If that ever happened, kerrat would die out very quickly. First of all, cryptic would be forced to implement it as a queue mission. Why? Well for the simple reason that feds outnumber the kdf like what... 1000 to 1? If left as is currently, kdf will be spawn camped to death, doesn't matter how bad fed fail builds are.
Well, the solution to the spawn camping problem would be this: Program in 3-4 respawn sites for each 'side'. Have the game randomly select which one you respawn at. All the sudden, it's a hell of a lot harder to spawn-camp the opponent. You'd have to cover all the spawnpoints, which makes it harder to bring overwhelming firepower to bear.
My PvP toon is Krov, of The House of Snoo. Beware of my Hegh'ta of doom.
You know what we need to keep the poor little Feddies on track that this is a PvP zone? All those juicy PvP dilithium missions the Klingons get. Kill x number of Klingon ships, die x number of times, good luck charm, stuff like that. Do that and I think the Feds would stop thinking of it as a PvE zone where they can get ganked, and as an actual WAR zone. Which it is.
At least they will find it much easier to get their "die 25 times" daily than my KDF toon does :P
Just out of interest, I decided to see how broken Klingon ships are.
Attacked a klink player "Peaches". 80% of the shots missed, and he just sailed out of range. My ship turns and he attacks. I timed it- dead in 4 seconds.
And that's not overpowered or cheating using a script? Ah well, just another loser reported to cryptic.
Just out of interest, I decided to see how broken Klingon ships are.
Attacked a klink player "Peaches". 80% of the shots missed, and he just sailed out of range. My ship turns and he attacks. I timed it- dead in 4 seconds.
And that's not overpowered or cheating using a script? Ah well, just another loser reported to cryptic.
Fed ships can do the same thing I've seen it more then a few times. It has nothing to do with "how broken Klingon ships are." A lot of people go in there under geared or under skilled compared to what everyone else is and get nuked. I have had fed ships drop me with my shields completely intact I am not going to call them cheaters. Google and find out what to do differently if your going to PvP. :P
Just out of interest, I decided to see how broken Klingon ships are.
Attacked a klink player "Peaches". 80% of the shots missed, and he just sailed out of range. My ship turns and he attacks. I timed it- dead in 4 seconds.
And that's not overpowered or cheating using a script? Ah well, just another loser reported to cryptic.
Simple method of checking if he's cheating. What buffs did you have up - during both attack and defense phase?
Do you have any accuracy traits/weapon mods? 80% miss....based on combatlog or impression?
It is pretty easy to tell whether someone is truly cheating or not based on your answers to these questions.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, although most people with such testimonies have been shown to have vastly inferior builds.
So, details please?
Edit: Come to think of it, though, there isn't much point in using scripts if you can already set multi-keybinds in-game.
The typical Klink ship is outfitted with every advantage in the game. Universal/lock-box consoles, elite fleet shields/weapons and the best consoles/boffs/doffs in the game. They also are quite fond of the 'cheesy' abilities like the shockwave, the jamming and the virals.
In comparison the typical Fed ship would be outfitted for PvE which is far more lenient in terms of kit and abilities. At the endgame it's usually kit from the reputations, and perhaps green/blue mk xi/xii consoles. Some players don't even stick to a single energy type.
So one meets the other in Ker'rat, the under-equipped one get's vaporised in seconds and then whines in zone chat that they cheat, it's scripts and blah blah blah. In reality they are just better prepared than you.
Just out of interest, I decided to see how broken Klingon ships are.
Attacked a klink player "Peaches". 80% of the shots missed, and he just sailed out of range. My ship turns and he attacks. I timed it- dead in 4 seconds.
And that's not overpowered or cheating using a script? Ah well, just another loser reported to cryptic.
Lol...klingon ships are broken? seriously?
