We're getting closer to having the Foundry back up, and we will continue to update this thread as updates become available, but we need to delay this week's Spotlight on the Foundry again (an extra apology to the author for their understanding). Even if it does come back up today (not saying it is scheduled to do that, or will, or won't, just saying ), I'd like to give the author a chance to run through it to see if they'd like to change anything due to of some of the new features and changes Season 6 introduced. So sorry, and we appreciate your understanding and continue patience.
Frustratingly non-specific. /sigh. Oh well I'm out of town this weekend anyway.
In any case. I think delaying the spotlight goes without saying BranFlakes. Broadcast UGC, Bitesize UGC and Primetime UGC have had to delay their broadcasts as well. Logically you just can't do these things without the Foundry up and running.
We're getting closer to having the Foundry back up, and we will continue to update this thread as updates become available, but we need to delay this week's Spotlight on the Foundry again (an extra apology to the author for their understanding). Even if it does come back up today (not saying it is scheduled to do that, or will, or won't, just saying ), I'd like to give the author a chance to run through it to see if they'd like to change anything due to of some of the new features and changes Season 6 introduced. So sorry, and we appreciate your understanding and continue patience.
Cheers,
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With all due respect, you guys have been saying this every couple of days for the last week. At this point, just let us authors know when the Foundry is up, missions republish, and unlocked for play, so those of us authors who are interested can go check how the republish went for our missions.
(And you overuse 'close', because again, we've been 'close' since the day Season 6 launched according to you, Salami, and Zero.)
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With all due respect, you guys have been saying this every couple of days for the last week. At this point, just let us authors know when the Foundry is up, missions republish, and unlocked for play, so those of us authors who are interested can go check how the republish went for our missions.
(And you overuse 'close', because again, we've been 'close' since the day Season 6 launched according to you, Salami, and Zero.)
We're getting closer to having the Foundry back up, and we will continue to update this thread as updates become available, but we need to delay this week's Spotlight on the Foundry again (an extra apology to the author for their understanding). Even if it does come back up today (not saying it is scheduled to do that, or will, or won't, just saying ), I'd like to give the author a chance to run through it to see if they'd like to change anything due to of some of the new features and changes Season 6 introduced. So sorry, and we appreciate your understanding and continue patience.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
More standard PR speak that doesnt really tell us anything. Why am I not surprised :rolleyes:
One thing I've been wondering over the last couple days...
When you guys happen to finish everything with the Foundry and turn it on for editing and all that, will it just be like flicking a switch (i.e. we won't know about it until we log on or until you tell us) or will it require a patch (i.e. we won't know about it until you tell us or we check the release notes)?
'Cause, if it's the former, it'd be nice to know so I and others won't need to get overly excited every time we see a new patch is being applied. But if it's the latter, then I'd like to know so I and others can keep up this feeling of potential excitement when we see "and to apply a new patch" every time maintenance is performed.
Thanks in advance for any replies! :cool: Kudos on the update as well!
We have found several more bugs after yesterday's build went live. It is going to take us a bit longer to get them fixed, tested and into a release build.
Please know that the team is working very hard to get the Foundry back up, but want to make sure that everything is in working order before we do.
I'm not a programmer, but I doubt they could account for the huge number of permutations on missions that can occur in the Foundry. Unless they had a server they could actually have go through the FULL republishing process under game conditions, with all of the available missions, I'm not sure they could've tested it in full on Tribble. I don't think copying just a few missions would've done it.
I think the only way to have avoided this would've been to do a full-scale republishing on Tribble--copying EVERY mission on Holodeck and going through the full process on Tribble.
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I think the only way to have avoided this would've been to do a full-scale republishing on Tribble--copying EVERY mission on Holodeck and going through the full process on Tribble.
I highly doubt that. Even 1/4 of them would have probably been enough.
So your saying the devs couldnt have copied a test group of missions from holodeck to tribble for this purpose?
From what I understand, that's not really possible.
They aren't in a database the way a real mission might be.
When they copied missions from Tribble to Holodeck once, they almost had to go in and manually remake the missions.
I suspect it's very wrapped up in the account data of the author and the players. I don't think they're coded like standard missions. Then again, I don't think official Cryptic missions are coded like standard MMO missions... and I think THAT is part of why PWE shelled out so much money for Cryptic and was so excited about the engine. It's tied to why the character data footprint is so high in this game (hence why devs always talk about storage space) but also why Cryptic's games going back to CoH have a reputation for frying systems if players try to overclock their computer and ignore the system specs. (I remember Intel's benchmark test one year at a convention had Carmen Electra demonstrating that the new Intel could run two copies of City of Heroes at once. And it wasn't that CoH had the best graphics. It's that it had a reputation for being a CPU hog.)
