The first thing I tell them though is NO RAINBOW/TECHNICOLOR BEAMS or they'll be DISOWNED!:D
you know, i'd really like to see your family put rainbows on their ships, just to tick you off, then tick you off even further by proving rainbows in the hands of people who actually know what the hell they're doing and know how to build their characters are just as effective as someone using all the same color
i'm really getting sick of you coming here every 2 days and blaming rainbows for lack of DPS when it's a TERRIBLE SKILL SETUP and NOT KNOWING HOW TO PROPERLY USE SUPPORTING POWERS that causes it
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
you DO know there is also a science-oriented Odyssey ship right? :rolleyes: unless they were using the other versions, in which case they should be smacked.
i'm really getting sick of you coming here every 2 days and blaming rainbows for lack of DPS when it's a TERRIBLE SKILL SETUP and NOT KNOWING HOW TO PROPERLY USE SUPPORTING POWERS that causes it
Yep your right, it s terrible set up skills. And you can get just as sick as you want because I'm sure I'll be posting more.
So I have been running into people that do not want to help in the STF matches. They tend to just fly around and maybe fire a few seconds then claim LAG, and only move when reward time comes.
Todays Culprit was Eve Szymusiak@iQlore
It makes the possibility of getting bonus Omega's impossible. Wish we could just kick them, with a voting system.
you know, i'd really like to see your family put rainbows on their ships, just to tick you off, then tick you off even further by proving rainbows in the hands of people who actually know what the hell they're doing and know how to build their characters are just as effective as someone using all the same color
Funny. There's no way I'd use rainbows even if they were set up right. I've seen too many times first hand how weak they are and I've only done a couple dozen STF's.
So I have been running into people that do not want to help in the STF matches. They tend to just fly around and maybe fire a few seconds then claim LAG, and only move when reward time comes.
Todays Culprit was xxxx@xxxx
It makes the possibility of getting bonus Omega's impossible. Wish we could just kick them, with a voting system.
You might want to edit that name out. Its against the rules to post them.
Funny. There's no way I'd use rainbows even if they were set up right. I've seen too many times first hand how weak they are and I've only done a couple dozen STF's.
tactical consoles boost a weapon's base damage, before anything else is added; replacing a blue mk xi specific console with the general one would take the DPS boost of a common mk xi beam array from its base of 210 DPV + the 26% boost of a specialized console, which is an added 54.6 and totals 264.6, down to 246.75 (210 *17.5% equaling 36.75), for a grand total DPV loss of 17.85 for that one beam array...big freaking whoop
and then everything from a proper skill/ship setup kicks in and boosts that to around 8-900 DPV, before any powers like tac fleet or attack pattern beta kick in, which would boost it even further
rainbow beams are not nearly as weak as some idiots seem to think they are, if the rest of the captain and ship are properly built
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
tactical consoles boost a weapon's base damage, before anything else is added; replacing a blue mk xi specific console with the general one would take the DPS boost of a common mk xi beam array from its base of 210 DPV + the 26% boost of a specialized console, which is an added 54.6 and totals 264.6, down to 246.75 (210 *17.5% equaling 36.75), for a grand total DPV loss of 17.85 for that one beam array...big freaking whoop
and then everything from a proper skill/ship setup kicks in and boosts that to around 8-900 DPV, before any powers like tac fleet or attack pattern beta kick in, which would boost it even further
rainbow beams are not nearly as weak as some idiots seem to think they are, if the rest of the captain and ship are properly built
But why would you do that when one energy type is just plain better? You might try it to get all the procs... or you could focus on one and get a higher chance of proccing a specific proc. Additionally, rainbow beams are usually a sign that the rest of the build is not so great.
But why would you do that when one energy type is just plain better? You might try it to get all the procs... or you could focus on one and get a higher chance of proccing a specific proc. Additionally, rainbow beams are usually a sign that the rest of the build is not so great.
uhhh, maybe to prove to ignorant idiots who don't know what the hell they're talking about that rainbows are just as effective as a single color save for an EXTREMELY minor DPV loss, that you aren't even going to notice if you're running any combination of EPtW, plasmonic leech, NI, aux2batt, weapons batteries, RMC, or any other myriad of powers that boost damage or power levels
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
uhhh, maybe to prove to ignorant idiots who don't know what the hell they're talking about that rainbows are just as effective as a single color save for an EXTREMELY minor DPV loss, that you aren't even going to notice if you're running any combination of EPtW, plasmonic leech, NI, aux2batt, weapons batteries, RMC, or any other myriad of powers that boost damage or power levels
Ok, so here's what you do.
