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  • marshalericdavidmarshalericdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    So to get full use and enjoyment out of a Jem'Hadar carrier ships I have to leave another ship a great Ship in spacedock doing nothing but sitting their. That is just wrong. I want full enjoyment out of both the Attack Ship and the other Jem'Hadar ships. They either should of never made you have to have the Attack Ship in order to get the Fighter bay. What they could of done was if you have the attack ship the fighter bays would be greatly reduced in cost. The current way things are is pure BS.
  • syberghostsyberghost Member Posts: 1,711 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    rickpaaa wrote: »
    Time and effort have zero to do with it. Either pure luck, or spending hundreds of dollars will do it. Better yet, spending hundreds and playing the exchange, because it is possible to spend $500.00 and get nothing.

    It's also possible to sell nothing but loot drops, and get enough money from the Exchange. We've been getting periodic threads asking for the EC limit to be raised above 1 billion since long before lockboxes.
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  • squishkinsquishkin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    syberghost wrote: »
    It's also possible to sell nothing but loot drops, and get enough money from the Exchange. We've been getting periodic threads asking for the EC limit to be raised above 1 billion since long before lockboxes.

    Yeah, it's possible to make tons of money in this game from loot drops and tour the universe and what have you. More than enough to buy every special ship off the Exchange without spending a real dime.
  • nova2284nova2284 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    it's ridiculous! think but just maybe people want use ship not play ah all day just pay out 200mil 300mil 400mil ec It would be nice to buy a ship and not have to have need another ship to buy a part for it seem to me if attackship such better ship then why should ever paid to buy gimped ships form locks boxs...

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  • kronplah78kronplah78 Member Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    westx211 wrote: »
    I think now he's just trying to get the last word in so that it seems like he didn't lose so bad.

    No actually, considering I'm not the one crying over pointless issue, I'm haven't lost anything. It's an open and shut case. They are not going to change the requirements for you on the hangar pets.
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  • ludikroludikro Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    nova2284 wrote: »
    it's ridiculous! think but just maybe people want use ship not play ah all day just pay out 200mil 300mil 400mil ec It would be nice to buy a ship and not have to have need another ship to buy a part for it seem to me if attackship such better ship then why should ever paid to buy gimped ships form locks boxs...

    How they view there customers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9jiHsdDcfI

    If you spent less time complaining on internet forums and more time say, playing the exchange, or farming contraband, you might be on your way to your very own JHAS. Just a thought.
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,282 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    kronplah78 wrote: »
    No actually, considering I'm not the one crying over pointless issue, I'm haven't lost anything. It's an open and shut case. They are not going to change the requirements for you on the hangar pets.

    you mean like they didn't change any of the stuff in the rep system (which is another of their money-makers) to make it slightly easier for people to do it? oh wait, they did...

    if enough people raise an outcry about it, it'll get changed
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  • rickpaaarickpaaa Member Posts: 637 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    syberghost wrote: »
    It's also possible to sell nothing but loot drops, and get enough money from the Exchange. We've been getting periodic threads asking for the EC limit to be raised above 1 billion since long before lockboxes.

    I guess it is possible, but I spend around 3 million a week for commodities for the reputation grind, but that's because I am an altaholic.

    So the cheapest attack ship in the exchange now is 239,000,000. The best item I have ever had drop gave me about 4,000,000. If I really try, I can generally get 1,000,000 a day. I suspect that if I really stop all other considerations, I can raise those funds in 6 months. The problem is that by that time, the JHAS would be back up to 800,000,000.

    The reason people need to have the EC cap raised above a billion is because of the people who SELL lock box, and other reward pack ships and items. For people who actually play the game, and have limited luck, we probably never have had above 10 million EC, and our running balances are much much lower.


    Anyway. If I ever were to get a JHAS, it would go on a tactical officer, and not the science officer who has the carrier. If I were to ever get a retrait to add the Accurate trait to my science officer, I 'might' reconsider this position.
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,282 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    rickpaaa wrote: »
    The problem is that by that time, the JHAS would be back up to 800,000,000.

    stuff can't be listed for more than 500,000,000 on the exchange
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  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,323 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Is it me or did a thread get merged with this one?
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  • psonixpsonix Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    kronplah78 wrote: »
    No actually, considering I'm not the one crying over pointless issue, I'm haven't lost anything. It's an open and shut case. They are not going to change the requirements for you on the hangar pets.

