And on top of that, the inability for 8 months for a kdf to use a tricorder properly must be the hardest puzzle to fix (if you would have listened to the feedback it wouldn't have been a problem)
I want to raid romulan space since I am at war with them.
Too be honest we where promised to be equal with the Feds on the 45 day patch.
This is simply not true. There's no way that anyone here would have said that. I know I didn't, and I know that Zinc didn't. The 45 day patch helped by adding Klingon Star Clusters, and some fleet actions to give you more access to PvE. But making the KDF truly equal to the Federation faction in terms of PvE content isn't possible in 45 days, 90 days, 6 months, or even a year.
We spent two full years making the game that we released 7 months ago. It's going to take a long time to bring the KDF up to par with the Federation as it was at release. It's going to take longer to manage to make them equal.
Does this mean we're not up to the task? No. It simply means its going to take time.
Too be honest we where promised to be equal with the Feds on the 45 day patch.
If you would have listened to the feedback by EVERYONE that said over and over again to not have the Klingons at war with the Feds so that the Klingons could use the same pve content as te Feds 90% of this could have been solved. Pvp wouldn't need to be "too the death" but "practice". Looks and feels the sane but less calories.
No need to backtrack.
In the future "if" the Klingons could get enough support you could start the war.
I mean really? No gorn system? A war with romulans but can't get to there territory.
Stf's? No kdf interest in them.
"it is coming" is a long song.
My flying car has been in "it is coming" mode for generations
What is this 'we" you speak of? And what is this 'where'(were?)'? And i dont see this 'promise' of the 'equal' to the Feds on the 45 day patch you spoke of. You Glenn Beck?
There's no way that anyone here would have said that.
But some people aren't "here" anymore.
I know I didn't,
Back in February, when this game launched, weren't you sidetracked by the other cryptic game a tad?
Anyways, I'm not trying to argue or start anything. Thank you for the posts and the dialog. It is appreciated. Getting into a bit by bit nit pick won't make new ships come out any faster. (At least I don't think it will).
Do you still want to be equal with the Feds when that means that KDF members get patrol and explore missions that make no sense in the story line?
I believe a lot of players do indeed want this. And that's for the simple game mechanic of ... it offers more XP and levelling options.
Do you still want to be equal so you can have Kill 5 ships/Scan 5 Rocks/Scan 5 Plants?
They already have that. So the equality issue here is ... having a scanner to find those 5 borg devices or tribble colonies.
Do you still want to be equal so you can experience Federation Missions across multiple Federation Sectors from a Federation perspective?
The thing people are asking for here, is something that they've shown they can do. Kestrel has been able to make KDF slanted text for the 4 VA missions that came out in 2.0, as well as KDF slanted text for the weeklies. So when KDF players suggest they want to ... for instance ... do some stuff in Romulan space ... they don't want the fed mission exactly. They want the same mission/content, but with the Kestrel rewrite added in. Which is something that the devs have proven they can do, and do well.
I can tell you, the majority of the players in the KDF faction DO NOT want to be equal with the Federation in gameplay.
Mechanically they do. They want the incomplete bits filled in. That's been the basic complaint since day 1. It's why people even bring up the 45 day patch in the first place.
When a KDF player mentions the 45 day patch and mentions equality, they're talking about ... they want to be able to have enough "stuff" to level with. Because right now they don't have enough stuff to level with.
This is simply not true. There's no way that anyone here would have said that. I know I didn't, and I know that Zinc didn't. The 45 day patch helped by adding Klingon Star Clusters, and some fleet actions to give you more access to PvE. But making the KDF truly equal to the Federation faction in terms of PvE content isn't possible in 45 days, 90 days, 6 months, or even a year.
We spent two full years making the game that we released 7 months ago. It's going to take a long time to bring the KDF up to par with the Federation as it was at release. It's going to take longer to manage to make them equal.
Does this mean we're not up to the task? No. It simply means its going to take time.
Thanks,
Stormshade
This was what what mentioned.
In beta, during an interview, it was brought up and then mentioned on the forums a few days later.
A few weeks after release it was retracted.
I am not saying that cryptic isn't up to the task to make the content close; I am sure you are.