Go start you own post explaining how;
To properly set up a Rainbow/Technicolor boat.
To Properly set up a Skittles boat.
To properly set up a boat.
How not to Farm.
How to use Chat.
How to do a space STF.
How to do a ground STF.
How to cooperate with others.
How not to sabatoge.
What not to shoot at.
What to shoot at.
How to PUG.
How not to PUG.
I could go on......
Anotherwords, this is like a TV set. If you don't like what your seeing, CHANGE THE CHANNEL!
The rest of us will continue telling our fun little stories about our adventures in the STF world. :eek:
But why would you do that when one energy type is just plain better? You might try it to get all the procs... or you could focus on one and get a higher chance of proccing a specific proc. Additionally, rainbow beams are usually a sign that the rest of the build is not so great.
exactly. rainbows (and odys) have their bad name not from their uselessness, but just simply from the fact, that any competent player knows, that (s)he should get better results from a single weapon tpye.
I know there are competent rainbows out there, but tough luck spotting them if you are not parsing all the time (like I do )
still rainbows are not "that" bad, they are just not good.
on topic:
a yesterday I joined an ise. tow guys went to fight the right cube, died a few times, someone blew a gen early on my side, and as I was on the other side of everything, we lost too much dps while I went to grav well the spheres, so when I turn back, the transformer is still quite healthy, which means we lost the optional, one guy quit, and as it was past midnight I joined him. I assume the rest had a great time (by pure logic the one who blew early did not leave, and the two geniuses didnt either, so I am fairly sure they completed the rest of the round in 10 minutes - not)
uhhh, maybe to prove to ignorant idiots who don't know what the hell they're talking about that rainbows are just as effective as a single color save for an EXTREMELY minor DPV loss, that you aren't even going to notice if you're running any combination of EPtW, plasmonic leech, NI, aux2batt, weapons batteries, RMC, or any other myriad of powers that boost damage or power levels
Minor DPV-Loss over a whole STF is not really minor
While I agree with you, that a experienced player wont have any trouble to make a dps-rainbow-boat, he still makes more dmg with a single energytype.
Most people forget cause and effect: Its not because someone flies a rainbowboat and doesnt do damage that he is a noob. Its the other way around
I made a skittles boat once, just for the fun of it - the prefire chamber consoles are like 10k EC on the exchange for Rare Mk XI, so i got 5 of them and it was worth it for the sake of the experiment. I dumped all the types of [Borg] DHCs and turrets I had (disruptor, tetryon, polaron, antiproton) and I PuG-ed. The difference was that the things didn't die as fast as they did. At the time I was in fleet advanced escort....so my DPS with multi-colour was the same as a single colour weapons and 4 tactical consoles instead of five. But there is no way you're going to do 3500 DPS if you've done 7000 before that.....let alone 2000-ish.
I made a skittles boat once, just for the fun of it - the prefire chamber consoles are like 10k EC on the exchange for Rare Mk XI, so i got 5 of them and it was worth it for the sake of the experiment. I dumped all the types of [Borg] DHCs and turrets I had (disruptor, tetryon, polaron, antiproton) and I PuG-ed. The difference was that the things didn't die as fast as they did. At the time I was in fleet advanced escort....so my DPS with multi-colour was the same as a single colour weapons and 4 tactical consoles instead of five. But there is no way you're going to do 3500 DPS if you've done 7000 before that.....let alone 2000-ish.
