100 or 200 Lobi each Attackship both are reasonable at least there they still make there money and players get use there ship this tread is full of great ideas here i like this one the most of all
Now I know you guys who may paid for one off the exchange or got lucky opening packs the reward itself is getting your hands on the ship you see its same feeling anyone who picks up any lock box ship or Lobi store but making another ship needed for buying a fighter bay is lame reason to buy a bug. now that being said why dose cryptic do this give the Attackship a Polaron Quad Cannons [Dmg] x4 make useable on other Jem'hadar ships only or useable on any ship place dual cannons add something will give the players more weapons builds I'm pretty sure bug player would like to have something like that and would reject idea You said wanted to give those owners Attackship something its the idea of Quad Cannon would make me more likely buy a ship.
This would be a welcome Bluepost^^^
Please Don't Troll this Tread thank you.
Great Idea Polaron Quad Cannons [Dmg] x4 I don't how many times I heard that form owners of the Attackships maybe that give a lot better build to the ship free up weapon slot for a Quantum Torpedo, Bio-neural Warhead, or even better a Thermionic torpedo with out losing cannon firepower there are player who run all cannons they have a lil boost in damage but dip in power level which would have to manage. this maybe most logical step to fixing a issue that wanted to give something to owners of attack ships. If had a Quad Cannons i would be all over that in a heart beat...
That I agree would solve issue... 100 or 200 Lobi each Attackship both are reasonable price at least there they still make there money the also just make it that ship dosen't need you to own a Attackship which would be smart easy coding
Post the Date you think "bluepost" my guess is March 29 2013 after the new stuff but you think would get on this issue fast nip it in the butt.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] DELTA RISING FIXS THERE NEVER COMING WHY I'M I WASTING MY TIME ASKING FOR THEM ???
100-200 lobi is NOT ok, it's not even close, look at the Karfi and the Vo'Quv, both have additional pets available like the Jem Dread and they are not locked out by "you must own a tear from Shatners left eye" mentality. You may purchase both basic versions if you own the ship it is used on from the weapons vendor and the adv version from the dil store. Once again the only requirement is that you own the ship it is used on.
Like I say watch out for the lobi store version coming out and all the BS they say on top. What Cryptic needs to do and needed to do was make them available to Jem Dreadnought owners from the start and not have the Jem hadar fighters being the useless pieces of ****. They currently are.
Yes I agree with your Karfi part comment because comes form Zen store but how about the Atrox it only has stalker fighters which every one knows suck unless your in pvp and how about Recluse it doesn't have a purple upgrade for its fighters I own every carrier and fly them all Dreadcarrier has worst fighters by far the Recluse Fighters that blue are better then them Karfi may atm have Strongest fighters in the game Karfi is still best carrier followed by the Recluse, Vo'Quv, Atrox, and, Dreadcarrier atm I'm disappointed I got it and shouldn't be away but it is.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] DELTA RISING FIXS THERE NEVER COMING WHY I'M I WASTING MY TIME ASKING FOR THEM ???
The way Cryptic has been cash hunting lately I'm surprised that the Bug ship and the Dreadnought Carrier were not added has bonus items to that $200.00 Never Winter item pack that they trying to push off on us.
I don't see a very bright future for Never Winter but the good news for Cryptic is that the player base over there will be creating 90% of the game content for them.
This thing with the Dreadnought was never about trying to give something extra to the players that own the lock box Attack Ship; it was all about trying to get the players that did not have the Lock Box Attack Ship to want/Need one.
What Bonus do owners of the Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier get? , for that matter owners of every other lock box and Lobi store ship or C-Store ship?!
The idea about Quad Polaron Cannons for the Bug Ship would have been sweet and that would have been one sick bonus.
The JHF pets (aka Jem'Hadar Fighter), definitely need a re-vamp that I agree. I have suggested on another thread for them to remove the useless DEM, and replace that with perhaps a Quantum Torpedo launcher instead. Also, as I said before, if they are not changing the JHAS requirements, then at least make the JHAS available for 2500 zen, no more than that. 25 dollars should be reasonable enough.
