kinda like Feds in PvP) and then blew it up when those same writers deus ex machina-ed and put the drones all into a regen state...
So now we're picking and choosing which writing in canon is good and which is bad for the purpose of our own biases... Cool, wonder if there's a logical fallacy for that... I bet there is...
Look dude, the Excelsior is just so much more superior than the Galaxy... I mean, it's not even close really when you think about it... But wouldn't you agree that's how it should be... The Galaxy looks and performs like a pancake and the Excelsior looks and performs like a corvette, nothing to be upset about... Not everyone can play quaterback, it isn't a big deal bro...
And the enterprise went (as quoted before) toe to toe with that ship and barley survived the encounter.
But from what I've read and seen the cruiser will be completely blown away by this ship in pvp making it to over powered or the cruisers are to under powered.
Something needs to change to keep players like the engineers competitive and still in the running.
won't make any cruiser underpowered.
with evasive manuvers you can evade the pulse.... and duh, it takes 12secs to charge
and about the number of weps, it's fair. i expected 6/2 tbh
To boldly go where no FAWer has ever FAWed before.
Ummm... I don't know about went toe-to-toe with a Cube and survived as much as it dinked and dunked and ran (kinda like Feds in PvP) and then blew it up when those same writers deus ex machina-ed and put the drones all into a regen state...
So now we're picking and choosing which writing in canon is good and which is bad for the purpose of our own biases... Cool, wonder if there's a logical fallacy for that... I bet there is...
Look dude, the Excelsior is just so much more superior than the Galaxy... I mean, it's not even close really when you think about it... But wouldn't you agree that's how it should be... The Galaxy looks and performs like a pancake and the Excelsior looks and performs like a corvette, nothing to be upset about... Not everyone can play quaterback, it isn't a big deal bro...
Wow, you take stupid to a whole new level. The Excelsior is ONLY powerful in this game because of Geko's stupid hard-on for it. Personally I think he should have been fired a long time ago... The Galaxy is superior to the Excelsior because its a newer design. It has better firepower, engines, shields and science PERIOD!
Check memory alpha or the technical manual if you do not believe me. Stop contesting stuff that is fact and just except that Cryptic are doing it wrong and they have been from the beginning.
Obviously as a KDF Player... your opinion is null and void.
Then the PvP players you are facing really don't know how to PvP. I don't run P2W equipment - and I have the option of equipping my Tachyokinetic, PDS, AMS, Grappler, Cloaking Device, Thermionic Torpedo, Tholian console from the Recluse, Saucer Separation... But I don't. Because, most of the time, those consoles do not help me.
And it sure would be nice to have the money to splurge into the game. Try grinding like the rest of us.
If you are not a pvp'er then you have no idea what pvp is like, it is completely different to PVE and STF the setups are different.
So you saying u could blow people away is most likely untrue, I know people that have dedicated all there time into pvp and setups and can most likely blow you apart by just blowing heavily on your hull please don't make a comment like that unless you know what your talking about please.
You guys both, of course, missed my point completely, as was expected. The point was z-store ships do NOT give an advantage in game-play. The original post of this thread makes it seem like z-store ships are "pay-to-win". They aren't. A ship is only as good as the player. However I knew for a fact that no one would see that message at all. It's just not possible for people to read the point of a post instead of trying to read into it to find something that offends or contradicts them
stardestroyer001 - based on what you wrote, you and I agree, but you misread my post to be thinking precisely the opposite. I said specifically that I don;t use the equipment from these ships . . . I just use them for skins. The equipment is silly and stupid and the default gear available for us as drops in game, IF equipped properly, is FAR superior to anything available in the store
It kinda shows really, who's a Star Trek fan and whose not. People who think this ship is "good" and not "OP" because of the amount of guns it has on it. As many fans will know, most ships encountered in Star Trek have some advantage on Starfleet vessels and yet, they still manage to overcome it through unconventional means... in this game... its just not possible to do that.
lol don't think me rude i'm not to sure what to say to that friend, was that a dig at me for my comment or was you agreeing with me.
just for clarification everyone is entitled to there opinion.
lol don't think me rude i'm not to sure what to say to that friend, was that a dig at me for my comment or was you agreeing with me.
just for clarification everyone is entitled to there opinion.