I am saying is the task really could have beenbeautiful if you would would have not completely separated the factions because of various reasons.
Backtracking and doing kdf content now killed any desire for other factions.
I believe a lot of players do indeed want this. And that's for the simple game mechanic of ... it offers more XP and levelling options.
They already have that. So the equality issue here is ... having a scanner to find those 5 borg devices or tribble colonies.
The thing people are asking for here, is something that they've shown they can do. Kestrel has been able to make KDF slanted text for the 4 VA missions that came out in 2.0, as well as KDF slanted text for the weeklies. So when KDF players suggest they want to ... for instance ... do some stuff in Romulan space ... they don't want the fed mission exactly. They want the same mission/content, but with the Kestrel rewrite added in. Which is something that the devs have proven they can do, and do well.
Mechanically they do. They want the incomplete bits filled in. That's been the basic complaint since day 1. It's why people even bring up the 45 day patch in the first place.
When a KDF player mentions the 45 day patch and mentions equality, they're talking about ... they want to be able to have enough "stuff" to level with. Because right now they don't have enough stuff to level with.
but all of that would be a step backward...
there is no reason why the KDF gameplay can be more compelling than the Fed gameplay. The devs have learned a lot since they were slammed with making 45 levels of content in an 18 month time period. They learned what works, what doesn't, what is boring and what is just a "grind".
KDF gameplay should be uniquely different and better than what is there for the Feds simply on the fact that it is POST the launch of the game.
By asking the for "the same content" for the KDF that the Feds currently have, we are losing out on a major opportunity to improve the overall STO experience.
You know the community has a choice:
1.) We can ask the devs to just feed us more of the same and get "the same" just to satisfy our need to grind to level 51. Blah
2.) We can push the devs to deliver on content and gameplay that is unique to the KDF and thereby make both the Fed and the KDF gameplay more compelling and STO more successful as whole.
Klingon Exploration Clusters where Klingons can't complete ground missions because they can't find the objectives due to non existant scanners.
The Borg Hub for Klingons AND Federation
The Undine Hub
Several Fleet actions like Breaking the Planet, where the water pumps are on a ridiculous long reset times, so half the players can't complete it
Several STFs for Klingons and Federation. Since lots of Klingon players gave up due to frustration, it is impossible to actually do a STF on Klingon side.
8 Klingon only episodes (Did you know that the vast majority of manpower for Season 2 went towards making these?) And here I am thinking the manpower went into the refit ships for Federation
New and improved costuming options For Klingons and Federation
Improved Orion costume Options
A PvP UI overhaul because the previous system just did not work
Weekly Episodes for Klingons AND Federation
New Daily Missions to go with the weekly episodes For Klingons AND Federation
The Kar'Fi Carrier which btw. hardly anyone dares to fly because it can't compete in PVP
We're working right now, on:
More Weekly Episodes, and more awesome rewards to go with them. For Klingons AND Federation
Several new ships (Gorn, Orion, Nausicaan, Vor'cha Refit, New Crytpic Design - Klingon Ship) From previous experiences this remains to be seen
Improved Gorn Costume Options (These looks really sweet BTW) Of course after we added even more costume option for the Federation
UGC Klingons and Federation
Wing Animations for various Klingon Vessels Instead of flipping my wings I'd rather have a choice of the ship I can fly at various levels.
Crafting for Klingons which is long overdue
Episode Replay For Klingons AND Federation
A redesign for the remote contact system to improve the way you get missions. For Klingons and Federation. Btw, what's wrong with the current system in the first place?
More Weekly Episodes, and more awesome rewards to go with them. For Klingons and Federation
Several new ships (Gorn, Orion, Nausicaan, Vor'cha Refit, New Crytpic Design - Klingon Ship) From experience I have to say, this remains to be seen.
Improved Gorn Costume Options (These looks really sweet BTW) But first there were all the Federation costume options that had to be added.
UGC For Klingons and Federation
Wing Animations for various Klingon Vessels which remains to be seen
Crafting for Klingons which remains to be seen
Episode Replay for Klingons and Federation
A redesign for the remote contact system to improve the way you get missions for Klingons and Federation
In the future we hope to make:
More new ships for the KDF but probably even more for the Federation
New PvP Maps For BOTH factions
A new "Territory Control" PvP game for BOTH factions
More Klingon Specific Episodes and of course even more Federation content
I wouldn't say that this list is small, and most of this can be found just by going back through the Engineering Reports.