Anyhoo... Theories aside... It's not really possible to port missions between servers. Last time they tried, it failed and they had to manually reassemble them.
When they copied missions from Tribble to Holodeck once, they almost had to go in and manually remake the missions.
Tribble to holodeck(what you are talking about) is completely different than holodeck to tribble(what I am talking about). They told is before that they cant transfer characters from tribble to holodeck, but we can easily transfer characters from holodeck to tribble. The reason they had such a hard time with those missions they ported was because they were going from tribble to holodeck, which once again, is not what I'm talking about.
This and the KDF lore consoles are still not working after the launch of season 6?! I took a break when S6 hit and would have thought at least one of those things would be fixed. Especially as the new lockboxes have come out.
Is there any way we can get an ETA on when the foundry missions will be republished and playable again? I know it may not be possible to say when that'll happen, but it would be nice to get a ballpark guesstamite so we know somewhere about when to expect things to be back up.
I can hardly wait for a bug fix. It feels like waiting for Christmas. Please can we open our present now PWE and have a giant gift-o-bug-fixes? Can we open our present now? Do we get dilithium for having no fundry? I mean it's like our candy was taken away from us. *sob sob*.
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It feels like waiting for Christmas. Please can we open our present now PWE and have a giant gift-o-bug-fixes? Can we open our present now? Do we get dilithium for having no fundry? I mean it's like our candy was taken away from us. *sob sob*.
I've been trying to think of analogies for this and I was thinking a holiday with gifts or a birthday (where one knows they have gifts coming, but can't open them yet), but I'd say, given what's happened [and this is definitely not meaning to offend Cryptic], but, with the way things have been going, it seems more like a parent punishing their child (i.e. "you can play with your new toys when we feel you've earned them.") 'Cause, at least with the first analogy, there's a finite date to go along with it, but, with the second one, there isn't one. It's completely up to the parent (i.e. Cryptic) as to when to decide to give the toys (i.e. the Foundry and everything new inside it) back to the child (i.e. the players).
I'm not trying to say that Cryptic is "punishing" us by keeping the Foundry off, I totally understand why they're doing it; it just seemed like one of the best analogies I could come up with for the situation.
Nevertheless, though, I will gladly wait for as long as it takes (hopefully not much longer...hehe)! I'm probably gonna spend so much time on the Foundry, my Fleet's gonna wonder where I've been! LOL
I, like others, would like to know when Foundry will be up, but we all know this will take time. However, there are other problems in game since Season 6 started up. The most obvious is the server stability went back down hill. Another, for the Klinks, is that the Lore Mission is not working. I know I have submitted my fair share of in-game bug reports, so how about when are these issues going to be looked at? :rolleyes:
I, like others, would like to know when Foundry will be up, but we all know this will take time. However, there are other problems in game since Season 6 started up. The most obvious is the server stability went back down hill. Another, for the Klinks, is that the Lore Mission is not working. I know I have submitted my fair share of in-game bug reports, so how about when are these issues going to be looked at? :rolleyes:
For the record, how many of these bugs were reported on Tribble? Maybe Cryptic should fix bugs on their test server before sending the bugs to Holodeck. Yes, I know it's not that simple, there's a fair chunk of code that the two servers don't share, and bugs are like a Hydra. Cut off one head and two more take it's place. :rolleyes:
Back on topic, I've got this idea for a Foundry mission but I can't do anything with it until the Foundy is back online. Can we please get an update on that? Pretty please?
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We're getting closer to having the Foundry back up, and we will continue to update this thread as updates become available, but we need to delay this week's Spotlight on the Foundry again (an extra apology to the author for their understanding). Even if it does come back up today (not saying it is scheduled to do that, or will, or won't, just saying
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
In any case. I think delaying the spotlight goes without saying BranFlakes. Broadcast UGC, Bitesize UGC and Primetime UGC have had to delay their broadcasts as well. Logically you just can't do these things without the Foundry up and running.
With all due respect, you guys have been saying this every couple of days for the last week. At this point, just let us authors know when the Foundry is up, missions republish, and unlocked for play, so those of us authors who are interested can go check how the republish went for our missions.
(And you overuse 'close', because again, we've been 'close' since the day Season 6 launched according to you, Salami, and Zero.)