    Yeah i'm already on my third Jem Hadar ship just by earning energy credits in game. You really don't ever have to spend a dime in real money to get anything in this game anymore. It is an incredible value over most MMO's.
  • daedalus304daedalus304 Member Posts: 1,049 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    westx211 wrote: »
    Is it me or did a thread get merged with this one?

    yea, in a freaky way, posts we made earlier are slammed together with other posts, out of place and mixed up.

    either this is a deliberate attack via devs/mods, a merging gone wrong, or the forums were slipped into an alternate reality.
  • squishkinsquishkin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    rickpaaa wrote: »
    For people who actually play the game, and have limited luck, we probably never have had above 10 million EC, and our running balances are much much lower.

    Have you considered that perhaps you're just bad at playing the game? :eek:
  • inosaskainosaska Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    squishkin wrote: »
    Have you considered that perhaps you're just bad at playing the game? :eek:

    What does earning currency in this game have to do with skill? None at all. You really need to reflect on what you're putting on the boards before posting.
  • squishkinsquishkin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    inosaska wrote: »
    What does earning currency in this game have to do with skill? None at all.

    Then why doesn't the poster have all the money he wants, if there's no effort or skill required to obtain it?
  • inosaskainosaska Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    squishkin wrote: »
    Then why doesn't the poster have all the money he wants, if there's no effort or skill required to obtain it?

    Ever thought of the possibility the person might have a life outside the game?
  • squishkinsquishkin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    inosaska wrote: »
    Ever thought of the possibility the person might have a life outside the game?

    And that's great, but that's the answer to why he's poor in the game: he's doing a bad job of playing it. Just like I said.
  • kronplah78kronplah78 Member Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Awesome this thread got all messed up in the merge. Nice!!!! Good thing to see some others moving on with this issue, and not continue to complain about the JHAS hangar pet requirements.
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  • daedalus304daedalus304 Member Posts: 1,049 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    kronplah78 wrote: »
    Awesome this thread got all messed up in the merge. Nice!!!! Good thing to see some others moving on with this issue, and not continue to complain about the JHAS hangar pet requirements.

    wait what?

    you realize that is what this is all about correct?

    in fact we were all very happy discussing the implications and exploring the reasons for this

    "two ship requirement for something that only works on one ship also claimed as a bonus for owning one of those ships yet can only be used on the other ship" ordeal.

    if i am not mistaken, until you showed up and helped to derail us, things were going well.

    but on the other hand, arguing with you is like getting **** on by a six hundred pound gorilla, not at all pleasant. We've already got proof of you being a troll, so I think for now I will just ignore what you say until something intelligent and not so insulting.
  • daedalus304daedalus304 Member Posts: 1,049 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I am still wondering however, what threads were merged with this one, and why did it mess up half the postings?
  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,323 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    It was only one other thread
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  • rickpaaarickpaaa Member Posts: 637 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    squishkin wrote: »
    Have you considered that perhaps you're just bad at playing the game? :eek:

    If the game to which you refer is "The Exchange," yes. Very bad at playing that game.
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  • nova2284nova2284 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Ho good treads merged... good I guess they want us to form Voltron!:)

    Ready to form Voltron activate interlock Dino therms connected intercell up mega thrusters are go Go Voltron force....... Form feet and legs form arms and body and all form the head

    Lets hammer our point home until the Dev finally blue post a "No!" Dispoint us half of us...

    The following is you can take constructive criticism...
    Communication is only way cryptic change there ways doing business! You guys really need practice communication in your company/customers and customer care its seriously lacking and it shows if don't know what I'm talking about its like interviews with Devs who can't simple answer questions about fleet weapons at Tier 5 star bases in interviews. The fact of matter is you disregard that these 2 ships a shouldn't have no barring on one another in any aspect of the game its great that wish to grandfather a Attack ship but that should be that if own it should be pick up off dil store ill give you that yes great but some people don't wish to fly bug escorts or want put massive amounts of cash or in game EC to get a Very Rare Fighter Bay I'm part of that group. There should be Discount to player to get off the Dil store owned ship any toon on there account other players who Don't own a Bug on any toon account wide should have to pay 200 lobi a Fighter Bay only fair because that what parts of D'kora set go for and the Temporal set this Just another part of a ship. All I have is this game anymore so please get you sh.. together and fix it PLEASE!

    Anyone feel the need to cut me off at Kneels go for it your only should how immature you are the jokes on you I have no legs under the kneels...:o
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  • nova2284nova2284 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    kronplah78 wrote: »
    Awesome this thread got all messed up in the merge. Nice!!!! Good thing to see some others moving on with this issue, and not continue to complain about the JHAS hangar pet requirements.