Let me illuminate what happened:
1. you likely had no accuracy modifiers or, heaven forbid, you never 99'd the skill
2. Said klingon was likely using evasive, aux2damp or even a double pattern omega for bonus speed/defence buffs
In other words lack of accuracy stat meets extremely high defensive statistic from movement - hence why so many shots missed
Now lets move to the 'dead in 4 seconds' - this is known as an alpha strike - in other words, a tac lined up every damage buff ability they had and hit you with it all at once - considering your lack of knowledge, as neither tac team not even an epts to mitigate shield consumption were running, it was straight through the shield to the hull at full damage
Federation tactical players too have this ability - so klingon ships are not broken - your knowledge of the game however made the ship appear broken by sheer lack of knowledge on your part lending the klingon 'Peaches' a horrendously simple kill
Just out of interest, I decided to see how broken Klingon ships are.
Attacked a klink player "Peaches". 80% of the shots missed, and he just sailed out of range. My ship turns and he attacks. I timed it- dead in 4 seconds.
And that's not overpowered or cheating using a script? Ah well, just another loser reported to cryptic.
Your bad at PvP so the KDF must be cheating???????
Thats just the sort of logic Ive come to expect from some feds.......
Just out of interest, I decided to see how broken Klingon ships are.
Attacked a klink player "Peaches". 80% of the shots missed, and he just sailed out of range. My ship turns and he attacks. I timed it- dead in 4 seconds.
And that's not overpowered or cheating using a script? Ah well, just another loser reported to cryptic.
Oh hey, it's the guy who hates PVP in all forms, and thinks it should be deleted from STO because he's personally not good at it.
By the way, I'm a Fed, and my record is 3 klingon player ships destroyed with a single torp spread III. Who's overpowered now?
There's a loser here, all right... it's the one who reports other players to Cryptic for being better than him.
I expect it...you wouldn't believe the accusations I've had in kerrat - well you likely would, thinking about it
In the end though its like life - if you are not educated, everyone else who does has the advantage
I merely expect more intelligence from the playerbase in regards to how things work in STO.
Since the game has PvP bootcamp and numerous threads on all aspects of PvP gameplay the continuing "KDF is OP" whine is truelly a poor attempt at sabotage.
He needs to educate himself instead crying from a place of ignorance.
I merely expect more intelligence from the playerbase in regards to how things work in STO.
Since the game has PvP bootcamp and numerous threads on all aspects of PvP gameplay the continuing "KDF is OP" whine is truelly a poor attempt at sabotage.
He needs to educate himself instead crying from a place of ignorance.
This made me smile, you sir are very amusing. "I expect more intelligence from the playerbase" Hahahaha, thanks for the laugh.:D
Well, I encountered something unusual in Kerrat today: a sourpuss Klingon! He accused me of exploits after I nuked him and his friends a few times using my now-legendary torpedo death ship. Here's to you, KB5000!
(Just because you've been using DHCs for so long, you've convinced yourself no other weapon can work... doesn't mean it's actually true
Well, I encountered something unusual in Kerrat today: a sourpuss Klingon! He accused me of exploits after I nuked him and his friends a few times using my now-legendary torpedo death ship.
torpedo death ship? now that's a build i wouldn't mind looking over; things like that are always more interesting than the same old boring cannon cookiee-cutter builds
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torpedo death ship? now that's a build i wouldn't mind looking over; things like that are always more interesting than the same old boring cannon cookiee-cutter builds
Fleet advanced escort. Two advanced fleet quantums, fore and aft. 5x 30% quantum damage tac consoles. 2-piece adapted MACO bonus (25% torp/mine dmg). Rule 62 console bonus (11% torp/mine dmg). Main offensive ability: Torpedo Spread III + II.
Other weapons/offensive abilities include AP DHC + DBB for shield popping (pair of BO I and one CRF I), isometric charge, and gravity well. 6 points in particle emitters, 6 points in starship sensors. Other goodies equipped include tachyokinetic converter, borg and romulan universal consoles, and a subspace field modulator. 3 Romulan crit boffs as well.
If I fire my torp spread, and you're in range... it doesn't matter if you move out of range, cloak, or evade... they'll catch you. Spreads do not miss. I'd say a good half of my kills are Klingons who obligingly turned off their shields and cloaked with a buttload of my torps on their tail. The coolest thing about this setup is how frequently it scores multi-kills. The sight of 3 klinks exploding from a single torp spread is just beautiful.