However, again, I must stress that this all takes time. It takes time to make it, to test it, to improve upon it, and then test it some more. I know you all want, and need more content, but rushing any of this out will not make things better.
This is simply not true. There's no way that anyone here would have said that. I know I didn't, and I know that Zinc didn't. The 45 day patch helped by adding Klingon Star Clusters, and some fleet actions to give you more access to PvE. But making the KDF truly equal to the Federation faction in terms of PvE content isn't possible in 45 days, 90 days, 6 months, or even a year.
We spent two full years making the game that we released 7 months ago. It's going to take a long time to bring the KDF up to par with the Federation as it was at release. It's going to take longer to manage to make them equal.
Does this mean we're not up to the task? No. It simply means its going to take time.
Thanks,
Stormshade
This highlight..............
So, as a player who bought the game to play the Romulan faction only to be somewhat disappointed by the fact they hadn't even been made playable by release with no mention of it on the main website at the time of launch. (which i ain't debating at this time)
BUT, does this mean that the Romulan Faction is now going to have to sit idle for a year to be playable
OR
Does this mean that there is a way for the Race and ships to be made for play by Fed or KDF? Specifically, the fact that they are a split Empire and no solid form of Government to consolidate the masses allows for Romulan's to play as good guys [Federation] or Bad guys [Klingon's] as a mercenary / asylum condition??
I, as well as others, are really wondering when and how this epic & cannon race will be made to be.
The above part ... that's what I hope you (and others) keep pushing and highlighting. I know your current posts are trying to focus on asking for more time. And I understand that. And where that's coming from.
But I definitely think the KDF posters and players, as well as some of the federation diehards who keep ... ah ... poking? poking at this topic ... could do well to hear the above quote emphasized a bit more.
I know you've posted this a few times now. So I understand if what I'm saying may exasperate you. It's not meant to. It's really just trying to focus on the simple part of what you mean there.
Your devs CAN do this. You are up to the task. You know you are. You are saying you are.
Certain parts of this ongoing discussion throughout many different threads keep trying to harp on the dev team's inability to do work on the KDF due to number of players, number of resources, etc, etc, etc. They keep saying that the KDF players are the minority and thus aren't worth dev time.
That keeps igniting the flame war. It's a very touchy subject. And will get a lot of ire and angst and anger.
And when reading what you keep posting ... I keep seeing you say the exact opposite. You keep saying the devs DO want to develop KDF stuff. Do like the faction. Do want it to be healthy.
I'm probably explaining way too much. Sorry for that. I just think that the message keeps getting lost under tangential stuff.
Try to at least suggest to dstahl when he's coming up with the state of the game that the message to the KDF should really focus less on "give us more time" and more on "we're going to do this amazing stuff for the KDF!"
I understand that you're unhappy right now. However, all I can do, is continue to reassure you that we are working to improve the KDF faction side of the game.
What you guys really need is a Klingon consultant. Preferably someone who costumes or is in a Klingon band. Someone who really LIVES the Klingon culture. Have a person like that or several people show you the Klingon way and decorate the game with lots of fine details from Klingon culture.
The 45 Day patch was built up by unrealistic fan expectations. There weren't any promises of Bremen Messiahs and the like.
Eh...you mean Fremen...as in Dune?....
yea...I knew we would not be equal with 2.0...but at LEAST we could have gotten some useful ships, a crew in the messhall (nobody there...not even my butcher...), and some way to distinguish a LTG from BG...Oh yes, and possible, a veteran reward...but sadly, most of the KDF content wasn't even started until recently.....Yea, someone really dropped the ball there....I say not only do they need a Klingon consultant, but they need to have a calendar with deadlines (for themselves mostly) to keep what they are doing on track.....Yes, I said it....that's what I think anyway.
A redesign for the remote contact system to improve the way you get missions.
In the future we hope to make:
More new ships for the KDF
New PvP Maps
A new "Territory Control" PvP game
More Klingon Specific Episodes
I wouldn't say that this list is small, and most of this can be found just by going back through the Engineering Reports.