I was actually agreeing with you, bigger guns appeal to stupid people because they do not know how to be clever so they do the whole "bull in a china shop". Escorts in PvP do it all the time, zoom off and get themselves killed and then cry because they didn't have the foresight to consider strategy.
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so they can push this ROMULAN agenda....thats why...:D
Thats exactly what they sold me with my Regent ship :mad:
For those saying the Thalaron blast is useless, Im not going to ever buy one, but wouldnt it be wise to travel in a wolf pack with one Scimmy and two other ships? First ship traps it with a tractor or gravity well, when that wears off the next ship tractors it, then when that wears off the Scimmy tractors it, and by that time the Death Ray has fully charged. POOF their dead.
Capt. Will Conquest of the U.S.S. Crusader
Although I do think that perhaps other ship sets should also have a two piece set bonus thrown in for the sake of "fairness".
I don't care how long you've been playing. I only care about how you play.
And remember to follow the rules.
The Galaxy needs a 3 pack with 5 weapons consoles as does the Neg'var , Federation ships in general need upgrades to match the romulans especially in cruisers
Romulan ships have all of the advantagers with no drawback making the federation the weakest ships in the game
plasmonic leach cancels out any power loss
We advise all of our new players to make only a romulan characters to take advantage of the benifits as soon as the join and to delete there Fed characters so they dont waste any Zen on the inferior Federation ships.
do the RIGHT thing and make a balence pass to Fed and klingon ships
We hope so
Why waste money on a ship like the Galaxy with 2 weapons consoles when you can buy one for the SAME money with 5.......... with 3x the crit chance 5x better warp core free battlecloak totally superior Boff layout
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
I totally agree with you, as leader of the only Fleet that outright bans lockbox ships (because we like our players to be good WITHOUT the P2W element) we feel that the Romulans have been given far too much.
The insignifcant power problems with the romulans are nothing compared to the advantages of the "double shields" singularity abilities, among others but I told my Fleet to prepare for this anyway, thats why we avoid recruiting romulans.
The Gal-X is not a fleet/premium level ship. It is an old purchase. I'm sorry its your favorite ship and its sub-par, but lots of people are in the exact same position. Also keep in mind, there is no reason for fleets to start making Gal-X's. It is not the federation dreadnaught (that would be the Typhoon). The Gal-X is some weird alternate timeline version of the galaxy, so not only is the design out of date, noone in our universe ever built it.
Well I would fly a Galaxy but unfortunately, Cryptic ***** that ship as well. Sorry but I won't fly an Excelsior, completely inappropriate for the time period and its a horribly overrated vessel.
I'm an engineer my role is to tank and heal but the fact is no matter what I try to do to stay competitive I cant.
Cruisers and engineers get shafted no matter what, Sci officers can heal and tank just as well if not better then eng, tactical officers can sit and laugh in your face with there over powered healing and dmg.
There are so many things that make the engineers useless in this game and its very unfair in that respect.
The oddy the Glaxay Dread and some other cruisers need upgrades to make them competitive again.
I just know when ever I want to join a PVP from today i'm going to be looking at 3 scmiters (sorry about spelling) waiting to tare my hull apart. The Engineers special ability Merical worker needs to be a Heal that can be throw around even with the new trait its useless.
Ugh. Please stop asking for a galaxy with tac consoles and stations. You have other ships for that. The galaxy should be the very model of an engineering ship. That is what it is, deal with it. If you want to deal damage and kill lots of stuff, don't play a galaxy, that is not the purpose as designed nor should it ever be.
If you're fed and you want the ability to blast things out of the water, try the Kumari or the (Fleet) Armitage. Both of those ships are unique among the other factions in capabilities and awesomeness.
Also, the "plasmonic leech cancels out any power loss" argument is stupid, because everyone can use plasmonic leech and get more benefit out of it than the Romulans do because they dont have to dig themselves out of the whole created by the overall gimicky and not super useful singularity powers.