For the real pug-feeling you must fly with 125 engine power und 50+x shields
For the real pug-feeling you must fly with 125 engine power und 50+x shields
that is just stupid. why would you want 50+ shield power? you need 125 engine power so you gain mobility on your odyssey and the rest should go to aux even if you dont have sci powers, simply because aux power effects procrate of weapons, so you would gain more dmg through the different weapon types than from one single type with full weapon power. it is proven by many fin examples
uhhh, maybe to prove to ignorant idiots who don't know what the hell they're talking about that rainbows are just as effective as a single color save for an EXTREMELY minor DPV loss, that you aren't even going to notice if you're running any combination of EPtW, plasmonic leech, NI, aux2batt, weapons batteries, RMC, or any other myriad of powers that boost damage or power levels
Of course you will, a consolidated energy type build would benefit from those buffs also, and the damage difference due to consoles and set boosts would never be mitigated. There is no defence for an intentional rainbow build, especially not that wild fantasy about proc synergies.
that is just stupid. why would you want 50+ shield power? you need 125 engine power so you gain mobility on your odyssey and the rest should go to aux even if you dont have sci powers, simply because aux power effects procrate of weapons, so you would gain more dmg through the different weapon types than from one single type with full weapon power. it is proven by many fin examples
You do realise that he was just joking/being sarcastic, right?
Not to mention aux power has no effect on proc rate. Could you provide the examples you mention?
Edit: Wait, my bad, you were being sarcastic too. *Disembowels self to atone*
Shadowfang is still right, though, that the fact alone that it's a rainbow/skittleship doesn't account for the fact that it's doing low dps. There are about a hundred different things that will cause a much bigger loss of DPS or performance, they just aren't as obvious.
People just call it out, because they don't have the attention or the grasp to notice anything else happening, like a cannon/torp escort constantly buffing itself with BO, or some people will put down players who just seem to be running rainbow builds (anyone flying a Galor at the time it was released will understand me here). Those are the same dimwits that think that the amount of accolade points are an indicator as to how good someone will perform in an STF or Fleet Event.
As i have mentioned before: Anyone who puts down rainbows or skittles should post his/her setup in this thread and I'll bet you people in here could take 98% of them apart and find DPS losses greater than the difference between an Mk.XII pure energy and Mk.X rainbow build.
Was running ISE with 3 other Feds and a Klingon in a BoP. We burn down the first few mobs in no time. So far so good. We then go to the left transformer and get to work. Everyone follows 10% and we knock it out no problems. Everything's still good. Suddenly the BoP cloaks and runs away and leaves the rest of us to fight the nanite spheres. He then sits over on the other side of the map next to the cube above the right hand side transformer. After a minute or so he starts complaining in team chat. "Waiting on you guys to finish off the spheres." "Still waiting so I can ambush this cube."
At this point the other 4 of us are like WTF are you doing? Come help us fight you ****. He starts saying things like how BoPs are supposed to be ambush craft and not direct fighters or some BS like that. We finish off the spheres and start moving over to the right transformer. By now it's pretty much just the 4 of us fighting since this BoP is a moron. Throughout the whole rest of the fight he keeps complaining about how BoPs have paper hulls and can't fight. He then starts going off on why we expected him to do anything because his captain's name was, and I quote, "Arabic for Infidel." LOLwut? Anyways the 4 of us managed to make the optional and did damn good despite this idiot. He kept complaining all the way up to the point where I grabbed my loot bag and warped out. So ridiculous.
Was running ISE with 3 other Feds and a Klingon in a BoP. We burn down the first few mobs in no time. So far so good. We then go to the left transformer and get to work. Everyone follows 10% and we knock it out no problems. Everything's still good. Suddenly the BoP cloaks and runs away and leaves the rest of us to fight the nanite spheres. He then sits over on the other side of the map next to the cube above the right hand side transformer. After a minute or so he starts complaining in team chat. "Waiting on you guys to finish off the spheres." "Still waiting so I can ambush this cube."
At this point the other 4 of us are like WTF are you doing? Come help us fight you ****. He starts saying things like how BoPs are supposed to be ambush craft and not direct fighters or some BS like that. We finish off the spheres and start moving over to the right transformer. By now it's pretty much just the 4 of us fighting since this BoP is a moron. Throughout the whole rest of the fight he keeps complaining about how BoPs have paper hulls and can't fight. He then starts going off on why we expected him to do anything because his captain's name was, and I quote, "Arabic for Infidel." LOLwut? Anyways the 4 of us managed to make the optional and did damn good despite this idiot. He kept complaining all the way up to the point where I grabbed my loot bag and warped out. So ridiculous.
And that, in a nutshell, is the ultimate problem with noobs in STFs. Not that they can't help out, it's when they refuse to even try.