However, again, I must stress that this all takes time. It takes time to make it, to test it, to improve upon it, and then test it some more. I know you all want, and need more content, but rushing any of this out will not make things better.
Thanks,
Stormshade
This is good Stormshade. It would be even better if we had a sidebar on the main page of the website with an "In Development / In Testing" section with hyperlinks to the appropriate Engineering Reports in order to increase visibility. Then you and dStahl wouldn't have to keep cutting and pasting this list in order to remind people that progress is being made.
I, as well as others, are really wondering when and how this epic & cannon race will be made to be.
I can only imagine that it will take time as well. I feel your pains.Hopefully the Dev's will have a good, easy to build from backbone base in place to facilitate the romulans fast creation. Unfortunately time is the key it seems. and patience.
Still the thought of thier ships as playeble sounds so cool and hopefully none of our waits will be too long.
I can only imagine that it will take time as well. I feel your pains.Hopefully the Dev's will have a good, easy to build from backbone base in place to facilitate the romulans fast creation. Unfortunately time is the key it seems. and patience.
Still the thought of thier ships as playeble sounds so cool and hopefully none of our waits will be too long.
Personally I would rather play Romulan than either of the other factions. That being said, I am unwilling to support the development of a new faction until the KDF gets on its feet and is enjoyable enough to play that it actually draws a significant number of bored players back from the Fed side.
This was what what mentioned.
In beta, during an interview, it was brought up and then mentioned on the forums a few days later.
A few weeks after release it was retracted.
I am not saying that cryptic isn't up to the task to make the content close; I am sure you are.
I am saying is the task really could have beenbeautiful if you would would have not completely separated the factions because of various reasons.
Backtracking and doing kdf content now killed any desire for other factions.
They said they were adding Klingon PvE in the patch.
That didn't mean equal. In fact, while they never explained what it meant, I was on the forums saying, "It's a star cluster. That's all they can realistically add."
They said they were adding Klingon PvE in the patch.
That didn't mean equal. In fact, while they never explained what it meant, I was on the forums saying, "It's a star cluster. That's all they can realistically add."
yes but when they said they were adding pve we expected to be able to actually us it to lvl, star clusters are bodgy at best and really didnt need that much dev to add them to us as they are just fed cluster without the aid the planets in the and scan anomolies, some mobs swapped out as random spawners and thats it.
the fleet actions i can see on some did take some more work to transfer over but the fleet actions are a bit pointless as most people are crippled by the lack of things todo whislt leveling, only the one's dedicated and willing to grind stay on the kdf side due to this and thats a major reason for our lack of numbers. if they had added a minimum of 3 sectors and random planets to kdf so we could have patrols to help level, i dont say totally level as they should just be a help on our side and a few more episodes that alone will make it a viable option for people to play kdf who are otherwise put off due to the grind effect that demoralizes nearly everyone including the die hards.
i mean, they dont even realise that one of there major points on things being done to upgrade the KDF is episode replay is a runnin joke to the hardcore players i know. replay what ?
I wouldn't even mind if the Fleet Actions were completeable below max level. Tried several and beside the bugs there are not enough players to finish them anyway.
Klingon Exploration Clusters ->without a working scanner/tricorder for MONTHS now
The Borg Hub
The Undine Hub
Several Fleet actions -> everytime i go there they are empty, and i dont have a NPC telling me where they are? (maybe i'm just to low level?)
Several STFs same as Fed i guess, but only CMDR so no access
8 Klingon only episodes (Did you know that the vast majority of manpower for Season 2 went towards making these?) as CMDR i was able to play 4 of 8 by now. ...and btw. why did i get Mk IV rewards for CMDR missions? i should have gotten Mk VI !
New and improved costuming options
Improved Orion costume Options
A PvP UI overhaul ...i accept that this was work, but in the end i dont see much of a diffrence, i open the window the same way, i click on the SAME 2 queue's to join, wait and end up in the same map. And it hardly is KDF exclusive
Weekly Episodes ...granted finally something to do on my KDF char. ...but having played both missions on all my FEDs and my KDF char.
They are perfectly the same.
There is no benefit in doing them again with a Klingon.