This all reasonable changes... and what players really want to happen.
Polaron Quad Cannons [Dmg] x4 they can be grandfather in them to the Attackship and make them useable on any Jem'Hadar ships with make them move highly vaule to be own on aaccount.
Release the Attackship fighter Bays to the Dreadcarriers so to make more likely get hands on them for you carrier
Buff Jem'hadar Fighters the other fighters
Still make that if player owns the Attackship they pick up the fighters on a dil store but people who don't own it or don't wish to own the ship must buy it form lobi store or other dil store for higher price...
So tell me Kronplah, what would be the difference between them and adv peregrines? What they need to do is stick dual cannons on jem fighters and give it CRF1. Adv version get a second dual cannon and the fleet adv gets the same but CRF2.
Also, no, don't compromise. It is a cheap scam which you should not accept. This is a very bad road we are going down.
Nova I also own all the carriers, I think the Karfi and vo'quv are great examples of how carriers should work, you own the ship you get the basic pets, you may buy adv pets from dil store. If there's a frigate type pet you may buy that from the normal vendor and you may get the adv version from the store. Also yes there does and always has been a need for better Tholian fighters.
So tell me Kronplah, what would be the difference between them and adv peregrines? What they need to do is stick dual cannons on jem fighters and give it CRF1. Adv version get a second dual cannon and the fleet adv gets the same but CRF2
The only difference would be the type of energy weapon. The Peregrine fighters and their KDF counterparts, the To'Duj fighters both have distinct energy weapon types that follows canon, which in this case the JHF pets do the same. Both these fighters assume the 'attack' role, that is their purpose. I have read the JHF falls under this same category, but the Peregrine and To'Duj are much more useful because of that single projectile weapon they carry. The idea of having CRF on a fighter, that carries no projectile weapon, would make up for that deficiency but, if 12 of them used CRF at the same time then I think the JHF pets would go from useless to an OP'd swarm of hornets lmao
Also, no, don't compromise. It is a cheap scam which you should not accept. This is a very bad road we are going down.
Nova I also own all the carriers, I think the Karfi and vo'quv are great examples of how carriers should work, you own the ship you get the basic pets, you may buy adv pets from dil store. If there's a frigate type pet you may buy that from the normal vendor and you may get the adv version from the store. Also yes there does and always has been a need for better Tholian fighters.
This all reasonable changes... and what players really want to happen.
Polaron Quad Cannons [Dmg] x4 they can be grandfather in them to the Attackship and make them useable on any Jem'Hadar ships with make them move highly vaule to be own on a account.
Release the Attackship fighter Bays to the Dreadcarriers so to make more likely get hands on them for you carrier
Buff Jem'hadar Fighters the other fighters
Still make that if player owns the Attackship they pick up the fighters on a dil store but people who don't own it or don't wish to own the ship must buy it form lobi store or other dil store for higher price...
Make it So.
I Agree! This tread is getting some where Hopefully a blue post however after I get what I want form the current game's the lock boxs I have to say they will no longer be get money form me because of cheap scam they pulled on us players. is utterly disgusted with lack of care for customers this is not devs faults its higher ups that push things thought with complete disregard to how may go a south on them. It would be nice if they all would get on the same page and communicate.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] DELTA RISING FIXS THERE NEVER COMING WHY I'M I WASTING MY TIME ASKING FOR THEM ???
This all reasonable changes... and what players really want to happen.
Polaron Quad Cannons [Dmg] x4 they can be grandfather in them to the Attackship and make them useable on any Jem'Hadar ships with make them move highly vaule to be own on aaccount.
Release the Attackship fighter Bays to the Dreadcarriers so to make more likely get hands on them for you carrier
Buff Jem'hadar Fighters the other fighters
Still make that if player owns the Attackship they pick up the fighters on a dil store but people who don't own it or don't wish to own the ship must buy it form lobi store or other dil store for higher price...