Well, I encountered something unusual in Kerrat today: a sourpuss Klingon! He accused me of exploits after I nuked him and his friends a few times using my now-legendary torpedo death ship. Here's to you, KB5000!
(Just because you've been using DHCs for so long, you've convinced yourself no other weapon can work... doesn't mean it's actually true
Thank Kahless he didnt come to the forum to cry about it like a beaten targ.
Ego erupts in kerrat chat as it happens, I just hate the forum whine.
Playing kerrat last night just getting my fed 10 had this one fed player in a lifer ship which I killed 6 times, pretty much one shooting on the alpha decloak.:):)
He/she starts saying that I'm the problem with the game and the klinks make it no fun.
At which point I pm him/her saying its nothing personal but the ship he's in has weak shield and he's/she's slow to react to my bop doing an alpha strike on him.:P
Just wondering if anyone else is getting stick from the Feds in kerrat when they go boom!
Nope when I have pissed of a FED and made them cry I know my ancestors are singing tales of my daring do in Sto'Vo'Kor. I'm a Klink its what we do.
If that ever happened, kerrat would die out very quickly. First of all, cryptic would be forced to implement it as a queue mission. Why? Well for the simple reason that feds outnumber the kdf like what... 1000 to 1? If left as is currently, kdf will be spawn camped to death, doesn't matter how bad fed fail builds are.
As I said, I recall it used to be like that (with the dilihtium rewards, 1440 for every 3 runs, plus a piece of ship equipment) from what I recall. Especially since Kerrat had no cool down time that I can recall. After they mostly removed the large dilihtium rewards with the exception of the one that shows up every now and then, it largely gotten back to being balanced.
You see, your average fed see's a Bird of Prey and thier mind goes "wow, what a kool looking ship.." then they realize that the BOP is not a fed ship.
and when they realize that a well handled BOP is every bit as deadly as it is visually stunning, with... they turn into 9 year olds having a bad day. 9 year olds, with overly indulgent parents. Unfortunatly Daddy Stahl, and Moma "Geko" Rivera just refuse to make the BOP any easier of an opponent for them. They have to dig into the data base of exploits cheats and hacks to win.. or learn the games combat systems... and... how to fight thier ships. And they have to learn the ships...
When ever I feel I need to be entertained I go read the fed ship forums and such with the constant threads of This ship is OP, or that ship is OP, buff/nerf some particular class of ship, and my favorite "WHAT SHIP IS BEST?" (now personally I have a thing for KDF battlecruisers, but thats just me.)
Eventually they either learn, or go find another game to play.
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I'd never been to ke'rrat until i got dragged there by a fleet mate, and i could feel the Fed chat suck several IQ points from my brain, they're just little kids in there. So i was in my oddy, playing the objective when out of no where a transphasic torp boat kept on attacking me, and for some odd reason, it could cloak in battle *shrug* I'm at 30 HP, and he comes over my stern for another pass, i activate ramming speed and destroyed his little flimsy BOP, (for the record it was the default ship) and then he rages at me for killing him and leaves. I just avoid kerrat period unless i'm on my klingon now. The klink IQ is generally higher than feds.
I'd never been to ke'rrat until i got dragged there by a fleet mate, and i could feel the Fed chat suck several IQ points from my brain, they're just little kids in there. So i was in my oddy, playing the objective when out of no where a transphasic torp boat kept on attacking me, and for some odd reason, it could cloak in battle *shrug* I'm at 30 HP, and he comes over my stern for another pass, i activate ramming speed and destroyed his little flimsy BOP, (for the record it was the default ship) and then he rages at me for killing him and leaves. I just avoid kerrat period unless i'm on my klingon now. The klink IQ is generally higher than feds.
It is astounding how most of the Fed' players do not even try to use teamwork, and I am a primary Fed' player!
Due to the KDF's smaller playerbase and the obsessiveness required to keep playing them, the average skill level skews far higher than with feds.