I expected i get to play on the same Maps but get diffrent objectives and a diffrent STORY, or at least diffrent ways to solve the same problem. (FED goes in with diplomatic approach, Klingon goes in all guns blazing)... but it ended up to be perfectly the same 5/5 mission down to the conversations my BOff's have with me.
There are only tiny nuances diffrent in the text, mostly what the Breen say.
If you do not play it on both sides but only on one, you have missed nothing by not playing the other side.
Now why would i want to repeat the very same content with Romulans or Cardassians next year?
New Daily Missions to go with the weekly episodes
The Kar'Fi Carrier ...you forgot the K'Tanko cruiser... i think both ships are ugly as sin, but whatever ^^
We're working right now, on:
More Weekly Episodes, and more awesome rewards to go with them.
Several new ships (Gorn, Orion, Nausicaan, Vor'cha Refit, New Crytpic Design - Klingon Ship) ...they are all Tier 5 as i understand? We need Ships for ALL Tiers!
At CMDR Rank i have the choice betwee 4 Ship Skins, and that is including every Shiptype there is. ONE Bird of Prey, ONE Raptor, TWO Cruisers which can't even be customized because the complete ship is designated as "Hull". No necelles, no struts, no neck, just HULL...
Improved Gorn Costume Options (These looks really sweet BTW) My Gorn can't wait for it
UGC ...again nothing KDF exclusive.
Wing Animations for various Klingon Vessels ...love it, but Intrepid get's it too, so it's general tech again an not KDF exclusive.
Crafting for Klingons ...i just hope we do not have to collect anomalies for that. And more so i hope we get diffrent stuff then on our FED chars or i just can mail the items to my Klingon and dont need to bother with it ever.
Episode Replay ...general Game feature.
A redesign for the remote contact system to improve the way you get missions. ...general Game feature. and tbh. you only do that because you need to overhaul it for UGC Missions.
In the future we hope to make:
More new ships for the KDF ...hope? HOPE!?!?!... this is a no brainer, of course you will do more ships in a game that is 50% about Starships!
New PvP Maps ...UGC !
A new "Territory Control" PvP game ...don't you mean Open PVP Sector with Territory Control?
More Klingon Specific Episodes ...nice! ...and WHEN do we hope to make those?
Personally I would rather play Romulan than either of the other factions. That being said, I am unwilling to support the development of a new faction until the KDF gets on its feet and is enjoyable enough to play that it actually draws a significant number of bored players back from the Fed side.
They give us ships and a few more shinies (long coats, Targ pets that have triible functions or can attack) and I will happily support the creation and up-building of the Romulan faction. With UGC on the horizion we may well make our own missions,though I have little doubt that the Dev's could make better ones.
To be honest i love my ltg kling but i dont want a game that pulls to much of my time from my fed side, my main fed is decked in purple and my kling has what he needs to do good in pvp. The new pve kling missions where cool and so is the breen fed/kling weekly episodes and dalies wich dont require other klings or feds.But i play this game to fly iconic federation ships, kling ships are cool but who realy cares they are no really iconic klingon ships, really i do good in ground or space pvp with my kling so i dont need alot of story. but i can see where some might
They said they were adding Klingon PvE in the patch.
That didn't mean equal. In fact, while they never explained what it meant, I was on the forums saying, "It's a star cluster. That's all they can realistically add."
They said in so many words (and no, I am not going to search for it) "Not to worry, Klingon content will be coming on the 45 day patch". That could have mean many of things. I could have ment a star cluster mission. I could have ment equal to the feds. It could have ment 1000 times more content than the feds.
Most originally took it to mean "real" content. It was talked about on the forums and people said to the people complaining about the lack of KDF content "45 patch will give us content!". Did Cryptic disagree or clarify?
Now, if I say a joke on the forums I get slammed right away with a misdemenor by someone who takes message-boards too seriously.
People thinking that "KDF Content" meant "real content" didn't get a response.
Is that my fault for misunderstanding or cryptic s fault for not clarifying?
Because it wasn't like they missed it. They look at every post to make sure that everything it to their liking. False information being discussed but in cryptic s favor didn't seem faze them.
Another reason why we are ****ed as a faction.
