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KDF Unfairness Compared to FED
blagorm
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Hello and welcome to the petition for KDF rights and to show that what you are doing is unfair.
Missions:KDF has 8 Missions to KDF only! In thoses there are 1 Unique item. Others are just usless junk. FEDhas 48 to them only with many Unique items.You say its fair, I dont think so.
Ships: Now.. here is a problem that I know we all see. In KDF, they have 21 Ships from the C Store. FED has 29 Ships From the C Store. Thast fine but here is the complaint. Feds have more requestion ships than KDF so they have a more variety to chose from to use. Then, KDF has all science ships as C-Store. Then, KDF gets atleast 1 ship every few months while FED gets many ships like 3 every month or 2. Thats not fait at all. KDF is vauge to new ships ever siince Borstaque. That is a lot of months. NOw you are taking the Season 6 away from us and giving FEd 2? Thats just pure unjustness.
Races: Not a Big Problem. KDF is Vauge in races. FEDs have a lot.
Uniforms: Feds get around 22 plus Veteran Reward badge and KDF gets 1 costume. I am not counting sets cause all factions can get. Also Fed has more automacticly having uniforms.
Bundles: All are FED except the Ship Pack. They even get specail boxes to themself like Starter Pack.
Population:Now, dont just skip this. It is important. For population, KDF has around 16%, FED has 84% I wonder why! Well lets see.. Better ships, Uniforms, Packages, quests, Races, and more. If youd just take the time to work on KDF, people would be more playing on it. And dont give me that "but they are half way there so why go on KDF"excuse. Plus, you
say youd do stuff for KDF and you dont! Then it recoils into low numbers!
PvP&E:Guess what? Low population means less chance for these. IM telling you Crystal is a pain, barley any Fleet Actions are ever queue, same with PvP Neutral and most Faction. Barley see KDF on STFs etc.
Graphics:Fed has better graphics than KDF.
Travel:Fed has way more places to go to for socail and attack. More vacation planets, more bases, more mostly everything. KDF.. Qo'nos,Gandala,and Risa (Rank 4 Maurauding). Take sout a lot of RP. (mostly only thing KDF can do)
New Faction: This is my newest thign I am posting to this fourm. If there is a New Faction lets say Romulan, this does mostly give more excusees for the STO to lack off KDF and there would possibly be 2 Fed Like factions or full factions and one weak faction/uncomplete faction which isnt a faction at all. Mostly KDF will get nowhere with a new faction. Feds will be good with what it has and Romulan and Feds wil just be more attentive all the time. KDF will fall and the other factins will take over the STO efforts. Do mroe fopr KDF before thr Romulans come. KDF hasnt had a new ship since Borstaqu' adn the newest thing was Ferasans and thats the only thing after Borstaque.
NOTICE!: I DO NOT count things that both factions could have like the horrible EV suits or Fleet things.
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Missions:KDF has 8 Missions to KDF only! In thoses there are 1 Unique item. Others are just usless junk. FEDhas 48 to them only with many Unique items.You say its fair, I dont think so.
Ships: Now.. here is a problem that I know we all see. In KDF, they have 21 Ships from the C Store. FED has 29 Ships From the C Store. Thast fine but here is the complaint. Feds have more requestion ships than KDF so they have a more variety to chose from to use. Then, KDF has all science ships as C-Store. Then, KDF gets atleast 1 ship every few months while FED gets many ships like 3 every month or 2. Thats not fait at all. KDF is vauge to new ships ever siince Borstaque. That is a lot of months. NOw you are taking the Season 6 away from us and giving FEd 2? Thats just pure unjustness.
Races: Not a Big Problem. KDF is Vauge in races. FEDs have a lot.
Uniforms: Feds get around 22 plus Veteran Reward badge and KDF gets 1 costume. I am not counting sets cause all factions can get. Also Fed has more automacticly having uniforms.
Bundles: All are FED except the Ship Pack. They even get specail boxes to themself like Starter Pack.