Make it So.
I would gladly take Polaron Quad Cannons [Dmg] x4 as I own an Attackship and like the idea of giving the fighter bay to Dreadcarrier captains
I have the Jem'Hadar Escort Carrier and don't like it very much.
That being said, I really want the attack ship to go with my upgraded Jem'Hadar space set and polaron weapons. The fact that all you dreadnought guys do too means I need 300+Million EC to buy one.
This is not cool.
On the other hand it's selling those Fleet Support Duty Officer Packs like there's no tomorrow so it looks like the marketing campaign is having the desired effect. Clever stuff by cryptic really, a bit calculating, exploitative and cold blooded, but definitely clever.
I have the Jem'Hadar Escort Carrier and don't like it very much.
That being said, I really want the attack ship to go with my upgraded Jem'Hadar space set and polaron weapons. The fact that all you dreadnought guys do too means I need 300+Million EC to buy one.
This is not cool.
On the other hand it's selling those Fleet Support Duty Officer Packs like there's no tomorrow so it looks like the marketing campaign is having the desired effect. Clever stuff by cryptic really, a bit calculating, exploitative and cold blooded, but definitely clever.
Cryptic knew exactly what they were doing with this move and I'm willing to bet that they were counting on us raisng a fuss over the issue and drawing more attention to the Bug Ship for them.
Now now ladies, calm it down. Cryptic have been very ferengi like with it and its so plainly obvious even from the start. Problem is that people are going bat**** insane for them and just forking out tons of money for them which only re-affirms the position they're taking on the pets.
They'll probably release some mini defiant pets for fed carriers (seriously this should already have happened) later but you must own all 3 versions of the defiant (but without this requirement) to buy them. Yes much easier to get but still, if this elitist money making attitude runs away with itself only we will suffer. Cryptic and PWE will just move onto their next game and let this game die having squeezed every penny from it.
You people whining and crying because you can't get bug pets only have yourselves to blame. The reason why the Kar'fi and Vo'quv carriers have easy access to frigates is because they're Klingon, the faction that was designed to have carriers from the start, before the whingers and criers came in and demanded that the Federation get them too. Well, now you get carriers, but they have to be balanced. The balance is you don't get easy frigates. Only people who can put some time and effort in can get them, and it works well. Thank you Cryptic for trying to keep the game balanced.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
65 pages now of whining and crying from people who feel entitled to a premium reward item because they are special snowflakes?
JHAS hangers are great thing to have and also strictly optional. If you can't afford a JHAS then do without like every other space poor player. It's fine, go get your elite scorpions instead which are perfectly adequate regardless.
But no, keep complaining and crying that Cryptic isn't handing out premium rewards on a plate to you.
Seriously, I want to see this thread reach 100 pages so I can archive it all and keep it as an example of over entitlement and self centered thinking in a F2P MMORPG :rolleyes:
65 pages now of whining and crying from people who feel entitled to a premium reward item because they are special snowflakes?
JHAS hangers are great thing to have and also strictly optional. If you can't afford a JHAS then do without like every other space poor player. It's fine, go get your elite scorpions instead which are perfectly adequate regardless.
But no, keep complaining and crying that Cryptic isn't handing out premium rewards on a plate to you.
Seriously, I want to see this thread reach 100 pages so I can archive it all and keep it as an example of over entitlement and self centered thinking in a F2P MMORPG :rolleyes:
Reach down with both hands, get a firm grasp, then pull that big ol stick out your a$$. I have all the jem ships and i still say give everyone access to these pets. People arent buying the bug just for these pets believe me. I have them and they arent spectacular the elite scorpions are indeed better, but people should have the option to chose what they want to use.
Cryptic didnt do this for any GOOD reason thats what upset people. Besides its stupid the ONLY ship capable of using these pets doesnt get access to them unless you jump through a super expensive hoop? TRIBBLE no matter how you cut that bro.