"The mean old over-powered Klingons are kicking our TRIBBLE-s" say the Feds and Cryptic gives them something to balm thier egoes.
"we are still dying really fast" again say the Feds and more goodies are given to even the odds they cry about.
" we can't find the Klingons with thier cloaks it to OP" says the Fed with a knowing grin on his face as Cryptic doles out even more "balancing" changes to game play.
Frankly , I'm sick of trying to compete with the **** that we have to work with and I don't need emblems that badly to enter anymore matches outnumber 3 to 1 by a bunch of RSP-chaining, Fleet support summoning, DEM+PLASMA hull destroying Fed players who call me names if I cloak or run, but ***** when I kill them!
Oddly enough it makes me want to shoot them even more!
You have a Third or 16 fed player simpythesising with you, i mean really. And i do see what you mean getting called names for running and cloaking and players whineing about getting killed.I leave pvp teams that complain about that.some of us fed Players would lick it a little more if we had a challenge from you guy's useing special abilities.The reason I say this is I have stopped playing against Kling's in pvp because they can not detect nor find me when they are in any really powerful ships.And your carrier that can detect me is so under powered that I can kill it in se conds in good hands and a minute in an experts hand.
You have a Third or 16 fed player simpythesising with you, i mean really. And i do see what you mean getting called names for running and cloaking and players whineing about getting killed.I leave pvp teams that complain about that.some of us fed Players would lick it a little more if we had a challenge from you guy's useing special abilities.The reason I say this is I have stopped playing against Kling's in pvp because they can not detect nor find me when they are in any really powerful ships.And your carrier that can detect me is so under powered that I can kill it in se conds in good hands and a minute in an experts hand.
You have miss-understood the substance of this old rant. It was caustic sarcasm. It is about the complaints of fed players that the Klingons are overpowered in pvp yet the Klingons have less to work with as a faction. It gets old to hear complaints from the that has a great many more toys to play with when they lose.
You really should give pvp a try again if you are so well-adapted for it.
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I want to raid romulan space since I am at war with them.
Pve wise, yes.
This is simply not true. There's no way that anyone here would have said that. I know I didn't, and I know that Zinc didn't. The 45 day patch helped by adding Klingon Star Clusters, and some fleet actions to give you more access to PvE. But making the KDF truly equal to the Federation faction in terms of PvE content isn't possible in 45 days, 90 days, 6 months, or even a year.
We spent two full years making the game that we released 7 months ago. It's going to take a long time to bring the KDF up to par with the Federation as it was at release. It's going to take longer to manage to make them equal.
Does this mean we're not up to the task? No. It simply means its going to take time.
Thanks,
Stormshade
What is this 'we" you speak of? And what is this 'where'(were?)'? And i dont see this 'promise' of the 'equal' to the Feds on the 45 day patch you spoke of. You Glenn Beck?
But some people aren't "here" anymore.
Back in February, when this game launched, weren't you sidetracked by the other cryptic game a tad?
Anyways, I'm not trying to argue or start anything. Thank you for the posts and the dialog. It is appreciated. Getting into a bit by bit nit pick won't make new ships come out any faster. (At least I don't think it will).
Why do you want to be equal with the Feds?
Do you still want to be equal with the Feds when that means that KDF members get patrol and explore missions that make no sense in the story line?
Do you still want to be equal so you can have Kill 5 ships/Scan 5 Rocks/Scan 5 Plants?
Do you still want to be equal so you can experience Federation Missions across multiple Federation Sectors from a Federation perspective?
I can tell you, the majority of the players in the KDF faction DO NOT want to be equal with the Federation in gameplay.
They want their gameplay to be unique and different that repeats the flavor of what it means to be Klingon.
They want that gameplay to be unique enough so that it is COMPELLING to actually level a KDF officer, not so that its just "more of the same".
So please... no patches that make the KDF "equal" to the Feds. We need more diversity, not less diversity in game play.
lol, no we were not promised that.
I believe a lot of players do indeed want this. And that's for the simple game mechanic of ... it offers more XP and levelling options.
They already have that. So the equality issue here is ... having a scanner to find those 5 borg devices or tribble colonies.