Population:Now, dont just skip this. It is important. For population, KDF has around 16%, FED has 84% I wonder why! Well lets see.. Better ships, Uniforms, Packages, quests, Races, and more. If youd just take the time to work on KDF, people would be more playing on it. And dont give me that "but they are half way there so why go on KDF"excuse. Plus, you
say youd do stuff for KDF and you dont! Then it recoils into low numbers!
PvP&E:Guess what? Low population means less chance for these. IM telling you Crystal is a pain, barley any Fleet Actions are ever queue, same with PvP Neutral and most Faction. Barley see KDF on STFs etc.
Graphics:Fed has better graphics than KDF.
Travel:Fed has way more places to go to for socail and attack. More vacation planets, more bases, more mostly everything. KDF.. Qo'nos,Gandala,and Risa (Rank 4 Maurauding). Take sout a lot of RP. (mostly only thing KDF can do)
New Faction: This is my newest thign I am posting to this fourm. If there is a New Faction lets say Romulan, this does mostly give more excusees for the STO to lack off KDF and there would possibly be 2 Fed Like factions or full factions and one weak faction/uncomplete faction which isnt a faction at all. Mostly KDF will get nowhere with a new faction. Feds will be good with what it has and Romulan and Feds wil just be more attentive all the time. KDF will fall and the other factins will take over the STO efforts. Do mroe fopr KDF before thr Romulans come. KDF hasnt had a new ship since Borstaqu' adn the newest thing was Ferasans and thats the only thing after Borstaque.
NOTICE!: I DO NOT count things that both factions could have like the horrible EV suits or Fleet things.
IF THERE IS ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THIS LIST, POST IT BELOW WITH A LIGHTBULB ICON! (all icons for this post are NOT required)
Just a note to say I've edited the first post and thread title slightly, petitions are against the forum rules, however as the thread contains a lot of useful feedback we'd rather leave it in place - please continue to post in it but there's really no need for it to be a petition as such
This post has been edited to remove content which violates the [URL="http://sto-
forum.perfectworld.com/announcement.php?&a=51"]Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules
and Policies [/URL]. ~Tobar
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I'm hasppy with our ships overall and think that what we have only needs a little tweaking in some areas to keep them competitive versus the growth rate of the feds, though new and unique ships in the future are always welcome,
Longcoats.
I agree some more KDF bundles would be nice. The T.I.E. podcast once had an excellent suggestion for one that I would gladly pay for if given the chance.
See missions above.
I think ours look better. Especially the UI.
Perhaps its time for the Devs to show whats occupies the space below ours. Maybe an ancient (Hurq) enemy could be looking there to provide PvE and PvP content. That would be cool.
R.I.P
Agree with most other points.
Suggestion:
Cryptic/PWE, just stop with the nonsense and unify the CAUSE of both factions so that they can inter-mingle completely unfettered. Which is of course to fight the various factions both the Federation and KDF are trying to thwart.
Keep two separate factions if you like, but their "separation" is already entirely meaningless and only serves to reduce the community's respective populations.
The STF's are already unified so that players can inter-mingle, so there is no reason not to finally have a proper alliance and unified front so that any and all can cooperate for the greater good of the galaxy. It will solve the population issues and will add a great deal of variety in ships accessible to both sides since everyone can potentially access them all.
No more whining from either side that "XYZ" ship can do this or that, so their faction should get that too. No more problems with future races either, Thundercats anyone? Copouts and empty excuses for keeping the two factions separate pretty much lose all meaning when clearly everything about the game is now so obviously tilted toward homogenizing the experience between the two. It's not even a "Pepsi vs. Coke" argument, it's two sides of the same coin that simply don't need to be separate merely different parts of the same whole. Perhaps a modest "faction bonus" for playing a given faction's ship with a faction's known species, but even then "Alien" is itself arguably universal to potentially either side so I don't know if that'd be good or bad.
Best of all, "third-party races" such as Cardassians, Romulans, Breen, Hirogen, even Dominion races and so on could be added "universally" so that they are more like independent militia forces or even mercenary forces, and not party to either faction, but do come from empires with obviously many millions that could readily establish a presence and contribute to the war against the Borg, Species 8472, Tholians, Iconians, Species 8472 and so on... After all they are in this galaxy too and likely don't want to be killed/conquered much more than the Federation or KDF.