Also Kerrat attracts mainly Fed PvEers and KDF PvPers (since Fed PvPers have the more active FvF queues), so there's going to generally be a big difference in skill level.
First - Where did you hear that? I kinda' hoped the Elachi lockbox started a new trend of creating new universals that can be used by everyone.
Second - If true, can't say I'm really suprised.
Can I just add that I was told by a little tribble, who heard from someone else long ago that the devs once said that c store consoles would eventually go to the other faction?
But seriously, I did once see a vet player say that the devs once said that.
Even if Feds ever DO get AAs in a lockbox, 95% of em won't know how to use it properly irregardless, then probably complain about it being 'underpowered'.
Especially if the devs fix it's CD to be 3 minutes like other stuff.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
OMG! Did you guys hear? They're giving feds acton assimilators in season 8 o-o
If it is true then it is a proof that decision makers have a hard on when it comes to giving KDF exclusive stuff to Feds. I won't be surprised if they wear federation skirts with UFP logo on the crouch area.
Sooner or later, you might see Feds running around with KDF honor guard costume.
This is exactly the reason why I quit playing PvP.
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Well, the solution to the spawn camping problem would be this: Program in 3-4 respawn sites for each 'side'. Have the game randomly select which one you respawn at. All the sudden, it's a hell of a lot harder to spawn-camp the opponent. You'd have to cover all the spawnpoints, which makes it harder to bring overwhelming firepower to bear.
At least they will find it much easier to get their "die 25 times" daily than my KDF toon does :P
Attacked a klink player "Peaches". 80% of the shots missed, and he just sailed out of range. My ship turns and he attacks. I timed it- dead in 4 seconds.
And that's not overpowered or cheating using a script? Ah well, just another loser reported to cryptic.
Fed ships can do the same thing I've seen it more then a few times. It has nothing to do with "how broken Klingon ships are." A lot of people go in there under geared or under skilled compared to what everyone else is and get nuked. I have had fed ships drop me with my shields completely intact I am not going to call them cheaters. Google and find out what to do differently if your going to PvP. :P
Simple method of checking if he's cheating. What buffs did you have up - during both attack and defense phase?
Do you have any accuracy traits/weapon mods? 80% miss....based on combatlog or impression?
It is pretty easy to tell whether someone is truly cheating or not based on your answers to these questions.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, although most people with such testimonies have been shown to have vastly inferior builds.
So, details please?
Edit: Come to think of it, though, there isn't much point in using scripts if you can already set multi-keybinds in-game.
The typical Klink ship is outfitted with every advantage in the game. Universal/lock-box consoles, elite fleet shields/weapons and the best consoles/boffs/doffs in the game. They also are quite fond of the 'cheesy' abilities like the shockwave, the jamming and the virals.
In comparison the typical Fed ship would be outfitted for PvE which is far more lenient in terms of kit and abilities. At the endgame it's usually kit from the reputations, and perhaps green/blue mk xi/xii consoles. Some players don't even stick to a single energy type.
So one meets the other in Ker'rat, the under-equipped one get's vaporised in seconds and then whines in zone chat that they cheat, it's scripts and blah blah blah. In reality they are just better prepared than you.
Lol...klingon ships are broken? seriously?
Let me illuminate what happened:
1. you likely had no accuracy modifiers or, heaven forbid, you never 99'd the skill
2. Said klingon was likely using evasive, aux2damp or even a double pattern omega for bonus speed/defence buffs
In other words lack of accuracy stat meets extremely high defensive statistic from movement - hence why so many shots missed
Now lets move to the 'dead in 4 seconds' - this is known as an alpha strike - in other words, a tac lined up every damage buff ability they had and hit you with it all at once - considering your lack of knowledge, as neither tac team not even an epts to mitigate shield consumption were running, it was straight through the shield to the hull at full damage
Federation tactical players too have this ability - so klingon ships are not broken - your knowledge of the game however made the ship appear broken by sheer lack of knowledge on your part lending the klingon 'Peaches' a horrendously simple kill
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Your bad at PvP so the KDF must be cheating???????