The thing people are asking for here, is something that they've shown they can do. Kestrel has been able to make KDF slanted text for the 4 VA missions that came out in 2.0, as well as KDF slanted text for the weeklies. So when KDF players suggest they want to ... for instance ... do some stuff in Romulan space ... they don't want the fed mission exactly. They want the same mission/content, but with the Kestrel rewrite added in. Which is something that the devs have proven they can do, and do well.
Mechanically they do. They want the incomplete bits filled in. That's been the basic complaint since day 1. It's why people even bring up the 45 day patch in the first place.
When a KDF player mentions the 45 day patch and mentions equality, they're talking about ... they want to be able to have enough "stuff" to level with. Because right now they don't have enough stuff to level with.
In beta, during an interview, it was brought up and then mentioned on the forums a few days later.
A few weeks after release it was retracted.
I am not saying that cryptic isn't up to the task to make the content close; I am sure you are.
I am saying is the task really could have beenbeautiful if you would would have not completely separated the factions because of various reasons.
Backtracking and doing kdf content now killed any desire for other factions.
but all of that would be a step backward...
there is no reason why the KDF gameplay can be more compelling than the Fed gameplay. The devs have learned a lot since they were slammed with making 45 levels of content in an 18 month time period. They learned what works, what doesn't, what is boring and what is just a "grind".
KDF gameplay should be uniquely different and better than what is there for the Feds simply on the fact that it is POST the launch of the game.
By asking the for "the same content" for the KDF that the Feds currently have, we are losing out on a major opportunity to improve the overall STO experience.
You know the community has a choice:
1.) We can ask the devs to just feed us more of the same and get "the same" just to satisfy our need to grind to level 51. Blah
2.) We can push the devs to deliver on content and gameplay that is unique to the KDF and thereby make both the Fed and the KDF gameplay more compelling and STO more successful as whole.
Thats a completely valid opinion and your entitled to it. However, it is no MORE valid than that of someone who disagrees and wants those things.
This highlight..............
So, as a player who bought the game to play the Romulan faction only to be somewhat disappointed by the fact they hadn't even been made playable by release with no mention of it on the main website at the time of launch. (which i ain't debating at this time)
BUT, does this mean that the Romulan Faction is now going to have to sit idle for a year to be playable
OR
Does this mean that there is a way for the Race and ships to be made for play by Fed or KDF? Specifically, the fact that they are a split Empire and no solid form of Government to consolidate the masses allows for Romulan's to play as good guys [Federation] or Bad guys [Klingon's] as a mercenary / asylum condition??
I, as well as others, are really wondering when and how this epic & cannon race will be made to be.
Oh and one little thing more here ...
The above part ... that's what I hope you (and others) keep pushing and highlighting. I know your current posts are trying to focus on asking for more time. And I understand that. And where that's coming from.
But I definitely think the KDF posters and players, as well as some of the federation diehards who keep ... ah ... poking? poking at this topic ... could do well to hear the above quote emphasized a bit more.
I know you've posted this a few times now. So I understand if what I'm saying may exasperate you. It's not meant to. It's really just trying to focus on the simple part of what you mean there.
Your devs CAN do this. You are up to the task. You know you are. You are saying you are.
Certain parts of this ongoing discussion throughout many different threads keep trying to harp on the dev team's inability to do work on the KDF due to number of players, number of resources, etc, etc, etc. They keep saying that the KDF players are the minority and thus aren't worth dev time.
That keeps igniting the flame war. It's a very touchy subject. And will get a lot of ire and angst and anger.
And when reading what you keep posting ... I keep seeing you say the exact opposite. You keep saying the devs DO want to develop KDF stuff. Do like the faction. Do want it to be healthy.
I'm probably explaining way too much. Sorry for that. I just think that the message keeps getting lost under tangential stuff.
Try to at least suggest to dstahl when he's coming up with the state of the game that the message to the KDF should really focus less on "give us more time" and more on "we're going to do this amazing stuff for the KDF!"
And then ... do the amazing stuff for the KDF.
And viola. A lot more happy players.
What you guys really need is a Klingon consultant. Preferably someone who costumes or is in a Klingon band. Someone who really LIVES the Klingon culture. Have a person like that or several people show you the Klingon way and decorate the game with lots of fine details from Klingon culture.