The best way to achieve fairness, is to simply remove the wall(s) separating one side's benefits from the other. When both sides have the same benefits, there is no more inequity.
R.I.P
Again Roach has spoken wisely.
I agree on all of his points in response to this thread.
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I do agree we need at have an equal amount of missions, the FE missions should be Federation only as they are made from a Federation viewpoint and don't feel Klingon at all. There are many excellent story ideas out there for Klingon missions, if PWE/Cryptic have writers block they should ask the community and I am sure they'll get more than enough suggestions and good ideas. With the tools they have I can't see why they can't just have one person, just one, to do the Klingon campaign, get us missions from level 1 onwards. If the foundry tool is anything to go by they can easily do it. The missions don't need voice-overs or any of that junk, just plain and fun Klingon styled content missions. If they can afford to have a limited run Friday the 13th Mission why can't they do some missions for the KDF to get a full campaign?
I too feel the Klingons need a free line of science ships, not much of a reason to do a Klingon science officer. I deleted mine for this very reason. While the Bird of Prey's could work they are just too weak for the already weak science officers so I feel they need to either be bumbed up to be more powerful or have a carrier line from level 10 on wards for them. Perhaps the early science ships could be deck carriers then progress into carriers.
I do feel some more species would be nice, Sona for example, I started a thread about this sometime ago and there are some good suggestions in there. However I don't want to see Humans or any other Federation main species in there. We are Klingons, if you want to play Human play the Feds.
I think the KDF should get Cardassian uniforms, as well as a heap more, both free and c-store. I also think the KDF Joined Trills and Aliens should be able to wear all the current unifroms including the Naucassan and Orion ones.
The starter pack is a waste of money and I wouldn't like to see one for the KDF. However I do agree about the bundles. I think the current ones should be modified to give Klingon bonues as well. The TOS one for example should have a KDF D7 interior, Klingon TOS weapons that level with the character and some additional KDF uniforms and perhaps even the ability to have a TOS looking (Augment) Klingon on a Klingon species character.
Yeah I don't believe Cryptic's 16% ratio. I think it's been twisted and it's 16% who only play the KDF I think the Klingon player number is more like 60-70% who play the KDF, with many also playing the Federation. I honestly think they aren't being honest or truthful with us.
I don't play PVE for the simple fact that the Federation has a huge advantage, I don't mind loosing to a better player but I don't like loosing to a player who has an unfair advantage.
Hate the blue, it's hard to see at times. I think the red is a lot better imo.
Yeah a lot of work has to be done, but as usual we are in Cryptic's eyes an minority. They really don't treat their customers right, it's rather disgusting and totally unacceptable. I don't know what it is like in America, but where I live we have laws and even a government organisation we can go to and if they were in my country they would've already be in deep TRIBBLE and have been fined a large sum of money and told to buck up and do the right thing. I guess Cryptic should count itself lucky it's in the USA.
Cryptic really needs to pick it's act up, stop being so bias towards the Federation and bring some some fairness and equality towards the Klingon faction and it's players. Saying one customer is more important than another is not only insulting but cheap. Trek fans are passionate, they care about the universe and in extension the game. Treat your customers right, be totally honest and open with them and you'll have their loyalty for life, however Cryptic I feel is the wrong company to do this game, they have bitten off more than they can chew and rather than admit it and actually do something about it, they ignore the problem. It's totally not the way to fix a problem, and at the moment the problem is Cryptic.
No. No no no. We don't want to be reduced to a member of the Federation which is exactly what Unification means. We will lose out big time while the Feds finally get their hands on the 3 things left they don't have.
OK Back to the topic on hand.
Missions:
Who ever said this game was fair, it's so weighted to the Feds it's beyond a joke. The reason we have so few players is because it's so hard to get to KDF and by the time you do your halfway through the Federation. Imagine if you had to watch a movie you didn't want for an hour to be able to leave and see the movie you did want, would we bother going?