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After a minute or so he starts complaining in team chat. "Waiting on you guys to finish off the spheres." "Still waiting so I can ambush this cube."
At this point the other 4 of us are like WTF are you doing? Come help us fight you ****. He starts saying things like how BoPs are supposed to be ambush craft and not direct fighters or some BS like that.
some people just take the intended role of their ships way too seriously
i can take a guess as to why his ship has paper-thin hull, and it's not because of the BoP's low base HP
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Defiant. Good DPS and knew the strat, but would pointedly leave teammates struggling with spawns instead of helping kill them.
Prometheus. Oh lord, this captain. Took no actions except sitting motionless and unloading on cubes. Died dozens of times due to total lack of self-preservation instinct. Never touched a BoP or spawn, even when they flew right past him. Advocated for counter-productive strats such as killing the cubes early.
Two Odysseys. Apparent cube-phobia, because they never approached to help with probes. That's okay though, because they somehow had their hands full desperately trying to kill BoPs.
With only the Defiant and me on probes (I'm not counting the Prometheus with all the time spent dead/damaged), things were slow. The total lack of teamwork meant Negh'var/Raptor spawns were also a hot mess, and I had already given up on optional. Still, things were basically under control until we started popping cubes. By the time we popped the second, the two poor Odysseys had totally lost control of the situation and the Kang was at 20%. I swept in to heal but it was too late, and we lose the match outright.
It was the Wizard of Oz group. The Defiant needed a heart, the Odysseys needed courage, and the Prometheus needed a gorram brain.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
people actually do that? *double facepaw* (because one just isn't enough)
Yes, they do. It's quite sad.
In my mind, any ship that is killed by one sphere is a fail. A sphere takes a while to take down (if not a Tac in an Escort), but by itself, its weapons are hardly lethal.
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yesterday was fun.
joined an ise. there was a ody (simple ody no dps), a rainbow intrepid, an afker escort and a beamscort...
at the generators I started to work on one, but beamscort joined at 40% so I brought down another to around 10%, while the two others brought the 3rd one to 60% and left one alone. the problem was, that our beamscort friend couldnt realize the low dps, so blew early, and with the low dmg done overall (1500 dps was the highest of theirs...) we pretty much failed the optional as one grav well from me was not enough, while they went off fighting spheres...
when we brought the cube, it was all over me, so I decided to have fun, and pretty much took it down to 40% alone, while everyone else took the gate down to a similar level (yeah right...). when I finally died because I was peeking where them were. I died. went back to the 40% gate killed it, and then I just bugged out to start a new ise as I needed to get a nice parse (overall I pretty much did 8k dps, while tanking cube, doing everything, and only left them a 40% cube, so noone can really balme me for anything but spending 15 minutes in an ise, which is a crime in itself)
tactical consoles boost a weapon's base damage, before anything else is added; replacing a blue mk xi specific console with the general one would take the DPS boost of a common mk xi beam array from its base of 210 DPV + the 26% boost of a specialized console, which is an added 54.6 and totals 264.6, down to 246.75 (210 *17.5% equaling 36.75), for a grand total DPV loss of 17.85 for that one beam array...big freaking whoop
Without any other variables, with only 6 weapons, that's 107.1 DPV, which for a Beam Array translates to 87 DPS.
That's a loss of 26,100 in a good 5 minute run, a loss of 52,200 in an alright 10 minute run, and a loss of 78,300 in a minimal 15 minute run.
Why would anyone who knows what they're doing give up damage for no reason?
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you know, i'd really like to see your family put rainbows on their ships, just to tick you off, then tick you off even further by proving rainbows in the hands of people who actually know what the hell they're doing and know how to build their characters are just as effective as someone using all the same color
i'm really getting sick of you coming here every 2 days and blaming rainbows for lack of DPS when it's a TERRIBLE SKILL SETUP and NOT KNOWING HOW TO PROPERLY USE SUPPORTING POWERS that causes it
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
they were using the tac oddy
Yep your right, it s terrible set up skills. And you can get just as sick as you want because I'm sure I'll be posting more.
Todays Culprit was Eve Szymusiak@iQlore
It makes the possibility of getting bonus Omega's impossible. Wish we could just kick them, with a voting system.