Besides its stupid the ONLY ship capable of using these pets doesnt get access to them unless you jump through a super expensive hoop? TRIBBLE no matter how you cut that bro.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
Yep homophobic of me to think that making the only ship able to use the pets unable to buy them unless you spend tons of ingame credits or money is weak as hell.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
Can we please stay on the topic of tread not talk about peoples Orientation or talking about Arson /Terroristic Threat. Terroristic Threat like that means jail time in some state know your online your across a state line shooting off mouth like that and should stop. thank you
Just update this tread is about "Jem'Hadar carrier ship requirment for Jem'Hadar attack ship"
Frostform, why dont you relax, this is not a totalitarian society we live in. Plus you have no clue as to where I live exactly (ex. country, state/province, region, etc..). so don't make assumptions that someone is talking about terrorism and you might think they live in the U.S.
Anyway... Any other ideas/plans of combating this issue at hand people?
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Great Idea Polaron Quad Cannons [Dmg] x4 I don't how many times I heard that form owners of the Attackships maybe that give a lot better build to the ship free up weapon slot for a Quantum Torpedo, Bio-neural Warhead, or even better a Thermionic torpedo with out losing cannon firepower there are player who run all cannons they have a lil boost in damage but dip in power level which would have to manage. this maybe most logical step to fixing a issue that wanted to give something to owners of attack ships. If had a Quad Cannons i would be all over that in a heart beat...
That I agree would solve issue... 100 or 200 Lobi each Attackship both are reasonable price at least there they still make there money the also just make it that ship dosen't need you to own a Attackship which would be smart easy coding
Post the Date you think "bluepost" my guess is March 29 2013 after the new stuff but you think would get on this issue fast nip it in the butt.
DELTA RISING FIXS THERE NEVER COMING WHY I'M I WASTING MY TIME ASKING FOR THEM ???
Yes I agree with your Karfi part comment because comes form Zen store but how about the Atrox it only has stalker fighters which every one knows suck unless your in pvp and how about Recluse it doesn't have a purple upgrade for its fighters I own every carrier and fly them all Dreadcarrier has worst fighters by far the Recluse Fighters that blue are better then them Karfi may atm have Strongest fighters in the game Karfi is still best carrier followed by the Recluse, Vo'Quv, Atrox, and, Dreadcarrier atm I'm disappointed I got it and shouldn't be away but it is.
DELTA RISING FIXS THERE NEVER COMING WHY I'M I WASTING MY TIME ASKING FOR THEM ???
I don't see a very bright future for Never Winter but the good news for Cryptic is that the player base over there will be creating 90% of the game content for them.
This thing with the Dreadnought was never about trying to give something extra to the players that own the lock box Attack Ship; it was all about trying to get the players that did not have the Lock Box Attack Ship to want/Need one.
What Bonus do owners of the Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier get? , for that matter owners of every other lock box and Lobi store ship or C-Store ship?!
The idea about Quad Polaron Cannons for the Bug Ship would have been sweet and that would have been one sick bonus.
Polaron Quad Cannons [Dmg] x4 they can be grandfather in them to the Attackship and make them useable on any Jem'Hadar ships with make them move highly vaule to be own on aaccount.
Release the Attackship fighter Bays to the Dreadcarriers so to make more likely get hands on them for you carrier
Buff Jem'hadar Fighters the other fighters
Still make that if player owns the Attackship they pick up the fighters on a dil store but people who don't own it or don't wish to own the ship must buy it form lobi store or other dil store for higher price...
Make it So.
Also, no, don't compromise. It is a cheap scam which you should not accept. This is a very bad road we are going down.
Nova I also own all the carriers, I think the Karfi and vo'quv are great examples of how carriers should work, you own the ship you get the basic pets, you may buy adv pets from dil store. If there's a frigate type pet you may buy that from the normal vendor and you may get the adv version from the store. Also yes there does and always has been a need for better Tholian fighters.
It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.
Has damage got out of control?
This is the last thing I will post.