Ships:
While your numbers seem off to me, the Feds are steadly getting the advantage as the new Armitage gives up nothing for it's hanger bay, and a Hanger bay on an Escort has a far bigger impact than on a Sci focused Cruiser. Also since the rule is Orions put Fighters on their ships I would love an Orion Escort. Failing that some sort of Raptor with a Hanger bay. I'll let the feds have a FDC that's no big deal.
The further the Disparity between choices the less chance you'd have of going to the lower side. I would actually like to see ships come out for both sides, say carbon copies stat wise with different graphics for each Faction. It would make a ton of sense for Shuttle craft at the least.
Races:
A new addition would be nice but I'm happy with who we have. I sure as hell don't want the Romulans lumped in with us. Although in all Honesty a Combined Klingon/Romulan faction would grant us more ships and boost our numbers. It just doesn't make sense there is too much bad blood between us.
Uniforms:
More choices here would be very much appreciated, I'd like to see at least the captain having every racial uniform unlocked, even if their is a disclaimer that clipping errors may occur.
Bundles:
I think a universal level pack for each rank would be nice, note I said Universal, a welcome to the next rank box, would be good for both factions. Just make it so Disruptors come out for KDF and Phasers for Fed, like the current console lockbox rewards. I'd also love to see a KDF bundle, some Uniforms, a few special DOFFs, a Console and a Shuttle.
Population:
All the things mentioned above would make the KDF more attractive to play and thus increase our members.
PVP:
Graphics:
I have no idea what your talking about here? I wouldn't say KDF anything looks worse than the Fed side. Design is more an individual taste. I'd go as far to say that KDF ships look better and our KHG ground set looks far more impressive than the Fed MACO. I've also heard our Starbases look better unless you have a thing for giant space pens. And yes I meant the word PEN. If you added an "i" there that's on you.
Travel:
Hmm it would be nice to expand Klingon Space another Sector Block. It would also be a great place to base a ton more missions.
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When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
I've always thought that the KDF should start with a mission where you are a bekk whose first officer wishes to depose the current captain for cowardice in not facing up to a damaged Undine ship he believes to be a trap. Onboard struggle against "loyal to captain" Klingons with needing to overcome security measures, sedating officers and repairing turbolifts to reach the bridge in time to witness the first officer and captain in mortal combat before killing each other... leaving you in charge of a much diminished crew (here's where you get your first BOFF). You must beam to the Undine ship to assess damage (kill a few 'shifters) and beam back to take on the Undine ship which comes in to catch you unawares. Blew them both to hell and hightail back to Q'onos where the chancellor gives you command of the ship permanently. NOW do the Q'onos city missions.
This would begin to address the issues of Feds getting a nice gentle tutorial in both ship and ground handling/combat.
Ships:
"Those who do not learn from history are bound to repeat its mistakes". How did the Klingons get cloaks to begin with? How did the Romulans get better ships? Exactly! The Romulans are in such a state why would they not offer some tech to the Klingons in return for what they need (which leads to the future Romulan faction beginning with low level Klingon vessels with improved cloaks and a nice paint-job, but I digress). Klingons could get romulan cloaks from, say, TNG era which would be better than the ones they have, perhaps...
As to why we don't have more Orion/Gorn/Nausicaan oriented ships to fill lower levels I do not know. Just use the ones we've seen in episodes if you can't design any more easily.
Races:
CHALNOTH!!!! Ugly like a Nausicaan's drunken disco nightmare but big and hard. I want one!
Uniforms:
I want a long coat!
Bundles:
Was just looking at that today... I want to buy from the store for my Klingon/Alien and I have a spare character slot just begging to go Kling but I just don't see anything worth buying which would make it worthwhile. Give me a "slaver" pack with an Orion fighter, DOFF or two to help with "marauding", a Mekleth, Kahless fur coat for going to TRIBBLE discos (who am I kidding, I'd wear it everyday!) and I'm a paying customer.