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what he said!
More standard PR speak that doesnt really tell us anything. Why am I not surprised :rolleyes:
When you guys happen to finish everything with the Foundry and turn it on for editing and all that, will it just be like flicking a switch (i.e. we won't know about it until we log on or until you tell us) or will it require a patch (i.e. we won't know about it until you tell us or we check the release notes)?
'Cause, if it's the former, it'd be nice to know so I and others won't need to get overly excited every time we see a new patch is being applied.
Thanks in advance for any replies! :cool: Kudos on the update as well!
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Please know that the team is working very hard to get the Foundry back up, but want to make sure that everything is in working order before we do.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Why didnt they get this sorted out on tribble?
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Probably cause they didn't do any mission republishing on Tribble. After the mission wipe, hardly anyone bothered to make or remake missions there.
So your saying the devs couldnt have copied a test group of missions from holodeck to tribble for this purpose?
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What would that item be? extra foundry slots? Title? (eg Achitect?) A tool belt costume part for casual wear (lol),
If we were to assume that they would compensate for down time of the foundry, In all seriousness what would you suggest as compensation ?
(dont respond with : " They wont! " as I already know this, I just would like suggestions. )
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I'm not a programmer, but I doubt they could account for the huge number of permutations on missions that can occur in the Foundry. Unless they had a server they could actually have go through the FULL republishing process under game conditions, with all of the available missions, I'm not sure they could've tested it in full on Tribble. I don't think copying just a few missions would've done it.
I think the only way to have avoided this would've been to do a full-scale republishing on Tribble--copying EVERY mission on Holodeck and going through the full process on Tribble.
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I highly doubt that. Even 1/4 of them would have probably been enough.
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From what I understand, that's not really possible.
They aren't in a database the way a real mission might be.
When they copied missions from Tribble to Holodeck once, they almost had to go in and manually remake the missions.
I suspect it's very wrapped up in the account data of the author and the players. I don't think they're coded like standard missions. Then again, I don't think official Cryptic missions are coded like standard MMO missions... and I think THAT is part of why PWE shelled out so much money for Cryptic and was so excited about the engine. It's tied to why the character data footprint is so high in this game (hence why devs always talk about storage space) but also why Cryptic's games going back to CoH have a reputation for frying systems if players try to overclock their computer and ignore the system specs. (I remember Intel's benchmark test one year at a convention had Carmen Electra demonstrating that the new Intel could run two copies of City of Heroes at once. And it wasn't that CoH had the best graphics. It's that it had a reputation for being a CPU hog.)
Anyhoo... Theories aside... It's not really possible to port missions between servers. Last time they tried, it failed and they had to manually reassemble them.
Thanks for not forgetting about us, Brandon!
Tribble to holodeck(what you are talking about) is completely different than holodeck to tribble(what I am talking about). They told is before that they cant transfer characters from tribble to holodeck, but we can easily transfer characters from holodeck to tribble. The reason they had such a hard time with those missions they ported was because they were going from tribble to holodeck, which once again, is not what I'm talking about.
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I've been trying to think of analogies for this and I was thinking a holiday with gifts or a birthday (where one knows they have gifts coming, but can't open them yet), but I'd say, given what's happened [and this is definitely not meaning to offend Cryptic], but, with the way things have been going, it seems more like a parent punishing their child (i.e. "you can play with your new toys when we feel you've earned them.") 'Cause, at least with the first analogy, there's a finite date to go along with it, but, with the second one, there isn't one. It's completely up to the parent (i.e. Cryptic) as to when to decide to give the toys (i.e. the Foundry and everything new inside it) back to the child (i.e. the players).
I'm not trying to say that Cryptic is "punishing" us by keeping the Foundry off, I totally understand why they're doing it; it just seemed like one of the best analogies I could come up with for the situation.
Nevertheless, though, I will gladly wait for as long as it takes (hopefully not much longer...hehe)! I'm probably gonna spend so much time on the Foundry, my Fleet's gonna wonder where I've been! LOL
For the record, how many of these bugs were reported on Tribble? Maybe Cryptic should fix bugs on their test server before sending the bugs to Holodeck. Yes, I know it's not that simple, there's a fair chunk of code that the two servers don't share, and bugs are like a Hydra. Cut off one head and two more take it's place. :rolleyes:
Back on topic, I've got this idea for a Foundry mission but I can't do anything with it until the Foundy is back online. Can we please get an update on that? Pretty please?
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