Funny. There's no way I'd use rainbows even if they were set up right. I've seen too many times first hand how weak they are and I've only done a couple dozen STF's.
You might want to edit that name out. Its against the rules to post them.
tactical consoles boost a weapon's base damage, before anything else is added; replacing a blue mk xi specific console with the general one would take the DPS boost of a common mk xi beam array from its base of 210 DPV + the 26% boost of a specialized console, which is an added 54.6 and totals 264.6, down to 246.75 (210 *17.5% equaling 36.75), for a grand total DPV loss of 17.85 for that one beam array...big freaking whoop
and then everything from a proper skill/ship setup kicks in and boosts that to around 8-900 DPV, before any powers like tac fleet or attack pattern beta kick in, which would boost it even further
rainbow beams are not nearly as weak as some idiots seem to think they are, if the rest of the captain and ship are properly built
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
But why would you do that when one energy type is just plain better? You might try it to get all the procs... or you could focus on one and get a higher chance of proccing a specific proc. Additionally, rainbow beams are usually a sign that the rest of the build is not so great.
uhhh, maybe to prove to ignorant idiots who don't know what the hell they're talking about that rainbows are just as effective as a single color save for an EXTREMELY minor DPV loss, that you aren't even going to notice if you're running any combination of EPtW, plasmonic leech, NI, aux2batt, weapons batteries, RMC, or any other myriad of powers that boost damage or power levels
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Ok, so here's what you do.
Go start you own post explaining how;
To properly set up a Rainbow/Technicolor boat.
To Properly set up a Skittles boat.
To properly set up a boat.
How not to Farm.
How to use Chat.
How to do a space STF.
How to do a ground STF.
How to cooperate with others.
How not to sabatoge.
What not to shoot at.
What to shoot at.
How to PUG.
How not to PUG.
I could go on......
Anotherwords, this is like a TV set. If you don't like what your seeing, CHANGE THE CHANNEL!
The rest of us will continue telling our fun little stories about our adventures in the STF world. :eek:
exactly. rainbows (and odys) have their bad name not from their uselessness, but just simply from the fact, that any competent player knows, that (s)he should get better results from a single weapon tpye.
I know there are competent rainbows out there, but tough luck spotting them if you are not parsing all the time (like I do
still rainbows are not "that" bad, they are just not good.
on topic:
a yesterday I joined an ise. tow guys went to fight the right cube, died a few times, someone blew a gen early on my side, and as I was on the other side of everything, we lost too much dps while I went to grav well the spheres, so when I turn back, the transformer is still quite healthy, which means we lost the optional, one guy quit, and as it was past midnight I joined him. I assume the rest had a great time (by pure logic the one who blew early did not leave, and the two geniuses didnt either, so I am fairly sure they completed the rest of the round in 10 minutes - not)
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
Minor DPV-Loss over a whole STF is not really minor
While I agree with you, that a experienced player wont have any trouble to make a dps-rainbow-boat, he still makes more dmg with a single energytype.
Most people forget cause and effect: Its not because someone flies a rainbowboat and doesnt do damage that he is a noob. Its the other way around
For the real pug-feeling you must fly with 125 engine power und 50+x shields
that is just stupid. why would you want 50+ shield power? you need 125 engine power so you gain mobility on your odyssey and the rest should go to aux even if you dont have sci powers, simply because aux power effects procrate of weapons, so you would gain more dmg through the different weapon types than from one single type with full weapon power. it is proven by many fin examples
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
Of course you will, a consolidated energy type build would benefit from those buffs also, and the damage difference due to consoles and set boosts would never be mitigated. There is no defence for an intentional rainbow build, especially not that wild fantasy about proc synergies.
You do realise that he was just joking/being sarcastic, right?
Not to mention aux power has no effect on proc rate. Could you provide the examples you mention?
Edit: Wait, my bad, you were being sarcastic too. *Disembowels self to atone*
People just call it out, because they don't have the attention or the grasp to notice anything else happening, like a cannon/torp escort constantly buffing itself with BO, or some people will put down players who just seem to be running rainbow builds (anyone flying a Galor at the time it was released will understand me here). Those are the same dimwits that think that the amount of accolade points are an indicator as to how good someone will perform in an STF or Fleet Event.