The only difference would be the type of energy weapon. The Peregrine fighters and their KDF counterparts, the To'Duj fighters both have distinct energy weapon types that follows canon, which in this case the JHF pets do the same. Both these fighters assume the 'attack' role, that is their purpose. I have read the JHF falls under this same category, but the Peregrine and To'Duj are much more useful because of that single projectile weapon they carry. The idea of having CRF on a fighter, that carries no projectile weapon, would make up for that deficiency but, if 12 of them used CRF at the same time then I think the JHF pets would go from useless to an OP'd swarm of hornets lmao
I Agree! This tread is getting some where Hopefully a blue post however after I get what I want form the current game's the lock boxs I have to say they will no longer be get money form me because of cheap scam they pulled on us players. is utterly disgusted with lack of care for customers this is not devs faults its higher ups that push things thought with complete disregard to how may go a south on them. It would be nice if they all would get on the same page and communicate.
DELTA RISING FIXS THERE NEVER COMING WHY I'M I WASTING MY TIME ASKING FOR THEM ???
I would gladly take Polaron Quad Cannons [Dmg] x4 as I own an Attackship and like the idea of giving the fighter bay to Dreadcarrier captains
That being said, I really want the attack ship to go with my upgraded Jem'Hadar space set and polaron weapons. The fact that all you dreadnought guys do too means I need 300+Million EC to buy one.
This is not cool.
On the other hand it's selling those Fleet Support Duty Officer Packs like there's no tomorrow so it looks like the marketing campaign is having the desired effect. Clever stuff by cryptic really, a bit calculating, exploitative and cold blooded, but definitely clever.
Cryptic knew exactly what they were doing with this move and I'm willing to bet that they were counting on us raisng a fuss over the issue and drawing more attention to the Bug Ship for them.
It was a very Ferengi like maneuver :mad:
also, even after the reinforcment packs are done, I will still keep shouting to have this lockout removed.
Then you're going to have a lot of players who got the JHAS for the pets yelling back.
eh just like those players who yelled at me for perpetuating a fed carrier before the atrox existed, but I still stand.
They'll probably release some mini defiant pets for fed carriers (seriously this should already have happened) later but you must own all 3 versions of the defiant (but without this requirement) to buy them. Yes much easier to get but still, if this elitist money making attitude runs away with itself only we will suffer. Cryptic and PWE will just move onto their next game and let this game die having squeezed every penny from it.
It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.
Has damage got out of control?
This is the last thing I will post.
JHAS hangers are great thing to have and also strictly optional. If you can't afford a JHAS then do without like every other space poor player. It's fine, go get your elite scorpions instead which are perfectly adequate regardless.
But no, keep complaining and crying that Cryptic isn't handing out premium rewards on a plate to you.
Seriously, I want to see this thread reach 100 pages so I can archive it all and keep it as an example of over entitlement and self centered thinking in a F2P MMORPG :rolleyes:
Reach down with both hands, get a firm grasp, then pull that big ol stick out your a$$. I have all the jem ships and i still say give everyone access to these pets. People arent buying the bug just for these pets believe me. I have them and they arent spectacular the elite scorpions are indeed better, but people should have the option to chose what they want to use.
Cryptic didnt do this for any GOOD reason thats what upset people. Besides its stupid the ONLY ship capable of using these pets doesnt get access to them unless you jump through a super expensive hoop? TRIBBLE no matter how you cut that bro.
That's pretty homophobic.
And you wondered why you were called homophobic. :rolleyes:
Can we please stay on the topic of tread not talk about peoples Orientation or talking about Arson /Terroristic Threat. Terroristic Threat like that means jail time in some state know your online your across a state line shooting off mouth like that and should stop. thank you
Just update this tread is about "Jem'Hadar carrier ship requirment for Jem'Hadar attack ship"
So Hardcore about thier pixels, you guise
Shutup Wesley: First In Everything
Anyway... Any other ideas/plans of combating this issue at hand people?