BTW, I don't understand what you mean by better warp core. Matter/Antimatter cores are much better than singularity cores and give much stronger and generally useful passive bonuses.
If you want cruisers (or science vessels) to be better, try and address the issue and get engineering powers re-balanced, rather than try to get all the cruisers turned into escorts.
Actually, that is precisely why I am getting it - because it looks cool. I could care less about stats on a z-store ship. As with all other z-store ships that people cry are supposedly "overpowered", I will log onto my KDF Tac, who is running all default in-game gear with not a single item from the store, and blow them away in less than 3 seconds of uncloaking.
People need to realize that stats mean absolutely nothing in an MMO unless the player knows how to . . . well . . . play. I could take a ship with crappy stats and literally own a lot of PvP players who THINK they are powerful because they have a z-store ship with a cool console . . . and I am not even a PvPer. I am just a casual. So while this WILL offend a lot of players, I could care less because this is common sense gaming observation.
So why pop 50 bucks? Because it's really bloody cheap and the skin looks sweet XD.
Except ENGINEERING is POINTLESS when all the content in the game is DPS based! Stop beating us over the head with a point that we are ALREADY AWARE OF. The Galaxy sucks because it had no firepower, it doesn't preform in PvP, anything less then 3 tactical consoles do and having an over-abundance of hull is POINTLESS compared to Shields which is in the department of the Vesta...
Nobody wants the Galaxy to be a god-ship, what we want is a combat capable one that reflects the adaptability and versatility of the ORIGINAL CLASS. The Galaxy was the FIRST ship to have a modular design... Hell if Cryptic can't do that... then just give us the f**king New Orleans!
I am tired of actual fans of the Next Generation get shafted by Cryptic because they have a hard on for Deep Space Nine.
Excelsior is probably the best Fed cruiser in the game... I have a Fleet Excelsior and Fleet Galaxy and they're both fine at doing exactly what they're meant to do... It's the tardmongers that use X as Y and then complain when X isn't Y...
For the most part I think both of these ships match canon pretty well... The Excelsior can go toe-to-toe with a Defiant just like in the show and a Galaxy can get taken out by a single BoP just like in the movies...
Then the PvP players you are facing really don't know how to PvP. I don't run P2W equipment - and I have the option of equipping my Tachyokinetic, PDS, AMS, Grappler, Cloaking Device, Thermionic Torpedo, Tholian console from the Recluse, Saucer Separation... But I don't. Because, most of the time, those consoles do not help me.
And it sure would be nice to have the money to splurge into the game. Try grinding like the rest of us.
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If you are not a pvp'er then you have no idea what pvp is like, it is completely different to PVE and STF the setups are different.
So you saying u could blow people away is most likely untrue, I know people that have dedicated all there time into pvp and setups and can most likely blow you apart by just blowing heavily on your hull please don't make a comment like that unless you know what your talking about please.
You are an absolute idiot that probably has no idea about Star Trek. The Enterprise was destroyed by bad writing and bad command from Riker (Firing one phaser back at the BoP... Ok then, thats normal)... I seem to remember the Galaxy went toe to toe with a Borg Cube and survived... more then can be said for the Excelsior... How many were lost at Wolf 359.
Hell, the Melbourne was an Excelsior Class and was easily swatted by a Borg Cube. Riker would be dead and the Enterprise-D would still be in service.
So go away if you can't say anything sensible.
Yeah, I should have specified that I mean cruisers are slightly better, rather than just ships in general, sorry about that.
AtB isn't something I run anymore. Despite what everyone seems to think, its not the end all/be all of cruiser spec, so its hard to base my current value of ships on that set-up. I do run a fleet Excelsior though, and honestly, I would kill for a fleet vorcha equivalent on fed side. For the build I run, in my opinion it is the best cruiser pre-LoR.
Turn rate matters, and for the most part, KDF is slightly better in that regard. The trade-off is lower hull. As I said, I don't look at KDF cruisers as OP, just slightly better. A few are on par.