Thats just the sort of logic Ive come to expect from some feds.......
R.I.P
I expect it...you wouldn't believe the accusations I've had in kerrat - well you likely would, thinking about it
In the end though its like life - if you are not educated, everyone else who does has the advantage
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Oh hey, it's the guy who hates PVP in all forms, and thinks it should be deleted from STO because he's personally not good at it.
By the way, I'm a Fed, and my record is 3 klingon player ships destroyed with a single torp spread III. Who's overpowered now?
There's a loser here, all right... it's the one who reports other players to Cryptic for being better than him.
I merely expect more intelligence from the playerbase in regards to how things work in STO.
Since the game has PvP bootcamp and numerous threads on all aspects of PvP gameplay the continuing "KDF is OP" whine is truelly a poor attempt at sabotage.
He needs to educate himself instead crying from a place of ignorance.
R.I.P
This made me smile, you sir are very amusing. "I expect more intelligence from the playerbase" Hahahaha, thanks for the laugh.:D
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Hmmph, guess that's why I get bored so easily.
Could be. Sometimes the challenge of life must come from within if its not coming from without.
R.I.P
(Just because you've been using DHCs for so long, you've convinced yourself no other weapon can work... doesn't mean it's actually true
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Reading this made me smile.
Fleet advanced escort. Two advanced fleet quantums, fore and aft. 5x 30% quantum damage tac consoles. 2-piece adapted MACO bonus (25% torp/mine dmg). Rule 62 console bonus (11% torp/mine dmg). Main offensive ability: Torpedo Spread III + II.
Other weapons/offensive abilities include AP DHC + DBB for shield popping (pair of BO I and one CRF I), isometric charge, and gravity well. 6 points in particle emitters, 6 points in starship sensors. Other goodies equipped include tachyokinetic converter, borg and romulan universal consoles, and a subspace field modulator. 3 Romulan crit boffs as well.
If I fire my torp spread, and you're in range... it doesn't matter if you move out of range, cloak, or evade... they'll catch you. Spreads do not miss. I'd say a good half of my kills are Klingons who obligingly turned off their shields and cloaked with a buttload of my torps on their tail. The coolest thing about this setup is how frequently it scores multi-kills. The sight of 3 klinks exploding from a single torp spread is just beautiful.
Thank Kahless he didnt come to the forum to cry about it like a beaten targ.
Ego erupts in kerrat chat as it happens, I just hate the forum whine.
R.I.P
Nope when I have pissed of a FED and made them cry I know my ancestors are singing tales of my daring do in Sto'Vo'Kor. I'm a Klink its what we do.
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As I said, I recall it used to be like that (with the dilihtium rewards, 1440 for every 3 runs, plus a piece of ship equipment) from what I recall. Especially since Kerrat had no cool down time that I can recall. After they mostly removed the large dilihtium rewards with the exception of the one that shows up every now and then, it largely gotten back to being balanced.
It is astounding how most of the Fed' players do not even try to use teamwork, and I am a primary Fed' player!
Due to the KDF's smaller playerbase and the obsessiveness required to keep playing them, the average skill level skews far higher than with feds.
Also Kerrat attracts mainly Fed PvEers and KDF PvPers (since Fed PvPers have the more active FvF queues), so there's going to generally be a big difference in skill level.
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First - Where did you hear that? I kinda' hoped the Elachi lockbox started a new trend of creating new universals that can be used by everyone.
Second - If true, can't say I'm really suprised.
Can I just add that I was told by a little tribble, who heard from someone else long ago that the devs once said that c store consoles would eventually go to the other faction?
But seriously, I did once see a vet player say that the devs once said that.
Especially if the devs fix it's CD to be 3 minutes like other stuff.
If it is true then it is a proof that decision makers have a hard on when it comes to giving KDF exclusive stuff to Feds. I won't be surprised if they wear federation skirts with UFP logo on the crouch area.
Sooner or later, you might see Feds running around with KDF honor guard costume.
This is exactly the reason why I quit playing PvP.
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