Population:
I see a lot of new players on both sides almost every day... is this magic number accurate anymore? It may seem daft but add a tutorial like the one I suggest above, scale the Fekliri missions to rank and let people start at lvl 1 Klingon right now. See what the numbers tell you after a month of everyone being able to choose from the beginning whether to start FED or KDF. If the numbers suggest greater interest in KDF than previously thought then get cracking with more content!
PvP&E:
I do both as a fed and klingon but I have noticed how hard it is to get a pvp queue up to numbers, and sometimes the same for pve. I can't think how to help with this right now but I ALWAYS have fun when I get in (even if my BoP gets ***** every time I respawn by the happy campers or my ODDY gets its shields tickled by the same campers :P)
Graphics:
Nah, red all the way.
Travel:
Agreed, it's tough to go to base in Alpha Centauri for example. Starbases may change this a lot but it may not (I am fleetless atm because I refuse all blind invites... I will join if I;ve chatted/killed things with you and had a laugh but not because you need a resource mule)
All in all, I love my Klingon (okay, Drow) but I want more than meeting Scotty and McCoy because of lazy script writing...
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This. We are in dire need of some more clothing options.
Roach, I remember that KDF bundle that was proposed. That would be a great start. As I recall, DStahl liked the idea.
I'm not a fan of trying to unite the Klingons and the Romulans. Klingons have long, long memories and they will not have forgotten or forgiven the Khitomer Massacre. Even in STO we see Romulan agents involved in a plot to destabilize a Great House.
I say, nay-nay.
The Tholians come from somewhere near Klingon space, right? Right there would be a perfect opportunity for expanding the sectors around Omega Leonis, except for the fact that it's already bordered on every side by exploration clusters. Probably have to build it off of Eta Eridani's borders.
Still, with a bit of reshuffling it could work.
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If they situated the new block as above (offset perpendicular), they could push the doors for D'kel and Eridon into the top end of the new block without disrupting things too badly and still have room to expand for future sector blocks.
Tholian space is probably more likely to be off Eta Eridani, but I still think there's room to expand some. I highly doubt they will try to build in more than one sector block in S7, so maybe later.
I'm also a fan of the idea that we should be able to travel through exploration clusters and leave from the non-contiguous borders into some other sector (once they've been built).
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Klingon Empire is made up of various Houses (clans literally) that constantly fight each other. We do not see this in the game in any way or form. A KDF player does not see nor can he join a certain House/faction within the KDF.
Klingon Empire ships were basically the bird of prey and the D-7 looking cruisers (long-neck cruisers). These came in a variety of setups but the external look was similar. The game does not have this... the birds of prey are all practically identical in performance (per tier) and the cruisers have no special attributes or role. Unlike Fed where cruisers are tac or engineering oriented..or science oriented.
Klingons have an overwhelming advantage in c-store ship consoles over federation...which is perhaps the ONLY advantage the klingon side has. The consoles give the klingon ships amazing abilities that are mostly based on science/engineering stuff.... which is completely wrong as canon had starfleet as the king of such abilities while klingons had the advantage in ship firepower.
...and that is the last point. Firepower. Klingon ships do NOT have any advantage in that area. Their ships are equivalent in weapon slots/tac console slots to starfleet vessels. Why a federation EXPLORATION cruiser has the same weapons, same tactical slots...same everything as a Klingon WAR cruiser is beyond comprehension. If anything, klingon ships should all have 1 tac slot and 1 weapon slot more than any federation ship of its class/tier and let starfleet have the fancy abilities.
Kahless brought those days to an end.
R.I.P
i know they said the sci ships were ugly etc...
but come on the kar'fi is a beutyfuls ship.
Sweet idea mate, I really like to see this included.