My point was that the trade-offs between fed and KDF were there. Cannons and turn vs. higher hull. Now with romulan ships, the little tid bits that we could debate back and forth are out the window because the romulan ships outclass both Fed and KDF by a slight margin. Scimitar (mind you with all 3 consoles) now outclasses even the current romulan ships by a slight margin.
Just nervous about the power creep only affecting one faction right now. Feds do have a lot more ships, sure, but many of them have been rendered sub-par, even pre LoR. Dreadnaught, Sabre, Aquarius, Heavy Cruiser, Galaxy, Star Cruiser, D'Kyr, Kitty Carrier, LRSV, just to name a few.
Actually, if you're going to call him an idiot, which is kind of harsh by the way, you should look at the Dominion war as well. There were a lot of Excelsior class ships in that fight that were destroyed, but there were quite a few Galaxy and Ambassador class ships that were lost too.
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Was that before or after it was blown up and the Enterprise-E survived it... Oh yes, over abundance of guns wins every time... give me a break.
And the enterprise went (as quoted before) toe to toe with that ship and barley survived the encounter.
But from what I've read and seen the cruiser will be completely blown away by this ship in pvp making it to over powered or the cruisers are to under powered.
Something needs to change to keep players like the engineers competitive and still in the running.
It kinda shows really, who's a Star Trek fan and whose not. People who think this ship is "good" and not "OP" because of the amount of guns it has on it. As many fans will know, most ships encountered in Star Trek have some advantage on Starfleet vessels and yet, they still manage to overcome it through unconventional means... in this game... its just not possible to do that.
Oman, the ignorance infesting and infecting the emo knee-jerk reactions to the Scimitar are just about priceless.
Ummm... I don't know about went toe-to-toe with a Cube and survived as much as it dinked and dunked and ran (kinda like Feds in PvP) and then blew it up when those same writers deus ex machina-ed and put the drones all into a regen state...
So now we're picking and choosing which writing in canon is good and which is bad for the purpose of our own biases... Cool, wonder if there's a logical fallacy for that... I bet there is...
Look dude, the Excelsior is just so much more superior than the Galaxy... I mean, it's not even close really when you think about it... But wouldn't you agree that's how it should be... The Galaxy looks and performs like a pancake and the Excelsior looks and performs like a corvette, nothing to be upset about... Not everyone can play quaterback, it isn't a big deal bro...
won't make any cruiser underpowered.
with evasive manuvers you can evade the pulse.... and duh, it takes 12secs to charge
and about the number of weps, it's fair. i expected 6/2 tbh
Wow, you take stupid to a whole new level. The Excelsior is ONLY powerful in this game because of Geko's stupid hard-on for it. Personally I think he should have been fired a long time ago... The Galaxy is superior to the Excelsior because its a newer design. It has better firepower, engines, shields and science PERIOD!
Check memory alpha or the technical manual if you do not believe me. Stop contesting stuff that is fact and just except that Cryptic are doing it wrong and they have been from the beginning.
Obviously as a KDF Player... your opinion is null and void.
You guys both, of course, missed my point completely, as was expected. The point was z-store ships do NOT give an advantage in game-play. The original post of this thread makes it seem like z-store ships are "pay-to-win". They aren't. A ship is only as good as the player. However I knew for a fact that no one would see that message at all. It's just not possible for people to read the point of a post instead of trying to read into it to find something that offends or contradicts them
stardestroyer001 - based on what you wrote, you and I agree, but you misread my post to be thinking precisely the opposite. I said specifically that I don;t use the equipment from these ships . . . I just use them for skins. The equipment is silly and stupid and the default gear available for us as drops in game, IF equipped properly, is FAR superior to anything available in the store
lol don't think me rude i'm not to sure what to say to that friend, was that a dig at me for my comment or was you agreeing with me.
just for clarification everyone is entitled to there opinion.
I was actually agreeing with you, bigger guns appeal to stupid people because they do not know how to be clever so they do the whole "bull in a china shop". Escorts in PvP do it all the time, zoom off and get themselves killed and then cry because they didn't have the foresight to consider strategy.