    Its not over by a longshot sir! We just begun to fight the issues in fact they just made post 10x stronger!

    There should be Discount to player to get off the Dil store owned ship any toon on there account other players who Don't own a Bug on any toon account wide should have to pay 200 lobi a Fighter Bay only fair because that what parts of D'kora set go for and the Temporal set this Just another part of a ship.

    For as long as I draw breath I have hope and will to fight!
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Ok, I HAVE the jemmy bug, but never use it (cruiser toon) AND just bought the Dreadnought. OK Cryptic, you can now remove that 'must have bug to have that hanger' restriction so I get screwed out of any being special time. :P
    Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    This gating of the Hanger Attack Ships has made Cryptic a TON! of money and the door has been blown wide open for them to use approach with Carriers and thier Hanger Options going foward.

    Now that Cryptic knows that this type of gating will be accepted by the majority of the player base I'm sure that we'll see new Federation Frigate type Hanger Options has well has more Hanger Options for the Recluse and maybe the other existing Carriers has well.

    I should be happy because now Cryptic will have more incentive to further develop Carriers and their Hanger Options; however, I now fear the price that I'll have to pay for them and the hoops that I'll have to jump through to get them.

    I have a bad feeling that the Lobi store option for buying more Hanger options for our Carriers in now well off the table.
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  • kronplah78kronplah78 Member Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    wait what?

    you realize that is what this is all about correct?

    in fact we were all very happy discussing the implications and exploring the reasons for this

    "two ship requirement for something that only works on one ship also claimed as a bonus for owning one of those ships yet can only be used on the other ship" ordeal.

    if i am not mistaken, until you showed up and helped to derail us, things were going well.

    but on the other hand, arguing with you is like getting **** on by a six hundred pound gorilla, not at all pleasant. We've already got proof of you being a troll, so I think for now I will just ignore what you say until something intelligent and not so insulting.

    You see? People like you will continue the quarrel by writing something like this.

    Why can't you be like most of the other people and move on?

    It's good to see most people coming to an understanding of the relevant issue at hand, and being more acceptable of it. I believe that with a little patience things may further evolve to please the fans. However, that I'm not even sure of. I guess we can wait and see
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,282 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    kronplah78 wrote: »
    You see? People like you will continue the quarrel by writing something like this.

    Why can't you be like most of the other people and move on?

    It's good to see most people coming to an understanding of the relevant issue at hand, and being more acceptable of it. I believe that with a little patience things may further evolve to please the fans. However, that I'm not even sure of. I guess we can wait and see

    you just don't get it, do you?

    if Abraham Lincoln had 'been like most of the other people and moved on', slavery would still be legal and running rampant throughout the US

    if the workers of the past had 'been like most of the other people and moved on', people today would still be working 16 hour days for less than minimum wage, have no health benefits whatsoever, and be forced to work in extremely unsafe working conditions

    we are not going to stop fighting this utterly blatant and greedy money-grab, no matter how many times people like you try to ruin any such attempts, period, full stop
    Like special weapons from other Star Trek games? Wondering if they can be replicated in STO even a little bit? Check this out: https://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1262277/a-mostly-comprehensive-guide-to-star-trek-videogame-special-weapons-and-their-sto-equivalents

    #LegalizeAwoo

    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"


    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
    Passion and Serenity are one.
    I gain power by understanding both.
    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
    The Force is united within me.
  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    you just don't get it, do you?

    if Abraham Lincoln had 'been like most of the other people and moved on', slavery would still be legal and running rampant throughout the US

    if the workers of the past had 'been like most of the other people and moved on', people today would still be working 16 hour days for less than minimum wage, have no health benefits whatsoever, and be forced to work in extremely unsafe working conditions

    we are not going to stop fighting this utterly blatant and greedy money-grab, no matter how many times people like you try to ruin any such attempts, period, full stop

    Is it just me or did you just sink your credibilty into a black hole by comparing real world slavery to a perk in a computer game ? :P
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    you just don't get it, do you?

    if Abraham Lincoln had 'been like most of the other people and moved on', slavery would still be legal and running rampant throughout the US

    if the workers of the past had 'been like most of the other people and moved on', people today would still be working 16 hour days for less than minimum wage, have no health benefits whatsoever, and be forced to work in extremely unsafe working conditions

    we are not going to stop fighting this utterly blatant and greedy money-grab, no matter how many times people like you try to ruin any such attempts, period, full stop

    Did you really just compare not getting a ship pet to Slavery as if they were in the same boat?


    *sigh*
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