Eh...you mean Fremen...as in Dune?....
yea...I knew we would not be equal with 2.0...but at LEAST we could have gotten some useful ships, a crew in the messhall (nobody there...not even my butcher...), and some way to distinguish a LTG from BG...Oh yes, and possible, a veteran reward...but sadly, most of the KDF content wasn't even started until recently.....Yea, someone really dropped the ball there....I say not only do they need a Klingon consultant, but they need to have a calendar with deadlines (for themselves mostly) to keep what they are doing on track.....Yes, I said it....that's what I think anyway.
This is good Stormshade. It would be even better if we had a sidebar on the main page of the website with an "In Development / In Testing" section with hyperlinks to the appropriate Engineering Reports in order to increase visibility. Then you and dStahl wouldn't have to keep cutting and pasting this list in order to remind people that progress is being made.
I can only imagine that it will take time as well. I feel your pains.Hopefully the Dev's will have a good, easy to build from backbone base in place to facilitate the romulans fast creation. Unfortunately time is the key it seems. and patience.
Still the thought of thier ships as playeble sounds so cool and hopefully none of our waits will be too long.
Personally I would rather play Romulan than either of the other factions. That being said, I am unwilling to support the development of a new faction until the KDF gets on its feet and is enjoyable enough to play that it actually draws a significant number of bored players back from the Fed side.
They said they were adding Klingon PvE in the patch.
That didn't mean equal. In fact, while they never explained what it meant, I was on the forums saying, "It's a star cluster. That's all they can realistically add."
yes but when they said they were adding pve we expected to be able to actually us it to lvl, star clusters are bodgy at best and really didnt need that much dev to add them to us as they are just fed cluster without the aid the planets in the and scan anomolies, some mobs swapped out as random spawners and thats it.
the fleet actions i can see on some did take some more work to transfer over but the fleet actions are a bit pointless as most people are crippled by the lack of things todo whislt leveling, only the one's dedicated and willing to grind stay on the kdf side due to this and thats a major reason for our lack of numbers. if they had added a minimum of 3 sectors and random planets to kdf so we could have patrols to help level, i dont say totally level as they should just be a help on our side and a few more episodes that alone will make it a viable option for people to play kdf who are otherwise put off due to the grind effect that demoralizes nearly everyone including the die hards.
i mean, they dont even realise that one of there major points on things being done to upgrade the KDF is episode replay is a runnin joke to the hardcore players i know. replay what ?
They give us ships and a few more shinies (long coats, Targ pets that have triible functions or can attack) and I will happily support the creation and up-building of the Romulan faction. With UGC on the horizion we may well make our own missions,though I have little doubt that the Dev's could make better ones.
They said in so many words (and no, I am not going to search for it) "Not to worry, Klingon content will be coming on the 45 day patch". That could have mean many of things. I could have ment a star cluster mission. I could have ment equal to the feds. It could have ment 1000 times more content than the feds.
Most originally took it to mean "real" content. It was talked about on the forums and people said to the people complaining about the lack of KDF content "45 patch will give us content!". Did Cryptic disagree or clarify?
Now, if I say a joke on the forums I get slammed right away with a misdemenor by someone who takes message-boards too seriously.
People thinking that "KDF Content" meant "real content" didn't get a response.
Is that my fault for misunderstanding or cryptic s fault for not clarifying?
Because it wasn't like they missed it. They look at every post to make sure that everything it to their liking. False information being discussed but in cryptic s favor didn't seem faze them.
You have a Third or 16 fed player simpythesising with you, i mean really. And i do see what you mean getting called names for running and cloaking and players whineing about getting killed.I leave pvp teams that complain about that.some of us fed Players would lick it a little more if we had a challenge from you guy's useing special abilities.The reason I say this is I have stopped playing against Kling's in pvp because they can not detect nor find me when they are in any really powerful ships.And your carrier that can detect me is so under powered that I can kill it in se conds in good hands and a minute in an experts hand.
You have miss-understood the substance of this old rant. It was caustic sarcasm. It is about the complaints of fed players that the Klingons are overpowered in pvp yet the Klingons have less to work with as a faction. It gets old to hear complaints from the that has a great many more toys to play with when they lose.
You really should give pvp a try again if you are so well-adapted for it.