As i have mentioned before: Anyone who puts down rainbows or skittles should post his/her setup in this thread and I'll bet you people in here could take 98% of them apart and find DPS losses greater than the difference between an Mk.XII pure energy and Mk.X rainbow build.
Was running ISE with 3 other Feds and a Klingon in a BoP. We burn down the first few mobs in no time. So far so good. We then go to the left transformer and get to work. Everyone follows 10% and we knock it out no problems. Everything's still good. Suddenly the BoP cloaks and runs away and leaves the rest of us to fight the nanite spheres. He then sits over on the other side of the map next to the cube above the right hand side transformer. After a minute or so he starts complaining in team chat. "Waiting on you guys to finish off the spheres." "Still waiting so I can ambush this cube."
At this point the other 4 of us are like WTF are you doing? Come help us fight you ****. He starts saying things like how BoPs are supposed to be ambush craft and not direct fighters or some BS like that. We finish off the spheres and start moving over to the right transformer. By now it's pretty much just the 4 of us fighting since this BoP is a moron. Throughout the whole rest of the fight he keeps complaining about how BoPs have paper hulls and can't fight. He then starts going off on why we expected him to do anything because his captain's name was, and I quote, "Arabic for Infidel." LOLwut? Anyways the 4 of us managed to make the optional and did damn good despite this idiot. He kept complaining all the way up to the point where I grabbed my loot bag and warped out. So ridiculous.
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And that, in a nutshell, is the ultimate problem with noobs in STFs. Not that they can't help out, it's when they refuse to even try.
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some people just take the intended role of their ships way too seriously
i can take a guess as to why his ship has paper-thin hull, and it's not because of the BoP's low base HP
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Me: fleet heavy cruiser retro, specced heal/tank.
Them:
With only the Defiant and me on probes (I'm not counting the Prometheus with all the time spent dead/damaged), things were slow. The total lack of teamwork meant Negh'var/Raptor spawns were also a hot mess, and I had already given up on optional. Still, things were basically under control until we started popping cubes. By the time we popped the second, the two poor Odysseys had totally lost control of the situation and the Kang was at 20%. I swept in to heal but it was too late, and we lose the match outright.
It was the Wizard of Oz group. The Defiant needed a heart, the Odysseys needed courage, and the Prometheus needed a gorram brain.
if a player gets killed by a probe in cure, that is a truly epic fail because those probes have no weapons :P
same goes for probes in khitomer; they have weapons, but they don't fire on you
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Always fun to see people throwing Jam Sensors on Khitomer/Cure probes as well. Good job guys; now you're safe.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Yes, they do. It's quite sad.
In my mind, any ship that is killed by one sphere is a fail. A sphere takes a while to take down (if not a Tac in an Escort), but by itself, its weapons are hardly lethal.
Missing the good ol' days of PvP: Legacy of Romulus to Season 9
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Hmmm how about those that dps warp gates at close range and get themself's killed repeatly over & over & over and don't even learn...
I'll add another..
How about a those doing probe duty in Khitomer and can't nail all the probes before they warp out and you fail the bonus...
joined an ise. there was a ody (simple ody no dps), a rainbow intrepid, an afker escort and a beamscort...
at the generators I started to work on one, but beamscort joined at 40% so I brought down another to around 10%, while the two others brought the 3rd one to 60% and left one alone. the problem was, that our beamscort friend couldnt realize the low dps, so blew early, and with the low dmg done overall (1500 dps was the highest of theirs...) we pretty much failed the optional as one grav well from me was not enough, while they went off fighting spheres...
when we brought the cube, it was all over me, so I decided to have fun, and pretty much took it down to 40% alone, while everyone else took the gate down to a similar level (yeah right...). when I finally died because I was peeking where them were. I died. went back to the 40% gate killed it, and then I just bugged out to start a new ise as I needed to get a nice parse (overall I pretty much did 8k dps, while tanking cube, doing everything, and only left them a 40% cube, so noone can really balme me for anything but spending 15 minutes in an ise, which is a crime in itself)
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
That's a loss of 26,100 in a good 5 minute run, a loss of 52,200 in an alright 10 minute run, and a loss of 78,300 in a minimal 15 minute run.
Why would anyone who knows what they're doing give up damage for no reason?