I'l sign petition for more KDF stuff, gears and missions.
as for ships the feds may have more ships and get newer ships more often but as a whole i think the klingon fleet is much stronger. the feds do not have a ship with all universal slots... the best dps ship is klingon, the best tanking ship is klingon, the best tank/dps hybrid cruiser is klingon... and yes klingons do not have masses of science ships and feds do. but in all of the trek movies and episodes of any series how many klingon scientists have you seen? not enough to crew one ship much less enough to warrant a whole class.
yes klingons should be allowed to start at lvl 1, but remember the point was to set the klingon faction as a more elite faction where players had to reach a certain rank to even be allowed to have one thus theoretically any klingon player would be better and more advanced than a fed player of the same rank.
as for low population the numbers do not lie and you can blame it on anything you want but honestly the majority of star trek fans dream of being kirk or picard not not worf or martok.
personally if this is what the klingons have become both my KDF toons are ashamed to be seen in klingon space. when did we stop being honorable warriors and turn in to a bunch of crying petaQ children. we do not cry and tremble because our enemies have superior numbers. we do not seek to negotiate out of weakness and convienence. we fight or die fighting or perhaps you would rather return home to Qo'noS and find a wet nurse to let you suckle.
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Missions: KDF needs more unique mission. Atleast 20 new missions for low level content (1 per level at levels 1-20). Would prefer to see atleast 30 new missions solely for Klingons, to fill out the low level gap, and to give some overlap in the higher levels.
Ships: KDF doesn't need a whole lot of new ships. But it could certainly do with some alternate BOff layouts, and additional species-specific ships. All of which for Dilithium ofcourse (and not C-Store ships)
Races: Agreed, not a big problem here. If Cryptic were to take a look at "Star Trek Star Charts", perhaps add some of the "alien-of-the-week" species who may reside within Klingon space.
Uniforms: More uniforms, more accessories and oh yeah... VISIBLE armors and kits.
Bundles: More bundles are appreciated
Population: Lack of content, and lack of more variety and "attention to detail", certainly doesn't make it appealing to most.
PvP&E: Kinda relates to population. Lack of players, makes it harder to do proper PVP matches. PVE is cross-faction these days.
Graphics: I personally like the Blue FED UI better than the Klingon Red. However, i'd rather see a more neutral gray theme to the UI, with some color added in parts, to denote which faction you are playing. Gray UI with a blue or red colored trim around the edges, as well as species or department colored ability icons, would go a long way to improve BOTH faction UIs.
Travel: Most (if not all) of Sector Space is unlocked for KDF. However you are correct, that KDF has fewer social planets, or activities, not to mention, fewer starbases. I'd imagine Klingons would be rather efficient, and build outposts on Asteroids throughout the empire, or in the very least, have additional "Ty'go'kor" type starbases.
KDF= combat ships with consoles that help with combat
FED= Defensive ships with a lot of running away consoles and debufs
And i agree with all that roach has stated now and in the past , keep up the good work roach
While I'm still relatively new to STO PvP, I don't think this is the case. Sure there are some feds that pop like they aren't even running shields, but that has more to do with the captain/setup than the ship itself. I can't really comment on the cruiser side, but I'd basically take any of the fed escorts over any of the KDF raptors.
As for the OP, I pretty much agree, so I sign the petition.
Also that starting mission idea for taking over the ship sounds awesome.
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FIX the dozens of bugs the KDF has
Costumes Packs
Weapons Packs
KDF Featured Episodes (i.e. KDF ONLY not the same story as the Federation but from a KDF pov)
MORE "Toon Creation options" meaning more hair styles, ridges facial hair etc..
Voice overs in Fleet Actions SHOULD SOUND Klingon not like the Federation....
just sayn' :cool:
Just about everyone knows this. But whatever, all of them are
/Signed
CO noob and STO veteran.
There's no comparison.
Being able to switch on the fly your BOFF layout is a huge advantage for any ship - particularly with Ltc or Commander slots.
No, it isn't.
The same pilot with the same skills will excel in many of the more aggressive, and generally better designed ships like the KDF Cruiser Hybrids.
Aside from Raptors, which have some pretty serious design issues, KDF vessels by and large are the ones with the most appeal for a min/maxer.
The current round of fleet ships was a massive win for the KDF in terms of design for Battle Cruisers vs. Fed Cruisers.
Ok, so then it's only jealousy when Feds want some of the unique things KDF have.
Got it.
I'm glad that now the Feds are also no longer getting short changed on ship class choice and that Carriers are being brought in balance to give players more options to enjoy. :rolleyes:
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